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Teewhy2:
every day new things to be worry about, make GOD help us.
is it only in Nigeria or am just the only one who think in this environment, you worry about armed robbers, kidnappers, ritualist, badoo group, fulani herdsmen, boko haram, fake pastors, fake imam, church members, neighbors , AIDS, LASSA fever, Ebola, No Electricity, Bad roads, Bad governance e.t.c. now they come add this one way the name sef go make you bite your tougue.
E yin oyinbo e wa fu mi ni visa, ilu we su mi, ko si ina, ko si security, ko si ona.
{ Abeg you Oyinbo come and give me visa, no Electricity, No Security No road}

alBHAGDADI:
Your deceitfulness knows no bound.

You claim I quoted the Quran wrongly but you failed to even bring the original verse here. Now, you've gone further to try to explain the verse, albeit you purpose lied against the Quran just to cover up the deception in Islam.


You claim the verse which commands Muslims to strike off the necks of unbelievers was actually Allah saying that that is what he will do.

I say no, cos the verse was Allah telling angels to tell Muslims that he will strike terror into the hearts of unbelievers and that Muslims should strike off the necks of such people. No part in that verse says Allah will do that himself.


Yusuf Ali : Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instil terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them."

Shakir : When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.

Muhammad Sarwar : Your Lord inspired the angels saying, "I am with you. Encourage the believers. I shall cast terror into the hearts of the unbelievers and you will strike their heads and limbs;

Mohsin Khan: (Remember) when your Lord inspired the angels, "Verily, I am with you, so keep firm those who have believed. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who have disbelieved, so strike them over the necks, and smite over all their fingers and toes."

Arberry : When thy Lord was revealing to the angels, 'I am with you; so confirm the believers. I shall cast into the unbelievers' hearts terror; so smite above the necks, and smite every finger of them!'

alBHAGDADI:
Sorry dude, you didn't address the OP. You only quoted more verses that buttress the point of the OP.

Hibrahym:
Is the author claiming to be an Islaamic Scholar now?!

A quick search of the word "terror" in Bible shows how peaceful it can be!
New Testament?! By who?

I can't claim Christianity is false just because Adolf Hitler was Christian (or @ least baptized as such). It will be lame, insult to intel and normal thinking!
I'll proof it in another way!



"Muhammad said to butcher your enemies."
- Of course the USA Govt. led bombing in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya and other places is as a result of this.
- Israel Govt. is also following this golden rule on Palestinians (I'm NOT in support of the {Hammas} terrorists causing provocation).
- The Indian Govt. siege on Kashmir is following this advice.

The author never referenced his statement (where it was said by 'Muhammed') and u just copied it: "just like that"!

OLAADEGBU:
See below how the above is One God.

OLAADEGBU:
Can you explain the enmity between the Sunnis and the Shias?

alBHAGDADI:
You Muslims love to use the fact that Islamic terrorists kill Muslims too and even invade mosques.

You guys most times do that out of ignorance or deceitfully.

Well, to understand why Islamic terrorists kill Muslims too, pls read the thread below cos it explained it even using Quranic verses.


https://www.nairaland.com/3707284/christians-muslims-why-isis-kills

alBHAGDADI:
The narrative we hear from muslims today is that ISIS and other terrorists groups aren't muslims simply because they kill muslims as well. What these confused muslims of that opinion don't know is that ISIS and other terror squads are the true muslims while these other people who profess islam are just wannabee. Pls, be patient enough to read on.

Mohammad was asked to tell on what condition it is required to kill a muslim, his answer goes thus...

Hadith no: 2534
Narrated / Authority of: Abdullah
(who is Ibn Masud) that the Messenger of Allah (saw) said: "It is not lawful to shed the blood of a Muslim who bears witness that none has the right to be worshiped but Allah (SWT), and that I am the Messenger of Allah (saw), except in one of three cases: a soul for a soul; a married person who commits adultery, and one who leaves his religion and splits from the Jamaah." Sahih

In summary of the above Hadith, one can only shed the blood of a muslim if...

1) If the muslim killed a muslim unjustly
2) If the person commits adultery
3) If the person leaves Islam


Did you take note of the 3rd point? It says one can only shed the blood of a muslim if he or she leaves Islam.

Now, if ISIS and other terror groups like Boko Haram are going about killing muslims as much as they kill christians, then it must mean that the muslims they kill are not considered to be real muslims or are seen to have apostatize in one way or another. How does one Apostatize from islam? Be patient enough to discover an expose below, because leaving islam is not only about renouncing allah and mohammad, it is far deeper than that.

Non-muslims are considered to be unbelievers. This includes Christians, Atheists, Jews, Buddhist etc. Below is how the Quran permits Muslims to treat such unbelievers.

Quran (9:123) -"O you who believe! FIGHT those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you HARDNESS."


The Quran didn't stop there, it went further to tell muslims to be ruthless or harsh against the unbelievers.


Quran (48:29) - "Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves"


Pls, i beg you to be patient enough to read this one more verse amidst many other.


Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"


Now, when ISIS or Boko Haram steps into a town which they strongly believe is a muslim community, they get angered to find christians, jews, churches, pagan shrines etc all flourishing alongside muslims. That automatically tells them that those muslims have not been good muslims or they are pretenders to have allowed non-islamic presence in their community. They get angered the more when they see these non-believers owning houses and doing business when they ought to be living like subjugated beings and paying the Jizya, a fine paid to exist. This means that these Muslims have become friends with the christians to have allowed that. Look at what the Quran says about muslims who take christians and jews or unbelievers for friends.


Quran 5:51

O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.


Did you see that part where Allah said that muslims shouldn't take christians and jews for friends? Did you also see that part where Allah said that any muslim who takes them for friends is one of them? Since christians and Jews are considered to be unbelievers, then it means that those muslims have become unbelievers for taking people who are considered unbelievers as friends. They are not seen as muslims any longer. This act of theirs angers Allah who said he will cast terror into the hate of such unbelievers and requires true muslims to kill them.

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"


This is the reason why ISIS and Boko Haram kill muslims cos they failed to keep Allah's word which tells them not to keep friends with non-believers cos it will make them to become unbelievers liable to be killed by faithful muslims.


So, whenever a muslim wants to deceive that ISIS et al are not Islamic cos they kill muslims, just copy the content of this topic and send it to him.

SaiNigeria:
Something like this right?......afonja

Igbos have grown beyond that level

obaival:
But i think we hav been helping them bro, building houses in der towns bt they never did that on ours not even renting an apartment & u said they need us, mehnnn go back n think wella...

lagostokd:
OLAADEGBU already answered you.

Islam is a violent religion against non-muslims and also against itself. The sole aim/agenda of Islam is to kill, to steal, and to destroy.

My prayer for you is to know the truth and the truth to set you free

analice107:
When Satan challenged God that he would also sit on the Mount and be worshipped as God, were you looking forward to seeing demons worship satan? Spirits don't worship fellow Spirits, humans do. Satan has his own religion and its called Islam.

Muahammed is Allah. and he committed Self worship. Atheism and Islam are the same when push turns to shove.

analice107:
Guy, pls don't do this, you kill just kill yourself with your own gun.

The Government of Turkey is not run by Christians, so wen you said the government kept the Bible secret,
were you referring to the minority Christians there?

analice107:
Guy, pls don't do this, you kill just kill yourself with your own gun.

The Government of Turkey is not run by Christians, so wen you said the government kept the Bible secret,
were you referring to the minority Christians there?

analice107:
The Government of Islamic Turkey. The same Muslims who shout every day that the Bible predicts Mohammed, found a document which validates their claims yet hid it.

Muslims and lies.

analice107:
It says 1500 years old Bible, couldn't have been written even by the last Apostle who died at the wake of the 1sit Century.

I was actually looking forward to a good read, but what i saw there is disappointing as it says, ' The Bible where It is believed that Jesus predicted Mohammed'. That's not good enough.

Some Muslim wrote that. I was looking for something an archeologist or a Historian without bias. Pls do better than this. Am still waiting.

Jhaytee4all:
Which government is that?


Isn't that what we call 'selfish?'

LoL.

Jhaytee4all:
Maybe you could've just added a direct link instead of making us dissipate energy to search for the post.

Moreover, why would the prediction be in such a Bible and not other Bibles? I assume it to be fraud-ish.

Jhaytee4all:
Whoa! Is this it?

Looks archaic. Or the dead sea scroll?

KingGBsky:
Knowing Christ is more than just mere man knowledge.
We can never use our man wisdom to understand our creator.
He said man's wisdom is like Gods foolishness and God forbid for God can never be foolish.
You can give your life to Christ now, but you will still need the holy spirit to understand Him.
There is beauty in knowing Christ when you are being led by The Holy Spirit.
And you know The Holy Spirit is personified.
Why will one live on earth without knowing Christ or even having a relationship with The Holy Spirit.
Its not life at all if They don't exist invyour world.

analice107:
I have scrolled from start to finish, nothing like that there. pls can you post some excerpts here?

analice107:
i'm back. the link doesn't say anything about Turkey Bible. I need another link pls. You don't know how long i have been longing to see this Bible so i can't wait to read it.

plainbibletruth:

I am beginning to VERY STRONGLY believe that you being DECEPTIVE!

I hope you'll prove me wrong.

That link I gave you (if you bothered to get to it) was my response to you -Habyz- on the issue I'm also reacting to here. I didn't ask you to go through the entire thread.

If you choose to play PING PONG so be it. Otherwise please take time to CAREFULLY go through posts and then respond appropriately rather than rush to quickly reply to posts.

analice107:
Oops. I think you'd need to give me another link, that's all about lifestyle and Celebrities. Nothing about Bible.

So, pls another link.

analice107:
Okay. Thanks for the link. I will get back to you and when i do, i will have questions and pls be abreast to answer me.

plainbibletruth:
Go to:
https://www.nairaland.com/3928591/jesus-v-muhammed-muslim-response/4#59900094
and tell me what you think.

analice107:
Any link to it? You know, you seem to be working based on assumptions and speculations, yet Islam preaches this everyday in your Mosques and Muslims believe it as truth.

Isn't this misleading? Muslims claim the present Bible is fake and can not be trusted, but freely quote it in their arguments to validate their claims. They say the Bible is corrupt, but are ready to put a knife on the throat of any man who says Muhammed is not in the same corrupt Bible.

They can't point to even a fragment of the so called original Bible written by allah.

What is even going on? Do you see anything fishy here, because i smell lies.

analice107:
Any link to it? You know, you seem to be working based on assumptions and speculations, yet Islam preaches this everyday in your Mosques and Muslims believe it as truth.
What is it that Islam preaches here? Please explain.

Isn't this misleading? Muslims claim the present Bible is fake and can not be trusted, but freely quote it in their arguments to validate their claims. They say the Bible is corrupt, but are ready to put a knife on the throat of any man who says Muhammed is not in the same corrupt Bible.
The present Bible is quoted to show you the lies and deception in them. There are a lot of contradictions in the Bible, a lot of things are done by Christians with no proof.

They can't point to even a fragment of the so called original Bible written by allah.
Nobody ever said the Bible was written by Allah, stop showcasing the deception you teach one another in Christianity. We all know that even Jesus Christ you claim to worship was never around when the Bible was written, he never even used the word Christianity.
What is even going on? Do you see anything fishy here, because i smell lies.