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tintingz: They think it is a war against Islam?

So why are Christians supporting Israel? Because they are god chosen people in the bible?

Sorry the Israelis don't give shiit about Christianity.

Where Zionism has arrived today should come as no surprise - its premise flawed and its pursuit folly. A premise born of religious belief in being "God's Chosen" and the folly enforcing biblical claim to "The Promised Land". The absurdity of giving any of this non-sense credence is mind-numbing. Israel, backed by the West, is a leading example of "settler-colonialism" - immigrants overtaking a land already inhabited by others. It should come as no wonder why the Palestinians remain resistant.
Unfortunately some Nigerian christians are so brainwashed,that if the Zionists said Nigeria was promised to them they'd gladly welcome them and swear allegiance to be their slaves till eternity.

If you're wondering how a democracy can wage such disproportionate war against a people it's oppressed, you need look no further than the deputy speak of the Knesset, Moshe Feiglin, whose "solution" for Gaza is ....

He writes:

"Attack the entire ‘target bank’ throughout Gaza with the IDF’s maximum force (and not a tiny fraction of it) with all the conventional means at its disposal. All the military and infrastructural targets will be attacked with no consideration for ‘human shields’ or ‘environmental damage’."

"Any place from which Israel or Israel’s forces were attacked will be immediately attacked with full force and no consideration for ‘human shields’ or ‘environmental damage’."

He also wants Arab citizens stripped of some rights, wants Gaza settled by Israelis. He'd like the West Bank and Gaza depopulated of Palestinians as much as possible.

In case you think he is a "fringe" figure, he came in second to Netanyahu in the Likud leadership elections.

Israel's democratic institutions are being captured by the settler movement which is responsible for the "price tag" hate attacks (none of which are ever investigated by Israeli forces), and the same people who beat up Palestinian farmers when they object to illegal "trailer settlements" on their land.

There's no way you can look at all this and deny that Israel is headed towards becoming an apartheid state, if it isn't already there.

......In its formative phase,under the direction of Herzl,the Zionist movement thus displayed two features that were to be fundamental and enduring importance in its subsequent history: the nonrecognition of a palestinian national entity, and the quest for an alliance with a great power external to the Middle East. Bypassing the Palestinians was the trend in Zionist policy from the First Zionist congress onward. The unstated assumption of Hertzl and his successors was that the Zionist movement would achieve its goal not through an understanding with the local Palestinians but through an alliance with the dominant great power of the day. The weakness of the Yishuv, the pre-Independence Jewish community in Palestine, and the growing hostility of the Palestinians combined to make the reliance on a great power central element in Zionist strategy. The dominant great power in the middle east changed several times in the course of the 20th century,first it was the Ottoman empire ,after World war I it was Great Britain,and after World war II it was the United states. But the Zionist fixation on enlisting the great powers in the struggle for statehood and in the consolidation of statehood remained constant.

SirShymex: To those overzealous religious nutters who love spouting nonsense about Jews being the rightful owner of the Arabian desert - can anyone please tell me what point in history the Ashkenazi Jews(Germanic ethnicity) and Kazan(Slavic ethnicity) settled in today's Israel before 1948?

Today, both groups make up about 80-90% of Jews, however, in the 19th century, they weren't even up to 3% of the Jewish population in the 11th century. So, what made these new European converts, who converted to the Hebrew faith, due to the Roman empire, the rightful owners of the land?

And even if we're to go by the Bible - Central Europe and Russia aren't referenced in any part of the Bible. So where's this lousy claims coming from?

Modern Jews are not the ancient Hebrews, and even if they were, the Hebrews never - EVER - lived in Canaan alone.
But those bible thumpers always live in denial.

SirShymex: Yes, and he's a Jews as well. One of the few decent Jews out there who speaks the truth. Most of them have moved out of Israel for the Zionists.

Also, from what that thing up there posted, you should be able to discern what would've happened to East Africa, if the Brits had allowed them settle there, rather than where they're today. It would've been worse than Apartheid South Africa due to their innate hatred for black people. Honestly, I believe they would've colonised the whole of Africa. Like who's going to stop them, with the non-existent military power on the continent?

Uganda was one of their options for a place to settle.

The father of political Zionism and the visionary of the Jewish state Theodor Hertzl,a Hungarian-born Jew who worked as a journalist and playwright in Vienna,the capital of the Austro-Hungarian Empire.Herzl was an assimilated Jew with no particular interest in Judaism or Jewish affairs.It was the Dreyfus affair in the early 1890's, which he covered as the Paris correspondent of a Vienna daily newspaper, that aroused his interest in the Jewish problem.
He concluded that assimilation and emanicipation could not work,because the Jews were a nation.Their problem was not economic or social or religious but national.It followed rationally from these premises that the only solution was for the Jews to leave the diaspora and acquire a territory over which they would exercise sovereignty and establish a state of their own.

Missy89: Ah a Chomsky fan
Do you agree with his Libertarian Socialist ideology? The old man usually make some valuable points.

You bet I do
You know they scream Anarchist at us when we make our ideology known,like I give a damn

rastamouse: My friend this Palestinian propaganda will not confuse anyone. Hamas is a terrorist group that's all. Their main aim since inception is to kill as many Jews a possible, whether soldiers or civilians. Those guys are bloodthirsty vampires and Israel needs all the iron-fist to keep them at arms-length.

What triggered the latest war was the needless slaughter of the three Israeli teenagers by Hamas. Are they not humans? I will not blame you because this part of the world, we don't appreciate the lives of the citizens. Hamas killed just three teens-2 American Jews and 1 Israeli- and the entire army of the Jews are in the Gaza strip damning the consequences.

Israel has sworn to only leave when all the tunnels Hamas use to smuggle weapons are destroyed....I totally agree.

The civilian death toll is unfortunate but that is what you get when heartless group like Hamas decides to use children and women as shield against Israeli targets. They stockpile weapons in densely populated areas and the world seems to find nothing wrong with it. Israel is a sovereign nation since 1948 and they have the right, like any other nation, to defend their territory with or without the Palestinian propaganda.

GOD bless the Jews...the true descendants of Abraham...GOD bless him

Delusions unlimited
Cursed be the Gentiles...or are you a descendant of Abraham also talkless a jew?
Pathetic and moronic African that has been mentally subjugated by zionists who happen to hate your guts.

I encourage all to look at serious scholarship and academic discussion about this conflict. I'll leave you all with a statement of respected linguist and MIT professor Noam Chomsky concerning the previous conflict in 2012. Unfortunately, much of what he said in then still applies today:

“The incursion and bombardment of Gaza is not about destroying Hamas. It is not about stopping rocket fire into Israel, it is not about achieving peace.

The Israeli decision to rain death and destruction on Gaza, to use lethal weapons of the modern battlefield on a largely defenseless civilian population, is the final phase in a decades-long campaign to ethnically-cleanse Palestinians.

Israel uses sophisticated attack jets and naval vessels to bomb densely-crowded refugee camps, schools, apartment blocks, mosques, and slums to attack a population that has no air force, no air defense, no navy, no heavy weapons, no artillery units, no mechanized armor, no command in control, no army… and calls it a war. It is not a war, it is murder.

When Israelis in the occupied territories now claim that they have to defend themselves, they are defending themselves in the sense that any military occupier has to defend itself against the population they are crushing. You can’t defend yourself when you’re militarily occupying someone else’s land. That’s not defense. Call it what you like, it’s not defense.”

Missy89: The tactic of trying to deflect from the garbage you wrote earlier isn't working. The issue isn't the charter of Hamas because that is subjective and you just proved my point with this write up again. what do you mean by the land doesn't belong to them? who does it belong to and are you going to refer me to the bible as prove? or what other evidence do u have as regards the owner of the land?

Israel too was founded on the basis of creating a "Jewish state". doesn't that automatically mean that their objective is to wipe out the current occupiers as well? or do they have to write it down before you understand? or do u think the Arabs living inside Israel as citizens have the same rights are the Jews there?

This was the platform on which the Likud party contested elections in 1999 and it hasn't changed much till the present day.....

"The Jewish communities in Judea, Samaria and Gaza are the realization of Zionist values. Settlement of the land is a clear expression of the unassailable right of the Jewish people to the Land of Israel and constitutes an important asset in the defense of the vital interests of the State of Israel. The Likud will continue to strengthen and develop these communities and will prevent their uprooting."

"The Government of Israel flatly rejects the establishment of a Palestinian Arab state west of the Jordan river. The Palestinians can run their lives freely in the framework of self-rule, but not as an independent and sovereign state. Thus, for example, in matters of foreign affairs, security, immigration and ecology, their activity shall be limited in accordance with imperatives of Israel’s existence, security and national need."

Missy89: you should stick to your local tribal threads and leave this one for people having constructive arguments.

You usually forget this line when you talk about the Civil war in Nigeria if history serves me right. all is fair in war except the Nigerian civil war seh?

You know some Nigerians are deluded when they say "God bless Theodor Herzl" like seriously do they have a clue what zionism is all about?

Missy89: Ah now that is what i have been waiting for

By God the deluded and religiously brainwashed Nigerians actually mean USA-AIPAC>$3bn annually .
They are just so dumb so they don't actually know but they accept the israelites are the chosen ones and the dumb Nigerians have to be the rejected ones.

anago9010: true talk!!!! the battle of Oshogbo was use to push the fulas back up north, when they wanna expand their enclave. the Ibadan warriors just left the ilorin outpost unconquered to serve as lessons to future afonjas.

The battle of Oshogbo finally put a check on the fulanis jihad towards the sea as the fulani cavalry proved to be useless in the forest.Ibadan concentrated on opening up the trade routes towards the south which had been under the control of the Ijebus.
They left the ilorin people to their fate but recovered other towns around it like Igbomina.

barackodam: Gosh!!!!!


I hate that feeling, worst of All being called a northerner.

Well its for geo-political dynamics.
Sola Saraki built his dynasty in kwara as he couldn't find any openings in the southwest.
MKO Abiola somehow stood in his way,incidentally they are both from gbagura

tonytony208: let us not cover up our goof bro. We goofed big time. Our forefathers goofed big time. Alaafin and Afonja were too short sighted to see into the future. Afonja came back to himself, but Alaafin was too proud to see beyond his nose. If he had known a day like this would come, he would have helped Afonja to chase out the fulani and am certain Afonja would have accepted Alaafin as his lord afterwards. But ikúbàbáyèyé was only interested in flexing ego. I don't know if there is something yoruba land can do about this.

Well world history is shaped by people who goofed in one way or the other.You forget that Afonja rebelled against the empire in connivance with the Oyomesi and chief Onikoyi and eventually forced Alaafin Aole into commiting suicide.so there's no way he was going to accept any lord over him considering he was related to alaafin Aole,not to talk of the subsequent alaafins that were very weak.Infact there was an interregnum of about 20 years which further weakened the institution.
There was no alaafin that could come to his aid anyway he was supposed to be the field marshal of the Oyo army.In subesequent years the yorubas under the leadership of Ibadan were in a good position to wrestle ilorin back but selfish interests and intrigues always came into play.Eventually I believe the flourishing trade from the south coast(Lagos) was of more interest to them than ilorin which had lost its significance.

tonytony208: the former governor before saraki (muhammad something) enthroned a yoruba oba in ilorin during his tenure, but bukola saraki dethroned the yoruba oba when he (bukola) became governor. I guess bukola prefers the status quo of slavery to fulani.

I agree with you bro,I don't understand Bukola Saraki's gameplan,is he scared of the fulani hegemony?well I think like his father sola they prefer to stick with the north central instead of south west cos it gives them a sort of leverage.

The Saraki's are not actually indigenes of kwara or ilorin itself and one must wonder how they've successfully kept the issue under the lid,although a good number of people are aware but aren't making a fuss about it probably because the Saraki's are playing the Yoruba-Fulani balancing act pretty well

Modern Jews are not the ancient Hebrews, and even if they were, the Hebrews never - EVER - lived in Canaan alone.

Indeed, if we go by sovereignty, the Egyptians, most of all, have the best claim to all of it - ruling Canaan for centuries - including during the period of time in which the Exodus, which never really happened, was supposed to have taken place.

Where Zionism has arrived today should come as no surprise - its premise flawed and its pursuit folly. A premise born of religious belief in being "God's Chosen" and the folly enforcing biblical claim to "The Promised Land". The absurdity of giving any of this non-sense credence is mind-numbing. Israel, backed by the West, is a leading example of "settler-colonialism" - immigrants overtaking a land already inhabited by others. It should come as no wonder why the Palestinians remain resistant.

haitto99: Looking at ilorin as a city,majority of its population speak yourba,the street names are majorly yoruba,although am from ondo but working in ilorin,I can fully say it that the yoruba influence in the town is thrice that of the fulanis.....its just a case of what happened in south africa,a minority ruling the majority

Does the emir of Ilorin "Rule" ? Or does any traditional ruler in Nigeria today actually rule over the people?like many modern day monarchies they are all ceremonial tools and vestiges of a bygone era.Last time I checked they can be sacked by the governor of the state of which ilorin falls under Kwara.

KOBOJO: The way and manner the Fulanis conquered kwara state is what beats my imagination till date !!

Fulanis enthroned an Emir and a reigning oba was deposed and banished from his kingdom yet his *ubjects and people (yorubas) didn't even cough.

The situation isnt better in 2014 as same people are still political salves to fulanis !!

And who was the reigning oba that was deposed if I may ask?

shymexx: Bwahahaha

I was just alluding to how phaggots are powerful in that country. They run the show there.

However, I don't think Nigeria can survive America's economic sanctions. So if this threat is actually serious, Nigeria needs a good lobby group to neutralise those working for the LGBT groups.

Nigeria can and should survive American sanctions,under Abacha Nigeria was hit with all manner of sanctions and come to think of it the country was faring well.Americas contribution to Nigeria is overestimated,its not what it used to be since the chinese and indians came in.
Screw the LGBT community.

In the past week I’ve seen and heard the popular statement “let the I.D.F. win” more and more frequently. It’s been posted on social media, spray-painted on walls, and chanted in demonstrations. Lots of young people are quoting it on Facebook, and they seem to think it’s a phrase that arose in response to the current military operation in Gaza. But I’m old enough to remember how it evolved: first formulated as a bumper sticker, and later turning into a mantra. Of course, this slogan is not addressed to Hamas or to the international community—it’s intended for Israelis, and it contains within it the twisted world view that has been guiding Israel for the past twelve years. 


The first erroneous assumption it contains is that there are some people in Israel who are preventing the Army from winning. These supposed saboteurs could be me, my neighbor, or any other person who questions the premise and purpose of this war. All these weirdos, daring to ask questions or raise concerns regarding the conduct of our government, tying our military’s capable hands with nagging op-eds and defeatist calls for humanity and empathy, are allegedly the only thing separating the I.D.F. from a perfect victory.

The second, much more dangerous idea that this slogan contains is that the I.D.F. actually could win. “We’re prepared to receive all these missiles non-stop,” many southern-Israelis keep saying on the news, “as long as we can finish this, once and for all.”

Twelve years, five operations against Hamas (four of them in Gaza), and still we have this same convoluted slogan. Young men who were only first-graders during Operation Defensive Shield are now soldiers invading Gaza by land. In each of these operations there have been right-wing politicians and military commentators who pointed out that “this time we’ll have to pull all the stops, take it all the way, until the end.” Watching them on television, I can’t help but ask myself, What is this end they’re striving toward? Even if each and every Hamas fighter is taken out, does anyone truly believe that the Palestinian people’s aspiration for national independence will disappear with them? Before Hamas, we fought against the P.L.O., and after Hamas, assuming, hopefully, that we’re still around, we’ll probably find ourselves fighting against another Palestinian organization. The Israeli military can win the battles, but peace and quiet for the citizens of Israel will only be achieved through political compromise. But this, according to the patriotic powers running the current war, is something that we’re not supposed to say, because this kind of talk is precisely what’s stopping the I.D.F. from winning. Ultimately, when this operation is over and the tally is taken of the many dead bodies, on our side and theirs, the accusing finger will once again be pointed at us, the saboteurs.

In 2014, in Israel, the definition of legitimate discourse has changed entirely. Discussion is divided between those who are “pro-I.D.F.” and those who are against it. Right-wing thugs chanting “death to Arabs” and “death to leftists” on the streets of Jerusalem or Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman’s call to boycott Arab-Israeli businesses protesting the operation in Gaza are considered patriotic, while demands to stop the operation or mere expressions of empathy about the deaths of women and children in Gaza are perceived as a betrayal against flag and country. We are faced with the false, anti-democratic equation that argues that aggression, racism, and lack of empathy mean love of the homeland, while any other opinion—especially one that does not encourage the use of power and the loss of soldiers’ lives—is nothing less than an attempt to destroy Israel as we know it.

At times it seems that there are two wars going on. On one front, the military is battling against Hamas. On the other, a government minister, who called Arab colleagues “terrorists” on the floor of the Knesset, and hooligans who intimidate peace activists on social media, jointly  persecute “the enemy within”: anyone who speaks differently. There is no doubt that Hamas is posing a threat to our safety and to our children’s safety, but can the same thing be said about entertainers such as the comedian Orna Banai, the singer Achinoam Nini, or my wife, the film director Shira Geffen, all of whom were vilified in hateful and menacing ways when they publicly expressed dismay about the deaths of Palestinian children? Do the extreme attacks against them constitute another defense necessary for our survival, or are they merely a dark outburst of hate and rage? Are we really so weak and scared that any opinion that differs from the consensus must be muted, lest it provoke death threats against not only those voicing it, but their children as well?  

Many people tried to convince me not to publish this piece. “You have a little boy,” one of my friends told me last night. “Sometimes it’s better to be smart than to be right.” I’ve never been right, and I must not be too smart, either, but I am willing to fight for my right to express my opinion with the same ferocity that the I.D.F. is now showing in Gaza. This war is not about my own personal opinion, which may be wrong or pathetic. It’s for this place where I live, and which I love. 

On August 10, 2006, near the end of the Second Lebanon War, the writers Amos Oz, A. B. Yehoshua, and David Grossman held a press conference in which they urged the government to reach an immediate ceasefire. I was in a taxi and heard the report on the radio. The driver said, “What do those pieces of shit want, huh? They don’t like the Hezbollah suffering? These assholes want nothing more than to hate our country.” Five days later, David Grossman buried his son in the military plot at the Mount Herzl cemetery. Apparently that “piece of shit” wanted a few other things than to hate this country. Most importantly, he wanted his son, like so many other young men who were killed in those last, superfluous days of fighting, to come home alive.

It’s an awful thing to make a truly tragic mistake, one that costs many lives.  It’s worse to make that same mistake over and over again. Four operations in Gaza, an immense number of Israeli and Palestinian hearts that have stopped beating, and we keep ending up in the same place. The only thing that actually changes is Israeli society’s tolerance for criticism. It’s become clear during this operation that the right wing has lost its patience in all matters regarding that elusive term, “freedom of speech.” In the past two weeks, we’ve seen right wingers beating left wingers with clubs, Facebook messages promising to send left-wing activists to the gas chambers, and denunciations of anyone whose opinion delays the military on its way to victory. It turns out that this bloody road we walk from operation to operation is not as cyclical as we may have once thought. This road is not a circle, it’s a downward spiral, leading to new lows, which, I’m sad to say, we’ll be unlucky enough to experience.

Culled from the Newyorker

Missy89: Akoko South East is a LG on ondo state. Akoko edo is different but close.

from Akoko SE

Isn't Sade's dad professor Adu from Ondo?

Missy89: ABC APC ANC NAZI or whatever they call themselves wont win Ondo state! they probably wont even win in Oyo in 2015.
Integration under Tinubu is dead when he formed a bigger coalition before getting very comfortable in his region.
The goatee governor in Osun might win few weeks but that doesn't change anything.

I mentioned the problem with ondo state earlier. the development of the state depends of the attitude of its indigene in the diaspora (other states in Nigeria and majorly abroad). Might change soon!
Let the "big boys" develop their states first

labour party will eventually be swallowed up by either the apc or pdp,mimiko is forming his alliance wisely right now he's in bed with pdp but i remember when he was fighting for his mandate at the tribunal he was frolicking with tinubu and his goons,and they funded his legal bills.
i guess somewhere along the line he refused to be subjugated by tinubu (can't blame him)
oyo has never given a governor 2 terms but i believe ajimobi will be a first.
the goatee fella will win no doubt but i remember when he won at the court of appeal a certain mimiko was beside him grinning from ear to ear

Missy89: something substantial?
Like i listed above, it terms of production and available resources to develop the whole region, Ondo state owns it all.
No equal partnership no deal
Besides, get your house in order first, then maybe they will talk.
finally, present a humble candidates that understand the place, not some twerp that thinks he can just win because of his party.

show them what you can offer. !

I'm not and will never root for APC but that's what SW folks are sticking with so there's no other choice PDP has failed after 15 years.
Can ondo even explore and develop the resources that can develop the whole region?
You need the big boys or a serious federal government.
APC(then ACN) goofed by foistering Akeredolu on the Ondo electorates no doubt,but regardless of their choice Mimiko was always gonna be hard to dislodge from akure.Iroko does suit him.
Sooner than later Ondo will fall in line when he exits.
All this folks that turn their noses at Lagos people one must ask what are those plaves without Lagos?their people from Lagos and Ibadan contribute to the GDP than any IGR.

texaco1: you don't know anything about nigeria politics

and what do you know?
Can't remember seeking your opinion

Missy89: Ondo will NOT! be a part of any coalition that makes them a junior partner.
How exactly are they behind?
Good luck with the regional agenda. Ondo will be just fine

Common assuming you join a firm now do you become a partner overnight?
Lagos is the president of the firm
Oyo and Ogun are senior partners
Osun is a junior partner as it stands now.
Ekiti is inconsequential (office manager)
Ondo if it joins can aspire to be a jnr partner
They'll have to bring something substantial to the table to be taking seriously.

shymexx: Obviously. They're not looking at the bigger picture and how whoever controls the state electioneering infrastructure, will have more leverage over the outcome of the presidential election. Simple maths.

They're betraying Yoruba interests, and with a divided house, I doubt the Yoruba's will be able to present a single bloc to fight for their interests. Also, it's going to make the regional agenda more difficult.

I don't care about APC - but since that's the only platform they've got. They ought to ride with that.

I agree,Ekiti folks can't turn around and start screaming bad governance and GEJ out when they willingly got into bed with him with that common thug Fayose.They've lost the moral authority.
The regional agenda would have to move on without Ekiti and Ondo,anyway they are already behind as it stands most especially Ekiti.
Ondo is just full of "natural resources" being hearing that stuff since forever and I don't know how far its brought them.
What if PDP loses at the federal level next year? I hope they face a backlash

Nihilist: Why not?

You are the one who came out and made very strong assertions that 'Israel was founded by military conquest and terrorism. It is being sustained by military domination and terrorism.'

Why would you make such an assertion and then refuse to discuss the 'demographic makeup of the city back then'?

After all, it IS a matter of historical fact that the Arabs actually took control of the region by military conquest and terrorism. It was then sustained for over 1000 years by military domination and terrorism. Is that not so?

Unless you are unconsciously admitting that you are just another unoriginal pseudo-intellectual regurgitating a narrative you heard somewhere in an attempt to feel funky...

Don't be ridiculous are we talking of Jerusalem or the Israel that was dubiously created by Zionists? Last time I checked it wasn't restricted to Jerusalem alone.Arabs owned 85% of the land as at 1945 and they have been losing more territory ever since.Your comparisons with Jerusalem from ancient,antiquity,middle ages down to the modern era as it changed hands severally bear no comparisons with 1947 whatsoever when a 'jewish state' was created.

Don't fool us with your moniker and say you have no religious affiliations because all through this thread you've sounded like one who follows that God's chosen people mantra and the dumbest narrative known to mankind about the land given to them in the bible.

buJu234: Islamic militants were una dey na.. una dey hide abi fear

where are the ISIS; Boko Haram; Seleka etc that are busy terrorizing innocent countries that preach love & peace.

If they really have liver let them go and join Hamas in GAZA to fight the Israelis..

And I will 1000% a sure u that the boys of Moses (the Law giver); who told his boys (Israelis) that IF ANYONE SLAP U IN ONE SIDE OF YOUR FACE; YOU SHOULD GIVE ME DOUBLE ON BOTH SIDE OF THEIR FACES will jst end their Jihadist career.

Other religions are too soft... from Christianity to Hindus etc I trust the JEWS ( TAKE NO NONE SENSE FROM ANY MOTHERFVCKER)

Seems you've forgotten a certain Austrian corporal

Nihilist: I asked you a very simple question. How did the Arabs take control of the area in the first place?

I did not offer any opinions whatsoever

Now are you going to answer the question?

Well i read your contributions on the thread and I see which side of the divide you lean towards.

To answer your historical question the Ummayad Caliphate conquered Jerusalem from the Byzantine Empire during the period you mentioned and I'm not even discussing the demographic makeup of the city then.

Nihilist: Mr Funky,

Can you explain to the house how the previous rulers of that region came into power before the annexation by the British in 1920?

How did the Arabs come to rule Jerusalem as far back as 635 AD

I'll give you a clue....it starts with Military Conquest

Good,you have a formed opinion already concerning the discussion at hand why don't you keep it to yourself