kimbraa:
Of what use is the pension to a grieving family? Money doesn't equate life. Stiffer laws like death sentence should be made; that way, they'll know that once someone is killed unlawfully; their life will be traded for it. This will make them think twice before doing anything.

Death sentences hasn't always proved to be effective, as humans we are all prone to greed, most people would think of the money he or she will lose before anything else. Maybe the FG can include the death sentence to the dismissal and forfeiture of the pension.

kimbraa:
Of what use is the pension to a grieving family? Money doesn't equate life. Stiffer laws like death sentence should be made; that way, they'll know that once someone is killed unlawfully; their life will be traded for it. This will make them think twice before doing anything.

Death sentences hasn't always proved to be effective, as humans we are all prone to greed, most people would think of the money he or she will lose before anything else.

Essential:

Are u a Muslim? Please I will like to know more about Islam. Christianity is a big fraud. Since i saw those igbo people that converted to Islam. I now have interest in Islam. just like Macolm X, I want to become a Muslim.

Yeah I'm a Muslim.
I think you should read the holy Quran to know about Islam.

May God help us all.
I noticed that no-one has blamed Christianity for this bullshit, if the asshole were to be a Muslim...

Topic: DSS Tries To Arrest Pastor Isa Elbuba Over His Video On Buhari, Fulani Herdsmen
First paragraph: PoliticsNGR has just learnt that a Pentecostal pastor, Isa Elbuba has allegedly been arrested by the Department of State Security(DSS) for criticizing the activities of Fulani Herdsmen
They are saying different things

9jakohai:


It is good news...though better if we used the cashew to make industrial products that would generate TEN times more in revenue exported

You took the words out of my mouth. Kudos to the Government and group though.

lordnaruto:


no ure too stupid and barbaric to know what ure dragging, i posted something about Saudi arresting u if Kola is found on u, u came out with that anus u call mouth and said i lied without putting ur fish-brain into use to confirm if Saudi truly have a ban on it, ive given u proof Saudi said that ure now asking me for biochemical components. ur comprehension and conversation level is way beyond low, i dont blame u sha, its me thats dignifying u with responses since.

The Saudi Arabia authority has
slammed a death penalty for any
pilgrim who travels to the holy land
with kolanuts, hard drugs and other
contraband.
I hope that thing you call a brain is enough to make you realize that the KOLANUT wasn't banned because it is a "hard drug".
Some criminals during hajj pilgrimag
smuggle cocaine usually hidden in th
kolanuts while traveling to the holy
land.
With these proof from the link you provided yourself do you still call a hard drug?
If you are not satisfied I'll advice you check for the biochemical component of the KOLANUT.

lordnaruto:


its very obvious ure very dull. by now, a smart person would have googled my claim and come back with an enlightened mindset, but u, ure still wallowing in ur stupidity. Let me tell u what to do, that cheap android phone ure using, its for u to be smarter, google search 'saudi arabia's ban on bitter kola', and come back if my claim is right or wrong. ure gonna see more than enough links backing my initial post which u irrationally termed lie. here's one for you.
https://www.nairaland.com/3288307/import-kolanut-get-death-sentence
i'm done talking to a nitwit like you.

I only asked for the biochemical component of the bitter cola , are you too stupid to produce that.

sasalite:
Hitler: the basis for his deeds was not religious but a desire for cultural dominance. Unlike the many terrorist organizations that exists, whose teachings are rooted in Islam. Tell me one terrorist group that claims to be fighting for the spread of Christianity. Just One.
By the way, I have studied Islam by reading Islamic books and even the Quran, and I can tell you that ISLAM OFFERS NO PEACE FOR ANY KAFIR, because all kafir belong to the house of war. Don't think my opinion is base on what I see Muslims do, rather, it is from what I know Islam teaches.

Old and New Testament: The Bible was written over thousands of years by various people whom God used at different times to write what they were given. They were only instruments for communicating what the main author of the Bible is saying. The author of the Bible is the Holy Spirit of God, and he is eternal. "All scripture is God-breath" 2 Timothy 3:16.

America: On what basis is America hurting others? Political or religious? Tell yourself the truth my neighbor.

Islamic terrorist groups: On what basis is Boko Haram, Al-shabab, Al-Qaeda, Hamas, and many others like them terrorizing others? political or religious? On what basis does your Imams teach against relating with non-Muslims (eating their food, trusting them, etc)? On what basis are Muslims not living in peace with almost every other religion in the world and even with themselves? Religious or political?
Let's face it my friend; YOU GOT NO DEFENSE.

Before i write anything I want you to know that I am not trying to defend Islam I'm just trying to make you see reasons why you should stop referring to Muslims as "cursed descendants" or "terrorists". That being written let's go..
Hitler: the basis for his deeds was not religious but a desire for cultural dominance. Unlike the many terrorist organizations that exists, whose teachings are rooted in Islam. Tell me one terrorist group that claims to be fighting for the spread of Christianity. Just One.
Cultural dominance! Since when did Christianity or Judaism become a culture?
What did you think the Catholic Church was doing against the protestants? Now that I think of it Muslims helped the Jews to during World War 2, Muslims also helped during the crackdown against Jews by the church. Why are you not praising any Muslim for that?
By the way, I have studied Islam by reading Islamic books and even the Quran, and I can tell you that ISLAM OFFERS NO PEACE FOR ANY KAFIR, because all kafir belong to the house of war. Don't think my opinion is base on what I see Muslims do, rather, it is from what I know Islam teaches
This is interesting, please refer to me and indeed everyone who would read our posts at least one of those books you read about Islam offering no peace to kafirs because they belong to the house of war.
Old and New Testament: The Bible was written over thousands of years by various people whom God used at different times to write what they were given. They were only instruments for communicating what the main author of the Bible is saying. The author of the Bible is the Holy Spirit of God, and he is eternal. "All scripture is God-breath" 2 Timothy 3:16.]
Did God tell anyone to call anyone terrorists? Did he tell anyone to fight against Jews? Did he tell anyone to call the descendants of a person caused people?
America: On what basis is America hurting others? Political or religious? Tell yourself the truth my neighbor.
America is a largely Christian state and I only cited the country as an example. Whether they hurt people politicaly or religiousy is left for you to decide. I told you about Iraq and Syria right?
Islamic terrorist groups: On what basis is Boko Haram, Al-shabab, Al-Qaeda, Hamas, and many others like them terrorizing others? political or religious? On what basis does your Imams teach against relating with non-Muslims (eating their food, trusting them, etc)? On what basis are Muslims not living in peace with almost every other religion in the world and even with themselves? Religious or political?
Show to the whole world a piece of the Holy Quran that supports the actions of any of these groups. Show us all what the imams teach about relating with non-Muslims Leo show us how Muslims worldwide do not eve in peace with other religions are supported in the bible. These should be easy since you read Islamic books.

Lipscomb:
Excuse me I know what I'm saying this so call local produces by yebos are fake .

.
Stop generalizing.
Saying the products by ibos are fake because some produce fake products is like saying all Yorubas are ritualists, it is like saying, the Hausas and Fulanis are murderers, it is like calling the Muslims terrorists and the Christians hypocritical thieves. It's like saying Americans are all opportunistic racists, calling Africans poor, it is like saying the British are dirty and the Russians are cold hearted.
That's not fair is it?

Lipscomb:
Okay but how many years warranty? Because I doubt the quality of the vehicles.

If the quality of the vehicles were in doubt did you really think the army would buy them?
Before you start speculating if I am Ibo, hausa or Fulani I am not. Let's just be optimistic for once.

sasalite:


My dear, I can see that clearly YOU HAVE MUCH TO LEARN when it comes to spiritual matters. Hitler answering the name Christian doesn't make him one. A Christian imitates Jesus Christ, anything less is ANTICHRIST. You can now answer yourself on that.

And YES, I dare to call Ismael a counterfeit since the scripture itself liken him to a "wild donkey". He was conceived as an alternative to what God had intended and that makes him a COUNTERFEIT.

Concerning Ismael's descendants being a curse, I hold to my opinion because it remains correct by scripture. The opposite of blessing is curse, and the opposite of original is counterfeit. God is using Ismail to send a message saying "I DON'T NEED YOUR HELP TO FULFILL MY PROMISE".

Concerning scripture being old or new, I must point to you that GOD'S WORD IS ETERNAL and does not change. Even the New Testament spoke harshly of Ismael and what he represents.

As for people calling Muslims terrorist, well that is their opinion. You should be more concerned with WHY DO PEOPLE CALL MUSLIMS TERRORISTS? By the way, I can't remember mentioning America in my post, so stop making assumptions, after all, America is a secular state. If they terrorize you, then blame America as a nation.

AM YET TO SEE ANY REASONABLE DEFENSE FROM YOU MY NEIGHBOR.

Hitler answering the name Christian doesn't make him one.
If this is true then why are innocent Muslims called terrorists when another person hurts people? Hitler's case is a perfect example of how hypocritical you all are, till date I haven't seen, red or heard of any Muslim calling Christians terrorist because of what Hitler or any other Christian had done or is doing, but you all find a way to fit Muslims into the word 'terrorism' to make matters worse for yourselves whenever a Muslim does anything positive none of you think of fitting Islam or Muslims into that image.
God is using Ismail to send a message saying "I DON'T NEED YOUR HELP TO FULFILL MY PROMISE".
Wow! Did God tell you that?
I'm not saying God needs any help.
Concerning scripture being old or new, I must point to you that GOD'S WORD IS ETERNAL and does not change. Even the New Testament spoke harshly of Ismael and what he represents.
Tell me when the old and new testaments were written and we would see how eternal the bible really is.
As for people calling Muslims terrorist, well that is their opinion. You should be more concerned with WHY DO PEOPLE CALL MUSLIMS TERRORISTS? By the way, I can't remember mentioning America in my post, so stop making assumptions, after all, America is a secular state. If they terrorize you, then blame America as a nation.
Why do people call Muslims terrorists? I have addressed that already.
America is a country on its own, who doesn't know that? But it has a population who are mostly Christian and that is a reason I stated her as an example.
You should take that advice about blaming America and not Christianity for yourself because Christians blame Islam and not the Muslim for hurting others even with proof that Islam doesn't support violence.

Ikengawo:

don't put your mooslim mentality on me lol. We're in every region contributing. You're in government arresting industrialists, closing ports, killing youths, causing recessions, 95 and 5%ing. gtfo

How is it that your brain is bringing Islam into a discussion about national matters?

sasalite:
The hatred Muslims suffer from all over the world is also a fulfillment of scripture, but their own case is a bit different from the case of Christians. Muslims may not really like this truth, this is the explanation if you will care to read. Through Abraham, God made a covenant with the whole world. This covenant is all-encompassing. God promised a nation from Abraham through whom the earth will be blessed. This nation is both physical and spiritual at the same time. Israel has been, and will always remain a physical representation of the promise of God (hate them if you like, but that is the truth). As God gave the physical nation of Israel to Abraham because Abraham had faith, so does he give him the spiritual nation of Christians (people who accept the eternal covenant between God and Abraham, fulfilled in Jesus Christ the lamb). This spiritual nation will bless the whole earth as they carry the free gift of salvation across it, hence the great commission of Jesus Christ in Matthew 28. Too bad, that today, both the physical and spiritual descendants of Abraham have forgotten their heritage and purpose; living like the rest of the world do. But comfort his found in knowing that GOD KNOWS HIS OWN. Therefore, don't look at what "christians" do, but focus on what God said in his Word.
Now before Sarah could conceive, she convinced Abraham to take Hagar as a concubine in order to bear a son for Sarah. In other words, Abraham agreed to provide a counterfeit child and help God fulfill his own part of the covenant. Of course, Ismail was the result of their effort. But instead of Ismail being a channel of blessing for the whole world, he and his spiritual descendants became a curse upon the earth. If you take a good look at that spiritual nation, what you will see is a nation that cannot live with others in TRUE PEACE. This is in fulfillment of scripture:

Gen 16:11-12
The angel of the Lord also said to her:

"You are now with child
and you will have a son.
You shall name him Ishmael,
for the Lord has heard of your misery.
12 He will be a wild donkey of a man;
his hand will be against everyone
and everyone's hand against him,
and he will live in hostility
toward all his brothers."
NIV

Hence, Ismail's descendants feel hated by the world not because the world hates them, but because they hated the world first and the world is only being CAUTIOUS with them. Unfortunately, the Muslims mistake being cautious with hate.

Christians on the other hand suffer violence from others for different reasons:
FROM THE WORLD: Christians suffer because they are not of the world
FROM ISMAIL'S DESCENDANTS:Christians suffer their greatest pain from this set of people because of the rivalry between Isaac and Ismail. This will continue until world's end. Ismail will always try to prove himself a worthy son of Abraham, and will try to take everything from Isaac. You can see this from the brutal zeal of his descendants towards religious issues, their burning desire to subdue Isaac and their self-acclaimed special status. But God works with his WORD and not man's claims.

Abraham agreed to provide a counterfeit child and help God fulfill his own part of the covenant. Of course, Ismail was the result of their effort. But instead of Ismail being a channel of blessing for the whole world, he and his spiritual descendants became a curse upon the earth. If you take a good look at that spiritual nation, what you will see is a nation that cannot live with others in TRUE PEACE. This is in fulfillment of scripture:
You dare call a child "a counterfeit" as if that wasn't enough you call "him and his spiritual descendants" "a curse upon the earth" speaking of spiritual and physical descendants is Ismail not good enough to be termed 'physical'?
Hence, Ismail's descendants feel hated by the world not because the world hates them, but because they hated the world first and the world is only being CAUTIOUS with them. Unfortunately, the Muslims mistake being cautious with hate.
You call being 'CAUTIOUS' calling a innocent Muslim a terrorist.
Christians on the other hand suffer violence from others for different reasons:
FROM THE WORLD: Christians suffer because they are not of the world
FROM ISMAIL'S DESCENDANTS:Christians suffer their greatest pain from this set of people because of the rivalry between Isaac and Ismail
Suffering violence from the world, seriously? Hitler was a Christian and we both know what he did.
Suffering violence from Muslims. You think America is innocent right, SMH.
You even said that the hatred suffered by Muslims from the world is a fulfillment of the scripture. Which of them the new or old testament?
There's a thousand reasons to show you're a liar but these should be enough.

iyke926:


I still blame Islam/Muslims for being responsible for terrorism around the World.


"An average Muslim is a ticking time bomb". - Isaac Newton 1734

If 'Muslims' around the world are responsible for terrorism do you think you will be able to move freely? Show me a verse of the Holy Quran that supports violence or terrorism?
If Isaac Newton said whatever you claim he said does that mean it is true? Remember Professor Albert Einstein even agreed to have made a mistake and the man had a genius level IQ.
Finally America is a almost Christian community, do you think Iraq would be at war without them? Do you think Syria would be at war without Tony Blair?

newmanadrian:
Daddy Freez will love this.

Remember that daddy freeze is a Christian. How would he love the fact that a church was destroyed?

lordnaruto:


if u must antagonize a statement on a public forum, at least do so after subjecting ur dull brain to a reasonable research, instead of showcasing ur stupidity. go to saudi with bitter kola and come back to tell the story, mumu. thats how they'll be doing oversabi with a dull brain. let me assist u a lil, its hajj season, call any hajj agency in ur state and ask. it wont cost u much, and d benefit is u get to keep ur stupidity under wrap.

My 'dull brain' is 'sharp' enough to question your stupidity and instead of you to counter my point with a superior one(if there's any) you decided to insult. Well here's a question for your larvae infested organ you call a brain, what is the biochemical component of a bitter to make it eligible to be termed a drug?

GraGra247:
The three posters above me, what is stupid about a woman going extra mile to take precautions if by any means it can help save her life.

She took 'precautions' dressing like a Muslim to 'protect' herself then went online to talk about it. Now tell isn't she stupid?
Are the killings even religiously motivated? But as a non-muslim she decided to make it seem so.

Ikengawo:


We (Ndigbo) will innovate will the sun stops rising. Nothing has stopped or blocked us. But make no mistake, Nigeria has tired. We know what we will be without this zoo you call Nigeria because all Nigeria has do to industrialists is deliberately use all of it's instruments to destroy it. We were refurbishing planes in the Biafra war, that's steps away from making and a few more from manufacturing.

Anyone that believes they're from the Nigg4r Area and has a country is a fool, and to come on here asking people why they haven't made airplanes when the man that made cars was thrown in jail is the height of ignorance. I feel like people who say this trash can only be based abroad.

We're in a zoo and the north can't survive if the south is successful. The ego of the west is bruised when the east succeeds. If you don't know why people aren't building airplanes, it isn't cause they haven't read this trash thread.

In your warped mind a zone can't succeed without the downfall of the other. Nigeria isn't a country.
Keep it up.

Ikengawo:


you're the one that's useless. You don't want to accept that you don't have a country. Let me say it again so that your insecurities and move over

The man that tried to build cars in Nigeria is being destroyed by the media, was taken to jail, his wife slapped, and has his good blocked at the port WEEKLY. If you didn't know research it. A report came out that Anambra has the highest percentage of jet plane owners the federal government's response was to start motioning towards banning person planes.

This isn't India and China stupid, there are people being ethnic cleansed in Benue, Yobe, Taraba, Gombe Borno, and Kaduna. Cleansed. By the thousands. You know this. Instead of addressing this disgusting human condition, you want someone else to build airplanes for you. And because we said no, we're useless, but you have a use because you can type about it?

You should be ashamed of yourself. You don't have a country. You have nothing on this earth and your denial will ensure you die that way if you don't start telling yourself the truth

You are pathetic, other nations that have built airplanes have there own problems, that didn't stop them from producing the planes, he is not even brushing the problems of the country aside rather he said that the problems are not an excuse not to be innovative. So what gives?

AFONJAPIG:
wizzy man overrated artist... how do diz people rate diz things self... are they rating it base on pass glory or what

SMH

AFONJAPIG:
wizzy man overrated artist... how do diz people rate diz things self... are they rating it base on pass glory or what

Smh

Evablizin:
Wow.

I love the smile i'm seeing on her face,she will be a great lady,the efforts of the people that contributed to this surgery wouldn't be in vain.

Amen

She deserves it. Karma is a bitch, you screw up once and you get screwed over 10 times worse. You should tell her though you don't want her to die of depression or do you?

You were caught for drug related offence so face the music, why are you calling on the authorities here in Nigeria?
I'm a Muslim and also a Yoruba and these people are an embarrassment to the Yoruba race and Islam.

lordnaruto:
it should be noted that definition of hard drug in saudi isnt just cocaine and co, if u go there with alabukun or 'after five' and some other common pain relievers that we use here, you might face the drug charge, even common bitter kola, chai , let them catch you with it, ure gone. So, majority of the people here might just be unfortunately naive to have those with them. i pity those that are used to jedi jedi, agbara bitters , dadubule, doro bebo and co, una own no go get appeal.

bitter kola if you must lie at least use your brain.

No-one is saying anything about the fact that these people were allegedly killed by herdsmen There isn't a clue that they weren't killed by someone or something else. Agreed a lot of these killings are by these herdsmen but a lot are also alleged to be herdsmen. Why are people so quick to agree that these people are all murderers?

smulti:
Nigerians in the Medina Prison awaiting execution are: Lolo Babatunde, Biola Lawal, Hafis Amosu, Jimoh Ishola, Tunde Ibrahim, Abdurimi Aweda, Adam Abubakar, Amode Tunde, Adewumi Adepoju, Saka Riyau, Aliu Muhammed, Abdul Raman, Yekini Yahaya and two other women. Many other Nigerians arrested for drug-related


Buhari the evil terrorist using his terrorist herdsmen to eliminate peasant farmers who are only struggling for their daily bread

People are about to die, you are laughing. Are you mad?

What is the point of releasing numbers when you said you wouldn't seek the FGs help? What's the point of calling the numbers when herdsmen are sighted? that's a sign of tribalism, not all these people are bad and not all the killings are confirmed to be committed by herdsmen. Mr Fayose is among the few governors I respect because he speaks the truth with concrete evidence but these is one of the times that the guy just dey fall person hand. Abi are the hunters going to start picking the calls of the citizens?

Farmerforlife:


There is no objectivity here. That some Fulani herdsmen killed some people does not make them all killers liable to 'self-defence'. If that were to be a defence in court, then I can claim the spate of kidnappings in the East as an indicator that all Igbos are kidnappers and drug dealers, and therefore it is acceptable to kill them from fear of being kidnapped. I can also claim that news reaching me of human sacrifice in Yoruba areas are an indicator of all Yorubas being cultists, therefore any Yoruba that comes near my house is a suspect. The law should not work that way. I admitted that the media has a lot of culpability in instilling this hostile mindset towards the Fulani that result in such tragic deaths, but the law will not take this into account. And no one should be above the law based on a warped social media idea of right and wrong.
As for the stone throwing, we do not know that the Fulani man was the first to throw stones forcing her to retaliate. It seems that you also are falling into the trap of emotional judgment, the assumption that the Fulani are guilty until proven otherwise. This is not a valid argument under any law. A wise commenter should maintain total objectivity.

I was and still am maintaining total objectivity when I blamed the herdsmen for encroaching her land, I was maintaining the same objectivity when I blamed her for killing.
You make it seem as though I am taking sides albeit I don't even know either one of them and just so you know I happen to know a few Fulani and igbo persons. Funny how I'm at the receiving end of this 'Lecture' cos I am a Muslim and I have been termed a terrorist by different people simply because some asshole in one part of the world hurts people and shouts God is great in Arabic so even if I don't like the Fulani the hurt I feel when I'm called a terrorist should be enough to stop me from labelling them all as killers.