₦airaland Forum

adedayourt:
Your vast population without an equivalent productivity should be a reason Nigeria should be buried in shame.
You have the population
you have the resources
you have the land mass

yet all of these cannot amount to income

gross shame!

BluntCrazeMan:
Ok


Nigeria can now raise its petrol price to N2,300.

All these African Countries are still buying the cheaper petrol smuggled from Nigeria.
And it is a biigg pity.

Max24:
Do those countries have the same people to feed as Nigeria? Are our population comparable? In some cases we are 10 times more in population, so let's be fair in our criticism. Let's. be constructive .

Themanleshey:
Look at you , always looking for excuse to put your country in poverty !

Una sha wan deh enjoy everything free .

School fee cheapest
Fuel subsidy
Forex subsidy
Eletricity subsidy


Everything cheap cheap , while govt can’t even pay 30k minimum wage .

Everything government , sotè una don wound the government

nairalanda1:
MInimum wage is exactly the same in many west african countries, like Nigeria.

MyVILLAGEpeople:



Wetin my eyes never see for this tulumbulation regime.

malali:
Free insurance?.....lmao
My friend nothing is free.
A lot of Americans travel abroad for dental work.
Go and read about copay and deductible.

malali:
A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE SHOUTING AND PREACHING THE JAPA PHENOMENON

1-Average cost of rent $2500

2-Phone, electricity, gas, water $500

3-Food Cooking and not eating out 1 person $700

4-Healthcare/Dental, medications,(if not yours budget for your children) $500

5-Transportation (whether you own a car or public transport to work, Car inspections, car registration, fuel, sudden repairs,) $1000

6-Childcare (If you have young children) it can cost up to $1500. Sometimes its cheaper for one spouse to stay at home and tend the kids.

Approx. 10k is needed for 1 grown adult. Thats 15k gross salary. That amounts to $180k/year(before tax is removed)....Some USA doctors do not make this much e.g Pediatricians in university hospitals

These are basics, anyone JAPA-ING without a desirable degree in America e.g, Tech certifications, Nursing, Medical. Will need an American degree to make over 50k a year.
50K a year means 30k after taxes, social security, insurance and retirement. To be able to just live alone, you will need 2 jobs. American jobs are designed to be hectic enough for 1 person/ 1 job in 24hours. If you work 2 jobs a day......Its at the expense of your health/social relationships/family time etc...There is a cost !!!
Even the Tech, nurses, medical will have to pass exams, these exams and preparations could cost $20k with no guarantee of passing.

So the hard part is how can you survive with $40-50k/ year with a basic living cost requiring at least $180k/ year. If you go to school hear, the loans are crippling at 7-8% interests for government loans and even up to 20% for private loans.
Even if you work 2 jobs, which means you leave your house (8am-4pm) (4pm-12am)....This will be at the expense of your health, lifespan, social health. Its not really humanely possible.

Even if you come with a spouse, one of you has to work 2 jobs at the very least, if not both of you. If you work through winter months doing double shifts, you can actually go 4 months without seeing the sun, which results in a lot of mental health issues in Africans, because we were not built for that, and the awareness is not emphasized.

Dont get me wrong its hard in Nigeria, but dont forget, you are coming to a place where their ancestors use to come and kidnap people in Africa for free Labour in the USA as slaves. These mentality has only being finessed over time. However it still exists. Do not be fooled by the few successful JAPA stories. I guarantee you for every one successful JAPA, there are a thousand living from Hand to mouth, paying only bills and taxes around the clock.

I have attached snippets of a reddit column of Americans complaining about the cost of living. Mind you these people went to schools here, so they are better treated and paid in the Labour market. You being a JAPA will be systematically paid less than them most times.

https://www.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQuestions/comments/18gg48z/hows_it_possible_people_in_the_us_are_making/

malali:


Have you heard the saying "There is no free lunch even in freetown."
In UK, the NHS has a long waiting list, if you need some services done you would have to wait 8 months, if you die before then, thats your problem. For the free healthcare.

In USA, if you dont have health insurance, you contribute $300/month your employer pays $300 total $600, you wont get free healthcare.
If you dont have a job, you will buy health insurance for $500/month and you pay every month wether you are sick or not.

Nigerians have a lot of misconception about everything free abroad. Dey Play.
The people that wanted free labour and came to africa to capture human beings as slave, you think they will be generous to be giving you good life for free.

Ogiame:
One naira is equivalent to 0.40 CFA.... Imagine the insult!!!! This was not the case throughout the administration of GEJ.

However, when you oppose Chief Bola Ahmed Tinubu's demonic and poverty-inflicted policies, his supporters will argue that Yooukay, Franzzzz, and Singapoor are also experiencing recession and difficulty.

malali:
You think quality of life abroad is so good......why are the rich and wealthy Nigerians not living where life has a better quality ?
Arthur Eze
Micheal Adenuga
Samad Rabiu
Otedola

Abi you get sense pass them.....Let them be deceiving you on social media.

Na you get sense pass the homeless people sleeping outside in the snow in Europe and America

malali:
Do you know what you have to do to earn a 100 DOLLARS ?

Healthcare: Go to the hospital in the dollar country, ordinary headache they will charge you $350 after insurance deductions and co-pay. In Nigeria, there is no hospital that will charge you $10. Some hospital visits abroad can cost you $50000. (Giving birth with C/S, 1 or 2 days of ICU). In Nigeria you wont spend $500.

Education: Come and study in dollar economy let them give you loan with 7% percent compund interests, you will work and die without finish paying for such loans. In Nigeria people study for free and "japa" Thats essentially free human capital, No country in the world allows there manpower to JAPA free of charge.

Public Transportation: Compare the airfares and bus fares, $500 tickets is europe or america if you buy last minute, is a cheap ticket. In naija you can walk into Abuja airport and fly to Lagos last minute, with $100.

Utilities: Electricity, power and water, Have you paid water bill, heating bill $800 before ? You are comparing dollar to naira ?

Telecommunications: Even Internet costs are comparable, phones services, standalone phone servces can cost up to $120 plus taxes for a month. Do you pay that much to sub your phone in a month ?

Certain Agricultural Products: Agricultural produce are cheaper in Nigeria, than any dollar economy. A big Mango can be $3-4, Have you ever bought 1 mango for 5000naira ? Meat is cheaper in Nigeria, food stuff even with the cry is still cheaper than abroad.

Would you rather earn $5000 and have to spend $4995 for bills and living.
Or earn 100,000 naira and spend 50000 naira for bills and living ?

Dennisochampa:
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No economy from 10 years ago have remained the same since then.....

If you can point out one thing that the price or cost have remained the same in the UK, USA, Switzerland or Canada for the past 10 years... I'll gift you 1m ASAP...

The problem with alot of us is that we are still living in the past.....

There are alot of factors responsible for the transformation over the past 10 years...

I know things are inflated in 9ja but what I don't understand is your question of whether things can go back to the way they were......

Can you go back to the way you were 10 years ago??

Here in the UK, a bag of 20kg cement sells for between 10 pounds to 18 pounds.... Convert that to naira..... Not all that glitters is gold.... Things can never go back to the way they were in 9ja.... We can only hope and pray for improvements

Dundalk:
1992 is ordinary

jubrilELsudan:
HOW MANY PEOPLE COULD EVEN AFFORD THAT TIME TO BUY THAT BAG OF CEMENT FOR 70 NAIRA?

THAT TIME A BRAND NEW MERCEDES BENZ 123 FROM LEVENTIS COST AROUND 15,000 NAIRA......HOW MANY NIGERIANS COULD AFFORD TO BUY IT?

IF THINGS WERE REALLY CHEAP BACK IN THE DAY....THEN WHY DIDN'T OUR GRAND PARENTS AND ANCESTORS BUILD HOUSES EVERYWHERE?

IF TO BUILD HOUSE WAS CHEAP THOSE DAYS THEN WHY DO WE HAVE EMPTY PLOTS OF FAMILY LANDS IN THE VILLAGE THAT HAVE TURNED INTO FOREST?

IN THE LATE 70'S EARLY 80'S....TO GO TO MY VILLAGE IN THE MIDDLE BELT AREA BY BUS WAS 10 NAIRA......HOW MANY PEOPLE COULD AFFORD TO PAY THAT 10 NAIRA?

BACK IN THE 80'S....HAVING 1 NAIRA IS LIKE HAVING 10,000 NAIRA TODAY

BACK IN THE DAY WITH 1 NAIRA YOU WILL FVCK ALL THE ASHAWOS IN THE ASHY JOINT AND THEY WILL STILL CALL YOU YES SIR

Suicideboy:
Because I earn in euros and hodl crypto for a living

Watianoengineer:
Those shouting Peter Obi up and down as if he has magic wand what would Obi had done differently? Peter Obi that failed in Anambra is who they are comparing with a man that set the template for modern Lagos. Even if the price of cement is 50k, we will continue to pray for and support the renewed hope agenda of President Tinubu

BluelightHotel:
ISP are seriously ripping Nigerians off tbh,over here with Lyca mobile €15 per month for unlimited data,calls and texts.

Africans are really suffering and are being taken advantage of by everyone.

ibadanchap:
I've read the comments by people following this post, and to be honest, comparing Nigeria and Canada data plans is like comparing oranges to apples and it's not so fair.

For instance, the 1 GB is data at full speed, and goes down to 250kbps when you exhaust that limit, rather than drop to nothing. Also, unlike in Nigeria where everyone is on Whatsapp, we mainly use the regular voice and sms for communicating here. In fact, many Canadians don't even have Whatsapp on their phone. You call businesses, offices etc using the regular phone number and I even know some old folks who only have a landline, so unlimited voice and data is actually a thing here and very relevant.

In addition, most of us have stable unlimited Internet via cable at home, so you don't need to use your mobile data at home. For example, I have unlimited Internet at 1.5Gbps download and we typical use about 4 TB monthly since we stream all entertainment online and I also host Plex server at home that I share with friends to stream from. Coffee shops, malls and some stores also have free wifi you can use in a pinch.

Whether you think the $19 plan is expensive or not in Canada may also depend where you are in you Canada journey. I remember when I first came to Canada over a decade ago, I literarily convert anything I wanted to buy to Naira in my head and compared it to Naija price, but now I only compare the price to my budget and pocket.

For sure, compared to our southern neighbours (USA) , mobile data is more expensive in Canada, but I think we still have better, stable, reliable and comparably cheaper (when compared by minimum wages in both countries) Internet than Nigeria

Bluearrow:
Who said 1gb for $19 is false??
Go get your brain checked bro, your mental state is messed up already!
Your colour of maddness is critical!
The thread was never anything about Canada or Nigeria, but about data! Your f00lish sef quoted me & started comparing Nigeria to Canada? Who does that? Even an infant knows Canada is better than Nigeria, but your insistence on parading a $19 for a 1gb data as cheap bespeaks u have serious mental issues! Do they pluck money from trees in Canada? Because it is Canada we shouldn't say the truth? Even when there are better working conditions in places data are sold for €15 with your Almighty unlimited calls & texts Animal!

ibadanchap:
I've read the comments by people following this post, and to be honest, comparing Nigeria and Canada data plans is like comparing oranges to apples and it's not so fair.

For instance, the 1 GB is data at full speed, and goes down to 250kbps when you exhaust that limit, rather than drop to nothing. Also, unlike in Nigeria where everyone is on Whatsapp, we mainly use the regular voice and sms for communicating here. In fact, many Canadians don't even have Whatsapp on their phone. You call businesses, offices etc using the regular phone number and I even know some old folks who only have a landline, so unlimited voice and data is actually a thing here and very relevant.

In addition, most of us have stable unlimited Internet via cable at home, so you don't need to use your mobile data at home. For example, I have unlimited Internet at 1.5Gbps download and we typical use about 4 TB monthly since we stream all entertainment online and I also host Plex server at home that I share with friends to stream from. Coffee shops, malls and some stores also have free wifi you can use in a pinch.

Whether you think the $19 plan is expensive or not in Canada may also depend where you are in you Canada journey. I remember when I first came to Canada over a decade ago, I literarily convert anything I wanted to buy to Naira in my head and compared it to Naija price, but now I only compare the price to my budget and pocket.

For sure, compared to our southern neighbours (USA) , mobile data is more expensive in Canada, but I think we still have better, stable, reliable and comparably cheaper (when compared by minimum wages in both countries) Internet than Nigeria

ibadanchap:
I've read the comments by people following this post, and to be honest, comparing Nigeria and Canada data plans is like comparing oranges to apples and it's not so fair.

For instance, the 1 GB is data at full speed, and goes down to 250kbps when you exhaust that limit, rather than drop to nothing. Also, unlike in Nigeria where everyone is on Whatsapp, we mainly use the regular voice and sms for communicating here. In fact, many Canadians don't even have Whatsapp on their phone. You call businesses, offices etc using the regular phone number and I even know some old folks who only have a landline, so unlimited voice and data is actually a thing here and very relevant.

In addition, most of us have stable unlimited Internet via cable at home, so you don't need to use your mobile data at home. For example, I have unlimited Internet at 1.5Gbps download and we typical use about 4 TB monthly since we stream all entertainment online and I also host Plex server at home that I share with friends to stream from. Coffee shops, malls and some stores also have free wifi you can use in a pinch.

Whether you think the $19 plan is expensive or not in Canada may also depend where you are in you Canada journey. I remember when I first came to Canada over a decade ago, I literarily convert anything I wanted to buy to Naira in my head and compared it to Naija price, but now I only compare the price to my budget and pocket.

For sure, compared to our southern neighbours (USA) , mobile data is more expensive in Canada, but I think we still have better, stable, reliable and comparably cheaper (when compared by minimum wages in both countries) Internet than Nigeria

Wsx2:
Before you quote people note that it’s not only youths are are on this forum. Adults are also here on this forum. I have been visiting this website since 2004. I don’t know where you are then. This is the reality here. Their is no such thing called unlimited data, when you come here one day you will know how life is.

There are providers here charging 30dollars for 500mb . Everything is cheaper in Nigeria due to competition. To buy Houses here in Ontario now going for 1.7milllion dollars upwards and this is why your politicians always aspire to steal billions. They don’t need the billions in nigeria , they need it here because a billion can only buy just one house here.

Wsx2:
Before you quote people note that it’s not only youths are are on this forum. Adults are also here on this forum. I have been visiting this website since 2004. I don’t know where you are then. This is the reality here. Their is no such thing called unlimited data, when you come here one day you will know how life is.

There are providers here charging 30dollars for 500mb . Everything is cheaper in Nigeria due to competition. To buy Houses here in Ontario now going for 1.7milllion dollars upwards and this is why your politicians always aspire to steal billions. They don’t need the billions in nigeria , they need it here because a billion can only buy just one house here.

Wsx2:
This is what you gullible youths do all the time, what does sharing reality have to do with why don’t you come home. You youths never grow up

Bluearrow:
Cc headboyprince

See what someone is paying for unlimited data, calls & texts €15! But the moment u hear Canada, your brain stops working & u think paying $19 for only 1gb data is not expensive? You have mental issues!

Bluearrow:
Getting 1gb data for $19 is expensive!
We are not talking about other plans, but 1gb!
What will anyone be doing with unlimited calls & texts?? Only unlimited data is useful, unlimited calls & test is almost useless in this present world!

iampeterben:
Brother nor come here dey cap rubbish nothing like free browsing oh!

NwanyiOkpa:
$25 for 500MB here in NL

Wsx2:
You guys are lucky, this is what we pay for 1gb in canada, roughly N19500 in naira and the speed is as useless as something else only thing is it’s unlimited calls and text. Don’t know why canada is still very backward in technology because their is no competition only 2 companies feeding others.

Connected1:
Nawa.