highchief1: the whole Nigeria is a slum.but that’s not the issue.how did I lie,earn high and spend high or earn low and spend low.u may never understand me.only God knows how old you are.Are my the one that said a few months ago that people in Nigeria are selling their houses to go abroad while people abroad are working hard to build in Nigeria.did u see the trend few months ago.I don’t have ur power go and enjoy ur Sunday pls.
close your mouth you have nothing else to say. which celebrity will leave expensive lekki to go buy house in sokoto where things are cheaper. so a person earning 15k per month is better than someone earning 1 million because hes spending less?. you deserve through beatings
emmaodet: You still don't get it. It is relative. I can keep dividing it till it gets smaller then maybe you will get the big picture. While it is true that only a fraction of Nigerians can get a 3m per month job, then let's go further down. A man earning $1000 in Nigeria is better than $3000 in Toronto. Still very hard to get a $1000 job in Nigeria. A man earning $500 in Nigeria is better than a man earning $1500 in Toronto. Now, $500 job is not uncommon in Nigeria in some sectors. Let's go further down. A man earning $250 in Nigeria roughly 400k will live a better life than a man earning $750 in Toronto. Infact from $1,500 downward in Toronto, you live will start becoming miserable but you can't say the equivalent in Nigeria.
mtcheew see this one. who earns $750 in toronto even beggers earn above that. you're comparing bank manager salary to a less than beggers salary. a city where teachers in toronto easily pocket $5k plus other employement benefits.
How about him earning the ''5 million'' there and spending ''4.8 million'' on bills monthly??
i dont get your logic. is money earned to be kept or be spent. this is the average or even low income we're talking about, if you earn 80k in nigeria will anything remain by month end. lol
highchief1: for duplex or normal 3 bedroom.cos I have plenty guys der.ok lets assume ur two months rent pays one year rent is it funny?ur statement is full of insults.is mine full of insults?or is it the weed u smoke or I heard most Nigerians are now mad because of the economy.you could correct me or drop ur own facts without insults.Dont reply me again.you were not properly raised.
you deserve insults cos you're lying outrightly. ive seen your type plenty here. you guys just make things up to decieve people. why lie in the first place that huge.
and if you're paying 1 year rent in 2 months but you earn 7 million monthy averagely. lekki is a slum compared to toronto dont fool people here.
Basic: He didn't even add that a month's rent over there can be more than a professional's 1-year rent here.
the more you earn the more rent you pay. this is grade 5 economics. you cant be earning 1 million per month and be looking for a 50k slum to live in. seriiously some of you need to go back to school.
PHIPEX: People easily compare income in UK vs Nigeria without comparing expenses. What's the essence of earning so high when your expenditure is also so high and at the end of the day you have almost no savings?
The West from.time to time throw banana to Africans, attract our professionals to come and do their menial jobs. Once they get what they want they close the door. 10 years after, they open another window and the cycle continues. Modern day slavery
yeah earning high and spending high is far better than earning low and spending low. if not why are people in lagos not moving to sokoto, is sokoto not cheap
tshtsh: In my opinion, earning $2000 a month in lagos will offer a better quality life than $6000 in toronto. As for cities like Dar es salaam, nairobi and johannesburg the quality of life is much better than in all these western countries provided you are stable
where will you see 3million + job in nigeria. give me link ill apply lol.
highchief1: I didn’t want to comment.they tell u what they earn,they don’t tell u what they spend .my rent in Toronto is 2.3m naira monthly for a room and palor.that money can pay for a 3 bedroom yearly rent in lekki.that money in 12 months can buy someone a 3 bedroom modest bungalow.my prayer is for everyone to go to this abroad and see things for themselves.
liar 2.3 million cant pay for a 3 bedroom house in lekki even in one year, average rent per year is 5 million. you guys keep fooling the gullible and unfortunately many will believe. nonsense
franchasofficia: My point is, acquiring a family residential house abroad via mortgage is not something any sensible person should broadcast or brag about. And if you must tell such story, please be honest enough to say it as it is that "you just acquired a mortgage house" so that Nigerians in Nigeria will not be deceived into thinking that Bose, Emeka, Tijani, Nnamdi have acquired a 100% purchased house in US or UK just as it's done in Nigeria, before they go and commit suicide out of envy not knowing that Emeka ati Tijani has mortgaged his income for the next 25 years or something
And my final point is meant for married Nigerian men abroad. Don't acquire a mortgaged home abroad except you have invested well in Nigeris, e get why
you sound like someone who is jealous or full of hate. are you saying it's impossible for a nigerian couple to fully own a house in uk so only in nigeria they can own a house?
i guess you're the one who wants to commit suicide of envy, you'e fooled yourself into thinking people go abroad to suffer. hehe, you can go ahead and kill yourself no one is stopping you.
franchasofficia: Most of you guys are misinterpreting and misunderstanding people's criticisms of this story which most Nigerians love to tell without details just to make people feel that they are now big.
Yes they are better now paying mortgage than paying rent, but they should not make it look like they now own a house in the UK 100% when it's actually a mortgage house.
Say it as it is:
We have got our mortgage house after 3 years in UK or US or Canada and nobody will question or criticize you, but coming out with the bragging title: "we now own a house" when it's actually a mortgage house is deceit.
A lot of Nigerians (business owners mostly) can afford to buy outrightly, a detached or semi detached duplex in the UK, US, Canada or any other western country if not for certain factors.
Mortgage houses favor married women abroad than men, so any Nigerian married man abroad hurrying to get a mortgage house when he hasn't acquired enough properties and investments in Nigeria and in other African countries is nothing but a fool that will leave to regret it sooner or later. Only married Nigerian ladies abroad celebrate mortgage house, real Nigerian married men abroad don't celebrate such feat unless they have invested enough back home, it's not a wise decision for a married Nigerian man to do, unless your wife is working and ready to contribute 50% or more for the mortgage.
Houses are costlier in highbrow areas in Nigeria than it is in US, UK, Canada, etc.
The money used to buy just 1 plot of land in Lekki phase 1 will buy a semi detached duplex in Houston, Birmingham, Dallas, Atlanta, Halifax, etc.
The money used to buy a plot of land in Ikoyi or Banana Island will buy a celebrity mansion in most US, UK, etc cities.
Many Nigerian business owners are richer and financially better (without stress) than most Nigerians abroad, but the issue in Nigeria is the recent level of insecurity and inflation brought upon Nigerians by useless Buhari government and continued by Tinubu's stolen regime
If not for insecurity, nothing would have made me to live outside Nigeria permanently, unless they will make me President of that foreign country
If not for insecurity and high inflation in Nigeria now, anybody that owns his own successful business in Nigeria is far better off living in Nigeria than migrating abroad to do 5/9.
Imagine if $1 = NGN250, and £1 = NGN310, tell me why someone that makes a profit of between NGN700,000 to NGN2,500,000 monthly should relocate abroad? Talk more of those that make above 2.5million monthly after expenses without stress or worries?
In as much as I encourage young Nigerians of today to relocate abroad if they see an opportunity to leave legally, let's not make it seem like those back home are in horrible state when in reality, most in Nigeria are doing far better than those abroad legitimately.
Na insecurity and Naira depreciation by useless APC led governments since 2015 destroyed Nigeria and made it hopeless
nah whats the point youre trying to drive. you're just using if this, if that. while you're even living abroad.
Fela was singing all those stuff because he was imagining them in his head, abi?
Look at Lagos today - BRT, air conditioned trains, Uber, even market women with Iphone.
How many people had telephones (landline) back then?
Only the creme de la creme of society!
So if you wanted to see a business partner on the Island, you will ENTER MOLUE with heavy go-slow of 3 hrs before you reach Island, and when you reach your guy's office, they will tell you he has travelled!
Back to Molue for return journey to mainland. Whole day wasted.
Does that happen today? NO.
You will call to confirm. Simple thing.
And before you credit 'technology', remember that in developed countries, EVERYBODY had a landline telephone back then.
But in Nigeria, only the very rich had it.
So no communication, except you move around by DANFO or MOLUE.
If you find sitting space, you're a lucky man (49 sitting 99 standing, apologies Fela)
you're defintely an arrogant and ignorant kid. which one is travel to see a bsiness partner? just send letters to him or her. people used to send letters that has been replaced by calls and sms. that is nothing special. those who lived in both times are telling you so and you're saying it's a lie when you've only lived in this era how can you know how things were.? children on these days are just too rude.
Fela was singing all those stuff because he was imagining them in his head, abi?
Look at Lagos today - BRT, air conditioned trains, Uber, even market women with Iphone.
How many people had telephones (landline) back then?
Only the creme de la creme of society!
So if you wanted to see a business partner on the Island, you will ENTER MOLUE with heavy go-slow of 3 hrs before you reach Island, and when you reach your guy's office, they will tell you he has travelled!
Back to Molue for return journey to mainland. Whole day wasted.
Does that happen today? NO.
You will call to confirm. Simple thing.
And before you credit 'technology', remember that in developed countries, EVERYBODY had a landline telephone back then.
But in Nigeria, only the very rich had it.
So no communication, except you move around by DANFO or MOLUE.
If you find sitting space, you're a lucky man (49 sitting 99 standing, apologies Fela)
lol tech is the most cheapest thing today. you can buy a chinko techno iphone for 20k. nothing special. in the 80s it was expensive because it was new and it was very heavy. a landline was as expensive as iphone 15. tech is so cheap now.
jazzman7711: Anywhere you go in the world, the old folks will tell you the same thing. That things were 'much better' in their time.
It's just nostalgia, and human nature. It's an illusion.
Most young Nigerians today if sent back to the 1980s, could not cope.
Back then I remember meat was so expensive.
We only had one or two small pieces of meat per plate, and we were middle class o!
So I don't know how the poor coped.
Today, guys buy plates of food with ''assorted meat''. Or 2 big chunks of meat/pomo etc that would cover the whole plate!
Nothing like that in those days bro. Na one or two small meat, unless you be rich man.
Even rice was a special thing you ate only on Sunday.
Abeg forget mehn...
you werent middle class. your parents were poor. speak the truth, what was their income and how much was rice and meat. you're just saying nonsense. and how many people today can afford rice and meat on a steady. . yo're speaking like a village illitrate and generalizing rubbish
inoki247: Lol doz years how many people make am....
Cement was so cheap and people are still building mud house and Face me and Face u house ...
Now things are cost buh people can still afford dem you will hardly see someone with face me and face you plan this days everybody that can afford cement wants to build flat or mansion...
If dem tell most of you always doing this comparison to go back in time to doz Years you won't spend a week before you run back to this present year....
you sound so foolish and childish. how can you say everyone was building face me and faceyou in the 1980s when you were born in th 2000s. my friend go back and read your books. you're still a kid
2. Council Tax - Let's make it expensive at Band D £90/month
3. Electricity/Gas/water. again, let's be generous £200/month
4. Feeding for say a single guy or babe living on their own £200/month
5. Flenjure - Goes out once a week @ £50/outing £200/month
6. Transport £60
7. Total £1,525
So, he or she still has £475/month to save every month x N1,603 as at today's rate = N761,425. But you that is earning N200K you are better off than him or her in Birmingham? Ogaa oo! After paying all his bills and spending money on "flenjure", he still has near four times of that your total N200K a month. We will not even bother trying to talk about the slaves you acquire as driver and or house maid. We do not pay people as slaves and or treat them as slaves over here. So, we are happy for you guys to continue with your slavery business. Someone here wrote that he pays his house help(sorry , slave) N4K/month and he said with his full chest. Mtchew
But the greatest fallacy in Onyema's desperate, bare faced lie is that he has made Nigerians out to be low level unskilled workers struggling in the UK. I don't know about those who have been arriving these past couple of years to do care work, but I personally know many Nigerians who are real big boys in this country and this city of London. Boys and girls who are professionals in various fields going home with £10K after tax every month. But let's be kind and make it just £8K after tax every month. That means his or her savings every month is at least £6K X N1,603 = N9,618,000, while you with your N200K a month is better?
Ok. Let's make it that he or she makes only £4k a month after tax and spends even say £2K a month on the expenses listed above. It is still £2K X N1,603 = in fact, let me leave you to do the arithmetic and comparison.
Onyema can lie from Saudi Arabia to Australia for all he wants, just because he knows that all the man in Aso Rock need do is send him on a trip to the USA and he will not be seen or heard from again for thirty or more years while he pays his debt to that society, in what we here call "at His Majesty's Pleasure". But there is one simple truth : a society that has cannibalised every single indicea for human living, from education, to how we relate with one another, to infrastructure, to the well being of children, to the protection of women etal, is a doomed society. There is no remedy for such a society where corruption is the most dominant component in its economic model, if not the only component.
Finally, those who say that education is scam, are those who have resigned themselves to failure. We are here and balling because of education. It wasn't the very best of education given that you cannot give what you do not have, as we all experienced in Naija universities. But when you are determined and you read beyond your near illiterate lecturer with a PhD, and you remain focused and know the time to work hard and the time to "flenjure" hard too, you will ultimately succeed. But first, you must define what true success means.
Tip: success has nothing to do with money. Money as a barometer for success is only what greedy people put in their own minds.
they don't understand all these. They still have slavery mentality.
Geovanni412: Your knowledge of the Nigerian situation is too poor
How many Nigerians are sure of their next meal?
There are over 71 million Nigerians in poverty
These people are not sure of their next meal, so what business do they have with a bag of rice?
Their business is with one or half cup of rice.
The fact that you are living well does not mean that many Nigerians are.
lol so you're saying a family of 4 will feed on one cup of rice per day.? do you know one cup is equivalent to one plate. A normal adult can finish 2 plate at a go. That's equivalent to 2 cups.
But using bag of rice as a metric is a poor measure
It would be better to use a cup of rice
Use a unit that people consume per day and not sth that stretches out over months.
.Many people in Nigeria have never bought a bag of rice in their lifetime..make we dey tell ourselves the truth
lol I see your brain is too small to comprehend facts. So let me break it down simple. a family of four needs about 6-7 cups per day on average. 3 cups is nothing.
1 bag is only 288 cups. Now do the maths 288/6= 48 days.
Angelfrost: All it takes is one kidnap case, and one's entire life savings end in ransom payment.
See, money isn't the only or main motivation for people to Japa.
Many leave for better quality of life, change of environment, and better future for their kids.
The problem with many of you Anti-Japa activists is that y'all think money is everything!
Many people who left the country would never have left if security and healthcare didn't continue to deteriorate with the corrupt clowns you people keep electing.
That's why the people who suffer and complain the most after relocating are the same money-minded dolts who care for nothing but making money at all costs... That's why they get disappointed out there.
Most of you Nigerians worship money so much... It's just sad!
Same reason many of you complain bitterly about taxation in developed nations... Because, y'all will rather earn a lot, evade taxes, and show off or pepper your fellow citizens: The Nigerian Dream! SMH!!!
youve said it all. if there was no bills to pay, mouth to feed, house rent to pay, and all that, please who will still be working... abeg who doesnt pay bills in this world. if they want a place with no bills they should to the forest. there is free shelter, (trees), food (rats) and sunlight/moonlight. you see nothing good comes easy in this world. not even in nature... lol
yes its very true. most people that are depressed come from rich homes. poor people are more social and come out more in the sun. if you doubt me, go to rich neighborhoods and the slums and see for yourself. Sun is a mood booster.. most developed countries dont even see sun for months.
justmondris: You are wrong Nigerians are mentally strong and motivated and they always have hope for a brighter future inrespective of their current situation.Tell me say even u nor believe say one day u go make your family proud.
brighter future. lol! have you heard of the saying that poor people on the street are more happier than people living in mansions?
Godsonkemz: I told someone that living in Nigeria is better than living in UK because of high cost of rent and tax so long as you are working here in Nigeria. The only advantage is the availability of jobs.
In Nigeria you can own houses and fleet of cars but in UK it's not like that as you'd be questioned to explain how you make your wealth and if it's discovered that you've been evading tax, you're finished.
UK would turn a generous man to a stingy man in a space of time because UK mentality believes that nothing is free.
My godfather, a medical gynaecologist is an example.
Max24: All that you wrote up there are mis-information.
Federal/National minimum wage/month
US - $1,218 Canada - $2,070
Ireland - $2,695 Belgium - $2,171 UK - $2,223 China - $364 India - $45 Note : India and China with highest population has lower than Europe countries. Hong Kong - $860
*Luxembourg has the highest minimum wage in the world - $3,357 ( population - 659 311) not up to 1m people.*
bro all this things you're mentioning are not needed. they say nigeria earns $76 as minimum wage, i just close the site. there is no correlation between population and minimum wage.
all those with more population than us all have better minimum wage, lower unemployment rates and lastly higher standard of living.
poverty leads to overpopulation not the other way round. or are you saying that those with high mimum wage have low population and vice versa...?
gambia is only 2.5 million but earn low wages than south africa with 50 million. nigeria population skyrocketed in recent years. as the poverty grew so did the popluation. it grows at a rapid rate yearly. this isnt the same for some advanced countries.
Max24: I don't know why some of you reason like illiterates despite that you have internet by your side. By your logic a country with high population should have high minimum wage. Do China and India have the largest minimum wages ? No, small counties like Finland and Belgium has higher minimum wages than China and India. India has similar minimum wage as Nigeria, Belgium with the third highest minimum wage is not up to Lagos in population (11+m). Small countries like Belgium, Netherlands , Ireland's has higher minimum wages than US. So, get educated, a family with 2 children with likely live better than a family with 10children because of their lower liabilities. The highest poverty in Nigeria is in the north today because of their many almajiri children.
see you're the pure illiterate here, bringing family comparison. Obi Cubana has 5 kids so are you better than him with your 0 kids. ?
Google it, the Us have far more higher minimum wage than Finland, and Belgium and Netherlands.
And no India have far more minimum wage than Nigeria. Theirs is around $200. Nigeria is just $20.
All those with higher population all earn more. Let's not even talk of infrastructure
Claiming that the population causes low minimum wage is one of the stupidest thing ever. Somalia Is only 17 million but earn lowest minimum wage than nigeria. Georgia same thing with only 10 million.
Britishpea: And what’s the population of Ghana? The higher the population of a country the higher the criminalities, insecurities and high handed and high level political and economic saboteurs. 8 years is too much to make a powerful cartel to form, operate and have a well grounded formation. Let alone a country that’s raised criminals since 1999. It will take years for serious govt and it’s successors to clear the mess to a reasonable level.
Corruption thrives in Nigeria because of everyone, no exclusion. People that we trust so much even got to positions and still misbehave.
People trusted Adeleke of Osun so much. What’s he doing in that state today?
Even the one that’s doing well while there will be bastardized, talked down at and still not being given his flowers. I remember how much people abused Obj,Gej and Yaradua.
Anyone who knows how and the reasons each government was toppled during military era will understand what politics and citizens are.
Nigeria needs tested leaders like Mimiko of Ondo.
People want Nigeria to be like America but an average individual don’t think like an American. Is it not an individual that will find himself or herself in the position of power?
so why other countries with larger population dont suffer the things you mention anywhere close to Nigeria. i dont know what you have to defend that....?
Travel › Re: What’s Happening To The Japa Wave In Nigeria?? by headboyprince(m): 6:19am On May 01, 2024
this is the average or even low income we're talking about, if you earn 80k in nigeria will anything remain by month end. lol
