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TrebleChamp:
See painment from conference League club fan....

You haven’t heard the latest; you will be disqualified from Europa league.

How far bring the money you won to daddy

A001:
Hmmmm. Oga Ibime, how you see Enzo Maresca coming to Chelsea? Can he spring a surprise as a dark horse or he's another Potter in the making?

Looks like a done deal already.

Italian coach can never be Potter.

raumdeuter:
And won more league titles and CL than Ancelotti in less seasons

Thats because he outspent them.

raumdeuter:
Pep coached a club that was trying to climb up and needed to spend money the same way Chelsea needed to spend money to climb up when Roman bought it

We are saying same thing he outspent Ancelotti and others in less seasons.

raumdeuter:
It's not actually hate, it's senselessness.

Is the value of players in 2024 the same as in 2004?

What is the value of the most expensive EPL player in 2004 and what is the value now?

Ancelotti is from 1992 to 2024 and still active. Talk another thing.

airmark:
Raumdeuter will be interested in this.

2008 to 2024 for that matter. When we talk they think it’s from hate.

NinjaMetahuman:
so ancelloti is still the undisputed GOAT of managers even when it comes to money spent.

Sure he is number 1.

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Android17:
Rashford scored 17 league goals and assisted 5. Erling had 36 league goals alone (remove the 5 or more assists he also had). You say Rashford deserved the award.

Foden had better stats than Rashford by the way (and one of them did not play penalties). You said he was less impactful. Yet his team won the league. What else can define impact?

Where is Foden below. Foden na benefit boys forget long story. Man city did better last season and Foden wasn’t the best player. Pep wanted to prepare Palmer to replace either KDB or Silva in that attacking midfield role because of his vision from distance without needing to run but Palmer can not wait for them to be sold so had to leave for Chelsea.

Android17:
Foden also had a statistically better season than Mahrez so how did you define the impact?

Both players won the league but Foden scored and assisted more than Mahrez. You say Mahrez had more impact but when it comes to Palmer you remove impact and talk stats. Should Watkins not be the one making the stats argument?

Winning epl with lecester city is more honorable than with city sighting both teams budget and quality of players. Mahrez did better with leicester city winning the league thana foden with city.

Godx:
So you are telling us Rashford was the best player in Epl last season?

Did Rashford has more man of the match than Halaand like Palmer against Foden.

Godx:
Same way Rashford was voted last season.

That's because he deserved it last season. Palmer beat Foden in goal and assist, had more man of the match awards than him

Android17:
Which means Mahrez season is better than Palmer's because Foden's season was better than Palmer's or how did you come to your conclusion about Mahrez season? Did he score more than Foden etc?

Olie Watkins had more assists and non-penalty goals than Palmer too. Did you forget that part?

Statistically Palmer had a better season than Foden. Mahrez season with leceister winning the league was more impactful to that of Foden's.

Android17:
Yes Mahrez' was better than Palmer's season at CFC but then came to City and saw how average he was. Then you want to compare standing out for City vs standing out for a useless CFC team. Does that make any sense?

Mahrez season with Leicester winning the league is better than that of Foden this season. Palmer is PFA fan player of the season, won match of the season against Man U, had more man of the match, goals and assist than Foden.

Android17:
Everyone keeps saying what?

Which team helped Foden to win U-17 world cup for England? What about when Foden was winning YPOTY for City. Did Palmer not play for the same City and manager? Why did he not win it too with the same team Foden had?

We are talking of this season you bringing under 17 like Palmer didn’t win under 21 euro championship. Are you aware Palmer is PFA fan player of the season, in other words, fans think Palmer is the best player this season.

Godx:
Penalties are easy that's why they have an Xg is 0.8. 80 out of 100 times they go on. Am wasting my time on people arguing against basic maths.

Which mumu maths, yet some players are worse at it, including Foden.

Android17:
Time and chance did not happen to Palmer?

City is a settled team? Settled how? How can you say City would have won the league without Foden when Foden is adjudged the best EPL player? Do you know what that means or are you just talking your usual rubbish?

Chelsea would have finished 6th without Palmer. After all, you were still bottom half for most of the season even with all Palmer's goals. One can even say that it was the likes of Cucurella's new role and Enzo being out that helped your team much more than Palmer. See how that argument works?

Foden won Palmer with slim margin even when his team won the league what does that tell you. Everyone keep saying Palmer lost because his team mate didn't do better, not because foden was better than him. Statistically and eye test Palmer edge Foden. football is not lawn tennis so a tree can not make a forest.

Android17:
Just like Riyad was in Leicester right? Kalvin Phillips in Leeds right? When they came to City, did they not hide?

So why is Foden not hiding?

Mahrez was the better player when you compare both seasons they won epl best.

Android17:
Ok.

So Foden was given EPL player of the year because he played more minutes abi? Which means Foden needed to play more minutes for his team to win right?

If Palmer can be nominated playing in an unsettled side like Chelsea isn't that a testimony of palmer's football ability.

Android17:
Wait.

Goals and assists did not matter for VVD right? Cool.

If Goals and assists are fair game. I assume Palmer had 19 non-penalty goals right? And those goals helped his team win the league right?

Because you said Foden won because Haaland was injured. So that means, even with a handicap, Foden elevated his team to a higher level abi? When Foden's striker was not playing, Foden still went on to decide games for his team abi? And his team was the best team?

I said foden won best player due to injury to Halaand you are talking of league. with or without foden city will still win the league, they won better last season when halaand was fully fit. foden is the fifth important player in that city team; rodri, halaand, kdb and b silva are ahead of him.

Android17:
Ok.

So Foden was given EPL player of the year because he played more minutes abi? Which means Foden needed to play more minutes for his team to win right?

With or without Foden city will still win the league, e.g, if it foden that got injured instead of Halaand city will still win the league. Last season city won treble and Halaand swooped everything individually and competed for ballon d' or where was Foden.

Android17:
Palmer wanted to go on loan and Pep said to be sold fully or stay with the team. Palmer left and City won the league again.

Do you remember Mahrez? Palmer has not had a season like Riyad's (one of them won the league as the best player on his team). That Mahrez was a small fry at City yet the big shot at Leicester. Then compare to Foden that stayed back in City and distinguished himself while there.

It doesn't make foden better, time and chance happen to everyone. City is a settled team already, with or without Foden they will still win the league, for example it was foden that got injured instead of Halaand city will still win the league. Last Halaand swooped everything where was foden, they even won ucl and treble.

Android17:
So Foden playing more minutes is why City won the league right?

I'm wading through the absolute bunkum you have up there so I won't make a long post. I can also post the numbers but you won't understand it - clearly.

It's why Foden was given epl player of the year, if not he was second to Halaand in the team in terms of statistics.

Android17:
What goals and assists mattered for VVD when he won EPL player of the year?

Start from somewhere. You are talking all over the place.

What concerns VVD to foden vs Palmer. When you nor see talk again you bring in another player. Foden and Palmer are both attackers, playing same position so it is a fair argument. Palmer beats Foden in all metrics; eye test, goals and assist and number of man of the match awards on match days. Foden won best player due to injury to Halaand at some point, if not, Halaand actaully dominated man of the match award for city on match days like Palmer for Chelsea.

Android17:
Preference? KDB played how many games for CFC vs how many games did Palmer play for City?

Your KDB vs Oscar argument would make sense if Oscar was demonstrably better than KDB in all meaningful metrics like Foden is over Palmer.

Preference?

Foden had 2 YPOTY awards. Foden had a best U-17 world player. Foden now has the EPL player of the year title in the season Palmer was supposedly better than him. Do you guys think?

Palmer is apparently showing why he wanted more first team opportunities than Pep was willing to offer yet Foden goes on to beat him to winning the league, being more impactful to his team and standing out in a better team.

I'm not sure you know what it means to stand out in City. Palmer should tell you what it means. The student who was the class valedictorian in MIT cannot be compared to the best student in LASPOTECH.

At the emboldened, it shows you are using sentiment instead of fact. goals and assist Palmer beat foden, number of man of the match too yet foden beat Palmer in everything lol. Foden played more minutes than Halaand is the reason he won it, nothing else. when Foden was sharing minutes city still won the league so what are you saying. City is a settled team already so it is nothing new. Chelsea boguht most of their players this past season with a lot of injruies what do you expect? to compete with that condition. Halaand dominated city's man of the match award on match days, foden won due to injury to Halaand at some point. Foden was in the team last season when Halaand swooped everything. Statistically, Palmer did better than Foden, has more man of the match than him on match days.

Skimpledawg:
This shit is cold!

How is it cold when he is saying nonsense. Pep asked Palmer to stay he refused.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuV6v6l6uFg

Android17:
What does highest goal scorer have to do with anything or highest assist maker?

The title is BEST player not best striker or best assister.

Abi is there any year that Hazard was the top scorer or assister in the league when he won EPL player of the year?

Oh now goals and assists don't matter anymore. I can count five games foden wasn't the best player on the pitch man city still won. Go check how many man of the match award Palmer won for chelsea and how many other city players like KdB, Halaand, Alvarez and Rodrigo won for city. https://www.premierleague.com/man-of-the-match. Foden was just a poster boy because he featured more than Halaand and KDB due to injury to those two.

Android17:
Of course. No wonder you've been asking me silly questions since.

KDB missed half of the season.

Haaland missed 3 months.

You people said Gundogan and Mahrez leaving weakened City.

Yet City still won the league. Tell me why and who was the central focus of City's attacking this season. I'm waiting.

Who was highest goal scorer in epl? Was Foden highest in assist? Halaand is a potent striker, mostly against small teams is one of the major reason city won the league.

Android17:
So why is Palmer playing for minnows but Foden is playing for the best team in the league?

Abi did you forget that City told Palmer to eff off and still won the league without missing a beat.

Mou preferred Oscar to KDB does that mean Oscar was better. It’s just coach preference and moreover pep never wanted Palmer to leave, Palmer left because he believe in his talent and don’t want to hide under a settled team and be sharing minutes.

Android17:
Foden won't take penalties when Haaland plays for the team.

Same way no sensible coach will build around Palmer when Foden is in the same team.

Same Foden that is average while playing for England. If your quality doesn’t drop in anywhere you find yourself as a player shows you are actually good. With eye test alone Palmer is the better player. Foden is sh1t at PK.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfG6AXYqSnY?si=268l-9cznHQ3vy3F