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This Felix need to work on his final third for everything; if he is not shooting well he is not crossing well.

Ibime:
We are no customers to Real. Our head to head is better

4 wins, 2 draws and 1 loss only Vs Real

Leave them, they don’t even know history.

Tomorrow they will say pep built Halaand when we all know he was already better before Pep.

Jodera:
I didn't claim that he should be on our First 11. The Koko is that he gives forward passes unlike the criticism that he doesn't.

Once in a blue moon? Countless forward passes against Aston Villa, Everton and Man city must really be a blue moon

Countless? You are deluded then i don’t need to be engaging you.

Exonerate1:
Stop saying rubbish. The only person to blame for his recent injuries is kante himself and that's because he refused to change his playing style.

This was makélélé in 2017 way before we signed jorginho, advising him about it but he didn't listen.

You are a foo.l. Almost every player change their pattern of play when they are getting older. The fact that you have a pant in Jorg who claim to be CDM but not poor at defending and easily subdued that Kante have to do his job doesn’t mean it is Kante’s fault.

Jodera:
Lol... This is why they said you guys are too emotional when it comes to argument. Dem say bring facts, you tell am make him dey come arsenal.

I brought clips of Jorginho playing forward passes, you said I'm trolling

Which pass? The one he troll once in a blue moon. He didn’t bring any fact. What stopped Arteta from continue using him instead of a returned Partey. You want a top club like chelsea to continue using Jorg, someone that is not Arsenal’s first eleven.

swiz123:
Bring out Jorginho's stats and pair them against your favourite DMs and let's see if he is a back passer like you claim. Like always, when we want to factually verify your claims, we are all left more confused. Criticize Jorginho for his defensive ability but take that nonsense about passing back far away from here because if we start talking about it, you will immediately resort to your "trust me bro" wack analysis.

Bros, nothing concern you and football as you are known to have one of the most ridiculous takes here.

For your information, the arsenal fan asked those questions after which him with his team in 3 to 4 matches.

Again you don't know what you are saying. Follow your darling jorginho to Arsenal.

Jodera:
Oga, we bought him as a backup for Partey not to displace Partey and so far he's been doing that well.

Anything for agenda sha. So you expect Jorginho bought as a second choice for 12m to displace Partey, one of the best Dm in the league. Na wa ooo !!

So you want us to keep on using arsenal back up as first team player. Make it make sense.

swiz123:
Arguing with you makes no sense as you have strong disgust for facts and great love for that which you subjectively think it's true.

Stats suggest bodly that Jorginho isn't a back passer. Fact have bodly exposed you frauds here when an Arsenal fan came here and asked " how do you guys call Jorginho a back passer". Did Jorginho suddenly change within few days of moving to Arsenal?

Problem with this thread is herd mentality — a serious lack of independency of opinion.

Stat from an Arsenal fan who came to troll is what you call fact. You are the one talking rubbish here and everyone can not be wrong at the same time about Jorginho because we all watched him. Why didn’t Arteta continue playing him if he was that good. Potter said Enzo is fantastic that he progresses play from deep, you and I know he is shading Jorginho. Everyone can not be wrong about him. You don’t know football and stop being adamant to learning.

swiz123:
All these hypothetical scenarios weren't flying around when we couldn't score a single goal in many games but suddenly, we now have Andrea Pirlo after 3 narrow wins.

Stop of these imaginations and see that how a teams is set up tactically makes them score lots of goals, not because a particular player's style.

Let it go bro. Jorg na pant. We have been struggling due to injury to key players and you know this. Now that partey is back which other position or role can Jorg play for Arsenal and be effective aside DLP(not that he is offensively effective)? None. Enzo can impact the game in three positions/roles; DLP, CM and CAM same with Partey. Tuchel talked about the problem is there because we have same player and you and I know one of the player is Jorginho.

Ballzproblem2:
Jorginho Stan's milking this pass more than Disney is Milkimg star wars 😭

This was after his pass to Abraham a season ago. Meanwhile Enzo constantly and consistently throw this type of passes.

popizaino:
I don't miss Jorginho one bit.

Person wey I Dey vex for because him make my G Kante run himself down, mostly that ucl run we won, Kante over labored.

People that understand football. Everything is not hate just because they are not massaging egos.

These are people who watch football keenly.

Lana1:
So glad he's someone else's problem now

He plays too much, all due to lack of discipline.

Ibime:
What's the angle of the bounce?

You can't compare a ball bouncing horizontally to a ball heading in direction of goal

It's always easier to lob when the ball is heading in direction of goal.

When the ball is bouncing in the direction of throw-in line, you have to factor in changing the angle and the elevation with one strike. That means hitting a sweet spot on your instep that would do both at the same time. All Havertz had to do was change the elevation, the angle was already in the direction of goal. Muani lobbing the keeper is not impossible but strikers are unlikely to take that option 7 times out of ten

The angle even made it more easier for him to lob seeing that he is a right footer, it’s just for him to lob it with his inside foot.

Ibime:
What's the angle of the bounce?

You can't compare a ball bouncing horizontally to a ball heading in direction of goal

It's always easier to lob when the ball is heading in direction of goal.

When the ball is bouncing in the direction of throw-in line, you have to factor in changing the angle and the elevation with one strike. That means hitting a sweet spot on your instep that would do both at the same time. All Havertz had to do was change the elevation, the angle was already in the direction of goal. Muani lobbing the keeper is not impossible but strikers are unlikely to take that option 7 times out of ten

Lobbing an already lobbed ball in the air require a lot of technicality from the striker.

Ballzproblem2:
I tell you the Kain PTSD our players suffer for that guy hand eh, back pass wey go dey put your defense on constant pressure Enzo will lead revolution for forward passe

Go check our possession for the past two seasons now, it mostly happened at the back with Jorg the master planner. People think 343 formation was the reason for that, smh. It’s high time some peeps here understand the difference between role and position in football.

Itsrm:
Jorginho don suffer

But it’s the truth na . We were under constant attack because of so many back pass and not able to beat press with one forward pass.

airmark:


Jorginho's upgrade.

https://i.imgflip.com/7eai3g.gif

Chalobah is used to Jorginho hence his pointing to the back.

airmark:
It was a cup-winning gift from the god of soccer.

With the level of the ball it is even more easier to lob the keeper compared to Havertz's own that need more technicality from the player.

airmark:
Stop stressing yourself.

Argentina's keeper was well off his line and not too close to Muani. Main reasons, it was feasible for him to lob as his best bet. Compare it with Mbappe's chance and see which is easier to execute. That's why Havertz attempt was more difficult as he had to calculatively kick it so the keeper won't stop it and the ball wouldn't miss the target. Don't forget that he did it, without the ball bouncing.

If Havertz had shot like Muani and missed, I wouldn't have blamed him because the chance of scoring wasn't as high as Muani's.


https://i.imgflip.com/76fs0c.gif

The guy even had the ball set properly for that and had all the time to do that compared to that of Havertz. But it is what it is.

ChristineC:
Taylor didn't swallow nothing. that guy is a criminal. he single handedly determines games. it's his mo.
the VAR also can be manipulated to show an angle that ensures a predetermined outcome.
the Casemiro first red is a classic example. the VAR angle showed a supposed violent grabbing of the neck, meanwhile another angle was a different thing entirely.
the Rashford penalty claim review on the VAR today showed a blatant dive, meanwhile another angle showed keeper knee to ankle contact.

When Rashford scored offside goal and guided the ball until Bruno strike you guys were happy.

This person is one of the people that watch Pogba keenly and not absurd take on nairaland due to sentiment and emotion. Jorg was my player but I saw his so many lapses that hinder my team so I don’t support a player simply because he play for Chelsea.

kokaneprodigy:
It took VAR to call the ref to order else he would have issued yellow for a red card offense.

Fcking cheats.

Their day of disgrace just like Barca is very close.

The English authority are covering it up because of SAF but I sha know one day they will do that, mostly when Scotland and England authority clash politically.

Ballzproblem2:
fofana will come Good

He lack that spark but let's see what happen in the future.

Ballzproblem2:
i don't man , watched a little clip seems raw to me like datro fofana and Santos , will need a bit of polishing

Im not really sold on Fofana though, he is like Bony to me.

Ballzproblem2:
Joe shields 😉and dujuan

These guys are not playing. He seem like a winger, more like Saka to me.

WhoDeyHause:
I think we need to sell kovacic or bring somebody that can play forward passes to compete with him. We need good end product not plenty activity.

But some person here support players like Jorg for playing side and back passes most of the time.

MorataFC:
actions speak louder than voice

No one said that, those guys bringing up Jorginho are anti chelsea waiting for Enzo to fail or trying to stir up comparison that’s not even there in the first place because Enzo is better than Jorginho.

Ballzproblem2:
also odoi that guy career tell hard

Yeah Odoi too.

Ballzproblem2:
🚨EXCL: Chelsea have reached a full agreement with Phoenix All Stars to sign wonderkid Dujuan ‘Whisper’ Richards [born in 2005]

The centre-forward will join after he turns 18 in November.

🔗 Nathan Gissing

boehly still cooking 😋, multi-club gonna hit like crack

The guy is a baller. Pulisc and Zyech will be going end of season to create space for him.