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Dtruthspeaker:
And His Judgements shows that iHe would Always destroy the evil people.

That exodus quote was God stopping Moses from being stupid in laying himself in deaths way to prevent death upon an evil people, which was why God answered him that way.

Sure, it is only evil people God destroys.

Kobojunkie:
Again, there is no devil luring men . There is the wickedness in the hearts of men aka the devil.

Who made David do census against God's will. Who made Judas betray Jesus. Who made Ananias and Sapphira lie to the Holy Ghost. Who puts men in captivity or prisons so that they will find it difficult to be saved. Just watch some videos of APostle Joshua Selman on Youtube and you will be fine.

Righteousness2:
Do you at all understand the Scriptures you quoted? Or what do you understand from the Scriptures u quoted?

The verse is plain, God saves who he wants to save and destroy who he wants to destroy because He is the Potter and it does not matter how willing or striving one wants to be saved.

Kobojunkie:
I am afraid you are wrong. Jesus Christ said what causes men to sin comes from that they have stored up in their hearts - lies which are against God's Truth. And when one has lies stored up in one's heart. It means one is of the devil and not of God.

Yes the heart of men is desperately wicked but there is the Devil. He lures one into captivity through his schemes.

FatherOfJesus:
Both God and Satan are constructs by Christians.
They have provided no evidence for this construct since 2000years ago

Lol. I bet you will change this statement afterwards er death and on Judgment day. Lol

Kobojunkie:
Stop cooking up lies to deceive people with abeg!

1. The devil was never a righteous Angel .. nowhere in Scripture is that bullsheet to be found. And what is with the foolish vow that he will never end up in hell? Stop confusing the stuff you see on TV with scripture abeg!

2. The one who is the devil lives in the hearts of men. In Jeremiah 17 vs 5 - 11, God warns of the wickedness of the hearts of men, pointing out what many already are aware of which is that in order to eliminate evil you must eliminate all men - it's the only way.

Devil does not live in the hearts of men ooo. He only entice man to yield to the wickedness in his heart.

khadaffi:
Oga relax your mind and calm down. There is no Devil anywhere All those are man made shit to scare kids and the foolish to fall in line. No evidence of him existing. No one has seen him. It's all cooked up bullshit

I have seen him. He is real ooo. Only God grace and divine understanding of God's word can make one overcome Him.

Though there may be a criteria for God hardening a person's heart may be pride or foolishness. Am a man ooo, just guessing. All i know is a proud or foolish person cannot be granted understanding from God.

Righteousness2:
GOD will not Dump anyone in Hell.
The Choice we make determines where we will be in Eternity.

GOD ALMIGHTY has shown us the way to Heaven and Hell.
He has shown us the path to Narrow and Broadway.
HE has shown us the way to Life and Death.
HE will not force HIS way on us.

The Way of Life and Heaven is Only available through JESUS Christ. Surrendering our lives and ALL to HIM, and living to please HIM.

The way of Death and Hell is to do otherwise. The way of Death and Hell is live as you like! Live in your own wisdom, Refuse JESUS, Live in Sin and anyway u want.

DADDY will not Force HIS on anyone , but the Choice you make will send you where you belong.

Yes is a choice, but this verse speaks a lot and many deny it "For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy. For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth. Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.
Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will? Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:"

Sleekfingers:
Thrash.....some people just like to dey deceive themselves...

Peter obi that won't even get the presidential ticket........even if he get it. He can't win......

peter ob, i the Twitter president

If he gets it, APC wins automatically and getting chance is like 10%. Elections are not the won on social media.

seunmsg:
The lying machine who has no verifiable achievements for his 8 years tenure as governor and his deluded supporters who think elections are won in Twitter

E go shock them, his chances of winning the primary is slim

Gben5:
bro na lie you lie for this your comments God's ways no be way of man....watin u mean burning in will not move him... bro na lie you lie for this your comments God's ways no be way of man....watin u mean by burning in hell fire will not move him...

Okay it moves him, he shed tears and they remain suffering until judgment day when the suffering will be stronger and it is for everlasting, that means after 2 billion years they have not yet started. See God, Jesus are not humans, they may be moved by people going to hell, might even shed many tears but they are okay with it. I know someone who God told he created him to be destroyed, the person even saw tears fall from the eyes of God, yet did that change God's mind. My brother the only hope for a person is God showing him mercy because he wants to show him mercy. Nothing more

Ayesolve:
My name is Ayebagbalinyo Opuene, I am 25years old. From BAYELSA STATE.
I had an encounter with a man of God in a dream. Before then , I don't use to go-to church often (not committed in serving God).
I attend Salvation Ministries,
I go church once or twice in a three months.

I had this encounter in year 2020 during the Lock down period (corona virus pandemic period). I am student in the university of Calabar, so due to the lock down we went for break. Even during that period I don't pray or do go to church.

If I can remember in the month of MAY, me and my younger brother were discussing in our boys room after that I wept off.

Then I saw myself walking all of a suden I saw Pastor David Ibiyeomie (G.O of Salvation Ministries) from afar and I ran after Him, He was in my community in the dream, he was (Pastor David Ibiyeomie) about to enter into a super market, before I could reach Him, he as already entered into the supermarket. so I shouted papa papa I have written a song on one of the messages you preached.
He turned and look at me and throw money to me and said that I should pick up the money, all I was shouting was " papa papa I have written a song on one of the messages you preached". Then He (Pastor David Ibiyeomie) Look at my face and said to me "YOU SHALL MAKE IT" He asked me to say AMEN to it.
As I said Amen to what He said. The phase of the dream changed.
I saw myself walking down the street with His Wife (MRS PEACE IBIYEOMIE). She was asking now that you have written the songs what are you going to do with them, As I was about to reply Her, I now woke up from my sleep.

I was surprised to see A man of God in my dream and His Wife in thesame dream, Me that is not even going to church often.
To be honest I prayed about the dream I had (for a long time I have not prayed like that)

Something in me was disturbing and telling me that This dream is not ordinary.

So I went to the backyard of our house and I prayed to God that "if this dream is from you give me a song" before the dream I have written only one song. and I was not that serious with it.
After I prayed that prayed to my greatest surprise "I got two new songs from that very instant".
From that day till now I am getting songs at ease. I have gotten over 200 (Two Hundred) gospel songs.

But I have not recorded any in a music studio which makes me feel discouraged anytime I got a new song.

I tried to stop writing songs due to no sponsor but Anytime I try to stop I don't have this peace of mind.

Please have you had a similar case Like me and how do you handled it

Start singing them and posting them on Social media Tittok, Facebook, YouTube, Instagram.

Guderian:
2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

If its not God'S word then u can tear it out

Lol and God will tear suchperson name from His Book of life

rightdata:
Many Christians in religious countries and not so religious countries are still in poverty. What do you think is the reason for this? Let's talk.

The reason is clear, faithful saints have one major characteristics They are not eager to make money.
Psalm 16:2-4
O my soul, thou hast said unto the LORD,
Thou art my Lord:
my goodness extendeth not to thee;
But to the saints that are in the earth,
and to the excellent, in whom is all my delight.
Their sorrows shall be multiplied that hasten after another god:
their drink offerings of blood will I not offer,
nor take up their names into my lips.
Though there are other saints that God bless even though they are not eager for money.

Kobojunkie:
1. Jesus Christ is God's Law... the same Law that we will be judged by as is explained in Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46. So, it is a not accurate to assign attributes such as "gentle" or "wrathful" to a Law or Contract but to the one whose Law it is.

2. Jesus Christ is God's Law so when we are forgiven, it is God's forgiveness, and when we are judged and condemned by the Law, it is also God's judgment and wrath we face..... not Jesus Christ's.

When the Law is said to be kind, it is God's kindness that we receive. Jesus Christ made this known to His followers that that which He teaches them is not from Him but directly from the Father.

3. What the early Christians know of is not a wrathful Jesus Christ but instead what Jesus Christ taught to them of who He is.

if you believe Jesus is full of kindness and God is full of wrath, you are making a mistake. God is the One that gave Jesus as a sacrificial lamb for us, that alone means God is full of kindness. Jesus too is full of kindness but both of them have wrath. The main reason i am saying this is anyone who does not obey Jesus does not obey God and Jesus only loves those who obey Him so it is clear he hates those who dont obey Him. He said plainly in Proverbs He that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul, all those that hate me love death. That verse seems harsh eh. Well wait for him to judge on Judgment day then you will know what it means by harshness. Jesus is not wrathful is what makes most of us Christians disobey Him but deep inside He is a Swift Judge. if you have any instructions from Him, dont play with it ooo, the Jesus today preachers are preaching about is not only meek but also the Lion of the tribe of Judah.

Kobojunkie:
In Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46, Jesus Christ Himself explained all that as a judge passing judgment on the goats.

So, the wrathful image sounds indeed like overkill there since it isn't as though the goats are an army united that He has to fight and destroy.

Believers today have been made to understand that Jesus is so gentle, he forgives, intercedes and we forget Jesus according to Paul in Romans 8. Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ who is risen at the right hand of God. Anyhow Jesus is also God. What did David say in Psalms 2 vs 12. Kiss the Son lest you perish from the way when his wrath is kindled a little. Jesus can be kind, but he is not someone to be played with. Early Christians and those practicing core Christianity knows this. Though God the Father is dreadful when it comes to w rath.

Icumsa45:
Gladly in support, many ladies are beginning to dress like harlots in these present times.

Some of them claim they are decent inside. Well let God judge, wetin I Sabi

Kobojunkie:
1. Jesus Christ destroys what?

2. Where in scripture did you obtain this claim from please?

3. In deed through Him were all things created, after all He is the Word out of God's own mouth, but that doesn't mean the idea came from Him.

4. Jesus Christ Himself did all the separating from God Himself. He told us everything to help us understand that though He, Jesus Christ, is God, God is not Jesus and God Christ. So, are you saying you don't believe everything Jesus Christ said?

Who in Revelations 19 is going to tread the wine press of the wrath of God. JESUS. Who is going to strike through kings in the day of his wrath. JESUS. Who in 2 thessalonians 1 will destroy men with everlasting destruction. JESUS. So Jesus destroys wella. Jesus is God the Son and God is God the Father and they are One. THEY DO THINGS TOGETHER.

Kobojunkie:
Strange conclusion you make there.

According to Scripture Jesus Christ is God, but Nowhere in Scripture are we informed that God is Jesus Christ though.

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In Scripture we learn of God the following
▪︎ God is God of Wrath
▪︎ God is God of Laws
▪︎ God is Good/Righteous
▪︎ God is Faithful
▪︎ God is True
▪︎ God is Life

And of Jesus Christ, we are informed by Him that He is
▪︎ God's Truth
▪︎ God's Life
▪︎ God's Law (one of many) aka The Way

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From all of the above, it seems your conclusion is not based on scriptural fact, I am afraid. Jesus Christ is indeed made from the same essence that is God but God is not Jesus Christ.

God gives life, Jesus gives life, God judges, Jesus judges, God commands Jesus commands, God destroys, Jesus destroys. All the fierce judgmentsof God were written by Jesus. At least Jesus told me "He created pain". You can't separate Jesus and God though Jesus sits on a stool beside God's high throne. The only thing is Jesus is compassionate to a high degree but God is a God of Judgment and extremely dreadful.

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ in wrath form? Why would Jesus Christ exude wrath abeg?

Jesus is GOD. They are the same. And Jesus has wrath oooo, Jesus destroys, God destroys. His wrath form is his face fierce and bald hair, you will know he is not joking.

Danhumprey:
The Bible did said that God knows the ways of man and even determines his (man) steps.
That pretty screams determination to me.

Not only that, he also controls man to choose his path either destruction or life. Nobody becomes saved because they wanted to be saved but God saved people because he wanted them to be saved. I know someone that God told him, he created him to be destroyed, the person thought it was the voice of satan. We are generally hopeless in God's sight no wonder David said "he knows our frame that we are dust". and about watching people burn in hell, to me God is not a human being, a Spirit that has lived since infinity, has all power, wisdom, knowledge and understanding, seen everything from infinity to infinity so watching people burn in hell for their tresspasses will surely not move him. He cant be moved by people suffering, everyone has a CHOICE but Everyone answer is from God

I have seen Jesus in his wrath form and in his baby form. And i am the least spiritual or carnal person. Seeing Jesus thousands of times doesnt make one Spiritual. What makes one spiritual is understanding judgment or the ways of God, this is the true spirituality.

SultanOfPuna:
The amount of Pastors that will go to Hell
will be 100x more

Trust me, 90% of hell will be fiilled with Pastors
90% of heaven will be filled with people with good heart.

Heaven no send any man made Abrahamic religion or doctrines.
Heaven no dey look your apperance
Heaven only looks at what is in your heart.
If you like dress like Pope and Rev. Sisters
When you die God will judge not by your apperance but by how good your heart is.

Africans love to judge based on appearance
Thats why we have many Wolves in Sheep Clothing.
A wolf can dress as a sheep
If you jugde by appearance you will think its a sheep. Until it attacks u

Thats why Jesus said dont JUDGE
Only God can judge, man's judgement is useless.

The pastor did the right thing, God judges by the intent and the motives of the heart. Those ladies also choosed those dresses by their heart desire.

Lol. Can 1.5m cure all these diseases. The author of this thread suppose include am.

MrPresident1:
2 Thessalonians 2:7 -12
For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

The way NIV Bible interprets vs 9 to 12 is very simple. I am not approving the NIV Bible but we must use every means at our disposal to learn more about the God and his thoughts. NIV Bible is not for strong meat eaters or bone crushers. It is not a primary tool or weapon for workmen, soldiers, warriors, and students of Bible prophecy

2 Thessalonians 2:7-12
New International Version
7 For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way.
8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming.
9 The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with how Satan works. He will use all sorts of displays of power through signs and wonders that serve the lie,
10 and all the ways that wickedness deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved.
11 For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie
12 and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.

Satan will not go down alone, he is going down with the people he has deceived through displays of power signs and lying wonders. He is using the deceivableness and subtlety and wickedness of unrighteousness to hold them captive to follow him to his eternal destruction, and this is with their full acquiescence because these people have been deceived because they do not love the truth that it might save them. So because of their refusal to accept the truth and repent and be saved, God himself has sent them strong delusions so that they will continue to believe the lie.

They continue to refuse to believe or accept the truth they they might be saved. They have pleasure in unrighteousness and continue to delight in wickedness. Their continuance in unrighteousness and wickedness is their condemnation and damnation

The wicked is not the same as the antiChrist. Let say the antiChrist has physical power but the wicked has spiritual power.

God says I will punish the world for their evil and the wicked for their iniquity. Does this mean the wicked have iniquity in them just like Satan. And what does this iniquity mean.

Tareq1105:
From the interview of gov Bala of Bauchi state on channels TV with Seun okinbaloye this evening, I tell you the contestants from the south PDP should forget it.

Please can you summarize what he said though I have always knew North will never support igbo

peggywebbs:
Oh okay.. well if it's what I think that you're talking about, it's like a thought at the back of your mind.

You can't get demonic doctrines from the Bible because it's the word of God. However if it's seducing spirits, are like that voice behind your mind making you think certain ways, you need deliverance.

I'll tell you to meet your pastor, priest or deliverance minister. Its possibly there's an entity around you. Most times demons get into people's lives even if they are born again, but are in sin. Sin gives them an open license to reside in people.

You'll have to cleanse yourself of all sins, or if there's a particular sin, that's nagging your mind that you probably know was really bad. It could be you went to a very bad place or touched something unholy, and sinister. Anyway, you'll need help with it, so meet a deliverance minister. If you're feeling there's something around you that is different from your mind, its definitely demonic manipulation.

Thanks

CaptMarvel:
what Sons of God to be revealed do you talk about.?

Sons of God are those led by the Spirit. They are the same as the end time army. Dr dk olukoya said they will have a voice this year in his 34 prophecies for this year.

peggywebbs:
I'm trying to understand what you're saying. Can you expand on your question.

Are you hearing voices? Or is something talking to you or telling you to do something?

No like unconsciously without hearing voices but learning demon doctrines from the Bible.