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Ballzproblem2:
Jorginho Stan's milking this pass more than Disney is Milkimg star wars 😭

This was after his pass to Abraham a season ago. Meanwhile Enzo constantly and consistently throw this type of passes.

popizaino:
I don't miss Jorginho one bit.

Person wey I Dey vex for because him make my G Kante run himself down, mostly that ucl run we won, Kante over labored.

People that understand football. Everything is not hate just because they are not massaging egos.

These are people who watch football keenly.

Lana1:
So glad he's someone else's problem now

He plays too much, all due to lack of discipline.

Ibime:
What's the angle of the bounce?

You can't compare a ball bouncing horizontally to a ball heading in direction of goal

It's always easier to lob when the ball is heading in direction of goal.

When the ball is bouncing in the direction of throw-in line, you have to factor in changing the angle and the elevation with one strike. That means hitting a sweet spot on your instep that would do both at the same time. All Havertz had to do was change the elevation, the angle was already in the direction of goal. Muani lobbing the keeper is not impossible but strikers are unlikely to take that option 7 times out of ten

The angle even made it more easier for him to lob seeing that he is a right footer, it’s just for him to lob it with his inside foot.

Ibime:
What's the angle of the bounce?

You can't compare a ball bouncing horizontally to a ball heading in direction of goal

It's always easier to lob when the ball is heading in direction of goal.

When the ball is bouncing in the direction of throw-in line, you have to factor in changing the angle and the elevation with one strike. That means hitting a sweet spot on your instep that would do both at the same time. All Havertz had to do was change the elevation, the angle was already in the direction of goal. Muani lobbing the keeper is not impossible but strikers are unlikely to take that option 7 times out of ten

Lobbing an already lobbed ball in the air require a lot of technicality from the striker.

Ballzproblem2:
I tell you the Kain PTSD our players suffer for that guy hand eh, back pass wey go dey put your defense on constant pressure Enzo will lead revolution for forward passe

Go check our possession for the past two seasons now, it mostly happened at the back with Jorg the master planner. People think 343 formation was the reason for that, smh. It’s high time some peeps here understand the difference between role and position in football.

Itsrm:
Jorginho don suffer

But it’s the truth na . We were under constant attack because of so many back pass and not able to beat press with one forward pass.

airmark:


Jorginho's upgrade.

https://i.imgflip.com/7eai3g.gif

Chalobah is used to Jorginho hence his pointing to the back.

airmark:
It was a cup-winning gift from the god of soccer.

With the level of the ball it is even more easier to lob the keeper compared to Havertz's own that need more technicality from the player.

airmark:
Stop stressing yourself.

Argentina's keeper was well off his line and not too close to Muani. Main reasons, it was feasible for him to lob as his best bet. Compare it with Mbappe's chance and see which is easier to execute. That's why Havertz attempt was more difficult as he had to calculatively kick it so the keeper won't stop it and the ball wouldn't miss the target. Don't forget that he did it, without the ball bouncing.

If Havertz had shot like Muani and missed, I wouldn't have blamed him because the chance of scoring wasn't as high as Muani's.


https://i.imgflip.com/76fs0c.gif

The guy even had the ball set properly for that and had all the time to do that compared to that of Havertz. But it is what it is.

ChristineC:
Taylor didn't swallow nothing. that guy is a criminal. he single handedly determines games. it's his mo.
the VAR also can be manipulated to show an angle that ensures a predetermined outcome.
the Casemiro first red is a classic example. the VAR angle showed a supposed violent grabbing of the neck, meanwhile another angle was a different thing entirely.
the Rashford penalty claim review on the VAR today showed a blatant dive, meanwhile another angle showed keeper knee to ankle contact.

When Rashford scored offside goal and guided the ball until Bruno strike you guys were happy.

This person is one of the people that watch Pogba keenly and not absurd take on nairaland due to sentiment and emotion. Jorg was my player but I saw his so many lapses that hinder my team so I don’t support a player simply because he play for Chelsea.

kokaneprodigy:
It took VAR to call the ref to order else he would have issued yellow for a red card offense.

Fcking cheats.

Their day of disgrace just like Barca is very close.

The English authority are covering it up because of SAF but I sha know one day they will do that, mostly when Scotland and England authority clash politically.

Ballzproblem2:
fofana will come Good

He lack that spark but let's see what happen in the future.

Ballzproblem2:
i don't man , watched a little clip seems raw to me like datro fofana and Santos , will need a bit of polishing

Im not really sold on Fofana though, he is like Bony to me.

Ballzproblem2:
Joe shields 😉and dujuan

These guys are not playing. He seem like a winger, more like Saka to me.

WhoDeyHause:
I think we need to sell kovacic or bring somebody that can play forward passes to compete with him. We need good end product not plenty activity.

But some person here support players like Jorg for playing side and back passes most of the time.

MorataFC:
actions speak louder than voice

No one said that, those guys bringing up Jorginho are anti chelsea waiting for Enzo to fail or trying to stir up comparison that’s not even there in the first place because Enzo is better than Jorginho.

Ballzproblem2:
also odoi that guy career tell hard

Yeah Odoi too.

Ballzproblem2:
🚨EXCL: Chelsea have reached a full agreement with Phoenix All Stars to sign wonderkid Dujuan ‘Whisper’ Richards [born in 2005]

The centre-forward will join after he turns 18 in November.

🔗 Nathan Gissing

boehly still cooking 😋, multi-club gonna hit like crack

The guy is a baller. Pulisc and Zyech will be going end of season to create space for him.

Ballzproblem2:
dribbling with contribution is useless imo no offense,I don't see anything special in kovacic he is another plain Midfielder to me

Yes not that I fancy Kova like that but he is still more useful than others aside Enzo and Kante.

NinjaMetahuman:
kovacic lack the vision and pass to be playing upfield.

Only Enzo has that prowess.

Enzo will still remain at the middle but moving vertically to create those chances when we are attacking or possessing the ball, it is what was expected from Jorginho under tuchel when he played three of them against top side but Jorg wasn’t interpreting the role well due to lack of strength and excess side and back passes with no meaningful progressive play from him, he was rarely spotting runs. Enzo the creator/midfield holder, Kante the destroyer and dazzling run when necessary while Kovacic the dribbler.

Ballzproblem2:
hensben you are truly a wise man

Yes na, we watch the game with our eyes and know the problem. Jorg is fragile with the ball and can’t hold his position very well without the ball/when defending is the reason Kante Jorg and kova wasn’t working against top side.

Roland17:
No be everything be agenda!

I am a Milan and Arsenal fan and would trolled Pogba whenever he played for United or Juventus. However, it did not stop me from acknowledging his talent, abilities and accomplishments as a player, especially when he plays for my Les Bleus.

This your rebuttal is too weak, it is more personal than what the facts say Dablord.

You said nothing new in what I have said before that he usually play well for France simply because of the likes of Kante and Matuidi that free him up to go everywhere since he is position-less. Same at Juve, the likes of Pirlo, Vidal and maschisio freed him up to go everywhere. Assign a disciplinary/tactical position for him and see him struggle and fail due to lack of discipline and laziness, most coaches detest such player, mostly a midfielder. Talent is not enough, it’s not a five aside football but professional where you are tasked by the coach to carry out instruction. It’s not hating, Pogba is done in top flight football simply because of what I am saying now. As midfielder gets older he is expected to be more tactically positioned and moved to that area.

Ballzproblem2:
Enzo Fernandez completed more passes (68/77), had more touches (93) and completed more accurate long balls (5/7) than any other Chelsea player against Leicester — reports MozoFootball 🔵 #CFC

…and what an assist!
@fabrizioromano

jorginho can never 😤,at just 21 Enzo has become one the greatest Midfield maestro ,make I see any jorginho fan here first

Are you aware with Enzo we can easily play kova Kante and him against top side and play well unlike with Jorg simply because Enzo can hold his side very well and possess the ball better and also can easily create chances, progressive one at that. Against top side Jorg usually play make e nor spoil for my hand type of football.

Ibime:
They should investigate Ovebro bank accounts too

karma must deal with Barca and their cohorts for the obvious rigging they did that night. And also, a time will come when Ferguson tenure at Man U will be investigated too, although UK government know how to shield their own but time will tell.

Roland17:
Teams built around Pogba throughout the peak of his career, same can not be said of Thiago. Pogba was easily the most important or 2nd on every team he played for. Outside of winning UCL which the WC trumps. Pogba has everything over Thiago.

Not true. Pogba was loud hence his rating, he was mostly inconsistent in the large part of his career. His impact to the game has been minimal, he was just a loud guy and overestimated himself to social media freaks.

Eazzii:
Oga nothing like pure cm.
Either you're a dlp or a b2b.

On the field of play Xavi was a CM, a dictator. Bousquet, rodri, pirlo, jorg are dlp. Understand football and stop being adamant.

Eazzii:
Is/was vidal a cm?

Vidal is a hard tackler and he can progress play too with passes. With the definition below, tell me if Vidal is not box to box midfielder. Xavi is a dictator and not a hard tackler hence I called him a pure CM. Kante is another box to box midfielder.

Jodera:
Na just new toy dey shack you.
See as you dey shout "watch Enzo for benfica" like say you watch am during his 6 months stint there. If no be WC, I guess most of you lots claiming Enzo likeness here wouldn't know him even at benfica.

Pogba overdid at Juventus did 10x what Enzo have done in either benfica or Chelsea so far. Even his below the expectation stint with Man u isn't that worse off in terms of skill or individuality.

He can play CDM yet Una still go switch to 343. Abeggi, no make me laugh


Thank God Pogba win WC, if not I trust Una to use "have Pogba won WC" to pass Una agenda

Where did I mention Benfica? I only watch one his game in ucl or so for Benfica and he was fantastic in that game and also shone at wc. I mostly watch players using eye test and rarely use team or individual achievement except when it’s been thrown in. I am only saying Pogba never reached his prime or the level he was hyped. Any decent player can shine in seria A, moreover he was been carried in midfield in that juve team by pirlo, Vidal and mashcisio, he didn’t have a defining role or saddled with responsibility. He was exposed at Man U as a CM or CDM, he couldn’t even interpret CAM or AMF that Man U had to go sign Bruno and later he was shipped out by a serious coach. All what I said about him is true.

FactsOnly.