bigfrancis21: Of course I did. To me, ancient Hebrews would look more like the Ethiopians, not like the image you posted. That image does not have any negroid racial features, despite being brown-skinned. The negroid ancient Egyptians, with whom the ancient Hebrews resembled, can still be found in lower Egypt till today and they are negroes, living in mostly the rural areas of Egypt. https://www.atlantablackstar.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Modern-Black-Egyptians.jpg
bigfrancis21: Of course I did. To me, ancient Hebrews would look more like the Ethiopians, not like the image you posted. That image does not have any negroid racial features, despite being brown-skinned. The negroid ancient Egyptians, with whom the ancient Hebrews resembled, can still be found in lower Egypt till today and they are negroes, living in mostly the rural areas of Egypt. https://www.atlantablackstar.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Modern-Black-Egyptians.jpg
U could be right, but then, their location is the midde of the world, they would have certainly mixed with other more lighter people a stone throw away.
Even the Ethiopian u quoted look like the picture I posted.
pazienza: Exactly. If at all Ndiigbo are related to Hebrews, then it must be the ancient Hebrews who were of darker hue, and not the current Caucasians occupying Palestine.
But what we see with Igbos that promote this Igbo Jew history, is a desperate attempt to link us with the current Caucasians occupying Palestine. I have no problem with us identifying with the current Caucasians occupying Palestine, as they are a very powerful group who had suffered persecution at the hands of their hosts all over the world because of their spirit of excellence and yet in the end, found a way to make themselves strong enough today to protect herself from those who hate them and return their hate in million folds to them. And even today are still surrounded by bitter enemies that seek nothing but their total annihilation from the surface of the earth.
I understand why the average Igbo would like to be linked with Israel, but we can do that without tampering our own history.
That's just my opinion, anyway.
They are not occupying Palestine, they merely took back their land that was forcibly taken from them through war, in fufilment of the word of God.
bigfrancis21: Pazienza is well-versed in history. Ancient Hebrews were not light-skinned as you have them today. They were black people, being related to/brothers to the ancient Egyptians who were also dark-skinned. One clue to this is when Herod sought to kill all little born hebrew males and Joseph and his wife were asked to go to Egypt and hide. Now as of the time of Herod, the Egyptians were known to be still black. Why would Joseph and his entire family be asked to go hide in a predominantly black country if they were white as the modern day jews? Would a white man escaping being caught hide in a black country where his skin color makes him stand out? No. Instead, a white man runs to a predominantly white country to hide. Same for a black man who would escape to a black country where he blends in easily. A white man doesn't hide in a country where it is full of blacks where he stands out and will be obviously detected easily. Joseph wasn't asked to run to nearby Jordan, nor modern-day Iraq nor Iran etc but to far-away Egypt in Africa. Egypt, being mostly black as of the time of herod, and Joseph escaping to the country to hide for many years and remain undetected all those years is an indication that the ancient Egyptians and Hebrews looked the same skinwise/racially. That should tell you something. Another example is when Joseph, the hebrew, was raised in Egypt and grew up to be a governor in Egypt and the Egyptians could not tell his was Hebrew/Non-Egyptian, the reason most likely being that both groups must have been the same racially for Joseph to grow up in the house of Pharoah as an Egyptian while still being Hebrew ancestrally. Nigerian Christians need to begin to reason certain things.
pazienza: So, you are saying that Igbo ancestors were Caucasians who migrated from middle East to the scorching sun and Mosquito belt of equatorial Africa and so how managed to survive by reproducing with indigenous Bantu people they met on group, who outnumbered them by far, and over the years, the Caucasian genes became completely recessive and we all became black people we are today with a handful of us being lighskinned?
Thats a lot of speculation. Even so, it would still mean that a large part of us is Bantu, thus making us real Africans and indigenous unique black group. Don't You think so?
No dat is not wat am saying. People in the middle east are not caucasian, they are Mediterranean looking with abit of melanie in their skin.
They probably looked like this. That is somewhere in the middle between white and black.
pazienza: Sowie bro, I can't relate to this Igbo Jew ish, my brain can't wrap it. We are more related to the central Africans all the way to South Africa than to the Ashkenazi Caucasians.
Black people are original race, in us is the substance from which all other races were made from.
This might explain why the black Igbo couple gave birth to a Caucasian baby. We are ancient people, Ndi gboo. The Jews came from us, not the other way round, this is my personal conviction.
Igbos have something in their blood from biblical times, naturally, even people that are half white turn black if they keep making babies with black people.
Skin colour is not really a factor here, migration to Igbo land from the City of David was over a thousand years ago. U settled and intermarried primarily with the bantu of Cross River and Akwa Ibom.
Not everybody from Isreal fled to Africa, many went in the direction of Europe, some india(Asia), how do u expect them to look after over 1000 years.
They only returned to Isreal after the second world war in 1945, before that they were stateless.
pazienza: Are the current Caucasians occupying Palestinians called Israelis the Hebrews spoken of in the bible? I have my doubts. But if they are, then I don't see how Ndiigbo or any African group is related to them.
No offense.
lollz! pazienza always tread with caution but how do u explain this. Y must it be Igbo dat make white babies in the whole wide world? Not Albino but Caucasian. Do u see how dark skinned her parents are?
MalcoImX: Tell them to Nnamdi, who wants to get Biafra for you by sitting in his parlour. He better come out and face the bullets like the honourable Prof has told him the way its done.
I will not insult u, simply becos Nnamdi Kanu has asked us not to insult u.
emmysoftyou: seriously, we need to get more words from them since we're almost the same wit them in terms of language and communication..
That is a very good idea, alot of our words have been altered with pronunciation and many lost. Now we have the source, we re-educate ourselves and fill in the gaps.
pazienza: They are Yorubas. Though they claim not to be descendants of Oduduwa, alongside Ijebu, but there is no mistaking the fact that their first language is Yoruba.
NB: I have not been to Ilaje before, so don't have firsthand Info on the people, all my knowledge about them are from second sources I met in Ondo, outside Ilaje land, one of these sources is an Indigene of Ilaje.
With regards to wat u wrote earlier, it appears Apoi ijaw now answer Yoruba name and apeak yoruba.
Arogbo Ijaw in Ese Odo local government are the only ones that still speak Ijaw.
However, recently, they ran military operation on them, many killed.
The two local government in Ondo with Ijaw are Ese Odo(Arogbo Ijaw) and Okitipipa(Apoi)
pazienza: There is no complexity any where in Biafra, complexities only exist in Nigeria.
Edo is not SS, it was put there for administrative convenience, the state geographically, religiously and Culturally is more of SW than SS.
There are no Muslims in SS, it's only in Arewa-Oduanistan which Edo is part of that Muslims co exist with Christians, they are meant for each other.
Those in Rivers are not part of your concern, we still have people from those parts of Igboland that do attend Ohanaeze meetings, bonds of brotherhood are not that easy to break, we will mend the rift and make our unity stronger, the way Biafra will be structured will ensure that.
As for Akwa-ibom, I am sorry for you if you think they will side Nigeria over Biafra, after Nigeria used their land Bakassi as a gift to Cameroun just to win the war and claim Eastern region oil wealth, they have seen Nigeria for what it is. Moreover there has always been a strong bond between Ndiigbo and people from that axis of Eastern region, when the time comes, we will put to test via referendum, I don't see them choosing an Islamic republic of Arewa-Oduanistan over a Christian Biafra.
The Ijaw communities are not in Ondo, they were carved into Ondo and can easily be carved out.
As for Yorubas in Kwara and Kogi, I don't see any problem there. Yorubaland, Edolands and Arewa are united by Islam, and together they will all form a United Islamic republic of Arewa-Oduanistan. It's a strong basis for nationhood, ie shared and common religious belief.
Wat do u know about the ilaje? Are dey Yorubas or mixed? Pls, i will check on ur response. As for the Ijaw communities in Ondo, as u said they can be carved back out.
slyrone: LOL I KNOW DEEP DOWN YOU REGRET BEING A FLAT HEAD AND A BROTHER TO EVANS, AND SECRETLY WISH YOU ARE AN AFONJA WARRIOR. BUT STILL I LL BEG GOD TO HAVE MERCY ON YOUR SOUL
emmasege: You guys should encourage your supreme leader the more by comments like this. Very soon, he'll speak against FFK & Fayose both of whom were the most vocal political voices in support of his release. He won't stop there, he'll curse Ojukwu and Azikiwe in their graves.
But for a stupid president like Buhari who incarcerated and gave him cheap popularity, who would've known how this albino looks like?
Buhari should please come back and finish What He started with this pollutant (Kanu) before he joins his ancestors. Nnamdi Kanu needs to be sent back to Kuje!
SHUT THE FCUCK UP!
WHO IS FFK AND WHO IS FAYOSI?
I ALWAYS VIEWED DEM WITH SUSPICION.
DID NNAMDI REQUEST FAYOSI AND FFK? NO!
DEY WENT LOOKING FOR HIM.
I HOPE DAT, I HAVE CLARIFIED UR CONFUSION?
OUR DIRECTOR IS NOT UNDER ANYBODY CONTROL BUT THE PEOPLE HE REPRESENTS.
Organs: Bros, your parents gave birth to you with sense and sincerity of purpose, hoping that you will grow, get sense and dwell and multiply in the land, then you grew up and become a mumu, they advised you, again and again and again but you refused and rather choose to remain in mumuism. Na wah for you oh.