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dostr4:
Ask them who should be creating chance btw jorginho or kante one is a cm the other a dm

We play two man midfield, one should be driver of the ball and also intercept while the other orchestrator and also shield the back three.

swiz123:
You spill bullshit, Real Madrid winning the UCL has very little to do with Casemiro. You guys' love for theoretical analysis is damaging.

And where did you see me mention Casemiro in my comments. You like to jump into things you don’t understand and spew trash.

swiz123:
That's because you don't.

Chelsea play 3 ATB simply because it is Tuchel's choice.

Which other clubs Tuchel made three at the back his main formation.

WhoDeyHause:
Chelsea's 1st verbal offer of €14m (£11.8m) for Aubameyang has been turned down by Barcelona, who will only accept above €20m (£16.9m)...

~ @albert_roge

Barca and their initial gra gra. I remember when I suggested we go for Aubameyang instead of Lukaku since we were unable to get Halaand, who say make I talk am here, now we are going for same player at old age. Well, let’s hope he turn out to be useful and good like Giroud.

WhoDeyHause:
Rice can even play as a defender when we have injury or covid problem if it is still around. That should be our major target next year. A strong dm will make us go back to a back four and bring more productive work from the other two midfielders. He is not very fast but he will cover it with his defending.

Rice is good, he has this Henderson characteristics in him which i like. I’ve realized we don’t need to pass too much in midfield to win games and Rice can anchor that DM properly with his tackles and drive.

Ibime:
The fact Pep achieved his career high level of consistency using a robust DM like Fernandinho should give proponents of "you don't need robust DM" food for thought.

Peps most inconsistent spell was as manager of Bayern using Alonso as DM, and was characterised by several disgraces with cricket scorelines in the tough matches. Like you say, he suffered from thin DM in UCL, the Alonso years being the most prominent of those.

At Barca, Pep still called on a great DM/CM in Seydou Keita whenever things got physical and he still had Toure in the first year, had the best possession midfielder of all time in Xavi and teams were worried about Messi so much, they dared not cross the halfway line

Leave them to be thinking Chelsea should build a midfield of fairies without taking these facts into cognisance.

You actually watch football and do proper eye test while watching with this your observation and submission. Kudos.

dostr4:
Sorry but , are you okay , wishing casemiro on chels

Did makelele not come to us then. Casemiro might want new challenge, but getting rice is fine too since we are an English club in epl.

Ibime:
Whether fat or muscle, it would be difficult to maintain sprinting up that line and sprinting back in time throughout his career

True though, I understand what you are saying.

WhoDeyHause:
Rice is younger and understands our league more. I don't think real Madrid will even allow him to go.

Then Rice it should be.

Ibime:
There is only obsession with a Pep brand of football which if it fails (as it always does if the manager is not Pep) leads to complete breakdown of team structure.

Statistics will favour my school of thought given that robust DMs always win except for Pep teams. It's the most rational approach to team building, rather than building in weaknesses from the start.

Even pep have suffered from thin DM mostly in ucl, there is a reason he has two ucl from messi team only. I like Madrid style of football, an open play football but players are doing their role properly.

Ibime:
It's not a dig, it's a room for improvement. I've always been a James fan and was one of the main ones calling for him to be our first choice RB just from his Wigan loan spell. But he must improve his conditioning to be able to make recovery runs. Big muscles tire quicker on sprints.

It could just be that his body will always be too big, looking at his father and sister, and there is only so much you can work against nature, meaning he may have to convert to CB at some point in his career. At that position, he will still be very adept.

Or probably turn into Kyle walker of man city. I think James has fat while walker muscle.

dostr4:
Sorry when last did a robust dm win the league,
Even you and I know they are scarce atm. The mentioned players were conte players bar our academy boys. Even fabiniho cant win the league back 2 back

We should go all out for Casemiro next season instead of rice.

Ibime:
They are chasing CB all over the place, and we always had CBs in Rudiger, Tomori, Chris. The outstanding issue for not playing back 4 was always lack of robust DM, a very slow LB (Alonso) and at-times, James inability to make recovery runs due to his big size.

This bros know ball.

They should forget De jong in this window, sign Aubameyang and Fofana.

dostr4:
Lets leave Dm first with the current defenders can we successfully play a back 4

If we sign Fofana we can play back 4. James Koulibaly fofana cucurella will do well in a back 4

NinjaXmetahuman:
so people should be talking about players they feel it's not doing well. not formation.

Like one formation is the magic key to winning all the trophies while other teams cheer.


Jorhinho has his weaknesses, but he is definitely not the only problem in the that mid field.. and Chelsea donot have the worst mid field in the league. Infact we have one of the best mid field in the league. Our problem has always been the attack.

We dominated over 85% of the teams we played against last season.. only man city completely anihalated us. And it doesn't matter the formation we played, man city just had superior team.

Get good attackers who can actually take on players, not lose sitters or play like a worm and see difference.

You are right about the attack and also I know that our midfield are not the worse in the league, we have one of the best midfield in the league but I am just saying if we want more improvement we have to get quality players in those three position.

lordfalcao:
who is the robust DM that psg is using?

Psg is playing in a league they are dominating and also they signed Vintiha who is strong and technical this season to partner Verrati. This is the reason they able to play 3 atb this season.

Singapore1:
PSG are officially using back 3 this season

I wanted to say this before seeing your post. They are making it look like 3 atb formation is the problem when it is the personnel. You want to play two midfielders but one look weak and thin, the other one will be over labored na.

NinjaXmetahuman:
I tire o. I sometimes wonder if playing 433 would mean we get extra player on the pitch or something.

Why is no one asking guardiola to play back 3 to see if he can win champions league like we did.
They have been playing back 4 forever and still no ucl. Psg nko? May be a back 3 won't make them bottle ucl every year from a comfortable position.

I expect people to be obsessed with result not how 11 overpaid players are thrown on the pitch to run around.

Formation is not the problem but personnel which Tuchel is even trying by playing to their strength. Midfield is the heart of football so when it’s not working properly it affect the whole team playing structure which we are experiencing with Jorginho. Silver is covering a lot of things in the back that it take someone with eye test to appreciate him more, that guy reading of the game and ball playing ability is greatly helping our defense. We just need a solid DM, a replacement for Azpi and then a number 9 and the team will be ready to match man city and liverpool.

dostr4:
We expect creativity from a dm, including incesive passing and foward passes . With the fitness issues from the middle yet jorginho is ever present of the 3.
Let's be honest what do we demand from kante, he breaks up passing lanes.(check) , do we dominate the middle with him or do we see him drop thoes thru passes, abi all he does is make runs & cover more distances, abi we look like a counter attacking team.
If we have to slander jorginho, kante shouldn't be exempted after all he is a Cm , CMs brings stats in play .

With a solid DM Kante will be more fine to cause attacking threat. With Jorginho we have a liability when defending. Go watch Matic Kante pairing and see how well shaped the team was simply because we have a DM that did his job properly, I.e, to defend and protect the back three properly when been attacked and also to make quick forward passes when attacking. With Jorginho, we are easily closed down when with the ball because he can only give short side and back passes. During Conte season with us, when Matic win the ball you see him lunch the ball to Hazard or Pedro. Jorginho rarely win the ball, and when he do he goes to the ground for free kick so that he can rest, you rarely see him win the ball and make use of it like other strong and quality CDM. Kante is a box to box player.

It’s not a coincidence cr7 came Man U went to default settings. He caused the first goal yesterday.
I know you guys don’t see the disadvantage of playing cr7 due to how your club have fallen. You guys need level headed footballers like the way Arsenal and Arteta are building level headed players which brings synergy among the players.

FBS:
So you no see Odegaard and Partey running the show with incisive passes?
Liverpool have Salah and other wing forwards, they make things happen.
With Chelsea it's Jogginhoe and surely you don't expect passing backwards and sideways for strikers to score.
We need a "forward" thinking player.

They think it’s Tuchel fault that our strikers are not scoring when it is obvious it is Jorginho. Until we change Jorginho, even if you bring Benzema to this team he will still struggle to score.

popizaino:
I am something, my team is the only self proclaimed big team that has lost two matches in this season alone but my problem is Chelsea and Messi..............what am i?

Trevor the GTA guy.

Kloppo:
PAYING FOR THE CORRUPT PRACTICES OF FERGIE,CURSED CLUB!!!

I told them they will turn the way of Leeds for the corrupt practice SAF did by using British players to buy the mind of referee and English FA. Same englsih players are now karma to the club.

You want to start play from back yet your goalkeeper has never play such football before. This is why pep changed goalkeeper twice n two seasons. De Gea is not a ball playing goalkeeper, he is the most overrated goalkeeper, he can only punch shot those year he was doing super man but lack in every other area of goalkeeping.

Jodera:
What formation did Lampard use in 2019/2020 and where was Mount deployed?

And what was the outcome that season.

andrewbaba44:
It seems you don’t know when to use the word disgrace

Person score penalty na disgrace him disgrace the opponent ? Lol

He won the penalty to score that goal, took the ball from middle into the box before being brought down.

Jodera:
Lol, so you'd be Very happy for Auba to be shunted to the wings for Havertz? Wow!!

E be like say you be low-key Havertz Stan sha

Mount can’t play wing in 433 formation, he is not great in midfield 3 either.

I am looking forward to 433 formation, mostly against top teams; Mendy, James Fofana Koulibaly Cucurella, De jong Kante Kovacic, Aubameyan Havertz Sterling.

subs; Mount, Chilwell, Azpi, kepa, Loftus cheek, Gallagher, silver, Pulisic, Zyech, Jorginho, Chalobah.

We can play 343 formation when needed and then Mount starts.

BlueAngel444:
even if he is part of the team doesn't mean he would play that position... Then again what Tuchel cannot do with Chelsea line up?
FDJ can pair with Kante or Kovacic when
Jorginho moves to Juve, if he does move

We will need another CDM when Jorg move, neither Kante, Kovacic nor de jong is a CDM, they are roaming CM/ box to box.

BlueAngel444:
lol u put De Jong as AM but not Mount, be like u never watch la Liga even his stats should tell u something

E get why I dey talk na only Pedri be world class for that midfield, yes he and De Jong get value pass all over them but the fact that Gavi an overhyped 17yr old is more creative than De Jong

You guys are not getting it, the fact that chelsea is going for him I had to succumb and adjust to him being part of the team even if I don’t want him.

Ennyjay69:
na why them dey always insult you,wetin be this??

You Dey craze, who Dey insult me wey never insult you before.