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As I saw Zouma replacing Rudiger I already know we will concede.

Lampard should build on this three at the back. I believe James will perform better RWB instead of RB. Azpilicueta can be used as RCB.

LegoxMetahuman:
alonso is very composed today

I told that guy that Alonso is useful. These three at the back is where we the best of Alonso. I’m glad lampard changes formation.

Melvyn11:
Don't ask stupid question.

Stop been a nuisance on here.

thorrvik55:
Technique is the ability to dominate and run out of tight spaces -> Melvyn11, 2019.

That guy Na just m u m u. Chai

Melvyn11:
Stop disgracing yourself. Lampard only ability over some one like fabregas is his goals which is useless in rating midfielders and maybe work rate apart from that fabregas is levels ahead in Technique, passing, creativity,control,infact everything. Lampard only ability that makes people remember na goals nothing else.

What do you understand by technique in football?

A40:
Shut up Mr Hensbrain.

Great players elevate their team to win trophies. The likes of Jordan, Maradona, Pele and Ronaldo and Messi are praised because their greatness lifted their teams to Championships. So don't tell me that a Lampard surrounded by other 'World class' players could not win a title and then tell me dumb shit like football is a team sport as if Lampard's team was not good enough to succeed. M0ron

Why hasn’t Messi lifted Argentina national team to trophy? Was it Cr7 that scored the goal against France which gave Portugal national team European trophy? Stop been silly and type like an adult. Football is a team sport. So lampard didn’t win ucl. M u g u.

Branzy:
One day we will read here Ronaldinho, Yaya, rooney is over rated here. Nothing we no go see. Many people here are embarrassment to football

Raumdeuter caused all this with beer parlor football analysis.

A40:
Don't mind biased EPL fans. I respect Lampard quite a bit but his excellence started and ended at Chelsea where he was their primary penalty taker. Padding stats with almost 50 penalties in 600 league appearances.

Went to World Cup and the one penalty England needed him to score he missed.

They will mention him with the Xavi's, Pirlo's etc but ask them to show us Lampard reaching semifinals outside Chelsea and watch them stutter and clutch at straws

Stop disgracing yourself. To reach semi finals is team effort, football is a team sport.

Melvyn11:
Ability to get out of tight places and technique are attributes of a midfielder. That will impact how we judge them not goals that you Chelsea fans use to self-service on about Lampard.

And who told you the only way a player can be great as a midfielder is when he can move out of tight space.

Melvyn11:
Ask a Barca fan.

Nonsense and ingredient.

Melvyn11:
Go and ask a Barca Fan.

No you tell me. I believe you are not a chelsea fan but talking about Lampard. I expect you to know about iniesta.

Melvyn11:
what is special about his assist record? When players like fabregas with less matches is having more than him that's what you call exceptional. If after 18season he was not top 5 it would have been a disgrace.

David Silva 282 matches 83assist
Lampard 609 matches 102assist.

Ahead by 19assist with Silva playing 300+ less games. Don't ever mention his assist record to hype him their was not exceptional about them.

What make iniesta special then? Since goals and assist he is very average.

raumdeuter:
How was Klopp doing well at the beginning when he moved Liverpool from 6th to 8th in his first season with less points than his predecessor had?

Pep took City from 4th to 3rd increasing their points, Klopp took Liverpool from 6th to 8th reducing their points

Tell us which of the 2 did well in the beginning

You are not getting it. Smh

raumdeuter:
Who said the below

This was like the beginning of the season klopp was doing well with what he came to meet whereas pep was struggling.

raumdeuter:
Season before Klopp joined Liverpool finished 6th with 62points, first season of Klopp Liverpool finished 8th with 60 points
Season before Pep joined City finished 4th with 66points, First season of Pep City finished 3rd 78 points

Verdict Pep couldnt compete immediately while Klopp immediately started competing

No wonder you are the senior prefect at the citadel

You are the one saying klopp competed in his first season. I am only letting you know the state of the two clubs before they were signed.

raumdeuter:
Klopps first season in EPL where did he finish?

Peps first season he finished 3rd(78points). verdict He couldnt compete
Klopps first season finished 8th(60points). second season 4th(below Pep) verdict he was competing immediately he got to the EPL

Do you now see why people think you are not sensible

Liverpool were in shambles when klopp came unlike man city who were always a competitor for the epl title before pep.

raumdeuter:
Who were Busquets Pedro, Pique, before Pep got to Barcelona?

Were bousquet and Pedro core players for Barcelona like Lewy and Gotze. Why not mention Xavi, Messi, Puyol, Alves, Toure yaya, iniesta, ibrahjmovich Which he signed and sold also.

raumdeuter:
Do you know Liverpool has won 5 CL before Klopp?

Man city reached semi final and then sign pep. Liverpool were in shambles when they signed klopp.

Melvyn11:
None of your Epistles will change the fact that Liverpool 11 was more expensive than that of Madrid. And guess the coach with the most expensive starting 11 to ever win the Champions League.

Big lie. Madrid players would cost more in the market than Liverpool player as at then.

raumdeuter:
So context matters now? But do you consider that Man City side has never won anything in Europe in their entire existence or they have never had a pedigree in the comptition

But they have reached semi final before pep. With the money pep has spent he is supposed to be reaching final or semi final in the ucl.

Melvyn11:
Pep doesn't get to hide behind the "underdogs/no-one expected us to win trophy" tag like Klopp. Guardiola doesn't get 4 years to build a team to win one trophy.

With the money pep has spent in man city he is supposed to be reaching at least semi final or final in the ucl.

Melvyn11:
He also inherited Van dijk from Southampton Bwhahahaha. Now when klopp has the more expensive Eleven you have started making Excuses for his failures.

Not that he signed Dijk from Real Madrid or Barcelona but Southampton. Are you aware Dijk according to many people was a gamble which Klopp utilized very well. Why do you think airmark has been arguing Dijk with lordfalcao that he is better than Rudiger.

raumdeuter:
Dortmund already played Europa cup the season before and crashed out of the group stages. when they were only able to beat Karpaty Lviv

Who were lewandowski and Gotze prior to that time. We’re they top footballers as at then, was it not same klopp that made them who are which make other club to see them as world class.

kendrick93:
klopp and his team was quite inexperienced in Europe..it was their first trial in Europe too..
You could see after he got the hang of things he started smashing it in Europe...
That's called team building something pep hasn't experienced because he's been playing real life football manager where he can sign whoever he wants no matter the costs

Those two were not even world class player as at that time. Klopp groomed those players.

Melvyn11:
He did exactly what klopp did in less than 6 months not 4 yrs without breaking any transfer record so tell me what exactly is klopp Praised for?

Klop is praised for his consistency, he is praised for rejuvenating and making Liverpool formidable again just the way he rejuvenated Dortmund if not for Bayern and other clubs that came to sign his best players he would’ve won ucl with dortmund that I am sure of. Klopp is praised for keeping Liverpool transfer policy intact and still doing well. He sold coutinho for an outrageous fee so it is wise to invest that money into the squad and he bought DIjk and Allison who were his priority seeing that coutinho was an important player for the club.

Melvyn11:
All I care about is the amount used in assembling both teams and Liverpool came on top. So the argument of being underdogs is dead.

The point is pep has been unable to win ucl or even make final outside Barca. Not that he went to an average team after Barca. This is what make him overrated. He is good no doubt but he is a conformist and overrated. Klopp is a better coach than him seeing that klopp has done great with an average team like Dortmund. Klopp groomed most of those Dortmund players to world class level. Tell me if this is not a world class criteria. Pep first season in epl he couldn’t even compete the local cup he had to overhaul the team, whereas klopp was competing with Chelsea with the players he came to meet.

raumdeuter:
The same way they told us

Put Benitez at Madrid, Put Moyes at Man Utd, Put AVB at Chelsea... etc A coach succeeds at a small budget club, put him in a big club

Na there Tuchel sef dey now

You are just trying to be funny, no correlation with what he said. Nobody with his right sense will even put motes or AVB side by side with klopp. Klopp don’t just win trophies, he groom average players to be world class or on a beast mode, his style of play is exciting to watch. What he did with Dortmund players was top notch, he groomed those players and was taking them to ucl finals. Klopp is the current best manager and he is way above those coaches you named.

kendrick93:
Pep can fill his bench with 50m players...
The resources pep has at man city hasn't been seen before in the history of football..
He can literally field two teams without any drop in quality..
Put Klopp at man city and he will loads of trophies with that much resources but Pep at Liverpool will probably finish fourth...
Remembered Liverpool had a Frontline of benteke,balotelli,ings and Lambert when klopp joined..
pep would probably have resigned if he had to deal with that much dross

Exactly, Plus that Melvin guy saying klopp is tier two manager because he has not manage big players, ask if pep was able to manage big players like Ronaldinho, eto, deco, Kroose for bayern Munich, Hays Toure of man city, abrahimovich, pep couldn’t manager any of these players. Does that make Pep a tier 2 mamager too. The way people talk ehn all in the name to defend their favorite.

airmark:
The new daddy in town. I thank God for the safe delivery.

Congratulation bro.

Melvyn11:
Ranieri used average players to achieve great things same with Di mateo even the Greece coach who won Euros04 that everybody has forgotten about. If using average players to win stuff is your bread and butter that means you place Ranieri and Di Mateo above Ancelotti and Zidane. Yes or No!

Riniery won epl not ucl. Di Mateo winning ucl was a fluke and the determination of the players. Those who watch chelsea play under Di Mateo knew we were just defending and looking for one breakthrough.

Melvyn11:
He did exactly what klopp did in less than 6 months not 4 yrs without breaking any transfer record so tell me what exactly is klopp Praised for?

Anybody with eye will know chelsea won ucl as a result of the experienced players in the team, their determination and hunger for ucl glory made it happen that night. Watching Chelsea play under Di Mateo was an eyesore. The Di Mateo argument you are bringing up doesn’t even make sense because aside winning ucl klopp is a trainer, he turned average players to world class and use them to do great things, this type of coach are very rare this days. Pep did marque signings in all position include the bench and you are telling medegedegede.