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The[b] tithe scam[/b] has given rise to the proliferation of Churches today and most appalling of all is that the proliferation of Churches has in turn given rise to "Social Crimes" in the name of God. Example of this could be seen in the manner Christians are converting Christians from other Churches to boost the number of tithe payers in their own Church.

You guys quoted (misquoted) some biblical passages to prove that God created evil.

Show us where?

samba123:
hourus
Horus.

Hell is beyond our imagination on this Earth. As living creature, you cannot see hell by your naked eyes and cannot be fantasize by your imagination. And there is also no exact location where is hell and the Heaven. And because of your illogical approach to this kind of question no human being knows were it is, but if you believe in Good and Bad trait that what it means the hell and paradise you’re looking for.

You are also a living creature so you cannot see hell by your naked eyes,and you know that there is also no exact location where is hell and the Heaven.So how can you say that there is a hell and heaven if you cannot see hell by your naked eyes,and you know that there is also no exact location for them?
Can you locate something that do not exist.?

Well if hell was formulated to play on your fears would u also assume that the concept of your soul was formulated by YOU to play on your emotions?

Soul is not a concept,your heaven and hell is.
If a body have no soul the body is Dead.this can be see every day by evidence and concret fact,but you cannot even show an evidence of your fictious hell and haven.

You don't need my answers yet you've been going around DEMANDING answers from everyone. Where do u stand?

You are not everyone,I am not interrested by your answer that you cannot provide and I am not FORCING you,this is why I tald you already,just say that you cannot answer.So if you cannot why are you insisting?just say that you dont know,so what?is it so difficult for you to just say that you dont know?I repeated this at least ten time.But everyone else,can answer [B]if they want[/b],I am not FORCING anybody,because they cannot give proofs of the existence of hell,they just cannot.

This thread is not about about my soul but HELL.I tell you AGAIN I dont need your answer,There is no hell and no heaven,it is as simple as that.No religious people M'uslims or Christians never ever gave any evidences or proofs.Where are they?.Hell’s a fabrication.The concept of hell is something that was created in the hearts and minds of the authors of your Bible and K'oran. Before you were informed of what and where hell was, it never crossed your mind to even think about it. So, within the pages of your scriptures hell was born. Just as a God could not exist without the devil, heaven could not exist if there wasn’t a hell.So where did hell come from? It didn’t exist in Adam’s, Noah’s, nor Abraham’s time. It is something that was fabricated so that[b] they could capitalize off of your fear.[/b]

I dont need your response,I know you dont know where your hell is and you dont even know where your heaven is,you got no evidence no proof,because,there is NO HELL and there is NO HEAVEN.
Do you believe in Santa Claus?Where does he live?.

We are Gods soul are eternals.

4Him:
my questions are fully on topic and is only aimed to ensure we are both on the same plane when i decide to answer your questions on where heaven is located.

Now back to your miserable attempt to avoid the questions i asked you. You say you can locate your soul in your body . . . but HOW? Where was the soul BEFORE you were born? where does it go AFTER you die?
You say your soul is eternal . . . HOW?
You say your soul is as old as the sun . . . HOW do you know? Who created this soul or did your soul appear in a big bang too?

It is you who is OFF TOPIC and who dont want to answer about hell,just say you dont know,I will accept it.I do not need your reply to know that there is No hell.Hell is about Money!.The concept of hell and a devil with a pitchfork standing in front of an open furnace, are all things put in your minds by religious leaders and the media for their own personal gain. The more you believe in their concept of hell, the more frightened you become and the more you will pay for the religious leaders to forgive your sins and redeem your souls.Everybody gains,not just religious institutions. With the concept of horror which you know is entirely based on the devil and hell,everybody gains.

stillwater:
Are you being sarcastic again, Mr Horus?

Not at all,if the church want to distribute condoms, the church want to promote fornication.Do you need comdons if you intend to have sex only withing married couples?

Why only Condoms Should Be Distributed In The Church?,what about putting bedrooms and beds in every churchs also?

what would be your reaction if i just said that i FEEL and KNOW that heaven and hell exists?

Be serious I can locate my soul inside my body.souls are eternals and are are as old as the sun, moon, and stars. but WHERE IS YOUR HELL AND HEAVEN?[/B]
Just say you dont know where your hell is.Dont be [b]Off Topic to refuse to answer question about hell.This thread is about the describtion of hell and you still dont know where your hell is.

4Him:
But horus, how do u know that the soul has an etheric aspect?
Where is this soul of mine? Can i touch it?
Where was it before you were born?
Where does it go when you die?

I'd appreciate you don't just gloss over this important questions as they are the key to understanding hell.

I feel and know that my soul is separeted from my body .The body is just a container for the soul.The soul is immaterial .But what this have to do with your hell?

It is you who is confused,for me there is no confusion because there is no hell.
A soul is NOT physical,a soul have an etheric aspect.
Now if you want go to hell few minutes and come back here then tell us how hot it is.
(I am not joking I am serious) It is You religious who describe hell as fire,Not me.

Horus . . . until you understand what death is you can never know where heaven and hell are.
Continue tripping over your own feet.
You see people die daily but you don't know what really happens to their souls . . . where does it go? Why does death happen?
You can't learn logarithmic tables until you can recite your multiplication tables.

A soul is not physical,so how can a soul Burn in a physical fire?
You just answered my question: You dont know where is your hell.
It took time to realise that you dont know where your your hell is.

The answer to that question ii ask is the clue u need to understanding my own answer. So please attempt it.

I am not stupid ,you assume that someone have to know death before having knowledge of this "so called hell".
Now if yourself never experimented death,how can you say that there is a hell.
How can you talk about something that you dont know?.
This is why you cannot locate your hell,you just dont know if your hell is real because for you ,only death will tell you.So now you still dont know and cannot give an answer.

4Him:
Horus, answer me this riddle. Have you ever seen death? Where does it live?

Because you reply with a question instead of an answer?.Because you still can't answer?,this is why religious people dont know what they are talking about .
You cannot answer because you just dont know.

luckaflah:
One of the most interesting threads on this forum. Keep it going please!

Correct,!!,this is one of the most interesting threads on this forum.
When we Africans will realize we have been tricked with these monothetic religions of Judaism, I'slam and Christianity?
When Indian people come to England or any European country, they build and open Temples, When Chinese people come to England or any European country they build and open Temples or shrines, But when African people come to England they build Churches and worship the images of their former slave masters. The Indians and Chinese have unity amongst themselves , they also have a good economy , Chinese is going to be the next super power ,forget America. These countries India and China have also gone nuclear , they worship their own images (their ancestors) who work for them. The Europeans have religion, however, it does not stop them from working together. They have european union (which is the european community = common unity). But black africans are still fighting and arguing over a religion that does not belong to them. Nigerians for example will not work with you if you have a different religion. [/b]It was over 23 years ago that Bob Marley sang emancipate ourselves from mental slavery , yet our people are still mentally enslaved. We are the only species that will side another species against their own. You will not see a Chinese person side with a Hindu against another Chinese, neither will you see an Hindu side with a Chinese against another Hindu. You will not see a Cat side with a dog against another cat, neither will you see a dog side with a cat against another dog. You will not see a rat side with a cat against another rat, neither will you see a cat side with a rat against another cat.
We black are the only species on the planet that will side with another species, be it Asian, Caucasian or Arab against their own.
[b]When will we realize we have been tricked with these monothetic religions of Judaism, I'slam and Christianity?

ayinba1:
While appreciating your knowledge of science, you will agree with me that it is hard for you to grasp the concept that there is a Heaven or Hell if you do not believe there is God.

As you can see yourself are using the word concept.This is what I am talking about:a concept,this is what your hell and heaven is:just a concept,and this is why your hell and heaven have No geographic location.If you dont know where it is,shut up!!

4Him:
Horus your "question" verges on the childish. You may as well ask us to produce the exact address of the sun.
You believe that the body has a soul . . . now i ask where is that soul before u are born and where does it go when you die?

No I can see the sun,but WHERE is your hell?
In fact it is  your "answer" who verges on the childish,and this is typical with people who dont even know what they are talking about.
If you can't answer just say that you dont know.

So why you CANNOT decide and KNOW where your hell is?
Why nobody want to answer?
[size=15pt]WHY?[/size]

SysUser:
I think its high time we start to specify which and what we are actually talking about whenever a mu's'lim talks and whenever a Christian talks

This is exactly the problem they don't even know what they are talking about.
They cannot even agree to a proper name: Heaven?,  al'jaana? , Alia?,sky?
The same thing for their hell,They can’t even decide what hell is. Which one is it?,The Christian one?,The M'uslim one?. Is it the lake of fire (Revelation 20:10) or the pit (Revelation 11:7) or is it a place where you will be given oozing pus to drink like the K'oran describes (K'oran 14:16), or a place where you will be roasted (K'oran 17:18), or a prison (K'oran 17:?.They can’t even decide.

4Him:
The Egypt that the bible talks about is very different from the Egypt of today . . . the Egypt of today has been over-run by musl[color=Black]im[/color] arabs.

Do you need me to tell you that ancient Egyptians were black nubians?

This is correct, people must remember that Egypt was invaded by the Indo-Arabs and the Euro-Berbers in the 6th and 7th century, pushing out the black Nubians Egyptians to north and south Africa, they murdered,castrated, mutilated, raped and killed many black Egyptians, then suppressed most of them. This was called the[b] ‘Arab Invasion.’[/b] The results of the Arab invasion caused the original inhabitants of Egypt to shield or hide their true way of life, they shunned their cultural background, and they used I'slam as their veil, while secretly they still practiced their Egyptian old ways. The same ‘Arab Invasion’ is hapening today in Sudan.

ayinba1:
Asking about the exact location of Hell or Heaven is something an unbeliever will do. Your own "judgement day " starts from the moment you die. If you are headed for Aljannah, you will begin to feel and experience the goodness of it. If Hell, you will  have a taste of it in the grave.

I bet  you dont even know where your hell is,so just say that you dont know where it is.Your hell have[b] No location[/b].You are unable to proove if such place exist.Unable.Hell fire,how will it burn?.What is Oxygen? Oxygen (O2), it combines with most elements, and is essential for plant and animal respiration, and is required for all combustion. Oxygen is an element that makes up more than 1/5th of the air or 21%. Does Hell have the oxygen needed to keep the fire going? So Hell can’t be beneath the Earth because there is no air down there to keep the fire going. If you think that Hell is beneath the ground then it must be some kind of atmosphere there or a hole that allows oxygen to get there in order for the fire to stay lit because in order to light a fire, you need oxygen (O).

https://www.abc.net.au/science/news/img/health/condom_machine.jpg
Condom machine

The solution is to install Condom machines inside every Churchs in Nigeria.
When condoms are available in churchs and are successfully used by sexually active Christians they may be an effective means of preventing harmful outcomes such as HIV, STDs [sexually transmissible diseases] and pregnancy.

Hoooooo!!!!!!,so you mean that there is now Two differents hells ,one hell for christians and one hell for M'uslims ? 
But question now: which hell is hotter the m'uslim one or the christian one?

olabowale ,Where your hell and paradise  are situated EXACTLY and ACCURATLEY?

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We hope M'uslims will post here on this thread to give explanation about The Silence Of The M'uslim World On The Massive Rapes In Dafur!
Even on this thread they keep silent.

Horus,

The bible says that God created evil and satan. I do not dispute this, of course God created everything in existence.
I am wondering what your point is about it?

This was just a statement that I quoted from your bible.
I was just giving a fact.

Do you have a point?

It is in your bible

https://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2004/10/26/international/darfur.583.jpg

I'slam is in the hands of demons,this is why there is silence in the M'uslim world on the massive rapes in Dafur!

The Lord that you go to church and worship every Sunday[b] created evil[/b]

@Imhotep
You obliviously didn't read your own bible.
Go to Matthew 16:23,KJV  to see how your Jesus call Peter:Satan

Matthew 16:23, KJV
But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.