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Christianity EtcRe: Secret Sins & Consequences by harbjar(m): 4:58pm On Dec 10, 2017
EmpressT:
Thanks for your encouraging words. It means alot to me. But the thing is i am very emotional and i find it hard to let go of my past wayward life cos it is hunting me anytime i remember such.
The truth is there is no quick magic or a delete button to press that will remove your past but....
Here is the trick, accept your past as part of humanely side and you have once commited a error butnow back on path, be strong and accept who you were and dont allow satan toil with you and your feelings.. that's what he does, make you feel pain and regrets then force you into depression
As long as you have repented and never going back... Be happy and let the thought of God forgiving you overwhelm you over being depressed at what's past... woth tine you will heal
Christianity EtcRe: Secret Sins & Consequences by harbjar(m): 12:25pm On Dec 10, 2017
EmpressT:
Seriously, i am suffering in silence and it is the height of it. Even if i claimed to be a christian, i have alot of secret sins that i have kept from my family long ago. And it is getting to the point that i might do something unusual like committing a suicide right in my room. And if i do, i will still go to hell. This feeling is killing me slowly. I can't even sleep at night. I know I am no saint. I just wish i never come into existence.
i am not a xtain but
The ideology behind confessing your sin to a human before you can be forgiven is a false and most illogical statement preached by some people.. Your sin is your sin and its between you and your creator..
All you need to do now is stay in a quiet place, ask God for forgiveness and promise to never go back to it... Then you re forgiven, thats the only criteria to earn God's forgiveness as long as you regret those deeds of urs... Then forgiveness is yours..just have faith in God and dont be too paranoid of ur sins.
Remember the parable of the progidal son Jesus told...
The boy misbehaved when he realized and regrets his deeds, he went back home and his father forgave him instantly... Thats how God works
Christianity EtcRe: Is Jesus God? by harbjar(m): 11:53am On Dec 10, 2017
lovingJehovah:
No! It is not, rather since you have decided to contextualize the entire Bible, I am asking for clarification to be able to understand your exegesis in context. As for the Bible's message, I read and understand it perfectly.
I have never quoted any JW materials or made any references to it. I have been quoting the scriptures so far. Why are you attacking the JW? Is it proper for a Christian to attack a religion rather than its doctrine? If you are a sincere reader and firm believer in the Bible, can you show me in the Bible where the phrase "Holy Trinity" is written just as you mentioned?
Meanwhile, run to who for consultation? Even Moses, the writer of that word in the Book knew that God was not a name. That was why he asked God his name. God then gave him his name. That name is YHWH which is translated Jehovah in English and it appears over 7000 times in the HOLY scriptures. If you search your Bible, you will discover that the name that Moses asked for and was Given by God, is missing in your Bible. If you were Moses-like, you would have asked why that name is missing in your Bible. Are you serving the God of Moses? That name was removed by Trinitarians to give the doctrine of the Trinity a threshold. That name identifies one unique person, Jehovah. It discredits the heretic Trinity doctrine incorporated into Christianity by Constantine in 325 CE. None of the apostles taught that doctrine about 200 years before its incorporation by a pagan emperor, Constantine.
You put all verses of the scriptures that exposes the Trinity into context, yet you never let go of "I and the father are one". That verse, you will never be put into context, yet the same Jesus that you claim to be CO-EQUAL with Jehovah said that the father is GREATER than him. Jesus said that he is by Jehovah's side and Stephen confirms that in Acts 7:55 Languages have rules and if you consult with any Jew who speaks Hebrew, he will break it down for you. Let me analyse it locally for better comprehension. Yoruba uses EYIN (as singular), French also uses Vous (as singular), and so it goes in many other languages. Ask a Jew who speaks Hebrew for reference if he will corroborate your metaphorical definition of the word El.
If your point is genuine, why not refer to him as GodS (as your El)? Have you also checked the reflection of the plurality in the Greek translation? That is what Jesus said in Proverbs 8:30. He was a master worker [b]beside [/b]God. And according to the Bible that you read in 1 Corinthians 8:6, God did (and keeps doing) things THROUGH Jesus. If you read the book of Revelation 1:1 you will also see the relationship that Jesus and Jehovah have. Jehovah includes everyone he loves in his activities. He is a God of love and he is not selfish at all. Even the angels and men are involved in his activities. Moses stretched out his rod to divide the red sea. God could have just done it and asked them to walk through, but Moses was involved. David killed Goliath. He could have just said the word and that would be the end of Goliath, but David was involved. So, when he says US it means exactly what Jesus said in John 6:38 that he came to do (not our will, but) the WILL of Jehovah. I am not here for the sake of argument but to converse. Here is what Jesus said in Hebrews 10:7 Then I said: ‘Look! I have come (in the scroll* it is written about me) to do your will, O God.
You see how he referred to God and coming to do the will of his God? He did not say our will. Again, Jesus reiterated in John 5:30 I cannot do a single thing of my own initiative. Just as I hear, I judge, and my judgment is righteous+ because I seek, not my own will, but the will of him who sent me.
Let us see again how distinct Jesus and Jehovah are in person in Luke 22:42 “Father, if you want to, remove this cup from me (not us). Nevertheless, let, not my will, but yours take place.
Reading these books of the Bible, you can see that it wasn't co-equals working together, but a God and a son in Jesus and his father's words. Matthew 3:17 the father said "this is my son". But here you are calling God a liar by instructing him that it could have been "this is my mate or co-equal". Where in the bible did Jesus literally call himself God? Show me! I don't want a context, I want plain simple sentence uttered by Jesus just the way he referred to his father as God.
Oh! How you contradict your own self. You said that Jesus left his Godship in heaven and took the form of a man. Now, the three of the Gods came together at his baptism... huh How can you compute this discombobulation?
The deeper you go into this doctrine of the Trinity, the more mystifying it becomes. Kindly straighten up your teaching in your next reply.
Lol.. You don't believe in three in one God
You dont believe Jesus is God
You believe God is one and created jesus and did work through him
You believe Jesus submitted his will to God
Welcome to islam bro... That's exactly our view about jesus too
Christianity EtcRe: Secret Sins & Consequences by harbjar(m): 11:20am On Dec 10, 2017
Wizberg12:
What's a sin?
A sin is what goes against Man's stipulated laws.

What do I mean by that?
It's man that decides what's is sin or not.

Examples?
1. When a soldier kill hundreds of people, it's no sin because they're trained to kill, but when a civilian kills one person, he's threatened to have sinned against God because no one authorised him.

2. When a Chinese have sex with your brother/ sister, it's no sin because they, men approve it, but when you have sex here with your sister, it's a taboo and sin against God because we don't approve it.

3. When Chinese abort a child after the first it's no sin because law approves it but when you do same, you have sinned against God because we condemn it.

4 When you do a blood transfusion, it's no sin but when a Jehova Witness do same, he has sinned against God because their doctrine is against it.

5. When Muslims destroys bible, it's no sin because there religion supports it but when a Christian do same he has sinned against God.

6. When you smoke paper it's no sin because no one condemns it, but when you smoke weed it because sin because laws condemn it.

7. When same sex marry in UK, it's no sin because law approves it but when you do same here, you have sinned against God because we condemn it.

8. When a Christian wife goes to church, it's no sin because we approve it but when a Muslim wife goes to mosque, it's a sin because they condemn it.

9. When children goes to church, it's no sin because we approve it but when Chinese children goes to church it's a sin because they condemn it.

10. When we have sex married it's no sin because we approve it but when we have sex unmarried it's sin because we condemn it.

I can keep going on and on. But what am I trying to say, no one knows the mind of God based on what's sin or what's not sin.

In a nutshell, sin is what goes against Man's stipulated laws.
Well i have nothing to say to the jargons you have written cause its ur opinion but pls my attention is drawn to point 5 where you say its no sin if the destroy Muslims destroys the bible cause iur religion accept it.. Pls there is no where either in the hadith or Quran that allows Muslims to destroy the christains or jews spiritual books because its Haram (forbidden) to do so in islam.. We are asked to believe in the books revealed to moses, david solomon and jesus....
And point 8. Its no sin for a woman to go to the mosque to worship and no one prohibits her to do... Its is just more preferred if she stayed at home and pray
Christianity EtcRe: Is Jesus God? by harbjar(m): 10:15am On Dec 10, 2017
joshnes:
harbjar Luke 23:46-47 "Then He said to them "Thus it is written and thus it was necessary for the Christ to suffer and to rise from the dead the third day, and that repentance and remissions of sins should be preached in His name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem."" Matthew 26:28 "For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins." THESE ARE ALL JESUS WORDS SIR, NO PAUL HERE, STRICTLY JESUS.
Check your reference for luke again.. It seems wrong
Christianity EtcRe: Is Jesus God? by harbjar(m): 10:11am On Dec 10, 2017
salvation101:
well the word u refer to as jehovah is actually YHWH or Yahweh... The word Elohim is used to refer to God 2700 times in the old testament undecided i would love to hear ur explanation of that...
Well this is actually not my fight because it seems its a trinitarian xtain and monotheistic xtain at war.. But let me just help clear it air..
The word "Elohim".....
You see in Hebrew and also in Arabic (sister language and brethen) they have two types of plurals known as plural of numbers and respect (duel) the word IM is a plural of respect and God uses it to glorify himself and not to say he is two or three or thousand in one...
The jews are monotheistic in nature and like the Muslims are totally against the trinity doctrine and for once they never questioned that word Elohim cause they understand the deeper meaning of their literature....
Christianity EtcRe: Is Jesus God? by harbjar(m): 9:59am On Dec 10, 2017
achorladey:
The devine light that Jesus is not the son of God? Do you think calling Jesus son of God constitute part of the corruption contained in the Bible. I am tempted to ask who is Adam in relation to God? Is it right to view individuals and those that have worked and walked with God the way God sees them? Do you feel Christians demean God by saying he has a son? Response please?
You see i dont have an objection if you call humans children of God or sons of God because according to the bible both new and old..good people were being referred to as sons of God
Romans 8:14
For all who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God. ...
Its the genius of the jewish language, but you see christains say jesus is a different kind of son.. That he is "begotten" and not like created like adam and all of us but "begotten" by God....
So now i am asking you.. What does begotten mean??
Christianity EtcRe: Is Jesus God? by harbjar(m): 8:06am On Dec 09, 2017
achorladey:
I don't think you need to explain that God does not need a son to harbjar, the simple explanation of God creating things is summarised in Revelation 4:11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure(will) they are and were created.
Harbjar believes Allah has purpose of doing things, he should not be asking does Allah need a son. If Allah creates something and calls it a son will you change it and insist that Allah can never have a son.
Lol... You see the reason why we humans need sons is the fact that we die and we need someone to carry on with our progeny and continue so that our bloodline wont die... So sons are there to succeed their fathers
If you believe God is eternal and never to die.... Then why should he need a need, religion shouldn't always be about faith, it has to be logical
So lets reason... Will jesus continue to be the son eternally.. No chance of him of taking of his father somedayhuh
Question your faith and when you see loopholes, know you re not on the right path
Christianity EtcRe: Is Jesus God? by harbjar(m): 8:00am On Dec 09, 2017
joshnes:
God did not need a Son, He needed a perfect sacrifice because without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sin. So He came down as a man (Jesus, also the Son) who was without sin who died, was buried, presented His blood in heaven and resurrected. Thereby reconciling God and man. God did not need a son but He needed a sacrifice in order to have many children.
You see this idea of human sacrifice before God can forgive is the most ridiculous thing ever to have existed in a religious doctrine... Unfortunately its the foundation of Christianity itself...
So you mean the creator of the universe needs a blood of human to be shed before he could forgive the sins of humans..
Which father kills his Son to forgive the sins of those who offended him... Its illogical in every Angle
This doctrines never existed in the old Testament, jesus didn't even preach it too....
That was the soul idea of the prodigal son parable he preached which you know very well..
A son misbehaved (sin) and when he realized his mistake and went back and his Father was glad to receive him... No penalty was paid, nothing.. Just forgiveness.. Thats God... No need for a human blood to be forgiven, Jesus himself shared this as a lesson to you but nah!! you guys re quick to leave his teachings but follow paul..
Then you claim to follow Jesus Christ but in turn its Paul who never met jesus that u re following ....
I dare you to quote me a verse in a Old Testament that supports this idea of original sin and human death neeeded for forgiveness or where jesus himself preached that...
M sure you will end up quoting paul here not jesus words
Christianity EtcRe: Is Jesus God? by harbjar(m): 10:16am On Dec 07, 2017
joshnes:
You're almost there, but not like Eve from Adam. More like a branch from a tree. The tree has the branch and the branch is the tree
..i am forced to accept your perception though i know 99.9% of xtains dont see that word "begets" as break out from
But over and above that So why does God need a son....
Forum GamesRe: Is This Murder Or Suicide by harbjar(m): 12:03am On Dec 07, 2017
Definitely a murder case... After placing his victim on the chair trying to nake it look a suicide.... He didn't know i have seen him trying to escape through the left side window... you have to zoom it before getting a clearer picture
Christianity EtcRe: Is Jesus God? by harbjar(m): 11:57pm On Dec 06, 2017
joshnes:
The NIV you mentioned is perfect for what I am trying to explain to you. It uses "...one and only Son who came from the Father..." (John 1:14 NIV). Which is what I told you begotten here means "to proceed from" "to come from". He is the only Son to come from the Father. You would have understood this if you weren't trying to be so sarcastic.
Noo am not... Trying to reason with you and need you to explain to me.. Willing to learn... If you say beget doesn't mean to reproduce as humans and animals does but "to proceed out of " not like through the orifice but like hoe eve was created out of Adam right....huh
Christianity EtcRe: Who Is Worshiping Idol Now?; Traditionalist Asks As He Shares These Photos by harbjar(m): 6:55am On Dec 05, 2017
Iamzik:
I can pray facing any direction.... How about you try praying facing south tomorrow morning? I bet you can't.

Care to explain why Allah only hears prayers in one direction?
Its good you have asked.
The idea about facing One Direction in Islam is so our prayers will be coordinated and all Muslims will face the same place while prayer cos a rich and influential man might want to build a mosque and decide to face it towards his house or his mother's grave or anywhere else.. Its just for coodination... Everything in islam is coordinated and no one can come and claim he has a better idea of how it should be done... If a religion is from God, God himself should give us how he wants to be worshipped and thats islam... Everything we do is backed by the Quran and hadith and not some Men's wishes... But you see, in Nigeria that the kaaba is far from us or anyother part of the world and we cant say that this is its position, we re asked to face the east.... So are u going to say we re worshipping the EAST TOO grin grin grin
But when u re in a place where you can locate the East
easily.. You can face Anywhere. Cos allah said in surah rahman chapter 55 that he is the lord of two east and two west...
Surah Al-Baqara, Verse 177:


It is not Al-Birr (piety, righteousness, and each and every act of obedience to Allah, etc.) that you turn your faces towards east and (or) west (in prayers); but Al-Birr is (the quality of) the one who believes in Allah, the Last Day, the Angels, the Book, the Prophets and gives his wealth, in spite of love for it, to the kinsfolk, to the orphans, and to Al-Masakin (the poor), and to the wayfarer, and to those who ask, and to set slaves free, performs As-Salat (Iqamat-as-Salat), and gives the Zakat, and who fulfill their covenant when they make it, and who are As-Sabirin (the patient ones, etc.) in extreme poverty and ailment (disease) and at the time of fighting (during the battles). Such are the people of the truth and they are Al-Muttaqun (pious - see V. 2:2).
(English - Mohsin Khan)

via iQuran
Christianity EtcRe: Who Is Worshiping Idol Now?; Traditionalist Asks As He Shares These Photos by harbjar(m): 6:51am On Dec 05, 2017
Iamzik:
I can pray facing any direction.... How about you try praying facing south tomorrow morning? I bet you can't.

Care to explain why Allah only hears prayers in one direction?
Its good you have asked.
The idea about facing One Direction in Islam is so our prayers will be coordinated and all Muslims will face the same place while prayer cos a rich and influential man might want to build a mosque and decide to face it towards his house or his mother's grave or anywhere else.. Its just for coodination... Everything in islam is coordinated and no one can come and claim he has a better idea of how it should be done... If a religion is from God, God himself should give us how he wants to be worshipped and thats islam... Everything we do is backed by the Quran and hadith and not some Men's wishes... But you see, in Nigeria that the kaaba is far from us or anyother part of the world and we cant say that this is its position, we re asked to face the east.... So are u going to say we re worshipping the EAST TOO grin grin grin
But when u re in a place where you can locate the East
easily.. You can face Anywhere. Cos allah said in surah rahman chapter 55 that he is the lord of two east and two west...
Surah Al-Baqara, Verse 177:
لَّيْسَ الْبِرَّ أَن تُوَلُّوا وُجُوهَكُمْ قِبَلَ الْمَشْرِقِ وَالْمَغْرِبِ وَلَٰكِنَّ الْبِرَّ مَنْ آمَنَ بِاللَّهِ وَالْيَوْمِ الْآخِرِ وَالْمَلَائِكَةِ وَالْكِتَابِ وَالنَّبِيِّينَ وَآتَى الْمَالَ عَلَىٰ حُبِّهِ ذَوِي الْقُرْبَىٰ وَالْيَتَامَىٰ وَالْمَسَاكِينَ وَابْنَ السَّبِيلِ وَالسَّائِلِينَ وَفِي الرِّقَابِ وَأَقَامَ الصَّلَاةَ وَآتَى الزَّكَاةَ وَالْمُوفُونَ بِعَهْدِهِمْ إِذَا عَاهَدُوا وَالصَّابِرِينَ فِي الْبَأْسَاءِ وَالضَّرَّاءِ وَحِينَ الْبَأْسِ أُولَٰئِكَ الَّذِينَ صَدَقُوا وَأُولَٰئِكَ هُمُ الْمُتَّقُونَ

It is not Al-Birr (piety, righteousness, and each and every act of obedience to Allah, etc.) that you turn your faces towards east and (or) west (in prayers); but Al-Birr is (the quality of) the one who believes in Allah, the Last Day, the Angels, the Book, the Prophets and gives his wealth, in spite of love for it, to the kinsfolk, to the orphans, and to Al-Masakin (the poor), and to the wayfarer, and to those who ask, and to set slaves free, performs As-Salat (Iqamat-as-Salat), and gives the Zakat, and who fulfill their covenant when they make it, and who are As-Sabirin (the patient ones, etc.) in extreme poverty and ailment (disease) and at the time of fighting (during the battles). Such are the people of the truth and they are Al-Muttaqun (pious - see V. 2:2).
(English - Mohsin Khan)

via iQuran
Christianity EtcRe: Who Is Worshiping Idol Now?; Traditionalist Asks As He Shares These Photos by harbjar(m): 6:29am On Dec 05, 2017
NwaAmaikpe:
shocked


Both are worshipping idols.
Only that the one kneeling to the statue of virgin Mary is too irate, dogmatic and self-righteous to even know he is worshipping an idol.

With that said, I'm so sure Catholics won't make heaven.
They worship graven images,
They don't read the bible,
They interfere with the dead.

Catholics are closer to Islam than they are to Christianity.
https://www.nairaland.com/3909943/similarities-between-catholicism-islam-pics
Pls.... Don't dont ever you tag us with the Catholics in anyway... Afterall
They believe in trinity, Muslims consider that polytheism
They read the bible not the quran
They call mary mother of GOD, we Muslims believe God is one, he has no father nor mother
They call Jesus the begotten son, in islam God is neither begotten not does he begets.
They call their place of worship a CHURCH and not a masjid
Our faith and principles are completely different amd there is no similarity between us in no way
Christianity EtcRe: Is Jesus God? by harbjar(m): 6:21am On Dec 05, 2017
joshnes:
Obviously, you're a muslim, that'r why you're starting with the blasphemy scream. Begotten in this case means "to proceed out of". Jesus is a man that proceeded out of the father, thereby becoming the only begotten Son of God. You could become a son of God too, if you just recieve Him (Jesus) into your life.
Basically God gave birth to him grin.. It only gets worse the more you try to prove that word "begotten "
No wonder The New International Version (NIV) removed the word and used "only son"..
Jobs/VacanciesRe: Sacked By Konga, Customer Service Rep Gets 30 Job Offers On Twitter In 24 Hours by harbjar(m): 6:13am On Dec 05, 2017
NwaAmaikpe:
shocked

Konga is sacking staff.

No wonder they haven't delivered my sugarmummy's vibrator.
What does your sugar mummy need a vibrator for when you should always be there at Her service... Does it mean you re.... shocked shocked cool
Christianity EtcRe: Is Jesus God? by harbjar(m): 7:53pm On Dec 03, 2017
lovingJehovah:
You asked a shady question but I noticed your biased response when the table was turned. You have a passion for Mohammed and you want to denigrate Jesus as being our Lord. This topic is about Christianity and if you, with an opposing view would want to participate, you should at least flag your presence as a non-believer before antagonizing. I have no problem with continuing with you though.
The holy scriptures were written hundreds of years before the birth of Mohammed. It means that before Mohammed was born or chosen as a prophet according to your belief, he knew about God and probably had a copy of the scriptures particularly the one given to Musa. Let me streamline it to your own understanding. Now, we do not believe that Jesus was given a book as you believe that angel Jibril gave to all the prophets. His words were written down by his apostles.
Here are the questions:
1. What book of the law or of the prophets did Mohammed read prior to receiving the Koran?
2. Whose descendant was he and who are his ancestors?
3. What language did his ancestors speak?
4. In what language was the law given to Musa and the rest of the prophets written?
5. What language did Muhammad speak?
6. What language does angel Jibril speak?
7. Why was the Koran in Arabic and what is the significance of Arabic in Islam?
8. Did any other prophet sleep with an 8 year old or encourage pedophilia?
9. If the descendants of Abraham were Israelites, how did Muhammad find himself in Saudi Arabia?
10. Is there a book containing the records of the other prophets.
Let me just rush through ur other questions so it wont sound like am running from them..
2. Mohammed is from the descendant ot Abraham and his Great grand father is Ishmael... And God promise to Abraham according to the bible is to make him father of all nations.. Gods promise to Ishmael according to genesis 17vs 20
As for Ishmael, I will bless him also, just as you have asked. I will make him extremely fruitful and multiply his descendants. He will become the father of twelve princes, and I will make him a great nation.
3.his ancestor depending from who you mean but we both know Abraham who happens to be the father of all nations wasnt a jew, and his language was oldAramaic which give birth to Hebrew and arabic and a critical study of languages u will know they sound v. Much alike.. Do ur research on that but let me help you.. Moses in Hebrew, musa in Arabic, Ishmael -Ismail, Abraham -Ibrahim etc
4. Because the rest of the prophets starting form Jacob the sons of Jacob that gave birth to the Jewish language was Hebrew laws were given to moses in hebrew.. But Muhammad is from their brethren that spoke a sister language called arabic
5.arabic
6.jibril is an angel and they aint humans and guven by Gof they should be able to speak any language Gid want them to
7. The quran has an answer to that.

Allah sent down the Quran in the Arabic language; Allah says: {And We did not send any messenger except [speaking] in the language of his people.} [Quran 14:4] the previous Prophets, may Allah exalt their mention, were sent to their own people, so it is for this reason that they were sent speaking their language. However, our Prophet Muhammad sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam ( may Allaah exalt his mention ) was sent to all nations, but why is it that he was sent with the language of some of them [the Arabs]? The answer is, 'Either he sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam ( may Allaah exalt his mention ) would have been sent with the language of all of them, which would have been unusual and abnormal; rather, this would have been most unlikely, and it is impossible that each word of the Quran be repeated in each language, so it had to be in only one language, and the Arabic language is most deserving of it, as it is the richest and most eloquent one and because it is the most suitable language for the addressees (the Arabs).”
8. That the prophet slept with an 8yrs old gal is a shame to come from u... There is no such proof in the quran that said Aisha was atva certain age when she married the prophet... All this age stuffs are just speculation from different theologians trying to guess the age in which she was which could be false.. So have said it was 16 some said 18 19 and some said it was even 9... Getting age 8 from u is another new age which i have never heard of before... So u see, people just saying what thEy wish ..but for clearance.. Mhe was not and never a peodeophile.. It would do well for u to find out the age of Mary mother of Jesus when she married
9. Abraham gave birth two sons remember, its in ur bible.. Ishmael the first son and isaac the second
Ishmael birthed arabia.. isaac birthed isreal... Its all part of the promise of God to make Abraham father of all nations not one nation...
10. Yes the Quran.. M the truth and accurate stories of all Prophet from Adam to jesus including his mother and his birth..you might want to get a cipy of quran and read them.. Very interesting and deep ones.. The Quran said

Say ye: "We believe in Allah, and the revelation given to us, and to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and that given to Moses and Jesus, and that given to (all) prophets from their Lord: We make no difference between one and another of them: And we bow to Allah (in Islam)." (Surah Al-Baqara, 136)..
Jesus Christ said seek the truth and ut shall set u free..
Ma salam
Christianity EtcRe: Is Jesus God? by harbjar(m): 7:24pm On Dec 03, 2017
lovingJehovah:
You asked a shady question but I noticed your biased response when the table was turned. You have a passion for Mohammed and you want to denigrate Jesus as being our Lord. This topic is about Christianity and if you, with an opposing view would want to participate, you should at least flag your presence as a non-believer before antagonizing. I have no problem with continuing with you though.
The holy scriptures were written hundreds of years before the birth of Mohammed. It means that before Mohammed was born or chosen as a prophet according to your belief, he knew about God and probably had a copy of the scriptures particularly the one given to Musa. Let me streamline it to your own understanding. Now, we do not believe that Jesus was given a book as you believe that angel Jibril gave to all the prophets. His words were written down by his apostles.
Here are the questions:
1. What book of the law or of the prophets did Mohammed read prior to receiving the Koran?
2. Whose descendant was he and who are his ancestors?
3. What language did his ancestors speak?
4. In what language was the law given to Musa and the rest of the prophets written?
5. What language did Muhammad speak?
6. What language does angel Jibril speak?
7. Why was the Koran in Arabic and what is the significance of Arabic in Islam?
8. Did any other prophet sleep with an 8 year old or encourage pedophilia?
9. If the descendants of Abraham were Israelites, how did Muhammad find himself in Saudi Arabia?
10. Is there a book containing the records of the other prophets.
Lol... I wasn't bias, just didn't want us to digress from the topic but since you have askes i Will answer you
Firstly, i respect and loveJesus son of Mary (Peace be upon both of them) and never will i ever denigrate him... Why? That us because our beloved Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) through him has made it compulsory for every Muslim walking on the surface of earth to believe Jesus and accept him as one of the greatest Messengers of God from the Quran not only him but all other prophets that came before him, moses, jacob, noah, John the Baptist etc... But u see the difference between us (Muslims and christains) is that you xtains say he (Jesus) is "son of God," part of the trinity or even God himself....
We Muslims totally go against that and say from clear evidence of the Quran and even the bible that Jesus never claimed divinity or whatever you people tag him as bit a righteous prophet of God.. Whatever you say he is, you people call him that not him..
On questions about the prophet of God Muhammad..
Well it appears you really dont know much bou islam and by Allah there isn't a single question of urs that i cant answer with bith evidence from the Bible and Quran..
First question abiut Prophet Muhammad, if only u knew a little about him, u would have known he was a man who couldn't read or write, so how would he have read the laws of moses of whoever law u claimed he read before writing 4th e Quran.. As a matter of fact, its because of this reason Allah (God) made himthat way so people like u wouldn't accuse him of stealing it from other scriptures before him..
The first verse he received was angel Gabriel telling him to READ three times and he said he couldn't read..
Well the Bible has this prophesy too
Isiah 29verse 12 says
Then book will be given to the one who is illiterate, saying, "Please read this." And he will say, "I cannot read..... So then i am asking which of the prophets of Gid was given a book and he said he couldn't read
... I will answer all ur questions one after the other giving u proofs from ur bible .i hope u take time and research more more islam.. But to help ur quest.. I had advice u to geta translated copy of the Quran and see what it says and stop following hearsay
Christianity EtcRe: Is Jesus God? by harbjar(m): 4:52pm On Dec 03, 2017
lovingJehovah:
Well, your analysis is embryonic. Moreover, let me reverse the question, what is special about Mohammed?
Everything bro.. Came as a fufilment of Jesus(peace be upon him) prophesy ..
But this isn't bout mohammed (peace be upon him) but about the term GOD BEGETS... thats blasphemy
Christianity EtcRe: Is Jesus God? by harbjar(m): 4:32pm On Dec 03, 2017
lovingJehovah:
If you look the word up in your dictionary, you will see the actual meaning in this context. Beget also means to create, cause or bring about. What dictionary do you use?
Well unless you a concordance approach... We all jnow to beget means to sire... And to sire means its biological and for it to be biological means it has to cone from copulation of a male female... unless you want to convince urself that is not wht comes through ur mind whenever u read that verse...
But lets use ur approach... If it meant create, adam was also created from nothing , eve was also created from a Father and no mother... So what then is special about jesus
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Christianity EtcRe: Is Jesus God? by harbjar(m): 2:33pm On Dec 03, 2017
joshnes:
When man begets a child, the child is a man. The same when God begets a son, He is God (John 1:1). In John 14:8-9, What Jesus said effectively was I Am the Father. Philip asked to see the Father, Jesus' reply was have I been so long with you that you don't know ME. In other words, what you're looking for is right in front of you and what was he looking for? The Father. In Phil 2:5-7, we are made to understand that Jesus had the form of God, but dropped the reputation and did not seek equality with God here on earth. For Him to drop a reputation, He must have one, which the scripture said is the "the form of God". You need to understand that here on earth, Jesus humbled Himself before God and became low, to die for you and I. This did not change His deity thereafter or therebefore, Jesus upholds everything by The Power Of His Word. The world was made by Him and without Him was not anything made that was made. Unless you are saying that God did not make the world, then Jesus is not God.
Beget means to reproduce..
You mean God gave birth to a son!!!!! Thats blasphemy.. Pls who is the mother or wife of God
Christianity EtcRe: No, The Muslim Jesus Is Not Even Close To The Jesus Of The Bible by harbjar(m): 10:29pm On Nov 30, 2017
lagostokd:
Your statement "There are a lot more verses from the Old Testament that allow polygamy"is very wrong because God never permitted any of them to marry more than one wife.

God wants monogamy for the purpose of raising godly children. Read Malachi 2: 15 - 16

Didn’t the Lord make you one with your wife? In body and spirit you are his. And what does he want? Godly children from your union. So guard your heart; remain loyal to the wife of your youth. “For I hate divorce!” says the Lord, the God of Israel. “To divorce your wife is to overwhelm her with cruelty,” says the Lord of Heaven’s Armies. “So guard your heart; do not be unfaithful to your wife.”

Your Allah commanded otherwise
Quran 4:3
"Marry of the women, who seem good to you, two or three or four; and if ye fear that ye cannot do justice (to so many) then one (only) or (the captives) that your right hands possess."

Your Allah approved of marriage to two, three, or four. In fact, your Allah approves marrying captive girls. (Chibok girls come to mind). Isn't your Allah the inspiration for boko haram marrying off some Chibok girls?
you still haven't answered my questions.... Did moses, abraham, David, Solomon etc that all married more than one wife commit adultery.... Because God said do not commit adultery.... And if they did why didn't God raise a single verse to condemn them for adultery
RomanceRe: "Women Should Marry 4 Husbands Also" - Muslim Lady by harbjar(m): 9:36pm On Nov 20, 2017
Benita27:
Do you have the names "Adam" and "Eve" in your Koran?. Just confused. That being said, you either accept your religious doctrines or change religion.
Yes we have those names
Christianity EtcRe: Will Females Using Attachments, Jewellery And Trouser Go To Hell? by harbjar(m): 1:35pm On Nov 19, 2017
musa234:
you calling them assholes shows your level of Christianity.. Hypocrite
Well am not a xtain
Christianity EtcRe: Will Females Using Attachments, Jewellery And Trouser Go To Hell? by harbjar(m): 11:18am On Nov 19, 2017
All ya assholes saying there is nothing like hell or heaven and religion is a scam bullshit... Now i am asking... What is the purpose of your life... Why re u on earth??
Did you come to earth to sleep, eat, drink and satisfy ir sexual desires and then die.no accountability for what you ve done on earth, people like hitler wotn have a judgement for what they did, rapist, ritualist and etc will just die and be eaten by worms.. Looking for excuses to commit sins
I pity your souls
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Lol i am currently serving there.... Hell of a state in my opinion... It has its good side sha
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RomanceRe: My Boyfriend Has A Female Bestie... by harbjar(m): 3:57pm On Nov 15, 2017
Ayomideen:
Well it depends on the people involved,although emotions are likely to set in and "things" might also happen due to their closeness buh all in all so far the GF trusts her guy n the guy himself issa faithful dude,I really see no biggie
To me its quite simple.... If it was ur boyfriend that got friend zoned... Then i think his heart might be somewhere else... U should confront him respectfully and talk this shit out

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