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stillwater:
Yes you will never worship a killer, am I forcing you to do so? Though it gives you much pleasure to sacrifice a child, are you ritualist?

Still I dont worship your killer God because I dont want to,so you CANNOT force me to worship your killer.
Go to read your Bible maybe you will find some new ideas of CRIME in it.
I dont read the Bible,I dont like Horrors stories

stillwater:
I've aready watched it Mr Horus, it was just another confused black man with the map of Africa on his shirt talking.

What wrong with Africa?.At least the man on the video is not Off Topic,and know what he is talking but you still dont know what a hell is the subject of this tread,who is confuse?

stillwater:
Shout all you want, beat your chest, even pound your head on the wall to show your disgust, you Mr Horus have sacrificed a child for your childish tantrums

No i dont have to shout ,beat my chest and pound my head on any wall like all Christians do all the time ,because it is YOUR GOD[/B] WHO have [b]sacrificed an inocent child just to show that he is a killer. It is in Your Bible.I will never worship a killer.

YOU are deceiving yourself,first you are OFF TOPIC,secondly watch the video to follow the subect of the topic.Christians like you are mixing all subjects,
This topic is:What Can Be Said To Be Definitely Known About Jesus?
Read first The suject of the topic and,post AFTER.

stillwater:
Yes you are not Japhthah but you are Mr. Horus who has sacrificed a child for your childish whinings!!!!!!!

I am NOT Japhthah  and it is your killer God who clearly indicated his APPROVAL and ACCEPTANCE for the Human Sacrifice of an innocent child by a Christian in YOUR Bible.God killer that you worship.

therationa:
What do we know (or have) about the Jesus story that have all the hallmarks of historical verifiability and authenticity? Is there anything about which there is no dispute but rather unanumous agreement as historical facts?

This short video talk about[b]:Did the people of the bible really exist?
Video:[/b] http://youtube.com/watch?v=H-iew1Gq-mE

If it is possible for you Christians to be a literal believer in the Bible,then you Christians should be able to explain to us How a serpent can talk?

Genesis 3:1:: King James Version (KJV) - “Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And[b] he said [/b]unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?”

“. . . And he (the serpent) said unto the woman . . .What Christians do not realise is that There are no species of snake that can speak, and no species of reptile have a larynx in order to hold a conversation.

Wordsmith:
LMAO @ the visually impaired Horus. Go back and read that dumb post of yours, i'm not going to fetch any of your oft retarded posts.


Oh, lest i forget. . .you are still a hypocrite

The hypocrite is you,Why are you Unable to use a QUOTE of this so called post?
Where is the QUOTE?
Use a quote of My post and show us

firestar:
''The shape of the [two-beamed cross] had its origin in ancient Chaldea, and was used as the symbol of the god Tammuz (being in the shape of the mystic Tau, the intial of his name) in that country and in adjacent lands, including Egypt. By the middle of the 3rd cent. A.D. the churches had either departed from, or had travestied, certain doctrines of the Christian faith. In order to increase the prestige of the apostate ecclesiastical system pagans were received into the churches apart from regeneration by faith, and were permitted largely to retain their pagan signs and symbols. Hence the Tau or T, in its most frequent form, with the cross-piece lowered, was adopted to stand for the cross of Christ.'' -An Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words (London, 1962), W. E. Vine, p. 256.

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@Horus
What most So-called christians never realized is the fact that veneration of the cross or any carved image(s)  is a form of idolatry.

Christians are indeed idols whorshipers.

uchetobi:
what does it matter? tree or cross?

Yes it matter!!.Can you imagine,now  all christians will have a reason to have a tree hanging from their necks or on top of the church roof instead of a cross

bawomolo:
i thought God told u not to judge?

Christians like to judge,in fact Christians are sinners who call other people sinners

I can tell you authoritatively that Jesus was hung on a tree.

Maybe this Jesus simply growed on a tree .This Jesus was a Bad fruit

ibksolar:
@ just cool
Brother,
I would Love to say that this is the beauty of Salvation.To believe in this truth that JESUS came to die for my sins and he had already done that ,

You are clearly[b] Off Topic.[/b]If your Jesus already came to save you and remove all your sin, then why are you still waiting for him to return, and why are you still sinning?

I am not Japhthah and it is your killer God who clearly indicated his APPROVAL and ACCEPTANCE for the Human Sacrifice of an innocent child.

However your God clearly indicated his APPROVAL and ACCEPTANCE of the vow when he gave Jephthah victory over the Ammonites, which is what he asked God to do in exchange for his "sacrifice"!  In other words, your God agreed, accepted and approved this!.[B]This can be found in your Bible [/b],go and check it by yourself!!

gay Bashers fear Self !!. [/b]A man should not be intimidated by a homosexual. By that I mean, those people who set out to preach “fire and brimstone,” the beating and harassing of homosexuals and lesbians, in most cases are people that fear for a dormant personality that might come forth from themselves. If you are sure about your manhood or womanhood, then [b]you should have no fear of socializing or befriending a person with different sexual preferences than you. The very fear is a confession that if you were to socialize with a homosexual or lesbian you’re afraid you might become a homosexual or a lesbian. I don’t care whether you’re a Reverend this or Pastor that, or Imam this or Sheik that or even a Rabbi. All of these people go home to loved ones and have classified their sexual activity lawful, righteous, upright and pure. Anyone who does not follow their personal instructions sexually, is a pervert or a freak or whatever other name they can come up with. When in actuality, the strictness that the M'uslim has in sex restricts them to one position and for one reason - reproduction. However, when it comes to the Jewish population you’ll find it very strange if you do any research that they have sexual intercourse through a sheet, never looking at their partner. Then Christians accept everything in sexual activity except homosexuality and lesbianism, which all of the above call sodomy. They have given the word their meaning when in actuality the word simply means, “burning” and has nothing to do with burning people for sexual practices. Nowhere in the bible does it tell them who named the city Sodom or who it was named after. If you were to read these books, SEX AND THE BIBLE by Gerald Laure and The X-RATED BIBLE by Ben Edward Akerly,  you would be amazed at some of the things that the Prophets did in the bible. If it were today, they would be put in jail for indecent exposure or rape. Then if you read the Talmud of the Jews, you’d find that it condones sex with little boys. If you studied the history of I'slam you’d find the Prophet M'uhammad took a wife named 'Aisha, the daughter of Abu Baker. When she was only 9 years old and he consummated that marriage, which means had sex with her when she was only 11 years old and he was age 50. So if you look at the people in the religious world today, we’re talking about the Jews of the Torah, the Christians of the New Testament, and the M'uslims of the K'oran.[b] These people have skeletons in their closets. I mean skeletons the size of dinosaur bones. [/b]Yet they, the religious people set out to breed violence and segregation against a group of human beings with a different sexual preference.

If your Jesus already came to save you and remove all your sin, then why are you still waiting for him to return, and why are you still sinning?

Church leaders accept tithes in the name of God. They'll say “God needs your help building the church, ” What does god need with a multi-million dollar church?Nothing. These are the same so-called church leaders that you'll find riding in fancy cars, eating the best foods, living in expensive homes and living the life of wealthy people while their followers scrape and struggle to do “God's will” by tithing. These so-called leaders will lead congregations in the worse of the worse neighborhoods and on their way to church to preach on Sundays or Saturdays or whatever day they declare to be the Sabbath, they will step over the homeless or the less fortunate

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The story of Jephthah who makes an odd vow to kill his own daughter can be found in your Bible.

Yeah the worship of an Alien Dead white man,a Ghost !!

[quote author=K-OLA link=topic=114682.msg1982910#msg1982910 date=1203626629]A church should:
1-Close
2-Stay closed
3-Never reopen

That's interesting, why would you want them gone? Do you think they don't make an contributions to the society?[/quote]They contribute to the division in society.The churches, are all competing against one another. There are churches who are of the same denomination, in the same town, the same diocese, which mean they have the same beliefs and worship the same God. Yet, they never come together. What is so ironic is that these churchgoers all feel that church is the place for unification and love.

jagunlabi:
Good question.
The simple answer is; BRAINWASHING.
And that is not only in religion,but in almost all facets of life africans are being turned against themselves.
We're a race of properly screwed up people with zero selfesteem.

Those who speak to us of Christian or I'slamic morals have often been the very ones who had defiled our ancestors' memories and called out sacred rites paganism. Malcolm X once said that the world pushes the African around because we give the impression that we are chumps, not champs, but chumps, weaklings, falling over ourselves to follow other people rather than our own traditions.

[quote author=K-OLA link=topic=114682.msg1982505#msg1982505 date=1203619776]WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR IN A CHURCH?

Please list 3 things a church should do for you?

Thanks ans take care!!![/quote]A church should:
1-Close
2-Stay closed
3-Never reopen

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Would God approve of a vow to kill one’s own daughter?

Here is an odd and tragic story, and what is odd about it is that God seems to approve of it too.  Here a man named Jephthah makes an odd vow to kill his own daughter in exchange for victory in battle, and God actually accepts his proposal!  But before you read it, keep something in mind.  Christians will say that this was Jephthah's fault and that God didn't command him to make his vow.  However God clearly indicated his APPROVAL and ACCEPTANCE of the vow when he gave Jephthah victory over the Ammonites, which is what he asked God to do in exchange for his "sacrifice"!  In other words, God agreed, accepted and approved this!   

Judges 11:29-39 (English-NIV)

29

Then the Spirit of the LORD came upon Jephthah. He crossed Gilead and Manasseh, passed through Mizpah of Gilead, and from there he advanced against the Ammonites.

30

And Jephthah made a vow to the LORD: "If you give the Ammonites into my hands,

31

whatever comes out of the door of my house to meet me when I return in triumph from the Ammonites will be the LORD's, and I will sacrifice it as a burnt offering."

32

Then Jephthah went over to fight the Ammonites, and the LORD gave them into his hands.

33

He devastated twenty towns from Aroer to the vicinity of Minnith, as far as Abel Keramim. Thus Israel subdued Ammon.

34

When Jephthah returned to his home in Mizpah, who should come out to meet him but his daughter, dancing to the sound of tambourines! She was an only child. Except for her he had neither son nor daughter.

35

When he saw her, he tore his clothes and cried, "Oh! My daughter! You have made me miserable and wretched, because I have made a vow to the LORD that I cannot break."

36

"My father," she replied, "you have given your word to the LORD. Do to me just as you promised, now that the LORD has avenged you of your enemies, the Ammonites.

37

But grant me this one request," she said. "Give me two months to roam the hills and weep with my friends, because I will never marry."

38

"You may go," he said. And he let her go for two months. She and the girls went into the hills and wept because she would never marry.

39

After the two months, she returned to her father and he did to her as he had vowed. And she was a virgin. From this comes the Israelite custom

kola oloye:
@Horus,
PLEASE DON`T DEVIATE . IF YOU HAVE A SOLID REASON WHY TITHE MUST NOT BE PAID
JUST COME WITH YOUR PROOFS. THIS THREAD IS A SERIOUS MATTER PLEEEASE.

It is YOU who deviate.I am serious.take your own bible and go to:Matthew 10:8-10:
“Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give. Provide neither gold, nor silver, nor brass in your purses, nor scrip for your journey, neither two coats, neither shoes, nor yet staves: for the workman is worthy of his meat.”

Dont give your money to your greedy pastor.Jesus never took from his congregation. He never passed around a basket or tray to receive pledges and donations at the end of each sermon. He never asked for a payment. Nor did he ever tell his disciples to accept money for their assistance as found in Matthew 10:8-10:
“Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give. Provide neither gold, nor silver, nor brass in your purses, nor scrip for your journey, neither two coats, neither shoes, nor yet staves: for the workman is worthy of his meat.”

Tomorrow's Cuba: After Castro and the U.S. Election

If you kept a scrapbook on Fidel Castro from the day when his little group of revolutionaries overthrew Cuban dictator Fulgencio Batista in 1959, you would have had to begin renting storage space about midway through his political hegemony. No contemporary world leader has ever attracted so much criticism and blame as Fidel. Of course, no contemporary political leader has ever stuck around as long as he did. His rule spans the tenure of nine U.S. presidents and 10 Canadian prime ministers. But for all of the shouting, the relationship between Cuba, the U.S. and Canada has been frozen in time. Now with the exit of Castro combined with the possibility of a Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton White House, a thaw may be in sight. In South Florida, home of the rapidly aging but still powerful anti-Castro political lobby, Fidel remains a virtual industry. In Washington, where successive American governments have allowed themselves to support the politically expedient but inept policy of an embargo against Cuba, he has been raised to the symbolic status of democracy's Public Enemy Number One while anti-Castroism has been raised to the level of an ideology. It is said that American foreign service officers who do not toe the official line are relegated to stamping visas into passports. On the other hand, the devastating effects of globalism and so-called structural adjustment packages in Latin America over the past two decades have raised a new crop of Latin America leaders who–as black and white Castro apologists–are quick to praise the good parts of the Cuban revolution. And Washington shouldn't kid itself that there aren't plenty of good sides to Castro's Cuba. Compared to other Latin American, and especially Caribbean, nations that are sadly without health care, education and even basic personal security, Cuba earns fair bragging rights. Castro's political control will not be missed by any Cuban who was unfairly bossed around for cold ideological reasons, ratted on by neighbourhood spies, censured and imprisoned for arguing with the leader's policies, or simply not allowed to succeed because politics were more important than merit. But compared to the lives of the poorest citizens in countless other regimes where the leadership has been ostensibly "freedom-loving," Castro's Cuba positively glows with success. That's a hard pill for any democrat to swallow. Ultimately, the prop that has kept the worst of Castro's politics alive while starving the Cuban economy of hard currency and economic development has been the U.S. embargo, which the Cubans like to call "the blockade." To date, no American president has had the courage to buck the anti-Castro lobby by dumping the embargo in the garbage bin where it has always belonged. This is where Castro's resignation and the American presidential election make things interesting. Sure, all candidates live in fear of the anti-Castro vote in the important swing state of Florida. McCain, who says he wants Raúl Castro tried for murder, trembles the most. But Obama and Clinton both hint–no, let's say whisper, for they, too, quake in the shadow of the south Florida lobby–that the embargo could fall after Castro's departure and some signs of Cuban reform. Canada, whose foreign policy has never been so blind as to support the embargo, can now welcome the probable and transitionary team of the ageing Raúl Castro Ruz and the more youthful Felipe Pérez Roque. By having an intimacy with Havana not available to Washington, Canada can support the kinds of reforms that it knows are possible within a one-party state. But the fact remains that the most meaningful reform for Cuba is the lifting of the U.S. embargo. We don't have much hope for McCain, but we can hope that Obama or Clinton will find the courage–and the good sense–to do that.

Source: http://www.embassymag.ca/html/index.php?display=story&full_path=/2008/february/20/editorial/

samsonola:
Christians claimed that a Jesus Chist(AS) was crucified on a cross and yet they keep a symbol of this cross on their necks,in churches in their homes etc. It baffles me.This means that if the same Jesus had been hanged ,then that loop would have been an object of great adoration. It does not make sense,please enlighten me anyone

I agree with you,why this Cross?.Just think; suppose Jesus had been killed with a shotgun, would this be any reason to have a shotgun hanging from our necks or on top of the church roof? It comes down to this: the important thing is not what, but who – who it was that (allegedly) died, not what the instrument of death was.

Genesis 3:1:: King James Version (KJV) - “Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?”

“. . . And he (the serpent) said unto the woman . . .What Christians do not realise is that[b] There are no species of snake that can speak, and no species of reptile have a larynx in order to hold a conversation[/b].