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LagosShia:
"hymen",for your information,and if you check my posts i have already proven that somewhere else,Aisha was never married at a tender age.Aisha was born before hijra.when the Prophet accepted to marry her,it is estimated (in historical sources) that her age was no less than 15 years old.others have put her age at 19.

all the BS about Aisha being 9 years was just an attempt to hipe her status and make her look like an innocent baby that was wedded from the cradle.that was not the case.with all the evidence that exist that aisha was never tender when she was married by the Prophet,the followers of abu bakr still insist on defending the tender age.they still bring up silly logic to prove that it is okay for a girl of 9 to be married.that is to tell you the intent behind the age issue.aisha was never 9 years old when the Prophet married her.

Continue to deceive yourself.

Something is written in plain arabic for all to see & you're trying to call black white for us.

Don't get overheated for nothing like Al Qaeda,just spew the facts

[quote author=Abuzola ! link=topic=557855.msg7319823#msg7319823 date=1292163441]Hymen what is wrong with you , how dare you interfere in matter that is wrested to Islam, what do you know about islamic theology. Go back to your religion of bloodshed and cruciifiction, had he not die for them and shed his blood yahweh wouldn't have forgiven mankind, what a bloody yahweh. Instead of concentrating on the three ambiguous gods u have[/quote]@Abuzola,look who's talking about blood  No be bllodshed una dey argue about 

Anyway,stop behaving like an illiterate ,put out your facts reasonably & stop hyprventilating (I hope you know what that means ?)

And by the way - what do you know about Bayyajida ;your progenitor ? What you are arguing about is a significant period in Arab history,tell us about yours 

Onyocha=LagosShia=KwaraShia=ShiaMuslim=Karbala (naughty boy )

LagosShia:
1.) You said you did not post any hadith because I will call it “unsound”.far from it.i believe you have no positive hadith that you can present to avail Aisha.no matter how many hadiths you present,you can never rewind history and deny that Aisha was evil and a jealous person.do you want to deny the BATTLE OF JAMAL fought by Aisha against Imam Ali (as) who was then holding the office of caliphate?you cant! Do you want to deny that evil Aisha would prevent Imam Hassan (as) from being buried close to his grandfather?for what reason?
2.) I want to tell you as I have stated previously that Aisha is not the “best” wife of the Prophet.even the account of Aisha herself proves otherwise.she was jealous of Khadija even when the latter was dead and the Prophet use to defend and praise her.secondly,in your hadith book,Maryam,Asiya,Khadija and Fatima are called the best women of humanity.where is Aisha in that? I don’t need you to tell me nonsense and material arguments that Aisha was the only virgin the Prophet (sa) married.that is nonsense.
3.) We do not deny that aisha is the wife of the Prophet nor do we say that she is not a family member per se.we are simply telling you that Aisha based on her words and actions alone cannot be among the Ahlul-Bayt members mentioned in Quran 33:33 who were purified and cleansed.likewise we do not say the Prophet’s uncle,Abbass (RA),was among the purified and cleansed eventhough we love him and respect him.so your argument that we don’t regard her as a member of the household per se falls short of any evidence.also,I would like to warn you another time not to distort the holy Quran.verse 33:33 does not say “o women of the household”.it says “o people of the household”.it is also not directed at the wives of the Prophet because the verse uses masculine verbs unlike the previous verbs with feminine tense addressed only to the wives.

You can't really blame Aisha- she was penetrated at a very early age (9 years old) & probably knew nothing but pain all her life i.e VVF,RVF and other UGFs,in addition to various levels of psychological trauma.

May Allah guide us .

Its amazing how Hausa,Yoruba and other africans fight over historical intra-arab political squabbles

Can you even fathom saudis,yemenis arguing over infighting among Bayyajida's sons (Rano,Kano etc) or arguments between Ooni & Alaafin ?

Enough of this inferiority complex !!

God created us equals - Arab,Africans or Caucasian

Lagosboy:
Why the doubt? The testimony is simple in that she got her husband curious about Islam, her husband accepted Islam before her and it took her about 9 months for her to to willingly submit to her Lords command.

As long as a person shows sincerity for a cause , the almighty rewards the person with guidance and illuminate the heart. If you go back to the very first page on this thread and read my first post and reply to Habeebah ( Ify) you would see I said I sensed sincerity in her quest. One year later she is a Muslim and her husband as well to God be the glory. It is not my doing neither is it my answers per se but the sincerity in her heart which resulted in Allah guiding her And arresting her heart with his light.

I call you Hymen as well to the religion of bliss, I call you with humility and utmost respect to your beliefs to have a change of heart and open your heart to the light of Islam perhaps you might fall in love with the prophet of Islam and complete the love you have for all the prophets which I know you as you and I both love Jesus PBUH.

In Islam you will find increase peace in the heart with your lord, you would find a real connection with your lord , you would find real fulfilment in the heart. Finally you would have a real sense of purpose in life different from the natural acquisition of material wealth. Hymen you would in short find True success Inshallah.

May the illuminator of hearts guide you and shower his best mercies on you which is guidance. I wish you peace!

Dear brother ,I appreciate your kind words and sincerity as well.

I do love muslims & certain aspects of Islam - which by & large confirm my christian beliefs esp with respect to chastity ,decency etc.

However its difficult for me to become a muslima in light of  the low regard Islam ascribes to women.

ifyalways:
@All,Barka d'Jumai.
Im celebrating todays' own with my lovely husband who is now an Alhaji.All hail the PROUD alhaji wifey.

Alhamdulilah ! However, I'm beginning to Ify's 'testimony' !

Astragafrulah !

Interesting question from illusion . Why then do people talk as if the heavens will come down if a woman prays in front of a man,when its happen right at the cradle of Islam?

I don't agree too that God will not listen to the prayer of a woman on her period,another fallacy without basis.

I just listened to this on Youtube- I must say I just lost all my respect for Ruggedman.

The track is not only in poor taste but also delivered in a most unprofessional manner.

Is it a dance song ,R&B or what?

With the quality Ruggedd.man has been churning out over the last few years,I expect him not to respond to diss for the sake of it,but put time and thought into it.

He was obviously pressured to do this & definitely sacrificed quality & invariably respect in my opinion.

Up Liverpool. . .c'mon boys !!

I don't mean to be judgemental,but this story beats me everytime I read it.

A married mother of two was two-timing on her hubby and was eventually killed by a love-rival.

These oyinbos never cease to amaze me 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11592629

[center][size=14pt]File this under situations to avoid, never fool around with a skydiver. [/size]  [/center]

Els Clottemans has been charged with murder after her lover's secret girlfriend and fellow skydiver fell 13,000ft to her death  Allegedly Els sabotaged her friend's parachute after discovering her boyfriend's betrayal.   


Els Van Doren, 37, fell to her gruesome death in a garden in front of a group of onlookers. Els Clottemans, the scorned woman, 22, has been charged with her murder.

According to Reuters, the pair had joined hands in a star formation with two other skydivers including Els Clottemans’s boyfriend, a Dutchman named only as Marcel, who police say was having an affair with Els Van Doren.

When he and Els Clottemans broke away at 4,000ft when their parachutes were opened up, Els Van Doren, a mother of two, was unable to open either her main parachute or the reserve and crashed to her death in the town of Opglabbeek, Belgium.

All of this horror was captured on her own head-mounted camera.

According to reports in Le Soir, witness Wally Elters stated: “I was working on my plane when I heard someone on the ground screaming and pointing to the sky.

“I looked up and saw a black spot falling quickly to the ground. It was wriggling about and it was pretty obvious it was a person.

“Above it were three people in parachutes coming down slowly. Then it hit the ground. It was an appalling moment.”

A police spokesman said: “A close inspection of the parachutes leads us to believe they had been meddled with.”

Reuters reported that an employee at the airfield in Zwarteberg added: “It is very rare for one parachute not to open, but for two to fail is virtually unheard of.”

Els Van Doren’s funeral was not an easy affair, with Els sister's bitter eulogy. “You did all you could during that final jump to save yourself,” she was quoted as saying in the Belgian press. “But someone did not want you to live.”

Els Clottemans has subsequently been arrested and charged after a two-month investigation. Police became suspicious of Clottemans after discovering the affair between Els Van Doren and Marcel. All three had skydived togther for years.  She denies the allegations but is being held in custody.

Police have also disclosed to media sources that Els Clottemans has a sketchy past, and was arrested for attempting to run over a previous American boyfriend. He escaped injury and she was released without charge.

The Belgian press outlined Marcel's "Els" maneuverings, scheduling his love trysts so that neither woman found out about the other.

"In the afternoon, he would meet Mrs Van Doren after she had spent the morning working in her husband’s jewellery shop. Their relationship had begun some years earlier and the two would spend the night in nearby Eindhoven, before returning to the skydiving club the next day," reported Le Soir.
The unstable Els found out despite his crafty deceptions.

A statement from the public prosecutor said: “A thorough investigation of the available evidence and analysis of the motive provide sufficient reason for arresting the suspect. The investigating magistrate charged her with murder, issued an arrest warrant and had her locked up in Hasselt prison.

“In order not to jeopardize the smooth running of the investigation, no further information will be supplied. As has already been suggested in the media, the motive for the crime is most probably in the passionate area. The accused denies the charges.”

I really think we should all wake up & smell the roses.

Don't let anyone convince you that God has ordained an ancient & outdated lifestyle for our modern life.

Why should anyone even consider raising children in that kind of environment & some how prevent a woman from even raising an eyebrow . , all in the name of its 'Allah's wish' how laughable

Why must 'Allah's wish' always favour the men ?

They get the multiple wives,double inheritance & in case of matrydom scores of virgins in paradise

Not with people like Mark & bankole at the helm

Lagosboy:
seconded lols

Anyway , Long time u ve been away from the thread , hope everything is cool with you and I hope you are benefiting from the thread and have a better understanding of islam.

Don't mind him. I'm fine. Yes I am learning,thanks .

duduspace:
I support the real Reds and they are based in London and not Anfield. If care is not taken, Liverpool is about to go the way of Nottingham Forest.

Arsenal red ? Closer to pink if you ask me

zubeyr:
Muslims respect and revere Jesus and await his second coming they consider him one of the God greatest Messenger to human kind the Koran confirms his virgin birth a chapter of Koran is entitled Mary and Mary is considered the purest women in all creations the Koran describes the annunciation as fellows "Behold the Angel said God has chosen you and purified you and chosen you above women of all nations O Mary God gives you a word from him whose name shall be the Messiah Jesus son of Mary honored in this world and the hereafter and one of those brought near God

Why would an ordinary slave of Allah come back again ?

Has this happened before ?

illusion2:
or women shaving pubic hair (one of my main concerns with Islam ).

Dirty boy . . . lol!

yvyy:
my dear, those who r born again and truely understand d biblican meaning of marriage wont have dat issue at all.they will have d full understanding that in d marriage its no one's personal moni but OUR MONI.

Probably the most senseless contribution here. Typical of people who have nothing to offer.

Rather than proffer practical contributions to the discourse you start throwing 'born-again' into the mix.

Haven't you heard of Eddie Long ? Being born again guarantees nothing,when it comes to how to manage finances,it is serious business. . . . duh !

who dey vote for IBB dia ?

Dear Akin-GBOLA,sorry Akin-EGBA,you are trying too hard.

Both Saraki & your dad are thieves, unfortunately.

One is running for president ,the other is running from jail . . . . ojoro cancel

Liverpool rocks . . .MAN U sucks

abulbanaat:
We beat you in class and we still beat you in your religion. [s]'Shei owo te yen kiriyo won yi, asiri yin ti tu, musulumi ti me sin e[/s].' I know this will make you be angry the more. Expect a Qur'aan post soonest to add to your sadness.

I was honestly thinking the abulbanaat was a reasonable fellow until I read this.

So because you constantly took 10th position  all through your days at Oba Akinbiyi High School in Beere Oje,you have suddenly become the 'shinning light of the Ummah'.

Imagine the semi-illiterate claiming superiority because of Arab religion. . . olofo ! 

Can't even write your ancestor's language fluently ? 

Boasting about utter rubbish  ! 

Eru Arab 

fyneguy:


Kobo, my future wife, is scared of critics? Irony Irony Irony!

Kobo is actually NL's Caster Semeya,so be careful. . .

ferari90 is a dirty boy !

I love Liverpool

Liverpool all the way !!!

[center]^{I'm beginning to think he's using this thread solely to gain attention.}[/center]

OLAADEGBU, with all due respect I understand what you're going through . . . its honestly a psychological problem(no malice intended).

Its called delusion.

Take your time and research it.

How is works is this :

You believe everything in the world is somehow tied together in some grand conspiracy ,with you (OLADEEGBU)being a really important player in the scheme of things.

Any attempt to make you see reason is immediately resisted as part of the devil's plan - working hard against you and your celestial situation/warfare

WAKE UP OR AT LEAST SEE A DOCTOR !!!

I'm still waiting for the 'christian' General who was sacked by Saddam because of Americans,because Tariq Azeez(a christian that adopted a muslim name) was still Saddam's right hand man up to the invasion & he's currently serving a 14 year jail term.

So I'm waiting . . .

OLAADEGBU:
If the so called christians had been praying instead of compromising their faith if the had any at all they would have prayed that their president co operated with the opposing powers, a General who was a christian in Saddam's government was brave enough not to carry out the execution of some American hostages warning Saddalm Hussein in the process, he lost his job for it and as a result of this he survived the catastrophy that was to befall Saddam and his hench men.

Please provide details of this 'christian' general. I certainly hope its not another conspiracy theory