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dopeJemi:
So who won chelsea the league? Do you get points or win games by chances created or goals scored? Fact remains, costa won chelsea the league.

Do you win league by scoring just 20 goals? Fact is Hazard brilliance and rest of the team won us the league.

bykebyke:
DaF*uck....

Yes o...Chelsea would've still won Epl last season without Diego Costa.

Which one be DAF*uck, Barca never win treble before. Answer me. Like say neymar na barca hit man. Una dey F k up i swear.

dopeJemi:
Who won chelsea the league then? Hazard? Wasn't costa chelsea's highest goal scorer?

Like Costa surpassed Hazard with zillion goals. smh. Aside that, tell me what Costa did better than Hazard?. With Hazard's role, it would've been a disgrace if he scored goals more than Costa(a CF).

dmcdad:
Huh I would pretend I didn't see this. I would let it pass. I absorb you of all your sins and ignorance.

Watch all neymar's goals and assist then come back to tell me another story. The assist he gave messi were one-two, messi made runs then exchange pass with him to score whereas, messi assisted most of his tap-in with sublime passes either directly or indirectly. I like hazard and neymar as fine players they are but using sentiment to bring one down while ignoring the factors to consider in their performance for their respective clubs is injustice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hWSSKrNGBE

nonsoroyalty:
[s]Ok I was told u live in tanzania lol was it through the boot u got there ?

Stop seeking for my attention u've been trying to get it since now you've seen one

Do me a favour and f..uck of to tanzania or whatever shitthole u came from u mug[/s]

TRASH from baba 40, reasoning like a primary 6 pupil. Lol. Reverse is the case.

SIRcumalot:
So you're saying Hazard for iniesta ?
How is that going to work considering style of play and position.
Their is no shame in admitting hazard won't make barca's first team.

Did barca bid for hazard? The answer is no. Hazard is a play-maker as well, he can play AMF(iniesta's position), LMF n RMF. How are you sure he wouldn't make barca first team or you just conclude that out of sentiment. Hazard would suit barca very well but unfortunately, Chelsea are not ready to negotiate with any club(even Real Madrid) for his service. Chelsea rarely sell their important players

nonsoroyalty:
Weeks ago I added u to the list of people I ignore or should I say vcp viewing centre pundits people who watch footie in viewing centres paying 50 naira

I will add u back to that list goodbye

So you believe its everybody on here that lives in nigeria huh and how is watching football at viewing center a bad thing huh. Faceless forum dey make some people feel like demi-god, in reality they are church rat.

About ignoring someone, i'm the one ignoring you. I dey see your mention but i chose not to reply because your comments are childish.

nonsoroyalty:
ill advise u to quit arguing with that guy

Someone who say's neymar's 65% goals were tap in with no proof


Sometimes u ask do they even know what a tap in really is? U see new born babies using the word tap-in

were is your own proof about hazard huh. Double standard being. The truth is glaring in my post but you're blinded by hatred and sentiments.

nonsoroyalty:
Hazard scores loads of tap ins and penalties last season

But we barca fans are not that jobless to start taking counts

Hazard is a faliure he takes penalties for chelsea fc and still has 5 ucl goals and only 3 from open play
Now that is a disgrace

Do u think I have missed chelsea matches since. 2012? I always watch your matches to see ur team lose and I even fall asleep most times
A winger has only 8 goals for belguim the same with ahmed musa for nigeria


Between ahmed musa and hazard who had a better world cup campaign individually since musa scored more than ikebe super?

Youve started 'yarning' megedemegede as usual. Lol.. Are you not ashamed that you're beefing your last born age mate(hazard), calling him names. Lol.
My friend gerrarahere.

nonsoroyalty:
He scored 15 and assited 7 almost the stat of ikedia's best season


I swear on whatever I hold dear w/o hazard chelsea would have still won the league and mickey mouse carling cup

But w/o fabregas assists distrubutor with costa goal executor do u think chelsea would miss hazard if not for his left and right jay jay okocha dribbles

Barca have won treble and would've still won it last season without Neymar. Messi adjusted his playing style and position to accommodate Suarez and assist Neymar with tap-in since he was average the previous season considering his signing fee.
I swear you lack football knowledge. Lol

*IgnoresHimCompletely*.

dmcdad:
Who is talking about goals? Infact, I give up on you. There is no need educating someone who doesn't wanna learn. That would be a waste of time, energy and resources.

Stay cool with whatever belief you have.

who doesn't wanna learn? Hahaha. When you turn football professor huh or nor be same screen and matches me and you dey watch. Before messi and cr7, players were rated base on their overall performance but these generation fan only judge players base on number of goals. #pathetic. Thank God sport pundit and ex players are mature and non-sentimental. Same reason fans are not allowed to vote when naming best players else the favoritism and nepotism would've been glaring and amusing to the judge.

Debroslink:
Fixed

So you mean Sanchez played one season for barca? That guy you mentioned is wrong.

dmcdad:
Of course since Neymar came (just 2 seasons ago), he played from the bench for the most part. But before that he was mostly a starter.

how do you expect barca to bench Neymar considering his signing fee. Neymar wasn't superb in his first season but he can't be bench rather messi has to adjust his game the following season to support him, can same be said of Pedro when he was playing as a regular starter huh.

dmcdad:
Now I can see you are bent on talking from both sides of your mouth. This would be my last response to you after which I would rest my case.

You talked about judging both players with almost their entire stats including but not limited to; chances created, defensive ability, assists, et al. But unfortunately, you didn't come up with any of the aforementioned. As for individual awards, c'mon don't make a f of yourself. If you judge with individual awards, I would do same with team awards. And the last time I checked, team awards supersedes individual awards. No? Ask Mourinho.
Plus, he has not won a quarter of the individual awards Neymar has scooped from playing in Santos and even in the national team.

Now let me educate you properly. When next you wanna digress with a point you are making, make sure you know your stuff hook, line and sinker. Pedro scored 99 goals, but did you put up the goal per game ratio? Of course not because you know it wouldn't do any good to your intended assertion. He scored 99 goals in 321 appearances from 2008 through 2015. And mind you, he wasn't always a sub. You don't agree? Check for the meaning of this acronym "MVP." Neymar on the other hand has played just over a hundred games for Barca and has scored 54 goals. Do the maths and see if they are on the same class.

Messi has been scoring tons of goals before Neymar quite alright. Same thing goes when you flip it. Neymar has been scoring and is still scoring in Brazil where Messi isn't playing. What would you say is the cause then? That Messi sends passes to him from Argentina or what? Of course Messi has an influence on him when it comes to scoring, but that is because football is a team sport and every player requires his teammates to perform well. I guess this spells why Messi or any striker are not the ones being the goalkeepers.

You and I know Neymar thrives more where he is the boss. In his maiden season, his best games came when Messi wasn't present. That gave him the ability to play his game to the fullest, and when he does, he causes havoc. Neymar is a big game player and every good and sane football fan knows this. He singlehandedly won Brazil the Confederations Cup by destroying every team that he got to face, including the then World Champions (Spain). No? He was taking care of proceedings too during the World Cup before the worst happened. Doing what he knows best in the Copa America too before he got his ban. In all these competitions, he never played with Messi or Suarez remember.

Wait oooooo! How many times has Hazard scored when the opponents parked the bus? Oh I forgot, you don't experience parked buses. Last season or the season before, it was just against West Ham. Now come to Spain, and not just to Spain, but to Barcelona where Neymar faces teams with 10 men behind the ball for the full stretch of a game. In all truthfulness, you think Hazard would score 5 goals against such teams? Oh I forgot, there are always penalties. These are the kinda teams Neymar plays week-in week-out. You think if he plays in EPL where acres of space are left for attackers to exploit he wouldn't break a scoring record? Dang!

So, to undermine his influence would be unwise and myopic. He is head and shoulders above Hazard. No? Prove to me a stage Hazard has excelled but not Neymar.

Neymar single handedly won Brazil confederation cup? How?pls don't make me laugh. Football is a team sport, oscar, Gustavo, paulinho were superb in that tournament though Neymar was/is the focal man since Brazil lack quality number 9 currently hence his goals record for national team. When Pedro was starting eleven for barca messi was playing false 9, he played more of individual football. Last season, he played RWF/striker to accommodate Suarez and assisted most of neymar's tap-in.
You guys are sentimental, that's the fact. Iniesta doesn't has the goals and assist in tones but he is a phenomenon. Him and zidane are my football idol. You've to see football beyond goals.

dmcdad:
The same way you posted your source when you said he played mostly as a sub? Ah... Hypocrisy indeed.

or you're the same people that call him a bench warmer because he now play for Chelsea. # double standard peeps.

ollah1:
Guardiola's seasons
1st: Messi, Etoo and Henry
2nd: Messi, Ibrahimovic and Pedro
3rd: Messi, Villa and Pedro
4th: Messi, Villa and Pedro

Tito Villanova
Messi, villa and Pedro

Gerado Martino
Messi, Villa and Pedro

Now do the maths

were is your source to this?

djembadjemba:
Nobody should argue with this guy. It's a waste of time.

Why pick only that to type rubbish huh. I know Pedro played one or two seasons as a starter but most as a sub.

chrisley024:
hmmm. It's now all round play. Jose change of tactics(like by parking the bus) after Fab and Costa went off won you the league. He'd have lost it if he continued attacking in games.

No one says he ain't good but he's being overhyped. People blame chelshit's style of play, how about Belgium?

Hazard is not overhyped stop saying that. Zidane and other ex players compare his play to messi and cr7's it doesn't equate he is on same pal with them, Anti-Chelsea are the ones changing the words of those ex players and sport pundit. Hazard has been consistent right from Lille as his individual award prove that. So goals is the only criteria to rate player high right?.

Debroslink:
Please tell us who Musa Hazard will bench in the current Barca 1st 11?

He'll definitely start for barca if they should sign him considering his signing fee moreover, iniesta is not getting younger so he can be use there. Hazard is very good with the ball which is barca's first assessment.
Remember Neymar struggled in his first season for barca but he can't be bench for Pedro due to his signing fee so they have to make sure he adapt.

elampiro:
I am not comparing them. I am only worried about the disrespect to Hazard.

However, if Hazard played for Barca and Spain he could have achieved those feat if not better.

Hazard is still young, he still has so much to achieve if he keeps going.

Excellent comment. This is were people are getting wrong. Pedro almost hit 100 goals as a sub, to tell you barca attacking prowess and fluidity.

chrisley024:
all those you listed above profit his team nothing, what will are his goals and assists.

His team won epl and carling cup, his all round play gave Chelsea the league. When costa was down with injury, fabregas went off form he took the mantle to himself, he was consistent with his play. Cr7 scored 60+ goals for Real Madrid yet they went trophy-less.

What a way to die

What will he tell God huh

Oluwa have mercy on my life.

dmcdad:
People are just hating and hating. Pure hypocrites! The season prior to last season(that is Neymar's maiden season), the complain was that there were 2 versions of Neymar. The Brazilian Neymar and the Barça Neymar. People were wailing that he should replicate his Brazil form for Barça.

Fast forward a season after (last season), after scoring 39 mouthwatering times, same people started saying he was being spoonfed by Messi and Suarez. How come no one is complaining about Penaldo being spoonfed and all? And how come no one is taking into account that Hazard takes penalties for Chelshit, which obviously increases his goal tally.

Take away his penalties and you are left with winger/attacker scoring a paltry 10 goals. Now tell me, why would a sane person compare such a player with the one who scored 39 goals. Haba! It's not fair na. And as if that was not sinful enough, they compared him to the demi-god and Penaldo. Now, that's first grade foolishness if you ask me.

If you judge hazard base on goals I will do same to Neymar base on chances created, defensive ability, assist and individual award this past season. How about that?. Hazard scored 20 goals and assisted 15 for Lille why can't he do same playing for barca. Pedro almost hit 100 goals as a sub. Player, to tell you barca fluidity and attacking prowess.
Messi has been scoring tones of goals before Neymar so forget about 7 assist Neymar gave to him, it doesn't add anything to messi's brilliance.

nonsoroyalty:
Mourinho only plays defensive games, are you having a laugh mate? The same mourinho who made real madrid the best attacking team in 2012,in which benzema,higuan,cr7 scored a mouth watering 118, a record that stood till this year.
Hazard has missed 4 big and easy chances this season. Against arsenal,city and hosts of other.
Was it mourinho who went into the pitch to stopp him from scoring the easy chances he had.
Dear hensben we know ramos is not a striker,but do u think if he misses an easy opportunity my grandma could score he would be un-criticised
I still haven't giving my take on ikedia,its too early to start laughing at the fat as.s player.
Its 2015 and you still use the suarez and messi feeding neymar as an excuse,did you know neymar also assisted messi 7 times last season

Did you know neymar had the second most dribbles in laliga behind messi

Tell me any player that haven't miss a sitter. Neymar missed couple of chances last season but the different is that a lot of chances will still be created for him to score unlik Chelsea who create chance every 20 minutes against smaller teams and 40 minutes against big teams. Those goals Real Madrid scored under mou 70% of them were mostly from cr7.
I'm 100% sure you don't know barca more than me. After Chelsea, barca is my 2nd club so I watch their games. 80% of neymar's goals last season were tap-in/one on one with goalkeeper and messi feeds him about 65% of those goals directly or indirectly.
Ps: supporting barca doesn't make you 'football analytical genius' neither supporting Granada fc make one 'football ignorant' so learn to be mature with your comment. I believe you started supporting barca this 2000 era same with most Chelsea, man united, arsenal fan on this forum or you want to tell me you've been supporting barca right from the day she was found.

dmcdad:
Hazard (Chelsea): "I often ask what I can do to be like Messi, Ronaldo, score 50-60 goals. I'll never be true scorer. It's not in me."

States the obvious. And yet them still dey compare the guy to Ney. Na wa ooooo.

Neymar that's feeding from Suarez and messi. Hazard and Neymar plays different position for their respective team. Neymar is a striker/LWF in 4-3-3 formation while hazard play winger/LMF in 4-2-3-1 formation.

Now read this;

Mourhino's tactics is sicken mostly against big team. Hazard can't become world best player under a coach who play defensive football and no fluidity. Moreover, messi is still around so no chance. That been said, epl teams are average technically reason LVG is struggling with manure, he is trying to play ball possession game with them. If cr7 was still in epl his goal scoring form would've dropped long ago, a player can't be consistent in epl due to the physicality of the league. Cr7 only had one or two great seasons before he left. Hazard still has the talent but he's tired(fatigue) same with matic, they will bounce back to form because class is permanent.
Hazard is a great player , I think he would score more goals if he was playing for barca. But 20 goals a season for a left winger/midfielder that also has a lot defensive duties under Jose is a big accomplishment.

Mourhino's tactics is sicken mostly against big team. Hazard can't become world best player under a coach who play defensive football and no fluidity. Moreover, messi is still around so no chance. That been said, epl teams are average technically reason LVG is struggling with manure, he is trying to play ball possession game with them. If cr7 was still in epl his goal scoring form would've dropped long ago, a player can't be consistent in epl due to the physicality of the league. Cr7 only had one or two great seasons before he left. Hazard still has the talent but he's tired(fatigue) same with matic, they will bounce back to form because class is permanent.
Hazard is a great player , I think he would score more goals if he was playing for barca. But 20 goals a season for a left winger/midfielder that also has a lot defensive duties under Jose is a big accomplishment.

directonpc:
you mean worthy ?

Nah! I meant worldly. I term the words of some people on here that speak ill of Buhari government 'a worldly comment'.

ignis:
BTW... It's worthy not worldly. .
If you want to read worthy comments on Nairaland, keep off first page, because most comments on first pages are by space bookers who have nothing important to say.

@Topic, Is it only primary school pupils that have mouth to eat? What about Secondary and University students?

Actually I meant 'worldly comment' in my post. I'm talking to those people on here that speak ill of Buhari led government. I term their words or rather comment 'A worldly one'.

SaiBuharii:
I honestly still wonder why Rita Dominic, Genevieve Nnaji and other very make-sense artists are not married. This ladies/women are close to 40 or over 40.

okpo things don enter their head so them don forget marriage.

Good for her career, make I face my own.

Here to read worldly comments.

cococandy:
What's wrong with getting her a job. They need his permission to get her a job and he's claiming he's not abusive. Who thinks like that if not a controlling person.

How is that controlling, Is that how a PASTOR suppose to behave; giving her a SAN and job in his absence knowing fully well he has been begging her to return home. Why is the pastor not picking his calls. She has 4 kids for him for Pete sake.