₦airaland Forum

uplawal:
Even if you dnt forgive is not a sin,EYE for an EYE IS OK too

zayhal:
despite aII the verses quoted above! DeaIin with your person must be some task!

_{[sub]expectin some serious Iashin 4rm U}[/sub]

zayhal:
In the quran Allah says in the Prophet we see a best example. did he (pbuh) used to do EYE for an EYE to peopIe then, even enemies?

azharuddin:
That is the view of Islam too

May Allah include all of us in the category of true believers who forgive even when angry.
Ameen.



A very very good Lecture about Justice vs Forgiveness in English. Highly recommended.


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Dubai: Thousands of people gathered last night at the Burj Plaza, with candle-lit lanterns, to celebrate Earth Hour with millions more people around the world.

For 60 minutes from 8.30pm the lights at some of the biggest landmarks dimmed to black including the Burj Khalifa, to raise awareness on environment degradation caused by climate change.

LagosShia:
you have not answered me.
was it not the government that started the violence against peaceful protesters?please answer me and stop preaching what is offtopic.
i did not justify the killings of asians.dont twist words to make it look like i am a racist.there are indians and pakistanis in bahrain who were naturalized on sectarian basis.and those foreigners were holding protests to supprt the tyrannical king or in other words to support the oppression of the shia.

@Hymen,
you're sympathizing with the indians and pakistanis in bahrain in one of your posts and because they were attacked by protesters as you claimed,you want to tag the protesters as "extremists".
for your information,it is very legitimate for the bahraini shia to attack the indians and pakistanis in bahrain as it is legitimate for palestinian sunnis to attack jewish settlers.no difference at all!!!

LagosShia:
dialogue with the bahraini royals is like dialogue of the palestinians with the israelis.you do not dialogue people that steal your land and your rights and have a gun pointed against your head.that is not dialogue. that is compulsion. who are you mocking here?

I am shocked that a religious adherent will say it is write to kill & maim people in the name of politics ?? So where are your religious tenets? Will God be proud of you as a worshipper of God that you support the killing of innocents?

There are almost 400,000 indians & Pakistanis in Bahrain,probably less than 1% work for the security forces and even less are ‘nationalised’,so whats your problem?

So because Nigerians scam people on ‘419’ all Nigerians should be targeted or because muslims blow up themselves for allah,all muslims should be profiled as possible terrorists?

Your arguments do not hold water. If people have problems with their govt,there are legitimate ways of going about it without killing expatriate. What then is the difference between your religion and idol worship with ‘oro’ and ‘ebo’ (sacrifice) ?
The answer is simple religion & politics for a very dangerous mix. LEAVE RELIGION OUT OF POLITICS !
The religious leader purports to to get his legitimacy from God,while the polical leader is supposed to get his legitimacy from the people,the moment one person tries to combine the 2 like the theocracies in Iran & Hezbollah,you can only have unmitigated disaster.

Hezbollah rejects Saudi intervention in Bahrain , but supports Syrian invasion of Lebanon. Hypocrisy is a human trait & has no religious face.

On the Lebanese system, if their constitution supports dividing the political positions between faiths for stability ,who are you to say it is wrong??
Afterall the Iranian constitution vests enormous political power in a religious leader who should be praying regularly to God + studying and meditating on religious texts? If that makes sense to you , you have no right to disparage another country’s constitution. Different countries have different systems. As a matter of fact this kind of system will be the key to stability in Nigeria(zoning),the PDP have a fair idea of this unfortunately they are focused of enriching themselves & not improving the country ,or else its not a bad idea.

The solution to the Bahraini problem is political & should not be viewed strictly from a sectarian lense , otherwise the problems will never end. For example we have(until recently) more blacks in the USA than Hispanics, but you have many more Hispanic senators, it’s all about delineation of districts, is it currently done correctly in Bahrain, what will be the status of women ,minorities and governorates, do we need an upper House (Shura council)? These are political questions which no religion can answer , but genuine discussions between political leaders?

I don’t think Iran is the best to teach anyone how to handle protesters.

LagosShia:
@Hymen,
you're sympathizing with the indians and pakistanis in bahrain in one of your posts and because they were attacked by protesters as you claimed,you want to tag the protesters as "extremists".
for your information,it is very legitimate for the bahraini shia to attack the indians and pakistanis in bahrain as it is legitimate for palestinian sunnis to attack jewish settlers.no difference at all!!!
both the jewish settlers in palestine and the indian and pakistani sunnis in bahrain have the same objective:to steal the land from its owners.
these indians and pakistanis have being given bahraini citizenship simply because they are sunni and for no other reason.the government wants to alter the demographic balance of bahrain to ensure that the shia who are indigenous to bahrain no longer form a majority.

LagosShia:
and believe me,Iran has not interfered in bahrain as you hinted of the suspicion.
as for my opinion,i believe it is time for the bahraini shia who form a majority and whose rights are stripped away because of their identity,to get arms.there is no other way for them.mushaima represent the bahraini shia as does hamas represent the sunni palestinians.simply because the powers in place do not like a party or an individual doesnt mean that side is "extremist" as you're painting it.

as to correct you one more time,lebanon is not a democracy.it has a confessional system structured like a democracy.which democracy in the world has it that the president of the country MUST be a maronite christian,the speaker of parliament MUST be shia muslim and the Prime Minister MUST be a sunni?its only found in lebanon.and bahrain has been edging towards that kind of structure where the majority shia are not represented in parliament proportionally to their number out of 40 MPs in parliament only 18 are shia and the shia make up over 70% of the total population).in lebanon too,50% of parliament is from the christian sects while the remaining 50% is from the muslim sects.that is not democracy with such restrictions which gives every group its own quota.whats the use of elections then,when results are almost concluded from the start?

LagosShia:
@Hymen,

you're sympathizing with the indians and pakistanis in bahrain in one of your posts and because they were attacked by protesters as you claimed,you want to tag the protesters as "extremists".

for your information,it is very legitimate for the bahraini shia to attack the indians and pakistanis in bahrain as it is legitimate for palestinian sunnis to attack jewish settlers.no difference at all!!!

both the jewish settlers in palestine and the indian and pakistani sunnis in bahrain have the same objective:to steal the land from its owners.

these indians and pakistanis have being given bahraini citizenship simply because they are sunni and for no other reason.the government wants to alter the demographic balance of bahrain to ensure that the shia who are indigenous to bahrain no longer form a majority.

the same indians and pakistanis you're sympathizing with,were openly demonstrating in favor of the opressive monarchy.if you agree that the protests against the monarchy is legitimate then why sympathize with those foreigners who wanted to quell the protests by all means possible?

and believe me,Iran has not interfered in bahrain as you hinted of the suspicion.

as for my opinion,i believe it is time for the bahraini shia who form a majority and whose rights are stripped away because of their identity,to get arms.there is no other way for them.mushaima represent the bahraini shia as does hamas represent the sunni palestinians.simply because the powers in place do not like a party or an individual doesnt mean that side is "extremist" as you're painting it.

as to correct you one more time,lebanon is not a democracy.it has a confessional system structured like a democracy.which democracy in the world has it that the president of the country MUST be a maronite christian,the speaker of parliament MUST be shia muslim and the Prime Minister MUST be a sunni?its only found in lebanon.and bahrain has been edging towards that kind of structure where the majority shia are not represented in parliament proportionally to their number out of 40 MPs in parliament only 18 are shia and the shia make up over 70% of the total population).in lebanon too,50% of parliament is from the christian sects while the remaining 50% is from the muslim sects.that is not democracy with such restrictions which gives every group its own quota.whats the use of elections then,when results are almost concluded from the start?

i will contain myself with the above reply since much was said during the period ive being inactive.

as for lagosboy,yes it is good to bridge the gap.but it is always best to speak the truth and fight for justice even if that means separation.islam and muslims who are sincere cannot stand on foundations of injustice and oppression and then you want us to pretend all is well and life goes on?

Lagosboy:
I am .com illeterate i have never used twitter lols

But i am just wondering because they are both arabs , it is really difficult to tell IMO.

I hope you are safe though and you are in a safe location

Lagosboy:
But how do they tell sunni apart from shi at the university.

This is very shameful

uplawal:
@Hymen,av always made you to know its better to be (OMO ALATA)than to be an (OMO OLOSHA)Daughter of an armed robber like you,shogbo

uplawal:
Ofcourse do you think the Press tv will support a corrupt govt?ofcourse not,

Why do you think shallow,you claimed am getting fact from internet while you sit there on ground giving wrong report,I have very honest people from even sunni brother that i know in bahrain given me fact,even,they never support their Sunni ruling family,i dnt even get report from internet but watch presstv 24/7 since the inception of all revolution.

I call revolting peacefully without firearms peacefull while i call the wicked govt forces violent,ITS UPTO YOU WHATEVER YOU CALL THEM,YOU ARE ONLY A FOREIGNER thats supporting them because they allow you work there?i just hate people that reason like this.

Lagosboy:
Damn it, i had lots of sympathy for some of the opressed shia in Bahrain , why are they doing this. They should not turn this in to sectarinism like som eshias want it to be. Sectarian clashes would not enable them attain what they want to. If the copts and muslim could come together to bring down mubarak , it could be done in Bahrain as well.

Sectarian objectives just plays into the hand of the silly house of Saud and their Bahraini stooges. This is my crux with Lagosshia on here as he himself is turning this uprising inot sectarinism. We would never move foward as a nation with all these sectarianism.

vedaxcool:
Life is not all about comfort, or are you trying to say if the white man was to enslave and let you leave comfortably you will forgo your freedom? Pls the minority rulership that does not consult with its people but instead denies them their legitimate political rights has no right to continue to lord over the people, no matter how comfortable you actually are leadership is above food and comfort but centres around Justice and accountability, their being used by their religious leaders(A story you invented) does not mean they should not ask for their rights, as long as the majority of people you lead do not want you or your dictatorial tendencies to rule them, then you should just leave. I notice because you are a Christian you believe Dictatorship is cool for muslims, so long as it grants you your comfort. I wonder when the Black man will be able to see beyound food and comfort and insist on their rights?

uplawal:
I just wonder why saudi(Sunni)govt would send troops to kill them in Bahrain,all in the name of supporting the royal sunni family that came in as settlers,and killing the majority indigines(shia) all because the indigines want the end to the Americanian puppet regime in their country,sometimes i wonder if people are actually muslims?many injustic i can't take no more.

uplawal:
@Illusion,Ape obey,and who are you?

I wrote all that all because i see your brain is not functioning as it should

Again get out of here,as a matter of fact you are not a muslim,so what are you doing here?

Always making fool of himself,

I just saw your stupidity again,saying am going for ifa,you should not have been blind to see i was only saying It should not be looked down upon cos thats what the indigenous Africans/your great great grandfather did before they accepted Christianity

Carry your madness go christian/athiest section and dnt show it here.

Lagosboy:
The first question simply means a nal s e x and that is another phenomenom amongst our holier than thou women nowadays here in the UK. The go sleeping around and taking it from the back preserving the front one and when they marry their husbands thinks he has an angel for a wife who is a "virgin".

In no mincing words a nal s e x is the only thing forbidden in islam when it comes to sexual matters as well as sex during mensturation. Aside these 2 things islam does not place restriction of any form on how we derive our sexual pleasures as long as it is with a legitimate partner.

And God knows best
^ Intensify the prayer well well

ifyalways:
I don't get the first question
@Bolded,May God also protect us from men who put pressures(directly or indirectly) on our women,Men who all their see in women is virginity and men who are not virgins themselves but wud have the effrontery to abuse a sister that is not a virgin.

Lagosboy:
Lady Hymen , long time

Reconstruction of whatever as far as i know would not be permitted in islam as it is plainly a fraudulent way of presenting yourself as what you are not. It is not mandatory in islam to marry a virgin aand a non virgin could well be married which leaves us to ask for the motive of reconstruction.

I am aware it is very common nowadays and may God protect us from such women who are out to claim what they are not, they are nothing but fraudsters who lack in self confidence and are plain hypocrites.+

And God knows best

uplawal:
I even have a Nigerian Sunni brother that works there as Quantity Surveyor when Shia Citizens are jobless.