So Foden was given EPL player of the year because he played more minutes abi? Which means Foden needed to play more minutes for his team to win right?
With or without Foden city will still win the league, e.g, if it foden that got injured instead of Halaand city will still win the league. Last season city won treble and Halaand swooped everything individually and competed for ballon d' or where was Foden.
Android17: Palmer wanted to go on loan and Pep said to be sold fully or stay with the team. Palmer left and City won the league again.
Do you remember Mahrez? Palmer has not had a season like Riyad's (one of them won the league as the best player on his team). That Mahrez was a small fry at City yet the big shot at Leicester. Then compare to Foden that stayed back in City and distinguished himself while there.
It doesn't make foden better, time and chance happen to everyone. City is a settled team already, with or without Foden they will still win the league, for example it was foden that got injured instead of Halaand city will still win the league. Last Halaand swooped everything where was foden, they even won ucl and treble.
Android17: So Foden playing more minutes is why City won the league right?
I'm wading through the absolute bunkum you have up there so I won't make a long post. I can also post the numbers but you won't understand it - clearly.
It's why Foden was given epl player of the year, if not he was second to Halaand in the team in terms of statistics.
Android17: What goals and assists mattered for VVD when he won EPL player of the year?
Start from somewhere. You are talking all over the place.
What concerns VVD to foden vs Palmer. When you nor see talk again you bring in another player. Foden and Palmer are both attackers, playing same position so it is a fair argument. Palmer beats Foden in all metrics; eye test, goals and assist and number of man of the match awards on match days. Foden won best player due to injury to Halaand at some point, if not, Halaand actaully dominated man of the match award for city on match days like Palmer for Chelsea.
Android17: Preference? KDB played how many games for CFC vs how many games did Palmer play for City?
Your KDB vs Oscar argument would make sense if Oscar was demonstrably better than KDB in all meaningful metrics like Foden is over Palmer.
Preference?
Foden had 2 YPOTY awards. Foden had a best U-17 world player. Foden now has the EPL player of the year title in the season Palmer was supposedly better than him. Do you guys think?
Palmer is apparently showing why he wanted more first team opportunities than Pep was willing to offer yet Foden goes on to beat him to winning the league, being more impactful to his team and standing out in a better team.
I'm not sure you know what it means to stand out in City. Palmer should tell you what it means. The student who was the class valedictorian in MIT cannot be compared to the best student in LASPOTECH.
At the emboldened, it shows you are using sentiment instead of fact. goals and assist Palmer beat foden, number of man of the match too yet foden beat Palmer in everything lol. Foden played more minutes than Halaand is the reason he won it, nothing else. when Foden was sharing minutes city still won the league so what are you saying. City is a settled team already so it is nothing new. Chelsea boguht most of their players this past season with a lot of injruies what do you expect? to compete with that condition. Halaand dominated city's man of the match award on match days, foden won due to injury to Halaand at some point. Foden was in the team last season when Halaand swooped everything. Statistically, Palmer did better than Foden, has more man of the match than him on match days.
Android17: What does highest goal scorer have to do with anything or highest assist maker?
The title is BEST player not best striker or best assister.
Abi is there any year that Hazard was the top scorer or assister in the league when he won EPL player of the year?
Oh now goals and assists don't matter anymore. I can count five games foden wasn't the best player on the pitch man city still won. Go check how many man of the match award Palmer won for chelsea and how many other city players like KdB, Halaand, Alvarez and Rodrigo won for city. https://www.premierleague.com/man-of-the-match. Foden was just a poster boy because he featured more than Halaand and KDB due to injury to those two.
Android17: Of course. No wonder you've been asking me silly questions since.
KDB missed half of the season.
Haaland missed 3 months.
You people said Gundogan and Mahrez leaving weakened City.
Yet City still won the league. Tell me why and who was the central focus of City's attacking this season. I'm waiting.
Who was highest goal scorer in epl? Was Foden highest in assist? Halaand is a potent striker, mostly against small teams is one of the major reason city won the league.
Android17: So why is Palmer playing for minnows but Foden is playing for the best team in the league?
Abi did you forget that City told Palmer to eff off and still won the league without missing a beat.
Mou preferred Oscar to KDB does that mean Oscar was better. It’s just coach preference and moreover pep never wanted Palmer to leave, Palmer left because he believe in his talent and don’t want to hide under a settled team and be sharing minutes.
Android17: Foden won't take penalties when Haaland plays for the team.
Same way no sensible coach will build around Palmer when Foden is in the same team.
Same Foden that is average while playing for England. If your quality doesn’t drop in anywhere you find yourself as a player shows you are actually good. With eye test alone Palmer is the better player. Foden is sh1t at PK.
Penalty is not easy as you think. Foden shooting technique on pk is poor. The fact that Palmer do it easily doesn’t mean it is easy, it takes a lot of techniques.
Godx: Mr man penalties has an Xg of 0.8 which means they are a usually a guaranteed goal. Stop arguing and learn. Palmer had a brilliant season boosted by lot of penalties yet he didn't come close to Foden.
Godx: Penalties has an Xg of 0.8 so yes they are easy to score.
No they are not, if they are then every other aspect of the game is easy. Palmer beast Foden this past season, he won epl best because his team won the league.
Godx: Tell me the season Pep city played 3-4-3 or 3-5-2.
He started playing three at the back after seeing Conte used it to win the league. Pep didn’t play three at the back while at Barca and Bayern. Why are you arguing what happened yesterday here.
Godx: Palmer season was boosted by the amount of ridiculous penalties he took. Admitting that won't change anything. Foden was head and shoulders above Palmer.
But is penalty easy to score? Foden has being tested to play it and missed. Taking penalty is not for everyone, Foden is not good at it.
Godx: Pep has never played 3 at the back that resembles anything like conte own at City. Pep has only used a variation of 3 at the back last season a whooping 5 years after Conte left Chelsea.
He started using in Conte’s second season for Chelsea, he had to go even buy players suited for it. Mr you are not being truthful here.
Godx: Foden has 19goals and 8 assists with zero penalties.
Palmer had 22goals and 11assists with 9 penalties. This notion that Palmer was even close to Foden in terms of performance should die a natural death.
Foden isn’t good at penalty so wasn’t trusted for it, it’s not Palmer fault that he is good at it. England lost euro due to penalty miss. You are saying it like taking penalty is not part of skill players should posses.
Jude for me, he is the most overrated here. Real madrid tax, couldn’t win German league with Dortmund, even with Halaand as striker. Most talented and gifted here is Palmer then Foden, Saka next before Jude.
Meanwhile, have you noticed that every Chelsea player is always better than other players when compared individually but not great as a collective or when it's time to show winnings.
For instance, Palmer is better than Foden, Fofafa is better than Ake, James is better than Walker. Yet in another argument, Sterling is a world class player helping Pep to dominate EPL. Same world class Sterling came to Chelsea and became the most hated and top class flop.
Then they claimed the players at city are doing well because of the system created by Pep, yet Pep is a fraud #Fraudiola!
Competing against teams like Chelsea and Man U having management problem for sometime now is not a flex. Arteta new to the game while Klopp didnt have the resources to compete against pep.
BlueAngel444: apart from "copying" or "mirroring" some online claims that Chelsea have a squad that fit Enzo better than the other options and RDZ personality didn't fit at this "new" Chelsea.
Anyway considering how Enzo plays, what are chances would you give, he makes top four next season or wins a trophy.
Vischy: Ikenna did a better job to me than Enzo Maresca with Ipswich town but it's well..
We hope for the best.....
Ikenna’s tactical acumen doesn’t really suit technical players which we have in abundant. It’s just like getting Potter all over again. You guys don’t really pay attention to this things.
Vischy: Enzo Maresca will be getting Chelsea job because he was pep assistant, nothing else because Leicester should have won championship comfortably with their squad but they almost bottled it to the point of losing their last game against blackburn rovers.
Damn they're lucky it's championship but this is epl and the standards are ridiculously high.
Was he not the one that extend the lead with 20 points in the first place. Football nor be 1+1=2. What matters is his tactics, if it suit the enormous talent we have then we are good to go.
Vischy: He literally struggled to win after being 20 points away from others in December.
And come on ,this is Leicester city in Championship,whoelse should win it?
That was due to fatigue as a result of shortage of players at some point. If you observe we didn’t suffer fatigue even when hit with injuries due to surplus of talent. Poch was just naive not to try new tactics until…
WhoDeyHause: This Maresca even looks worse than Ikenna to me this one he almost bottled a 20 point lead in championship. But wetin man go do we've already seen worse and it's just to hope for the new manager to do well or pray English parliament would find evidence linking Boli and Egbami to the Israel gaza war. Na apari season we dey.
There are no perfections, he won the league is what matter. Pep won the league on the last day in epl. Enzo is the best option among others. I’m 100 percent in support of his signature. He is Italian? they are always tactical which suit English football, coupled with learning work from Spaniard.