Davecut: But if u want proof of pitbull guard instinct download Once upon a time in Hollywood, watch d end and see what Bradpits pitbull did in that movie.
Davecut: Well I have been reading all the comments, I wouldn't support a rot over a pit cuz I own a pit n she would kill u man or animal if u der to cross boundaries. But if u need a good guard dog I would disqualify both n pick either a dolberman pincher or a GSD, easy to train and understand commands even when its coded n dey are damn deadly. But if u want proof of pitbull guard instinct download Once upon a time in Hollywood, watch d end and see what Bradpits pitbull did in that movie.
this is why you should not use movies to judge reality. the attack scene at the end of that movie was staged and done with a puppet not a real dog and let's assume it was a real scene, the dog in that movie is a 3yr old pitbull trained and owned by a stuntman and to do that scene they actually used 3 different dogs, they were thought how to attack on command, a lot of dogs can be thought that, it doesn't mean it's a good guard dog. the dogs were on a movie set with 100s of people and equipment and they lunged at a stuntman on command, what does that have to do with a dog guarding a house? do the two scenarios correlate?
Namdeenero: Bro forget all those things about how they were bred, only few people stick to breed standards these days... A pitbull can guard a house as good as a Rottweiler can maybe even better (From personal experience) Pitbulls have a more fearsome reputation than Rottweiler, just knowing you have a pitbull in your home is enough to deter any intruder
Rottweilers are more human aggressive and more territorial than pitbulls, that's what makes a guard dog a guard dog. even all the stories you told us now are about animal aggression, what does that have to do with guard capabilities? pitbulls can be used as guard dogs yes but Rottweilers are better more natural guard dogs than pitbulls. pitbulls are more aggressive towards animals than humans, it's the other way around for Rottweilers
Caleb91: so gsd has more bite force than pitbulls . . . i laugh at your blind ignorance i dnt argue blindly go and confirm for yourself on google then thank me later
if you're gonna use google as your reference point maybe you should consider using it sometime instead of hearing gist and assuming you are being backed with scientific facts
Namdeenero: I’ll say it again, anybody who says a Rottweiler can Guard a home better than a pitbull has never owned a real APBT before. There’s something that happened in Owerri sometime last 2 years, a man requested for a pitbull pup from a Breeder in Jos, there were lots of delays in bringing the pup so the man got angry and impatient, when the pup finally came the man saw the pup and concluded he wasn’t pure. I guess he mistook the APBT for an American bully, a friend of mine decided to board the dog for a while, weeks turned into months and this dog grew steadily into a beast. At 6 months the man saw the picture of the pitbull and decided to get the dog back probably because he was now looking more like a good dog, he paid boarding fees of up to 4 months and the dog was released to him. He kept the 6 months old pitbull with his adult alpha male Rottweiler ! Big mistake, cos the very next day the 6 months old pitbull pup destroyed the Rottweiler to become the alpha male in that compound. Note, I didn’t use killed I used destroyed cos the Rottweiler’s carcass was looking like it was hit by a high velocity train. The man sold all the other male dogs excluding the pit
The OP is asking which is more security conscious but all the stories you've said are about animal aggression. That is a completely different thing from being a guard dog. Rottweilers are better security dogs than pitbulls, they are more human aggressive and they are more territorial. Pitbulls are not guard dogs and they weren't even bred for that.
ChristoBam: Just check online bro. Pitbull is not for learners.
This is a study to show which dog is unstable with random human attacks in america, it's not a chart to show which dog is a better security dog. Dangerous doesn't mean best guard dog, it means more random human attacks
this can be caused by pregnancy or sickness, if she wasn't mated then I suggest you call a vet fast. put glucose in her water to keep her energy stable till you can get a vet and also try to force liquid food into her mouth if she isn't vomiting. but then again, if it turns out to be parvovirus then take away her water if not you'll only help it spread faster, put her on drip instead.
oshdot: Thanks guys, spoke with my vet concerning the ear, he claims cropping the ear now might cause a lot of bleeding, and I will have to nurse the wound for days if not weeks. Already considering leaving the ear by the way.
Mixed the dry food with the can food as advised, but the moment he sniffs the food and smell the dry food, he just walks away leaving the food. So tired, I wish I could just drop him is food and he eats right away, it's so exhausting.
oshdot: @IamAnderson just got my cauc delivered to me two days back with the ear not cropped, he is exactly 8weeks old now. Just wondering if the ear can still be cropped at that age.
Secondly, the dog just would not eat, I got him booster dry and canned food by the way. Is there any tips you can give to help with this? PS: I always soak the dry booster puppy food in water before serving him.
yes you can crop his ears, get an experienced person to do it. mix the dry food with canned food and try serving him
comradodavido: serious 12 months? so i have to wait for twelve months to see my mastiffs in full?
not necessarily, there is no exact age it'll kick in. your dog may even start showing it a month from now or 3 months from now, just relax. you shouldn't be judging how your dog will be as an adult when it's 4 months old
also one thing you need to know is that the bigger the breed, the slower the development. which is why most people that complain about puppies not showing aggression are large/giant breed owners. a 4 month old gsd is more mature than a 4 month boerbel you have to wait till the dog is mature before you start making any conclusion. at 4 months your dog is still a baby that wants to play, relax and let it grow, it's too young for you to start complaining online
comradodavido: and then? my shepherd was three months and was already aggressive
my dog was aggressive from as early as 4-5 weeks while some show aggression at 8 months, some show at 1 yr. different dogs have different development speeds, to my dog you dog is a late bloomer same way these dogs are late bloomers to your Shepherd. read the "my dog is not aggressive" threads here on NL and see how in the end the owners always come back to testify that the instincts kicked in later. territorial instincts are not like an alarm that comes at a particular age, the best thing you can do is to get dogs with territorial ancestors and also train your dog and wait till whenever it comes.
comradodavido: HELLO EVERYONE my boerboel is 4mths old and is not showing any sign of that killer instinct as my german shepherd dog.am confused cos it plays alot. what should i do
jl115: You have to remember only Dogs registered with the SABBS are Boerboels by law..........hence none SABBS registered dogs are not Boerboels!!
All Boerboels registered with the SABBS are big dogs, even those in Nigeria........I personally know of Plaaswag Hulk(88%) which was exported to a client in Lagos not to long ago!!
The problem is there are so many people advertising dogs as Boerboels in Nigeria when in actual fact they are not even remotely related to a Boerboel......Hence why I now understand why you said only 1-50 Boerboels look like the one in the Video!!
Judging by what you said earlier on this thread I would conclude that the standard of Caucasians in Nigeria is much better than the Standards of Boerboels in Nigeria........Hence why in Nigerian COs might very well be larger on average than the Boerboel!!
yes this is correct,south Africa has better Boerbel bloodlines so the standard between here and there is different.
Kaykay999: Bro go and rest oo You won’t find full breed in Nigeria. Unless you’ve a close relative in USA who can help you buy and send it down here.
you can find a purebred pup of any breed in Nigeria. it's your money that'll decide that, you don't expect to have 65k as a budget and get a good pitbull
jl115: The Boerboels in the video are average size.....They are Middelpos Alpha who weighed around 80-85kg(about my boys size) and Middelpos Dixie who weighs around 70kg.....
As i said i don't doubt COs reach this size however the Boerboels in the video are nowhere near the biggest
I just remembered you live in south Africa, big bloodlines are plenty there lol, so to you boerbels are so big. over here bloodlines that grow that big are expensive so their dogs aren't common, are you not seeing how Nigerians are loving mike even as you are saying he's not even nowhere near the biggest?
you're just used to seeing those pure champion bloodlines, come here and see even during BB appraisals and count how many are even bigger than mike. BB only grow that big when you get a solid pup which can cost around 200-350k meanwhile an average standard Caucasian of around 100-150k will grow bigger than the average BB of that price range.
jl115: Actually its the other way around mate refer to my previous post
see what I was trying to explain, Caucasians are naturally slightly larger or the same size with boerbels. different websites report around the same thing. boerbels are usually bigger when they're from big bloodlines, on an average the Caucasian is slightly larger
this is a popular video, I also have it on my phone and I've seen it several times lol BB's hardly reach this size and besides I've seen Caucasians that reached this size. out of 50 BB dogs gathered from different places you won't find 5 that are as big as this if you're lucky.
jl115: They don't....simply search their breed standards and look for yourself
the breed standard actually says Caucasians are slightly bigger.. on an average Caucasians grow bigger than BB, except the BB comes from a very big bloodline. a lot of BB's don't grow as big as shown
the difference isn't that much tho, it can go either way depending on the dog but the Caucasian is naturally the bigger dog
jl115: Anyway getting back to the point, Caucasians are slightly taller than boerboels however in terms of weight Boerboels are quite alot bigger.....
On average CO are 110-170lbs and Boerboels are 145-200lbs.
this is wrong.. you got these numbers from AKC right? there is actually no specific growth limit for giant breeds, the breed standard estimated limit for Caucasians is actually 220lbs while BB is 200lbs akc reports 170lbs but others report 220lbs