₦airaland Forum

IconicR:
He was just being transparent but trust Nigerians to come for his head because of their natural hatred for successful men and women.

Eventually, It is not only politicians that will wreck Nigeria but dullards as well.

He can as well sanction every Tom, Dick and Harry but not our political elites. Power de berekete and sometimes you need to show off.

[quote author= post=124954093]Children of frustrations and perdition will still wail.

No news makes them happy in life.

Only bitterness, anger and frustration is the order of the day in their miserable lives.[/quote]Shamelessly speaking.

When the government proves too weaked deliberately or indeliberaly, the people will prove to 'criminal' intention or unintentionally

MaxInDHouse:
Immediately after the establishment of the church Satan began fighting {Revelations 12:17} he used everything within his power

So falsehood overshadowed the truth about Christianity for ages as Satan's agent were going from city to city, town to town and village to village forcing their doctrines on people. That was what is called the "DARK AGES" you can Google it.

But during the 20th century Jesus finally returned to restructure his group for the final work. Precisely in the year 1919 Jesus began working with a small group in America known back then as International Bible Students Association (IBSA) that was the only group willing to accept correction from the spirit King all other religions were upholding their man-made doctrines as they keep referring to the teachings of their human founders but this group was making correction upon corrections until the year 1931 when they have met the requirement God prophesied about His worshipers in the last days:

And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD'S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it. And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem. And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more. Isaiah 2:2-4

From then till today the true God began calling this group by another group name:
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15

Despite all the fine works of this group the world has hatred with passion against them {John 15:19} yet that's the world's most peaceful group befitting the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} and the whole world could testify that they have LOVE among themselves! John 13:34

That's the CHURCH today!

I beg to disagree with you on this with 3 main points.
(1) The name Jehovah Witness- Like many other churches, that name is not associated with the early Christians. Though on differ times Jesus asked his disciples to go and witness on His behave but they never adopt the name Jesus witness as would have been more appropriate than Jehovah Witness.

(2) The prophecy on Jesus second coming. The Bible let us know that on Jesus second coming, all eyes shall see Him.
Rev. 1:8:9 'Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.'
Acts 1:11 “Men of Galilee,” they said, “why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven.”

(3) Your policy on baptism is wrong. The early Christians never told anyone to embark on any session of study before they could be baptized. Rather, Jesus says anyone who comes to Him has learned from the Father. After all, who taught the woman with the issue of blood what to do to be healed, who taught the thief on the right what to say to be saved, etc? They do what they had to do or say by FAITH and Jesus healed them.

MaxInDHouse:
Immediately after the establishment of the church Satan began fighting {Revelations 12:17} he used everything within his power to prosecute, persecute and execute as many as he could among the first century Jewish disciples. But just as Jesus has said the gates of hell can't prevail sending believers to untimely grave (hell) never stopped them from multiplying in number!

So Satan devices another technique "if you can't beat them, lead them" he began initiating his agents right in their midst {1John 2:18 compare to Matthew 13:25, 38,39} that was how Christianity became faceless as Satan's agent gained the support of worldly politicians to suppress and intimate anyone who wants to uphold the real teachings of Christ so when Jesus looked into the future of Christianity he asked:

When i return, will i meet Christianity the way i left it? Luke 18:8

So falsehood overshadowed the truth about Christianity for ages as Satan's agent were going from city to city, town to town and village to village forcing their doctrines on people. That was what is called the "DARK AGES" you can Google it.

But during the 20th century Jesus finally returned to restructure his group for the final work. Precisely in the year 1919 Jesus began working with a small group in America known back then as International Bible Students Association (IBSA) that was the only group willing to accept correction from the spirit King all other religions were upholding their man-made doctrines as they keep referring to the teachings of their human founders but this group was making correction upon corrections until the year 1931 when they have met the requirement God prophesied about His worshipers in the last days:

And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD'S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it. And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem. And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more. Isaiah 2:2-4

From then till today the true God began calling this group by another group name:
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15

Despite all the fine works of this group the world has hatred with passion against them {John 15:19} yet that's the world's most peaceful group befitting the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} and the whole world could testify that they have LOVE among themselves! John 13:34

That's the CHURCH today!

I beg to disagree with you on this with 3 main points.
(1) The name Jehovah Witness- Like many other churches, that name is not associated with the early Christians. Though on differ times Jesus asked his disciples to go and witness on His behave but they never adopt the name Jesus witness as would have been more appropriate than Jehovah Witness.

(2) The prophecy on Jesus second coming. The Bible let us know that on Jesus second coming, all eyes shall see Him.
Rev. 1:8:9 'Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.'
Acts 1:11 “Men of Galilee,” they said, “why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven.”
(3) Your policy on baptism is wrong. The early Christians never told anyone to embark on any session of study before they could be baptized. Rather, Jesus says anyone who comes to Him has learned from the Father. After all, who taught the woman with the issue of blood what to do to be healed, who taught the thief on the right what to say to be saved, etc? They do what they had to do or say by FAITH and Jesus healed them.

MaxInDHouse:
There are four questions in the highlighted so i will address one then if you're satisfied you can signify and i will take the second question.

After the death, resurrection and ascension of Christ Jesus God fulfilled His promises which was spoken by Joel the prophet {Joel 2:28-30} at Pentecost God's Holy Spirit rushed in with a loud noise and distributed itself on the heads of all the 120 Christians in attendance {Act 2:1-6} they remembered everything Jesus taught them so vividly that day but how are they going to pass the message to visitors in Jerusalem who aren't Jews? So while they were speaking their own language trying to convey the message God's Holy Spirit turned their tongues each one into the language of his own listener!
Thousands among the Jews who heard Peter's speech that day became believers even though they were regretting all they had done to Jesus of Nazareth! Act 2:37-41
So the Church was established that very day as thousands of Jews became OBEDIENT to the apostles who are serving as the GOVERNING BODY of the church from then onward {Act 2: 42} whatever the apostles decrees stands just as Jesus of Nazareth had said:

And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.Matthew 16:19

From that day onward the CHURCH was founded and the apostles began acting as the BODY that must not be disobeyed by anyone who joined the group, the GOVERNING BODY wasn't perfect because they erred by trying to eradicate poverty in their midst {Act 4:34-35} even though Jesus had told them that there will always be poor ones amongst them {Mark 14:7} but whoever disobeyed or lied to the GOVERNING BODY despite their imperfection will be exposed! Act 5:1-11

Well, that's a pass by me, you can go on.

AntiChristian:
Show me verses that mentioned Christianity in the whole Bible?

Which church was Paul persecuting?

It's true Paul never met Jesus physically!
Yet he wrote more books than all those Jesus met physically!

1----Acts 11: 26. 'And it was in Antioch that the disciples were first called CHRISTIANS, - hence, Christianity.

2----Galasians 1:13 13 'You have heard, no doubt, of my earlier life in Judaism. I was violently persecuting the CHURCH of GOD and was trying to destroy it. I advanced in Judaism beyond many among my people of the same age, for I was far more zealous for the traditions of my ancestors.'

Your third argument is just your personal opinion, it's neither here nor there. If Paul is zealous, that his is personal business.

AntiChristian:
If Paul is fake then

The thirteen books written by Paul are: Romans, 1 and 2 Corinthians, Galatians, Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, 1 and 2 Thessalonians, 1 and 2 Timothy, Titus, and Philemon.

Throw all these away and see what remains of the Bible!

No More grace story!

Look well. We still have a lot, from Genesis, the beginning of Creation, to the Book of Acts, even up to when Paul, formerly known as Saul was baptized and others.
Christianity, was before the discipleship of Paul. He was even recorded as haven even persecuted the Church, enough as you would want, before he was converted. So it unfounded that Paul founded Christianity.

MrPRevailer:
Ever read the book of Revelation. It has so many answers to so many questions, yet many christians are scared to read it. When in fact we are already in the apocalyptic times. (E.g more than 16 million people have died from Covid19 vaccines, Birthrate decline is at its highest globally since the rollout. Etc)

Revelation chapter 2-3 is Jesus warnings to the 7 Churches of Asia. And these have their angels.
So there is no One Church of Christ

•Revelation 21 shows us the apostles are the foundation of the New Jerusalem City.
•Peter is the leade[s][/s]r of the Apostles as we are told in the book of Acts.
•Jesus also charged him to strengthen his brethren (the apostles).
•And charged him three times to feed his flock/sheep.

Contd.

I think Ephesians 4:4-6 is the answer to your 'So there is no One Church of Christ'.

'There is one BODY and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called; one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.'

AntiChristian:
The creator of Christianity is Paul! That's why it's call paulanity or Pauline Christianity!

Someone who never met Jesus physically but claimed he was appointed by one light! This light appointed disciple went on to write more letters turned scriptures than all the physically appointed disciples of Jesus!

Na be juju be that!

Ok, given that Paul was a fake, what about the other Apostles?

Dtruthspeaker:
Did you not hear that it was destroyed? And that Jesus said He would raise up a temple (Himself) to be worshipped in Spirit and in Truth?

It is like you are a Muslim, hence these nonsense questions. Churchgoers even know these things.

You are sounding like you know a lot. But then I don't think people of the Bible worship temples, rather they worship IN temples. If not, that's a new one on me.
And am not a Muslim if you like to know.

Kobojunkie:
Look on their signboard and business registration applications with the government for that information.

Ok, let just say you believe, and rightly so, that the Church was established on the Penticost Day, isn't it?

Kobojunkie:
Surely, you do not believe that Peter is the Rock of God on which God's church is built?

As for when your own churches were built, it came in to play the moment the second beast spoken of in John's book of Revelations landed during the first century AD.

And what are the names of those churches?

Dtruthspeaker:
Your question is not clear o.

Typo error, please. The the question is: How would Jesus say He was going to build what had already been built in Exidus 40.

Dtruthspeaker:
Then, if it this church you are looking, in my opinion thier's started in Exidus 40 when the Temple of God and His priests were consecrated and they could carry out their charge as Commanded by God

How would Just says He was going to build what had already been built?

mariovito:
There's no church in heaven or anywhere outside earth

Can you please explain.

Exmilitant:
The church started when peter filled with the holy ghost single-handedly converted three thousand people and instructed them to start gathering every first day of the week. that's a day after the Jews were done worshipping their own God.
then the church was spread to various part of the world by those converts, then came paul who started writing letters to those churches warning them of the dangers of not obeying the Christ.
Then there were splinter groups like the Arians who claimed Jesus was married had a wife and children.
Then there were the Gnostics who claimed Jesus powers and miracles was learnt from Egypt and other places.
Other church leaders emerged after Peter and Paul and John, these joined the politics of the day and gradually began syncretizing other beliefs with Jesus's teachings.
Then came Constantine an emperor who declared Christianity state religion and continued the syncretism until you have what you now have.

You know you are right by all these. But can we still find the true Church or do you think any random church will do?

Dtruthspeaker:
First question is whose church? Is it God's or Satan's or men?

God's and His dear Son, Jesus Christ's.

AntiChristian:
Jesus founded no church!

He didn't dictate the New Testament!

He didn't attend church on Sundays or Saturdays!

He didn't worship with songs plus dance and musical instruments!

Na someone else created Christianity and the church!

We go gist us the truth now?

Okay, let's go.
Maybe we should start from
'Na someone else created Christianity and the church!'.

Can you please explain that first.

dre11:
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2023/08/ministerial-list-how-tinubu-dumped-lagos-template/

Lagos Template killed the 'Molue indigenous transportation industry' didn't it? And enstablished the resources-wasting BRT. The Lagos Template is all about taxing the people severely and spending the money bogusly.

Jesus says in Matthew 16:18. 'And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.'

What is your take on this verse? What is the Church? Was it ever established and, if so, where is it today?

DrDunamis:
It's bulky...
Or I'll recommend you to books and tapes...

Why should it be bulky? I thought the Gospel of Christ is simple.

Ken4Christ:
Baptism is necessary but it is the baptism with the Holy Spirit.

But first you have to be initiated into his body. Jesus says, in vain, they call Him Lord Lord but do not what He Says. That means you have to do what He says first in other to get His approval. He commanded baptism, didn't He?

DrDunamis:
Oh, beautiful scripture. I wish I could send you a voice note with full explanation and scriptures for your to study and fully grasp the communication of Apostle Paul

I think some texted explanation we do, please. Thanks.

Tinubu just de use his baluba, garaga off-head de buy market upandan. I hope he can pay. He did not even try to sense the pulse of the people. Maybe he will decide their destiny for them. That's the way to go. Agbadorians, congratulations.

DrDunamis:
which verse are you referring to?

Gal. 3:27: 'For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.'
Good morning and thanks.

Some Nigerian bastards would still believe any lie from this evil government.

Dangote's refinery was a propaganda. YES OR NO?

Buying time to perpetuate more evils. By the way, where is Dangote's refinery?

TemplarLandry:
Well, it's a possibility.

Show me a gullible person and I will show you an agbadorian.

Penguin2:
They are IPOB🤦

I thought Agbado munchers said all northern NLC group pulled out of the protest because the leader of NLC is Igbo?

Oh! I forgot that Abuja is a Local Government in Anambra.

Ndi ala!

I tells you, hunger knows no tribe. This might just be the beginning of something. May this protest never favour the agbadorians. Bring back Nigeria, we must. May God help us, well-meaning Nigerians.