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Christianity Etc › Re: What Do You Feel About Black Jesus? by Horus(m): 12:17pm On Jul 16, 2007
There are still a few African Egyptians who are the descendant of those who could muster enough cowardice to convert to Islam. When you see the drawings in the pyramids and the tombs of pharoahs, including DNA testing on the last greatest Pharaoh, Tuttakhamun, you will realise that the Egyptians are Africans and not today's Arab occupiers.
[img]http://www.egyptologica.be/egyptologie/pix/pix_ramses2/ramsesII_enfant.jpg[/img]
Ramses II when he was children

https://nubianhairsupplies.homestead.com/hair14sm.jpg
Nubian children

Notice the similar hair style

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Ramses II

https://www.ankhonline.com/tutsi.gif

Notice the similar Hair style

African history is important because it has been so largely distorted by our oppressors that many of us don't think we have a history, which causes an inferiority complex. A slave mentality. People like that won't fight their oppression,and this is why whites people will find, create, and/or distort whatever information they can use to maintain doubts in the minds of Africans people. And they won't have to do much convincing considering all of the historical brain-washing, cultural reconstruction and deconstruction that blacks have been subjected to.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Do You Feel About Black Jesus? by Horus(m): 11:45am On Jul 16, 2007
@blue-sky
to the person who keeps on bringing up Egypt, how comes the majority are more Arab looking than there are black.
when white peoples visit Egypt today, the locals immediately recognize them as Khawaaga or foreigners. On the other hand, African Americans [/b]traveling in Egypt are very often mistaken for [b]native Egyptians, and are usually referred to as Masri or Egyptians. That is because, The simple truth is that Egypt is, and always has been a black African nation. Once you leave the great Arab cities of Cairo and Alexandria, and go into the Nile valley, you are in black Africa. Now, Egypt has been ruled by an Arab minority since the 9th century A.D., a minority that is extremely sensitive to race, and one which behaves in the manner chided by Ahmed Ben Bella, the late president of Algeria - "We (Arabs) have been in Africa for 1200 years, and yet we still behave as colonialists."This Arab minority control the images you see on television about Egypt.

Source: http://www.geocities.com/wally_mo/mod_egyptians.html

https://www.geocities.com/wally_mo/0000000Mostafaok2.jpg
Young Egyptian, Mostafa

https://www.geocities.com/wally_mo/00000_peopleok1.jpg
Egyptian musician, Upper Egypt

https://www.geocities.com/wally_mo/000000_luxor.jpg
Egyptian driver, Luxor

Source: http://www.geocities.com/wally_mo/mod_egyptians.html
Islam › Re: Our Stand As Muslims by Horus(m):
https://www.enquirer.com/editions/1997/06/25/nike_350x492.jpg

Nike Inc. Tuesday let the other shoe drop in a public affairs snafu festering for three months, agreeing to recall a line of shoes with a logo that a Muslim group found offensive.

The logo, meant to look like flames, resembles the word "Allah" in Arabic script. Shoes bearing the flame have been sold this summer under the names Air Bakin', Air Melt, Air Grill and Air B-Que.
    — Harrington, Jeff. Nike recalls disputed logo. The Cincinnati Enquirer [Internet]. 1997 Jun 25 [cited 2004 Dec 11]

If Islam worked, you wouldn’t be upset that Nike, the billion dollar sneaker company, made a logo that was written in stylized English letter “Air,” that resembles the word of your god, Allah in the Arabic script (photo). The problem is that Arabs don’t know the English script, so when they see something that looks like Arabic calligraphy they go crazy.
If you allow the name Allah to be printed on t-shirts, why not on sneakers? You can’t literally walk on Allah, it’s just a name. If your excuse is dirt can get on it, and it’s too close to the feet, dirt can definitely get on t-shirts too. The have Allah on jewelry and on their prayer rugs that you put your feet on. So what’s the big difference between wearing the script of the name Allah on your and stepping on a prayer rug five times a day, that has Allah and or his other names written on it?

Source: http://www.enquirer.com/editions/1997/06/25/bus_nike.html
Christianity Etc › Re: Prophet Mohammed (pbuh); Of Peace And Wisdom Unmatched by Horus(m): 10:39pm On Jul 15, 2007
If they do everything the Prophet Muhammad did, why don't they encircle the Ka'ba on a camel like he did?
Christianity Etc › Re: What Do You Feel About Black Jesus? by Horus(m): 6:42pm On Jul 15, 2007
@Paulus
Why should I answer your questions when you do not answer mine?
I did answer,and my answer was:FACTS and Facts only,NOT belief.(Look my previous post)
and I even quoted your question before my answer.
Now you dont answer my question because you CANNOT answer it.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Do You Feel About Black Jesus? by Horus(m): 12:28pm On Jul 15, 2007
@Paulus
You still haven't answered my question: Who (or what) do you put your faith (or trust) in?
FACTS and Facts only,NOT belief.The problem is that believe or belief breeds doubt, while facts breed confidence. Believe is ignorance, only the facts will mentally liberate us.The word ignorance means to ignore the facts, however, when you ignore the facts, you breed beliefs; and that’s just what they (religious teachers) have, all belief and no facts. When you believe in something, you are accepting things without knowing.How do you explain that,each year, hundreds of thousands of European pilgrims ritually humble themselves before the image of Black Mary and her child Jesus at Black Madonna sites throughout France, Germany, Spain, Italy, Belgium, Portugal and other Catholic countries. FRANCE is the country in the world where the image of Black Mary is most worshiped.(So they know something!!).This is not something we black people are making up to mentally liberate our people, this is something that they the White people are saying.
On the internet (Google)look for the 3 words:France Black Madonna,and you will see at least 2.500.000 Pages of results.Don't believe me, Check this things out for yourself!!.When will our people begin to wake up?.This thing has gone on for far too long.
PS.(And still you did not gave me answers about my post on Blacks in Asia)

https://www.gardenandsoul.com/v-web/ecommerce/os/catalog/images/Black-Madonna-greeting-card.jpg
Islam › Re: Our Stand As Muslims by Horus(m): 1:22am On Jul 15, 2007
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La Ilaaha Illa Allah Muhammadan Rasuwl Allah.
There is no God but Allah, and Muhammad is the messenger of Allah.
Muslims call this kalimat tayyiba, “the best word.”

This is not found written like this, anywhere in your Koran! However, they are found in several verses. But they are broken into two parts; they are never together as one sentence. “Laa Ilaaha Illa Allah” is found alone in Koran 37:35 and 47:19, and in Koran 33:40 and 48:29 “Muhammadan Rasuwl Allah” is found alone.

This is how it is written in the Koran of the Muslims. They are never found in the same place! Yet, the flag of Saudi Arabia (photo), which is where “the holy of holies” sit, in Mecca, has the same declaration, “the Kalimat Tayyiba,” written on it.
Many of their Islamic books, posters, and leaflets don this man-made verse. However, if you or I were to take two verses from the Koran, and put them together to create one sentence, like “La Ilaaha Illa Allah,” they would call it shirk (associating partners with Allah) and have a heart-attack saying “as-taghfir Allah, hum min al kaafiriyn” meaning “seek forgiveness in Allah, they are disbelievers” or they will seek to kill you!
Christianity Etc › Re: Muhammed wasn't a good man by Horus(m): 11:38pm On Jul 14, 2007
The Koran is filled with fictitious places that they (Muslims) cannot identify. You are so busy saying that I don’t know what I am talking about, you obviously never examined your Koran. The Koran is full of promises and fairy tale places that you don’t really know or can prove exists.
The Koran makes promises of “. . . gardens beneath which rivers flow . . .” (2:25) or promises “garments of silk and reclining in the garden on raised thrones.” (76:12) There are promises of drinks called zanjabil-a and “braces of silver” (76:17). All of these materials can be obtained right here on Earth.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Do You Feel About Black Jesus? by Horus(m): 10:50pm On Jul 14, 2007
even if Jesus was 'black' I would still say, 'My Lord & my God; in You I put my trust'."
This mean that the quote is coming from a brainwhased christian who worship the WHITE image of Jesus.
Notice when he said:even if Jesus was 'black' .So for him he is white.

http://mysticlovenetwork.com/heisinnocent/Doctrine/TheBibleIsEgiptianBook.htm

646 Bible References on Egypt.

Read them all and these Biblical references will
prove that God came out of Egypt Jesus was Taught in Egypt,
Moses was made a God over Egypt
(Exodus 7:1)
and much, much more. 

Do YOU  really believe in the Bible?

If  YOU do then YOU must stop praising
False Caucasian Images of Divine,
and learn the Truth about The BIBLE
Source: http://mysticlovenetwork.com/heisinnocent/Doctrine/TheBibleIsEgiptianBook.htm
Christianity Etc › Re: Challenges to Christians(proof yourself) by Horus(m): 7:08pm On Jul 14, 2007
This goes to show that the doctrine of trinity was a later insertion which prophets before Jesus never preached. There is a clear difference between the three.
Correct.
If your preacher, teacher, minister, deacon or any other religious leader really cared, he would take time out to research the original language, rather than rely on poor translations. If they knew how to translate from the original Syriac (Arabic) and Galilean Arabic, the verse 1 John 5:7 that you are familiar with today did not exist. Neither did it exist in the original Hebrew and Greek that were translated from these original languages. It wasn’t until the onset of the Roman Catholic Church that this distortion was made. The Roman Catholics[b] inserted[/b] the trinity verse when they tranlated the bible from Greek to Latin. Notice I say[b] “inserted”[/b] and not [b]“translated” [/b]because, as I already said, the original Greek did not have this verse. However, you will find some Greek translations that have been translated from Latin or English, and it is in these Greek translations that you will find either the whole trinity verse or only a portion of it.

1 John 5:7 is surrounded in controversy because there are two versions of this verse. So-called scholars say the verse used in most bibles today is either not the original verse, or they say that it is only partially genuine. These so-called scholars continue to argue back and forth on this subject because they really don’t want to admit that the trinity really has no basis in the teachings of Jesus.

I will refer to the Holy Bible from Ancient Manuscripts by George M. Lamsa, which is a bible that is translated from the original Aramic or Syriac language . . :

6 ¶This is he who came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ, not by water only, but by water and blood.
7 And the Spirit testifies that that very Spirit is the truth.
8 And there are three to bear witness, the Spirit and the water and the blood; and these three are one.

When you read 1 John 5:7 in your standard bible, which in this case is the Ryrie Study Bible (King James Version). . . you will read this:

For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

Do you see what happened? . . . You will find that the original verse 5:7, has been actually pushed up to merge with verse 5:6.
Christianity Etc › Re: God Is Not A Christian. by Horus(m): 6:04pm On Jul 14, 2007
Proof
The Bible Is
An Egyptian Book


646 Bible References on Egypt.

Read them all and these Biblical references will
prove that God came out of Egypt Jesus was Taught in Egypt,
Moses was made a God over Egypt
(Exodus 7:1)
and much, much more. 
Do YOU  really believe in the Bible. 
If  YOU do then YOU must stop praising
False Caucasian Images of Divine,
and learn the Truth about The BIBLE
Source: http://mysticlovenetwork.com/heisinnocent/Doctrine/TheBibleIsEgiptianBook.htm
Christianity Etc › Re: 666 Are We This Close? by Horus(m): 1:49pm On Jul 14, 2007
Their clock is based on 666.
  60 seconds
60 minutes
24 hours (2+4)= 6 in a day
  666

They tell YOU that there  are 24 hours in a day!  Think about it!
  What day of their 7-day week has a 24 hour day? 
Day denotes light, or the presence of the Sun! 
If the DAY has 24 hours or is a 24 hour day as they say,
what happened to the NIGHT!?   
See how tricky the devils are?
The Defective Time-system established by the devils
has most people under a hypnotic spell.
The past or yesterday is gone forever! 
  Tomorrow never comes,
for when Tomorrow arrives You call it
TODAY!
So what is Real TIME?   
Its NOW!  The HERE AND  NOW!!!
We must study what time it is!  The Devil Time is up! 
This is Our Time NOW!
But most, if not all of us
are still living by the devils clock and the devils Calendars!

  WE have willingly extended the devils time by ignoring OUR TIME! 
The Devil
  Knows he got us tricked up!  Hes playing us! 
He splits time zones up and plays your God! 
Yes!  I said YOUR GOD. 
He establishes a EASTERN STANDARD TIME and a DAYLIGHT SAVINGS TIME.
Then he implies that he (the devil) can turn time back
(take you into the Past), or
Turn Time up (take you into the Future)!
He (the devil) tells YOU, in the fall turn the clock back because its
EASTERN STANDARD TIME. 
Then when SPRING comes he tells you to turn the clock up because its
DAYLIGHT SAVING TIME.   
And guess what? YOU OBEY HIM!
The evil one has you going by His Clock. 
Your Life is governed by His TIME PIECE! 
He rules you by his  clock even though his time is up!!!
Christianity Etc › Re: What Do You Feel About Black Jesus? by Horus(m): 11:08am On Jul 14, 2007
Like Hollywood is going to listen to a follower of Jesus Christ, hah.
At the moment it is followers of Jesus Christ who listen to Hollywood.
Something else, Horus, you have a hateful tone in your posting --

-- get rid of it.
Christians are reacting all time the same if you tell them to get rid of the white picture of Jesus in their mind,they call this Hatred.But if you tell them jesus (Yashua) was black,they call it Blasphemy,and this mean that they worship The IMAGE of a white Jesus ONLY.
And this show that they are Hypocrite.
This thread is about:  What Do You Feel About Black Jesus?
(I hope you did read my post above about Blacks in Asia)
Christianity Etc › Re: Challenges to Christians(proof yourself) by Horus(m): 10:30am On Jul 14, 2007
If God so loved the world,[b] why didn't he come himself [/b]instead of sending his only begotten son?
Christianity Etc › Re: What Do You Feel About Black Jesus? by Horus(m): 10:58pm On Jul 13, 2007
@Paulus
Horus, that's one of the ways men "wear" their hair, it's not an effeminate style.

Seems that you like to pull things out of context.

We didn't "worship" his picture, we worship Him in our hearts.
1-Where did I mentioned the word effeminate? shocked
2-And where did I mention that I dont know that's one of the ways men "wear"their hair? shocked
We didn't "worship" his picture, we worship Him in our hearts
You Christians didn't "worship" his picture?,you worship Him in your hearts?
So get rid of all the white pictures of him IN YOUR MIND.
And get rid of all the white pictures of him IN YOUR CHURCH.
And get rid of all the white pictures of him IN YOUR WALLS.
And stop worshiping the white pictures of him IN HOLLYWOOD MOVIES.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Do You Feel About Black Jesus? by Horus(m): 10:00pm On Jul 13, 2007
@denex
I see what hapened denex I should have replied to paulus,sorry for the confusion. embarassed
Christianity Etc › Re: What Do You Feel About Black Jesus? by Horus(m): 9:51pm On Jul 13, 2007
@ denex
I think is is a mistake I was replying to paulus
Christianity Etc › Re: What Do You Feel About Black Jesus? by Horus(m): 8:32pm On Jul 13, 2007
@Paulus
If "the original race of people in all of these areas was the Black race," how did the peoples of China, Japan, Korea, Laos, Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam, & Indonesia get so "light?" Their features do not resemble the "Black race," your words, sir -- not mine.
https://www.trinicenter.com/images/123negrito.jpg
The first picture from the left show,the original man from china, Japan, Korea, Laos, Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam, Indonesia,Japan
Asian people are only the semi-recessive descendants of their ancestors who were a black African tribe with slanted eyes.Pale skinned people invaded Asia after and mix in with them.they have inherited those people’s phenotypes.
The first people with slanted eyes on the planet where Black,as you can see on the first picture from the left.You can still found  them today in Asia,where this picture was taken.
Slanted eyes is a  features of the Black race.
Just look at the Buddha,he have kinky hair.

https://suzar.com/BOTW/1botw-pics/buddas3.jpg
Buddha of India was Black, that's why his woolly hair is always shown in small tight curls ­pepper corn style, or in corn rows. Early sculptures of him clearly portray his Africoid features of wide nose and full lips.

https://www.raceandhistory.com/gifs/blckbuddha.gif
Christianity Etc › Re: The Coming Of Jesus Christ by Horus(m): 11:20am On Jul 13, 2007
The end of the world has nothing to do with religion, but it does have to do with you and what you do from this point on. Do you really think that Jesus, or the Messiah, or whoever you are waiting for is coming for you or anybody else with the world in the state it’s in? And you haven’t changed. You still want any and everything that makes life more convenient which if the Messiah was to come with a New World, a New Jerusalem, it would eventually end up the same way because it happened before. And, each time they try it ends up even worse then before.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Do You Feel About Black Jesus? by Horus(m): 10:38am On Jul 13, 2007
this is the picture that was in my parents' house
This picture is the image of the Beast that Christians are worshiping.
First let us have a look at 1 Corinthians 11:14 [/b]where it states that [b]it is a shame for a man to have long hair. This goes to show you that the image of Jesus with long hair could NOT[/B] be the true image of the true Son of God, Jesus Christ.
[B]So why Christians are worshiping an  image of Jesus with long hair?

Revelation 22:18-19 in part states If any MAN shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book. (19) And if any MAN shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. ( Don't this mean that even to portray Jesus as something he is NOT, is in essance taking away from this book , which means those who has lied about Jesus's apparence has lost their parts from the book of life and that the plague have been added to them written in the book of Revelation? (Hummmmm )
[B]So why Christians are worshiping an  image of Jesus with long hair?[/b]
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Prophesied and Warned: Paul is False Prophet/Messiah by Horus(m): 12:04pm On Jul 12, 2007
Re: Jesus Prophesied and Warned: Paul is False Prophet/Messiah

Romans 3:7 For If The Truth Of God Hath More Abounded Through My Lie Unto His Glory; Why Yet Am I Also Judged As A Sinner?

This is the kind of man that you base your faith on! Your whole Law concerning Christianity hangs on the words of a man WHO LIED TO GET YOUR LOYALTY. He altered the teachings of Jesus Christ as well as remitted the laws of the Prophets (Matthew 5:17-18).
Yet, You still follow Paul. You've modernized an already fabricated religion and broke it up into many other little sects: Roman Catholics, Pentecostals, Baptists, Jehovah's Witnesses, Lutherans, Born-Again-Christians, Hebrew Israelites and many others who call themselves Hebrews or Israelites or Jew yet, Quote the New Testament and speak of Jesus; Making them another sect of Christianity.(refer to Matthew 24:24).
Paul was the self appointed Apostle of the Gentiles, Some even call him a Anti-Christ; Why?
Jesus said: Keep the Sabbath (mark 2:27),Circumcise male children (Luke2:21),Paul Said: Circumcision is not Necessary (Romans2:26) That is going against what Christ said in Luke 2:21. The word ANTI means AGAINST so Anti-Christ means to go against anything that Christ Taught.
In 2nd Chronicles 7:12-16 It says that the God dwells in chosen temples; A law through Moses. However, Paul Says In Acts 7:48 The most high does Not dwell in Temples.
God Dwells in light in 1Timothy6:16 says Paul. But the book of 1Kings 8:12 the lord says He dwells in Thick Darkness.
In Romans 1:20 Gods Attributes are revealed in his works says Paul. But, Isaiah 40:28 says the Opposite.
Anger is approved by Paul in Ephesians 4:26. But Anger is Disapproved in Ecclesiastes 7:9. As well as Proverbs 22:24.
The law of circumcision was instituted in Genesis 17:10 and Paul condemned it in Galatians 5:2.
Ques: Who is Paul?
Ans: Paul (meaning "little" in the Greek Translation Paulo’s) was an Israelite of the tribe of Benjamin. Being that he was an Israelite his Hebrew name by birth was Saul meaning "asked"; From the root word Shaal or Shael meaning "To Inquire". Isn't it A Contradiction On Paul's behalf to call himself by a Greek name if he was born with a Hebrew name? Saul's name was changed to Paul when he became a Christian. Paul Inherited the Judahite which you now call Jew due to the territory in which his father resided before becoming a resident of the city of Tarsus, which lies in the vicinity of Rome(Acts 22:3).
Paul was called a judahite because his father was of the tribe of Judah. Paul was called a Judahite only by Territory Not by Blood!! Judahites were brought to Tarsus, Of Rome in Cilicia, to promote business and were given citizenship. Paul's father, who was of roman Nationality, became a Pharisee, which was one of the many Religious groups of that time; they were:
1.Sadducee
2.Chief Priests
3.Zealots
4.The Essenses
5.The Scribes
6.The Rabbial Council Of Levites
Now, Because Paul's father (Originally a Benjaminite) dwelt in the land of Judah (Due to some of the tribe of Benjamin Migrating into the land of Judah) They inherited the name of the most prominent tribe- The tribe of Judah. This took place during the reign of King Rehoboam (1 Melakim (1 Kings)12:21) from 967-950 B.C.E., Son of King David, Son of Jesse of the house of Judah (Ruth 4:22).

Paul's father was a Judahite by name only. So Paul was born a Roman Greek Hebrew- In other words A reformed Judahite, A "GENTILE"!
Paul was of a mixed seed and his father had long since left the laws of Moses. Paul's Father had "REFORMED"! Now what does it mean he had reformed? According to the American Heritage Dictionary Reform Means: 1.V.-To Improve by Alterations, Correction of Error, Or Removal Of Defects.
2.To cause (A Person) To Abandon Irresponsible or Immoral Practices.
3.A Movement that attempts to Institute Improved Social and Political Conditions Without Revolutionary Change.
The reformed Jews were those of the tribe of Judah who conformed to the Hellenistic ways of Rome. Most of these reformed Jews held high or prosperous positions in the Government.
They Prospered either as skilled workers, Roman Soldiers or Learnt Scholars. The Council of Sanhedrin were of this class of people, as well as Saul's father. These men Modernized the laws and statutes given to the children of Israel by way of Moses. These Laws were adjusted According to their Roman Life Styles. (Matthew 15:6, 16:6, 23:2-3, 23:23, 25) Jesus Christ referred to them in this way:
Matthew 15:8-9
"This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honouteth me with their lips; But their heart is far from me. But In vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of Men."

These are the Jews you see today, they have diluted the original laws and customs. The only true Hebrews who still follow the old laws are the Falashas-The tribe of Judah, The remnant of the original tribes, reside in Ethiopia and some have moved up into Nubia.


Who are the real Falashas?


The Falashas, Today are the only true Israelites because they follow the Torah only. The Talmud(meaning "Study" or "Learning"wink Is written Interpretation of the Oral law called the Mishnah which Existed from the 1st century A.D. and was collected by Rabbi Judah and the Gemara, The Comments Of The Rabbis from 200-500 A.D. On the Mishnah.

The Talmud contains Halakhah which is legal enactments and precepts. The Falashas Do Not Accept these Interpretations over the law of Moses. For This, The Jews of today Do Not Accept them As Rabbis Or any type of Religious Official. This makes no sense at all. They will not accept the Falashas who have not mixed their seed at all and kept the Laws of Moses because they do not recognize the Talmud; A Man-Made set Of Books!

Paul studied to be a rabbinical priest which was a trait he inherited from his father. He too was not of the true followers of the laws of Moses; Yet, He was a full believer in a set of traditions of that day and time that was just like the Talmud.

So here you see how simple it was for him to[b] "Add" [/b]to the books of the New Testament. The Pharisee’s Doctrine was a product of Hellenism (Adopted Greek Culture). Therefore, The Pharisee’s doctrine was mainly from the philosophies of the Stoics (Greek Philosophers). Originally, Greeks were Pagans before they converted to Christianity. When they did Cross-Over, They brought a lot of Pagan Practices with them such as: Hymns, The Worship Of Deities In Temples, Statues, Polytheism, and Mysticism
Christianity Etc › Re: So Called Born Again by Horus(m): 10:10am On Jul 12, 2007
I'd assume you are referring to roman catholic priests
They are Christians and "Born paedophile again" grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Prophesied and Warned: Paul is False Prophet/Messiah by Horus(m): 9:27pm On Jul 11, 2007
Those people in Israel today are[b] not the real Israelites[/b]. If they were, they wouldn’t need armies to fight for them. According to their Torah, their God fought their battles for them. Their Lord defeated the Egyptians for them in Exodus Chapter 15. Their Lord defeated the Canaanites for them in Numbers 21:3. , The Israelite’s God kicked much butt for them. Right now these people who are claiming to be the Israelites are getting their butts kicked. Can’t you see the irony in the story?
Christianity Etc › Re: Ethiopia Yields Ancestral Fossils by Horus(m): 9:16pm On Jul 11, 2007
this dating is in serious conflict with the date of creation stories held in the bible which can be guestimated to about 5000 or 6000 years

who are we to believe Science or The creation story
God is a scientist.
When religious scholars, be they Hebraic, Christian, or Islamic agree that the creation of Adam is not more than 6000 years old, they have to see that gold had to be in the process of forming before Adam and Eve were born. Thus, the planet predates Adam and Eve by millions of years, and also make note of the statement that the God of the Bible makes literally “and the gold of that land is good.” He differentiates good gold from bad gold, which means he was able to examine gold to make the decision, rendering him a scientist, a minerologist.
Christianity Etc › Re: Every Single African Should Read This: by Horus(m): 11:42am On Jul 11, 2007
https://www.geraldbrimacombe.com/Egypt/Egypt%20-%20Sphinx%20profile%20tight%20Hz.jpg

We as a people are looking at God through Roman eyes! Through Greek eyes! And not through our own Eyes!  Even on the College Campuses our young African Students walk around wearing Greek Letters as if they are Greeks or Romans. This is a obvious reality that they don’t know who the hell they are.  We must return to the True Knowledge of Black SELF, EGIPTIAN SELF! AFRICAN SELF! TRUE NUWAUBIAN SELF!!!
They (enemies of Truth) don’t want us going back to our roots in Egipt (Africa).  They don’t want us to learn about the Hieroglyphs, known to Egiptians as The Medu Neter (“Language of God”) or NUWAUBIC LANGUAGE.
They don’t want you going to Egipt and looking at the pictures of your Mothers and Fathers on the Walls. They don’t want you going to Iraq which was once called Babylon (Sumeria) and seeing your Mothers’ and Fathers’ Pictures on the walls  there.
The Church needs to visit Egipt and see the Statues of Rameses and Osiris, Tututkhamen and Horus. Look at the Sphinx and see how they knocked off it’s wide nose and thick lips.  We have to plug back in and get our battery charged again.  Then we’ll have the WISDOM, The STRENGTH and The BEAUTY.  And with those 3 Principles We’ll shine as bright as the Sun and that is what they don’t want.
Christianity Etc › Re: So Called Born Again by Horus(m): 11:14am On Jul 11, 2007
why is that it is  often  those who say they are ''born again'' that commit the most abominable deeds.
They are "born again" to become "sinner again".Just look at the growing number of childrens that have been sexualy abused by priests.
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Oyakilome by Horus(m): 11:22pm On Jul 10, 2007
Born again christians are the most dillusional people I've ever seen.
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Police start hunt for wired pastors

POLICE are investigating the conduct of churches for born-again Christians in the wake of rising cases of pastors’ impropriety. Police publicist Asan Kasingye said all allegations – from[b] sodomy to fraud[/b] – would be investigated.

Source: http://www.monitor.co.ug/news/news07111.php

The detectives will be interested in the idea of “sowing”, the term used to describe the generous tithes that pastors manipulate churchgoers into giving in the honest expectation of miracles.
“We are out to find out really if these [pastors] are using tricks to obtain people’s property [and money],” Mr Kasingye said. It also emerged yesterday that there are “ongoing consultations” expected to lead to a policy that regulates the activities of the Pentecostals or balokole, as born-again Christians are popularly called.
“I met [pastors] at the beginning of the year and we discussed the matter,” said Ethics and Integrity Minister James Nsaba Buturo, himself a born-again Christian.
The head of the National Council of Born-Again Churches Alex Mitala said yesterday he would issue a response to the charges tomorrow.
Pastor Martin Sempa of Makerere Community Church said there were “quacks” among the balokole, including those who are “willing to go to Satan to receive power”.
Allegations against some of the church ministers now include sodomy and dubious miracle healing.
The latest incident has been the interrogation by police of Yeboah Nana Kojo, the Ghanaian-born Kampala pastor who allegedly procured an “electric touch” machine that is believed to deliver Holy Spirit-like shock.
“I believe people can pray and God heals, but we have manipulated people,” said Pastor Solomon Male of the Arising for Christ Ministries. “There is a cover-up.”
The temporary arrest of Mr Kojo on July 5, and the possibility that many more pastors use the machine on unsuspecting worshipers desperate for a better in life in the context of poverty and disease, has stoked cynicism over the genuineness of exorcisms and miracle healings that have come to be identified with the Pentecostals.
The manual of Mr Kojo’s gadget, which was confiscated by police, says the user needs to be “creative” with the machine, while an Internet ad declares: “Without a doubt, you will shock people.”
On yigalmesika.com, the website for the gadget’s makers, it is said that their products “are incredibly innovative, clever and a must for those who want to create miracles anywhere at anytime”. It adds: “Everything you touch will turn to excitement.”
The gadget, which can be worn like a corset on the body or under the sole of a shoe, can generate up to 12 volts, enough current to “pleasantly” shock dozens at a time.
According to the users’ manual, “once your body is charged, you are able to transfer this electricity to other objects that are grounded or people”.
But according to Vincent Karuhanga, a general medical practitioner with Kampala Polyclinic, “12 volts is not really much. But if you apply the 12 volts on one person for a long time, it can damage the nerves.”
Mr Kojo, who was arrested and interrogated at Entebbe Airport on July 5 after he attempted to clear the gadget into the country, has claimed it was a birthday gift for his teenage children.
“This is an old machine; it’s a toy. Children in developed countries play with it as a toy under the supervision of adults,” said Mr Augustus Sewankambo, Mr Kojo’s lawyer. “Obiri’s twins who stay in the UK had come to Uganda to celebrate their birthday with him and use the machine on the ceremony.”
Yesterday, Mr Kojo denied any wrong doing claiming he was being “victimised” by police and some fellow pastors although he did not say why he was being picked on.
According to Mr Male, who is noted for his tenacity in exposing vices amongst the balokole, “one does not need to fall down” to be delivered.
“When a person is hit and he falls today, the following Sunday he will fall to the ground before he is hit,” he said. “People do not know that that is a machine because they have been made to believe that Holy Spirit power is shocking power.”
Kampala lawyer Ladislaus Rwakafuuzi said Mr Kojo could face charges that fall under the general offence of false pretences with the possibility of serving up to five years in jail if found guilty.
“There are three possible offences: disturbing religious assemblies, stupefying in order to commit a misdemeanour, and even assault,” Mr Rwakafuuzi said.

Source: http://www.monitor.co.ug/news/news07111.php
Christianity Etc › Re: The Coming Of Jesus Christ by Horus(m): 8:05pm On Jul 10, 2007
Christians claim that heaven is further than the furthest star, and that is where Jesus went with his father to prepare a place for you, right. Remember, John 14:2 “In my father's house are many mansions, I go to prepare a place for you.” However, if you look at the possibility of Jesus coming back, the furthest star away from Earth is billions of light years away. Therefore, in actuality, Jesus still didn't get to heaven. There's no way he could be on his way back.
Christianity Etc › Re: Shakesphear's Name In The King James Bible Spelled Backwards by Horus(m): 10:18am On Jul 09, 2007
[size=14pt]SHAKESPEARE left his signature on the Bible.Let me explain it to you detail.Shakespeare use the number 46 as a code to do it.
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We must overstand that KING JAMES was a English King and he has his own version of the Bible. In fact he had his ENGLISH BIBLE translated from the Tynsdale German version of the Bible. At present, we know of 17 different German translations produced between 1466 and 1522, but these translations never became popular. First, they were mostly based on the Vulgate, and not the originals. They were also largely poor, awkward translations. Although good intentioned, these translators often just didn't have the language skills necessary to make good translations.

Coverdale's work was the basis of the next English Bible, the Great Bible published in 1540.The Geneva Bible appeared in 1560. This Reformed Bible was promoted by Calvin and Beza, the Reformed leaders from Geneva Switzerland -- and hence the name. The heart of this translation was the official explanation in the notes that explained what everything said. This version was printed in 117 editions and was used far into the 17th century. Shakespeare quoted from this version of the Bible.

The Bible was then put into the Shakespearean Language by King James because it was the most flowery and picturesque Language of his day and even up to today. In fact SHAKESPEARE left his signature on the Bible. The Scholars know about the 46 Rabbis or 46 Elders that was used by King James, who couldn’t speak Hebrew and who belonged to the Anglican Church, a branch that broke off from Martin Luther, who had broken off from the Catholic Church. So King James wanted a Bible to set up his own European Church. So the Bible is in his (KING JAMES VERSION and not GOD’s VERSION.)

(1). Catholic Versions

(2). Latter Day Saint Versions

(3). American Standard Version

(4).Amplified Bible Version   (Jehovah Witnesses)

(5).Authorized Version Version   

(6).Douay-Rheims Version   

(7).English Standard Version   

(cool.King James Version 

(9).New International Version   

(10)New King James Version 

(11)New Living Translation 

(12)Revised Standard Version 

(13)Today's New International Version 

       (14)Young's Literal Translation 

These are all "VERSIONS" and not the True Scriptures that came down to us in HEBREW or GALILEAN (Arabic) spoken by Jesus of Galilee. Jesus did not speak "English" in his day and time. So we should teach our children and ourselves the Ancient languages of the Bible or at least get us a KEY WORD STUDY BIBLE AND A STRONG’S BIBLE DICTIONARY SO WE CAN STUDY THE TRUTH OF WHAT THE BIBLE REALLY TEACHES. JESUS SPOKE GALILEAN (ARABIC).

Much of the ministry of Jesus occurred on the shores of Lake Galilee

Mark 1: 14-5

14 "Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, 

15And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel."

and

Matthew 4:18-22 (King James Version)

18 " And Jesus, walking by the sea of Galilee, saw two brethren, Simon called Peter, and Andrew his brother, casting a net into the sea: for they were fishers.

19 And he saith unto them, Follow me, and I will make you fishers of men."

King James used 46 Rabbis (Elders) to translate the Bible and it was put into SHAKESPEAREAN LANGUAGE. Isn’t it ironic that 46 Rabbis Translated the Bible and Psalms 46th Chapter hides Shakespeare's Signature in code?

Go to the next page and let us explain it to you in detail:




BIBLE: Psalms , Chapter 46 (King James Version)

Start -> 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11

1 God is our refuge and strength, a very present help in trouble.

12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22

2Therefore will not we fear, though the earth be removed,

23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33

and though the mountains be carried into the midst of the

34

sea;

35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43

  3Though the waters thereof roar and be troubled, though

44 45 46 STOP

the mountains Shake [/b]with the swelling thereof. Selah.

4There is a river, the streams whereof shall make glad the city of God, the holy place of the tabernacles of the most High.

5God is in the midst of her; she shall not be moved: God shall help her, and that right early.

6The heathen raged, the kingdoms were moved: he uttered his voice, the earth melted.

7The LORD of hosts is with us; the God of Jacob is our refuge. Selah.

8Come, behold the works of the LORD, what desolations he

hath made in the earth.

9He maketh wars to cease unto the end of the earth; he



[b]STOP
46 45 44 43

breaketh the bow, and cutteth the Spear [/b]in sunder; he

42 41 40 39 38 37

burneth the chariot in the fire.

36 35 34 33 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 23

10 Be still, and know that I am God: I will be exalted among

22 21 20 1 9 18 17 16 15 14

the heathen, I will be exalted in the earth.

13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2

11The LORD of hosts is with us; the God of Jacob is our

1

refuge.ß -- Start Count Selah (PSALMS 46th Chapter, v. 1 - 11)

[b]Here you start from the bottom of the page at the end of the 46th Chapter of Psalms in your Bible and count 46 words from the end of the chapter. Remember we don’t count epithets like "SELAH" or "AMEN". You end up with SHAKESPEARE. See?

Shake+spear
Christianity Etc › Re: Whats Ur Opinion About White Garment Churches? by Horus(m): 10:54pm On Jul 08, 2007
Naked would be the best. At least there would be a reason to go to church
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