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dazzlingd:
Theres something about otems write up. It beats mere imaginations.
Whether believable or not, theres something about it. I've taken my time to read the write up over the years and I'm awed because it takes more than just imaginations to put that together.
Otem has histories of cultures, names, people and places that you dont even know exists until I browed them.

oh! So you browsed them and realized they names existed. So what makes you think otem does not read extensively? Then use his knowledge to write his stories.

Annie001:
Make una dey lie small small na
Na so that papaya ex for ig say she buy chain for 15m she con bring out fake tester
Werey too plenty among this yeyebrities

abeg who be that one again

Steep:
If this date is correct, then the Great Pyramid existed before the Flood of Noah’s day.
One of the main reasons for this question is that secular literature commonly dates the Great Pyramid around 2550 BC.1 If this date is correct, then the Great Pyramid existed before the Flood of Noah’s day, which occurred around 2350 BC and destroyed everything on earth (2 Peter 3:5–6)! Obviously, something is askew.

Were the pyramids built before the Flood? Did the pyramids survive the Flood? Consider three points:

First, the Great Pyramid of Giza lacks significant water damage. The Flood was incredibly destructive. Researchers point out that the entire surface of the earth was radically changed. The surface of every continent was destroyed and new mountains formed. Thousands of feet of mud and sand were dumped on every continent, burying and fossilizing creatures and plants. Nothing manmade could survive such a catastrophe. (By the way, that means that the location of the Garden of Eden is also lost.)

Second, the pyramid is built on the fossil-bearing rock layers from the Flood of Noah’s day. Clearly, the Flood had to predate a pyramid built on top of the Flood layers.

Third, the Hebrew word translated “Egypt” is Mizraim. Mizraim was Noah’s grandson, born to Ham after the Flood. So Mizraim’s descendants could not have built the Great Pyramid of Egypt (Mizraim) until after the Flood, and for that matter, after the events at the Tower of Babel that caused Mizraim’s family to move to the region of the Nile River.

With all this evidence, the Great Pyramid is clearly post-Flood.

So, why the older date for the Great Pyramid in secular literature? Many of the accepted dates for events in ancient Egypt came from an ancient list of pharaohs and the lengths of their reigns recorded by the historian Manetho, who lived in Egypt about 200 BC.

Although there is much more to this, Manetho assumed the pharaohs’ reigns had been consecutive and so tallied them up sequentially to arrive at a very long Egyptian chronology. The problem, it appears, is that some of these pharaohs were reigning at the same time in different Egyptian kingdoms—the Upper Kingdom, Middle Kingdom, or Lower Kingdom. Sometimes fathers and sons seem to have reigned together for a long time, too.

So the dates for the pharaohs are grossly inflated. As an analogy, if we took all the past state governors of the United States and stacked their terms sequentially, the nation would appear to be much, much older than it is! The problem should be obvious.

In brief, the secular date for the Great Pyramid is incorrect, and all the pyramids and ziggurats across the world today are post-Flood construction.

so what is the correct date for the rulership of the Pharoahs? And what about the chinese dynasties in this same period?

Steep:
China is not the only one that has such story, many civilizations far apart also has similar story

yes... I know that. But have you read the story of the flood in the bible?

Steep:
China has the story about the great flood,

of cause there was a flood in china. So did the flood wipe out all humanity and all animals that were not in the ark according to the bible?

HellVictorinho3:
You didn't respond to my request for a loan the other time.....why?

. So sorry. I have some debts at hand too

MaxInDHouse:
I will throw my Bible away if you can present a group helping people in their neighbourhood to erase politics and racism from their hearts.
Because that's the only reason why people are killing people conscientiously!

look around you, which countries have the lowest crime rate? They have very very low number of Christian's and muslims. While countries like the United states and nigeria and south Africa have high crime rates

HellVictorinho3:
You are wasting your time if it's Otem...... anyone can come up with anything and start accusing people of not understanding it.......as if it is something to be understood.




I think humans are dumber than stones......do you understand?

lol. Funny how the rubbish item writes is what some are celebrating. Item just cooks up stories and let's his imagination run wild

dazzlingd:
There are intelligent people still believing the bible, the only reason is because they havent taken time to review the bible properly.

A gentle review of the bible will make an intelligent being know that it is the biggest bullshit of all time full of crap, myths, exaggerations and flaws. Children story books are better

and the place of honesty is important too. We humans are naturally dishonest even to ourselves

herdeyhoh:
Pocohantas, what more can I say than a big thank you, I was one of the beneficiaries of your benevolence and kindheartedness in December 2020. Thank you, I am very grateful, the Lord replenish your finances forever in Jesus name, Amen

you must be a good person to come back and appreciate her.

Thegracefulness:
Haha. The soot is not even remotely the reason. It’s economic hardship and the pressing need to evolve. Let God help us.

amen o. Wish you the best sir

BegAt40:
But the painter won't throw people in hell for not knowing him even after intentionally making his identity a secret.

everything about god was created by humans even the laws of this so called god. No wonder there are many gods and even those who serve same god are saying different things on behalf of the same god

vinceyinnovation:
Somebody did a painting, so nice and great, and left the painted work in the canvas and left....others who came start debating that nobody painted it. Why? Because the painter is not seen. The painter decides in his own discretion not to reveal himself to everyone.

Some people now try to see if they can have peace by confidently assuming there is no painter. Why? Because those who believe there is a painter cannot prove it either.

"The war between atheist/agnostic and believers"

bad analogy. We know humans paint because we have see humans paint, so when we see a painting we know a human must be behind it. For life, have we seen other examples of life outside earth that god created and we know for sure it was so so god that created it? So how did we arrive at the assumption that god created the life on this earth. Which god? Where did this god come from

Thegracefulness:
The truth is: humans generally like to feel helpless and avoid taking responsibility. That’s why they invented their version of god. To seem their fate is not in their hands. Nobody would tell me that this “pastor” does not realise what he is doing is foolish. But don’t be surprised, it’s sacred displays like these that bring members to the church.

There’s one in Port Harcourt that asks members to rub “anointed oil” on their hands, put it inside their underwear and give him to sniff.

Religion is by far the greatest trance in history of humankind. When you fall deep into it, there’s no awakening.

1-5 plots of Land for sale in Port Harcourt. Selling for 1.5 million naira, price is still negotiable.

you want to sell and run away because of the black soot abi?

A001:
You're right, but it's also good to approach things with an open mind.

not when peddlers of such theories want people to take it by force. It is just an assumption, it makes sense just and humans would keep coming up with such assumptions till the end of time. That is what philosophy is all about. It is not science, they are not facts, they are just logical assumptions

Saturn444:
You are right. It is not prudent to teach a Primary One pupil about AI and Machine Learning.

I will hang around the thread for the next hour to ensure you do not teach people nonsense.

You are ignorant of atheism. You are making it a religion. God is the Avatar of the Programmer in a local simulation. It is just a title. God is not perfect. Universe is not perfect. We are not perfect.

oh god. You crack me up real good. Please do hang around papa

NNTR:
hahaha deal with you dia, loll.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

does not change the fact that while noah thought only him and his family were the only humans on earth, we had a thriving civilization in egypt and china. So much for the bible (word of god) a book of nothing but lies

Saturn444:
Which aspect of your Atheism is NOT assumption.

I simply ask you if your absense of God means absence of a higher civilization managing the automation of sun on its orbit,. Moon on its orbit, automation of photosynthesis, management of Schumann frequency, simulation of dreams, intuition and your thoughts. Those are not assumptions boy

I have answered you papa. I am not interested

Saturn444:
You are good at laughing but not really good at answering basic questions about what regulated your thoughts and keeps you breathing when you are asleep and which civilization is that technology based and which spectrum frequency domain the tech Admins that regulates your consciousness are.

Your brain has not evolved to the level of this understanding so do not create threads if you are still ignorant of the messages you are proselytizing my boy

I just read the part where you said my brain has not evolved to the level of pandering this sort of theories. The truth I am not interested. I would be interested. As I have said before we can keep coming up with theories that are logical, reasonable, but have no place in beneficial understanding of our existence.

A001:
Hmmm. I agree with many things you say in theory, but I'm not convinced yet until I find more reasons or proofs they've been substantiated.

reason why I dont give theories like this any attention is because it is frankly very easy to speculate a million things, why dont we put our efforts on the ones we can substantiate.

Saturn444:
You are good at laughing but not really good at answering basic questions about what regulated your thoughts and keeps you breathing when you are asleep and which civilization is that technology based and which spectrum frequency domain the tech Admins that regulates your consciousness are.

Your brain has not evolved to the level of this understanding so do not create threads if you are still ignorant of the messages you are proselytizing my boy

yes I am good at laughing and not answering questions that are based on imaginative philosophies

NNTR:
Strawmanning and resorting to ad hominem as usual

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

hahaha.

Saturn444:
HardMirror, could God be just an English word ascribed to the Avatar of Simulation Programmer in different mind control programs called Religions?

Which means Programmer is known as God of the religious due to their low bandwidth?

Hmmnnn that's a hard thought

not interested in assumptions. If I dont reply you, no vex, I have been down this path and the lesson I learnt is yo focus on things we can substantiate and not waste time discussing assumptions and imaginations because we could assume a billion things. It is excitingly Pointless

Saturn444:
Humanity is a designed civilization evolved through cross breeding with lower mammals and iinterbreedkng of humanoid races hybriding with off planet extra terrestrial ancestors of ours. This is not the rabbit hole, the hole is actually near for you.

this got me laughing. Some other elaborate no evidence theory.

Saturn444:
Fine.

Let me ask you another question.

Do you believe there is a technology beyond your level of understanding that automates your heartbeat and breathing rythmns.

Do you know the source of your thoughts and the technology behind thoughts simulation?

Note, I am not Religious and I know that Christianity and Islam are mind control programs of Homo Capensis agencies within the simulation so have that in mind when answering these questions cos I am about to point you to a great mystery that you are qualified for.

I dont believe in such

They need money

Saturn444:
Sir,

My question is directed at you, not Atheism as a religion. So Sir, do you believe there is a higher civilization that ensures that the sun stays in its automated orbit and that the Schumann frequency of the planet is maintained and that the climate is conducive to man as a collective?

Remember this is your thread and I am your student

I dont.

efficiencie:
Dude don't deceive yourself. The bible did not offer dates and the dates in the website you quoted are estimates. In the website you quoted they said this:

We qualify these dates with words like “about” because of small unknowns. For example, we don’t know whether or not the Genesis 11 begetting years include time in the womb. But uncertainties keep shrinking. Confidence grows in the Bible’s time stamps. Serious scholars are now closer than ever to using just the Bible to pinpoint ages of ancient events like the Flood.

That uncertainties are shrinking does not say anything because we don't have an idea of the extent of this shrinkage and how close we are to the actual dates from a black box. The write also said this:

Add the 1,656 years from Genesis 5 to that and we get nearly 4128 B.C. for Earth’s birthday, based on the Masoretic text of the Old Testament.

Which provides an unlikely "Earth's birthday" because according to the scriptures: "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." (Genesis 1:1) makes it difficult to accurate estimate the Earth's birthday based on the prophecy of Moses because we do not have any dateable events before the creation of the Earth, we cannot correctly estimate how much time in years elapsed between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 3:24 and we cannot tell if the events between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 6 are strictly chronological. Moses could have written his visions without strict recourse to the chronological ordering of events just like John who wrote the visions of the book of Revelation. Hence the 4128 BC number for the birth day of the earth is completely unreliable and I don't have to be a theologian to know so. So dude unless you want to read into the Bible what is not there you should understand that your estimate of the flood year 4722 BC is contestable and would always be an estimate with a little understanding of the deviation of this date from the exact date.

anyhow you want to look at it. There is no where in history that such a flood happened. People have always existed in different places around the world all through the period the flood should have occurred. If you knew basic mathematics and you actually read your bible you would have known that you can calculate the approximate time the flood should have happened. If you like add 1000 years to the result, if you like subtract 1000 years to the result, adjust the result any how you like it so that it can favour the bible, it still wont solve the problem of all these kingdoms that were flourishing at a time the whole world should have been wiped out. Go and get some education and stop disgracing your self here

Saturn444:
HardMirror,


Do atheists believe that Earth humans are the top of the evolution tree of consciousness or there Is a higher tier of civilization running the simulation we call Earth?

Don't be scared, the answer won't make you theist, will just wake you up to another level

I am not scared. It is a question that has nothing to do with atheism. I can be an atheist and believe we are the top specie. Some others can believe there could be aliens that are more advanced etc. It is not a wow question as you presume

oteneaaron:
This should be The Nail on the coffin!

If only people would do the research and find out the TRUTH about our history as humankind.

But OP, there is another school of thought that refutes the saying that it was Khufu who built the Great Pyramid of Giza.

According to some older records, Tehuti or Thoth the god of wisdom was the real builder of the pyramid of Giza.

To aid in your research read the Emerald Tablets of Thoth.

well. Even with that, the chinese also had their dynasties within this period with records, same with the Persians and other civilizations around the Mediterranean where did these civilizations come from when only 8 people survived the flood according to the bible. See the dynasties of the chinese

khiaa:
Since you can't have a conversation without being disrespectful, we're done. The flipping of the finger was unnecessary.

you will NEVER EVER see me begging for respect or being concerned about respect. People who are very sensitive to respect are people who cannot earn respect but want it to be given to them automatically.

khiaa:
Since you can't have a conversation without being disrespectful, we're done. The flipping of the finger was unnecessary.

I have no apologies for people selling lies