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Ballzproblem2:
dribbling with contribution is useless imo no offense,I don't see anything special in kovacic he is another plain Midfielder to me

Yes not that I fancy Kova like that but he is still more useful than others aside Enzo and Kante.

NinjaMetahuman:
kovacic lack the vision and pass to be playing upfield.

Only Enzo has that prowess.

Enzo will still remain at the middle but moving vertically to create those chances when we are attacking or possessing the ball, it is what was expected from Jorginho under tuchel when he played three of them against top side but Jorg wasn’t interpreting the role well due to lack of strength and excess side and back passes with no meaningful progressive play from him, he was rarely spotting runs. Enzo the creator/midfield holder, Kante the destroyer and dazzling run when necessary while Kovacic the dribbler.

Ballzproblem2:
hensben you are truly a wise man

Yes na, we watch the game with our eyes and know the problem. Jorg is fragile with the ball and can’t hold his position very well without the ball/when defending is the reason Kante Jorg and kova wasn’t working against top side.

Roland17:
No be everything be agenda!

I am a Milan and Arsenal fan and would trolled Pogba whenever he played for United or Juventus. However, it did not stop me from acknowledging his talent, abilities and accomplishments as a player, especially when he plays for my Les Bleus.

This your rebuttal is too weak, it is more personal than what the facts say Dablord.

You said nothing new in what I have said before that he usually play well for France simply because of the likes of Kante and Matuidi that free him up to go everywhere since he is position-less. Same at Juve, the likes of Pirlo, Vidal and maschisio freed him up to go everywhere. Assign a disciplinary/tactical position for him and see him struggle and fail due to lack of discipline and laziness, most coaches detest such player, mostly a midfielder. Talent is not enough, it’s not a five aside football but professional where you are tasked by the coach to carry out instruction. It’s not hating, Pogba is done in top flight football simply because of what I am saying now. As midfielder gets older he is expected to be more tactically positioned and moved to that area.

Ballzproblem2:
Enzo Fernandez completed more passes (68/77), had more touches (93) and completed more accurate long balls (5/7) than any other Chelsea player against Leicester — reports MozoFootball 🔵 #CFC

…and what an assist!
@fabrizioromano

jorginho can never 😤,at just 21 Enzo has become one the greatest Midfield maestro ,make I see any jorginho fan here first

Are you aware with Enzo we can easily play kova Kante and him against top side and play well unlike with Jorg simply because Enzo can hold his side very well and possess the ball better and also can easily create chances, progressive one at that. Against top side Jorg usually play make e nor spoil for my hand type of football.

Ibime:
They should investigate Ovebro bank accounts too

karma must deal with Barca and their cohorts for the obvious rigging they did that night. And also, a time will come when Ferguson tenure at Man U will be investigated too, although UK government know how to shield their own but time will tell.

Roland17:
Teams built around Pogba throughout the peak of his career, same can not be said of Thiago. Pogba was easily the most important or 2nd on every team he played for. Outside of winning UCL which the WC trumps. Pogba has everything over Thiago.

Not true. Pogba was loud hence his rating, he was mostly inconsistent in the large part of his career. His impact to the game has been minimal, he was just a loud guy and overestimated himself to social media freaks.

Eazzii:
Oga nothing like pure cm.
Either you're a dlp or a b2b.

On the field of play Xavi was a CM, a dictator. Bousquet, rodri, pirlo, jorg are dlp. Understand football and stop being adamant.

Eazzii:
Is/was vidal a cm?

Vidal is a hard tackler and he can progress play too with passes. With the definition below, tell me if Vidal is not box to box midfielder. Xavi is a dictator and not a hard tackler hence I called him a pure CM. Kante is another box to box midfielder.

Jodera:
Na just new toy dey shack you.
See as you dey shout "watch Enzo for benfica" like say you watch am during his 6 months stint there. If no be WC, I guess most of you lots claiming Enzo likeness here wouldn't know him even at benfica.

Pogba overdid at Juventus did 10x what Enzo have done in either benfica or Chelsea so far. Even his below the expectation stint with Man u isn't that worse off in terms of skill or individuality.

He can play CDM yet Una still go switch to 343. Abeggi, no make me laugh


Thank God Pogba win WC, if not I trust Una to use "have Pogba won WC" to pass Una agenda

Where did I mention Benfica? I only watch one his game in ucl or so for Benfica and he was fantastic in that game and also shone at wc. I mostly watch players using eye test and rarely use team or individual achievement except when it’s been thrown in. I am only saying Pogba never reached his prime or the level he was hyped. Any decent player can shine in seria A, moreover he was been carried in midfield in that juve team by pirlo, Vidal and mashcisio, he didn’t have a defining role or saddled with responsibility. He was exposed at Man U as a CM or CDM, he couldn’t even interpret CAM or AMF that Man U had to go sign Bruno and later he was shipped out by a serious coach. All what I said about him is true.

FactsOnly.

andrewbaba44:
You should tell me his prime ,Not me telling you baba

So you agree he doesn’t have any prime, good.

andrewbaba44:
Hope you know pogba contributed largely to France World Cup win ,like everyone knows this.

Pogba also won the best young player at the 2014 fifa World Cup with a not so great france side ,same award enzo won recently

And yes enzo did so well at the World Cup

Pogba have made uefa team of the year ,even the fifa pro world xi ,even premier league team of the season while playing for a struggling Man U

Should we tall about him being one of the best midfielders in seria A?

Good. I know he has achieved all these and I ask you again when was his prime? What age did he has a run in the league or calendar year?

andrewbaba44:
You can analyze pogba performance at juve and Manchester United ,and here you are asking me when was pogba prime

If you can’t spill out his prime ,I won’t be the one to tell you

Better complete what you started

Do you even know the meaning of prime? We never witness Pogba’s peak is what I am saying, he has been inconsistent since his move to Man U.

andrewbaba44:
He haven’t not done what pogba has done in football

So calm down ,he hasn’t even complete 2 seasons at the top yet

What has Pogba done in football, he was just fortunate to come from France with abundant talent. Enzo won World Cup with not so great Argentina aside messi. Pogba is 29 or 30 so he has played more games that’s all.

andrewbaba44:
The funny thing about you and most shekpites is ,you never watched enzo aside some World Cup games before Chelsea paid huge fee for him

Once Chelsea paid huge fee for a player ,you begin to hype ,either he is good or not is none of your business

Look at how you are analyzing pogba and enzo ,you watch one at juve and Man U ,while you never watched the other aside from 4/5 World Cup games

I don’t need to watch zillion games to know a player bruv, I played the game of football in semi pro league and would’ve played professional football if not for injury and some other things, I was a midfielder so I know what I am saying when I tell you that Pogba is a luxury midfielder and lack discipline for a midfielder, he is inconsistent in performance too. I ask again when was Pogba’s prime? Does he even have one? He was hyped while at juve because of occasional goals and foot work. Ferguson sold him for a reason, same reason that made him unwanted his second spell for Man U.

andrewbaba44:
Pogba self don win World Cup nah

You should know I ain’t even talking about world cuo here

World Cup win or not mbappe is good bro ,I think he already commanded a 180 million euros transfer fee before winning the world cup

I’m not saying mbappe is not good I’m letting you know Enzo has done something for his age. You will agree with me that World Cup win popularize mbappe more.

andrewbaba44:
Person wey watch 70 percent of Korea japan 2002 World Cup never Dey follow football then ?

Hensben you do this one

Thats why I asked when you start to follow football, nor be insult.

andrewbaba44:
Enzo hasn’t done anything yet in football

It’s wise for you to wait for him to start doing something

He has done something for his age, he is a World Cup winner and was the young best player, same thing that skyrocketed mbappe’s value in world football.

Ballzproblem2:
you still dey answer those dummies who be Pogba 😆 mtcheww

Nor mind them. Which level Pogba reach sef, person wey media hype and hype until baba nor fit meet up with the hype again. He was another pr merchant player. That one Dey show long passes video like say Enzo nor get long passes for leg, is that the yardstick to know a complete midfielder, even goalkeepers Dey throw long passes.

andrewbaba44:
Enzo is not up to the level of pogba yet

Pogba wasn’t loud at juventus ,he was only loud at Manchester ,maybe because he feel like their biggest player there

My darling pep will take Jorginho over both players

it’s not about level but what you can do on the field of play. If I ask you now when was Pogba’s prime? Which level Pogba reach? Pogba was hyped while at juve as the next zidane, I nor sure say you don Dey follow football by then.

Btw, We are discussing Pogba and Enzo and not Jorginho so stay on topic. Pep will gladly choose Enzo over Pogba.

andrewbaba44:
Did you watch pogba at the 2018 World Cup ?

Everything you said here is opposite to what he was for the national team and juve

This is why I said he was good for juve and France because he was shielded with great CDM and CM. Leave him to be the main catalyst in midfield and see your team suffer. I was the first person that called him a showboating player when Man U signed him because I watched him while at Juve but Man U fan thought I was trolling but their eye clear later and they started calling him showboating player . It was during Pogba time at Man U unlock and padlock reign for this board or you forgot so soon.

Eazzii:
Is/was vidal a cm?

You can call him a CM too but he was a different type of midfielder compared to Xavi.

Eazzii:
See who understand ball. Buhahahahaha...

Yes Vidal was box to box midfielder or are you saying he wasn’t? What do you know. Nobody will watch vidal in his days and won’t agree with me that Vidal was a box to box midfielder. Do eye test on players to ascertain their pattern of play rather than focusing on line up on paper. I am not sure you can even identify a box to box midfielder and a pure central midfielder on the field of play.

andrewbaba44:
Kante has been world class from Leicester days

See as you destroy pogba ,lol

Yes Kante is a superior and dominant player yet humble. Pogba is loud but doing barest minimum for the team. Most coaches will choose Enzo ahead of Pogba in their team including your darling pep and I am not even capping. Enzo is calm, calculative, tactically discipline and dictating as a midfielder, whereas Pogba is opposite of all these.

andrewbaba44:
I don’t think pogba is useless in positioning

He is. He is just a fancy and showboating footballer that occasionally score and throw long passes to cover up his numerous sins of failing in his primary position. He is a liability in midfield, he can’t dictate play neither can he move the ball properly, he is worse without the ball. He either commit foul even when he try to tackle or leave his opponent.

A001:
Yea, lack of striker since your Potter na one of best coaches in the league. There's enough quality in the Chelsea team for any coach that knows his onion to win trophies with.

It's not until you buy all the players in the world that you start competing and winning trophies.

Chelsea has spent roughly 600 million pounds on players just this season alone, and you still dey find a striker with Potter as a coach.

You and all this your clueless takes.

Is it a striker that's our pressing need now or a good coach?

True, with the players we have we ought to be able to win ucl but potter is mid, he has to be changed before even thinking of signing another player.

andrewbaba44:
You can say pogba can be inconsistent most times and I will agree

But saying pogba useless in positioning ? Lol

Pogba is inconsistent and useless in positioning due to his tactical deficiency, everyone know this including some Man U fan who really understand football.

andrewbaba44:
Can we really categorize pogba as a man u flop ?

He flopped with the level of expectation from him. You see how Kante carry chelsea midfield that’s how to know a top dawg and not someone being hyped like zidane but playing below par. I repeat, tactically Pogba is a liability in midfield, if you understand football you will know what I am saying.

Ibime:
Pogba does not move or press like a midfielder

My words are final

Tell them, they don’t understand football aside he scores and throw long passes that even goalkeepers can throw.

andrewbaba44:
Sorry ,I got you wrong

Mourinho and conte will take pogba though

Mourhino take Pogba? Same mourhino that regretted signing him due to his tactical indiscipline. Are you aware mou wanted him to play same role Enzo is currently playing for Chelsea but he failed and couldn’t do jack. I repeat Pogba is the type of player you allow to go everywhere in midfield and then shield him with astute CDM and CM, this is why he excel at Juve and for France and then flopped at Man U, he doesn’t have a defining role and lazy too with or without the ball.

andrewbaba44:
Stop this nonsense

There is no Chelsea fan who love enzo more than I do ,but I will tell you for free thah enzo doesn’t comes close to pogba in anything

You can say enzo might be better than pogba in the nearest future ,that one will be ubferstable

Pogba is overrated ,because of his transfer fee ,and what should we talk about enzo ? Lol

Your footballing knowledge is too poor ,that’s how you said mount is better than Bruno fernandes

Who mentioned transfer fee. And I’m not saying Enzo is better than Pogba because they are not in same era. Im only analyzing their game play and I will prefer Enzo in my team than Pogba. What’s there not to understand.

Jodera:
So you didn't know you'll wait till 30 before you say Enzo is better than Pogba shey?

Same Enzo Una dey wait make Kante come before him really cook. That's the same Kante Pogba shone and won WC with.

Same Enzo wey Una midfield dey collect like wotowoto sotey Una switch to 343... The same formation shielding Jorginho is now used to shield Enzo.

Yet Enzo better pass Pogba. Una funny for here walahi

How are we collecting wotowoto since Enzo came? Moreover the team have been hit with injury, they are just returning now and the coach switch to his usual formation. I’m talking of Enzo’s overall performance so far and not just Chelsea that he came few weeks ago. No one is saying Kante is coming to unlock Enzo rather him playing CDM is limiting his offensive prowess because he is instructed to sit in front of the defense, can Pogba play CDM if at all, but Enzo can play CDM, CM and CAM perfectly, go watch him at Benfica and the just concluded wc. Did Pogba won his individual awards in one season or during the cause of many seasons hence my point that when Enzo get to 30 before we will compare their individual honors or you compare them with when Pogba was 21. I watched Pogba keenly from his juve days, he has been a roaming midfielder that doesn’t have a defining role due to his tactical indiscipline, he is a luxury player.