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asuustrike2009:
Indeed it's the holy spirit that teaçhes his children.
The Bible made clear in John 14:26
"But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you.
The holy spirit reveals deeper things that humanity can't comprehend from the Bible. You find that in 1 Cor 2:10-15
1 Corinthians 2:10-15 New International Version (NIV)
10 these are the things God has revealed to us by his Spirit.The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. 11 For who knows a person’s thoughts except their own spirit within them? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. 12 What we have received is not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may understand what God has freely given us. 13 This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual realities with Spirit-taught words.14 The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit. 15 The person with the Spirit makes judgments about all things, but such a person is not subject to merely human judgments,
Is Jesus God? Yes because the holy spirit reveals it through the word of God from same Bible. Here are some proves that Jesus is God

John 1:1, 14 (RSV) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. . . . [14] And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, full of grace and truth; we have beheld his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father.

This is one of the most well-known “proof texts”. Jesus is eternal (here, “beginning” means “eternity past”). He was with God the Father, and is God the Son. To make sure that the reader has no misunderstanding, John (v. 14) reiterates that the “Word” referred to is the Son, and notes that He “became flesh” (the incarnation). Only the Son has a body. The Word = Jesus = God.

John 10:30 I and the Father are one.

Jesus' hearers, unbelieving Jews, certainly understood His intent in saying this, because they tried to stone Him, as the next verse informs us, since they didn't believe His claim, which, if indeed untrue, would be intolerable blasphemy. 10:33 informs us that they tried to stone Him because (in their words) “you, being a man, make yourself God.”

John 20:28 Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!”

This had to do with the famous “Doubting Thomas” incident. Thomas didn't believe Jesus had risen, so Jesus appeared for His sake and told him to touch the wound in His side. Then Thomas believed and said this. If it were untrue, Jesus would have corrected him, but He didn't; He commended Thomas because he “believed.”

Colossians 1:19 For in him all the fulness of God was pleased to dwell,

In context, it is the Son Who is being described (1:13); He is eternal (1:15, 17-18), the Creator (1:16), and the unifying principle of the universe (1:17; cf. Heb 1:3): all attributes true only of God. Paul makes the notion even more explicit in the next chapter:

Colossians 2:9 For in him the whole fulness of deity dwells bodily,

2 Peter 1:1 . . . our God and Savior Jesus Christ:

St. Paul uses the same phrase in Titus 2:13 as well.

Hebrews 1:8 But of the Son he says, “Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever, the righteous scepter is the scepter of thy kingdom.”

This is a remarkable passage, in which God the Father calls His Son “God.” It is a reference to the Old Testament passage, Psalms 45:6-7.

In Hebrews 1:6, God the Father also says that all the angels should worship God the Son. Worship can only be rightly applied to God, as we know from Exodus 34:14 and Deuteronomy 8:19. Yet Jesus accepted worship of Himself on many occasions (e.g., Mt 14:33; 28:9) and stated that He should be honored equally with the Father (Jn 5:23). In Revelation 5:8, 12-13 and Colossians 2:6-7, we find that Jesus is worshiped in every way that the Bible specifically describes worship of God the Father, with all the same words used (see: Rev 4:9-11, 5:13; 7:11-12, and Rom 11:33).

Jesus is omnipotent (possesses all power):

Philippians 3:20-21 . . . the Lord Jesus Christ, [21] who will change our lowly body to be like his glorious body, by the power which enables him even to subject all things to himself.

He's omniscient (all-knowing):

Colossians 2:2-3 . . . Christ, [3] in whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.

He's omnipresent (present everywhere):

Ephesians 1:22-23 the church, [23] which is his body, the fulness of him who fills all in all. (cf. Col 3:11)

Another astonishing passage along these lines is one where Jesus speaks about historical events described as being done by God the Father in the Old Testament. He casually applies them to Himself (what might be called “the Divine 'I'”):

Matthew 23: 34, 37 Therefore I send you prophets and wise men and scribes, some of whom you will kill and crucify, and some you will scourge in your synagogues and persecute from town to town, . . . [37] O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, killing the prophets and stoning those who are sent to you! How often would I have gathered your children together as a hen gathers her brood under her wings, and you would not!
Many attributes that are said to belong only to “God” are applied to Jesus in Scripture.

Some readers here would think you wrote all these by yourself not knowing that you did copy and paste. You can't write things by yourself? This is what we told you not to do again and again, following your Pastors blindly. Well, they have already tied you with the oath that you don't have the Holy Spirit to interprete the verses.
Oh! You only follow what the writer said blindly I don't think you checked and think about what he wrote in his book.
Dave Armstrong

Dalam0n:
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Do younalso believe that pigs and monkeys are human beings that were punished by Allah for skipping the sabbath and trying to play a fast one?

Your brain is upside down sir, please rotate it.

true2god:
Even Mohammed had mental issues during his days. This was narrated by Aisha herself in one of the ha-death. If not, why will Mohammed call the Jews descendants of apes and pigs?

You can't do without insults, chai! By the way, Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) didn't call Jews descendants of apes and pigs. If you have proof to your claim bring it.

Dalam0n:
I met a crazy muslim yesterday. .

He said pigs and monkeys are human beings (Jews) that were disobedient to Allah and he punished them by turning them into pigs and monkeys during the time of Prophet Musa. I couldn't believe my ears because he was speaking with so much confidence.

Bro, the pigs and monkeys of now are not the disobedient companions of Prophet Musa (peace be upon him) .Rather, those ones have died.

BlauGully:
Allah isn't real. Shave your beard fool.

Òpònú(fool) I'm sorry to say that but I must.

ScienceWatch:
A genius without patience is a fool - Prophet Mohammed(pbuh)

Your question will be answered in due time. What proofs could you provide of your claims ?

Narrated Abu Huraira:

Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "No child is born except on Al-Fitra (Islam) and then his parents make him Jewish, Christian or Magian, as an animal produces a perfect young animal: do you see any part of its body amputated?" Then he recited 'The religion of pure Islamic Faith (Hanifa),(i.e. to worship none but Allah), The pure Allah's Islamic nature with which He (Allah) has created mankind. Let There be no change in Allah's religion (i.e. to join none in Allah's worship). That is the straight religion; but most of men know not..." (Quran 30:30)



Sahih al-Bukhari
USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 6, Book 60, Hadith 298
Arabic : Book 65, Hadith 4775

ScienceWatch:
Thanks for your kind reply. Your answer is not complete Sir. Could you tell us what Mohammed(pbuh) was before he became a Muslim ?

He was always a Muslim right from birth. Answer my question don't turn the table to me.

ScienceWatch:
I will be at the ACADIP next month, but not for salvation of my soul. I want to apply to be a guest speaker there.

I will speak about VALUE - perceived value vs real value from a worshipers viewpoint.

Why investigate religions value from the worshipers viewpoint ? Why not from the Pastor, Imam, priest's biased viewpoint ?
It is because most Pastors/Imams only see their members as personal assets.

1) They operate from the cowardly fear of losing their members to higher truths that can add more value to the members lives.
2) They fight to protect their status instead of their members needs
3) They love to have power over the people that why a member can get killed for leaving.

Members would like to enter the hallowed portals of truth to solve life problems, All great religions point to that higher portal of incredible power that can dramatically change their lives, their situation, their desperate need. These members want to see evidence in their lives, not a lifetime of empty promises. They have a right to demand that their God give them evidence that His words as preached by their Pastors/Imams are true.

The creator is a God of evidence !

Okay till then bro.

minijasper03:
please house, my neighbors are hindering my progress by placing jazz around my shop. as I have been to many prayer houses(even Alfas), and I was told that I should beware. i
have prayed and fasted, though I know that they would be defeated, but I need to know what to do next time such occurrences happen. thanks

Are you a Muslim?

ScienceWatch:
first tell us, was Mohammed also a Muslim ? I have a deep respect for all religion's, but your line of questioning prove that you an undercover Atheist

Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) was a Muslim. Now answer my question, was Jesus(peace be upon him) a Christian?

Proudgorgeousga:
as in eh even tolerant Canada also banned him.
There was even a debate in India on whether he should be banned but I'm not sure they followed through with it.

the guy is a radical Islamic televangelist propagating Wahhabism.

that's who the Op wants people to listen to, a mf wahhabi terrorism supporter.

Blackhoc nation is here again, Gbam!!!

ScienceWatch:
iamgenius, you may have noticed that I am not trying to get you to believe in Jesus, rather through our dialogue I am emphasizing truths that are well understood by those that have experienced the TRUTH about Jesus Christ. It is not my job to gather "unripe fruit."
The master gave this very powerful instruction, "The harvest is ripe, but the workers are few." I will not try to explain the meaning of this to you, but privately to the "ripe fruit." Your Logic will not enable you to understand this. It will just confuse you more. Take a break and worship your logic.

Stay where you are, but don't be a coward iamgenius to spray your corrosive sperm all over others sacred doctrines.

Continue ignoring those facts I presented to you. Bye bye

ScienceWatch:
What kind of Muslim are you that you falsely claim not to know your militant wing called ISIS AND TALABAN? Your topics on Islam reveal a serious problem or is your thinking the problem ?

You are only accusing me of what you have no idea about. Jesus is neither a Christian nor a Jew simple.

ScienceWatch:
True Christianity does not promise people anything, but the promises Jesus himself made to the world, not just to Christians.
Go see what Jesus Christ promised the world. You will find thousands of scientifically verifiable evidence of all the promises he made to the suffering masses. Dont be afraid, he never came to take you away from your religion. He never came to take Atheists away from their savior called No-God.

Where is that from Jesus' mouth in the Bible?

Learn the deeper meanings of this; Jesus Christ said, "NO ONE CAN COME TO ME, UNLESS THEY ARE SENT TO ME BY GOD."

NO ONE CAN COME TO god(your slained god) UNLESS THEY ARE SENT TO JESUS BY god(your slained god).

ScienceWatch:
What kind of Muslim are you that you falsely claim not to know your militant wing called ISIS AND TALABAN? Your topics on Islam reveal a serious problem or is your thinking the problem ?

Now you insult the mighty Jesus Christ, when you claim that, "the foundation of Christianity is pure business."
Jesus Christ is the foundation of Christianity !! Your corrupt logic betrays you every time, Iamgenius. Dump your deceiving moniker !

Really? Jesus Christ is the foundation of Christianity? Are you claiming that Jesus was also a Christian?

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ScienceWatch:
Iamgenius, you think like a Low-level Atheist. You are battling to find proof of the supreme superiority of the Son of God. That is why I referred you to Emmanuel TV. I never advertise any church, I am merely pointing to the most powerful spiritual learning tool that demonstrates every word of Jesus practically.

Not mere words like what you have been indoctrinated onto, Yet your prophet pbuh, saw fit to include Jesus in your Koran as a mightier power than himself. Power is not measure by talk, but action.

For the awesome benefit of the readers here ; The Holy Prophet TB Joshua freely gives tons of evidence of scientific medically verifiable truth in the church and on Emmanuel TV and youtube.com 24hrs per day, 7 days per week.
Not that medical science can ever be the judge here, as history sadly proves. Science is entrenched in materialism, GOD IS SPIRIT.

In the Holy Scoan Church, Nigeria, people of many different religions and belief systems, Kings, Professors, Medical doctors, rulers of countries, scientists, etc, etc from all over the world are healed of incurable dieases and delivered from the terrible scourge of demonic possession completely and then is often verified by a lower role player known as medical science.

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So whoever doesn't believe in your slained,stoned and crucified god(Nit God Almighty) won't enjoy or possess things of this world. That's weird! Even those that say there is no God are free of problems AT TIMES. what you don't understand about this life is that ANYTHING that is of this world can be achieved by WORLDY MEANS, then it's now up to GOD ALMIGHTY (not your slained god) to decide whom HE wants to give of this world.

ScienceWatch:
You wont understand. The Morning Water also known as Anointing Water is actually spiritually charged water. You wont understand this because you worship a God who's thinking and actions are limited to LOGIC.

Talk about advertising. You have advertised your religion extensively here on Nairaland for FREE. When will a start paying ?
iamgenius, You are also advertising The Talaban AND ISIS for FREE.

Did I advertise my religion promising people things of this world? You Christians do that, the foundation of Christianity is PURE BUSINEES by Paul the Corrupter and others. You remember in Antioch?

Jesus(peace be upon him) is not a Christian and not a Jew. ISIS and Taliban? Who are those?

ScienceWatch:
I have examined your topics on Islam and how you degrade Jesus Christ.
I have to remind you that I have never ever insulted any religion. I have never debated anyone about their religion accept the Atheists religion.
You are a fake Muslim. I am not insulting Islam when I venture my opinion of you. You sound like a gay Atheist with a low sperm count and a week erection, iamgenius. Both problems that you suffer from can easily be fixed instantly by the one you mock today. Medical science will charge you 16 million Niara to fix it with no guarantees. If it fails you pay again no discounts.

The world is rejoicing now that they can watch Emanuel TV anywhere in the world 24 hrs a day and witness how the mighty Jesus is restoring low sperm count and weak erections for free guaranteed.

You brag about your god. Why are you ashamed to tell us about it ?
Why do you take your Satanic frustration out on Christians ?

Show me where I degraded Jesus(peace be upon him) in my topics.

I'm a good Muslim to the best of my ability, I don't insult any Disbeliever in the oneness of God like you.

The world is rejoicing for watching Emmanuel TV? Okay, kudos to the owner of the TV and it's sponsors for perfecting their lies to the senseless people like you, I'm sorry to say that, but you are.

I like this verse


St. Mark 16:18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

Can you take SERPENTS WITH YOUR BARE HANDS?
Can you DRINK POISON?

I know you are like to say YES to the above questions, while you know yourself that you can't do those things. Oh! You can do it like the miracles Mr T.B used to do, but you know you have to go a loooooooong way before you can be able to do it. You understand what I'm saying nah, JUJU things, did I say JUJU? Oh! Sorry I mean Magic and tricks, India will be okay to learn it though.

There will be a program in Ibadan next month by ACADIP, you can join us if you care for salvation.

ScienceWatch:
SETBACK ARRESTED AS NEW BUSINESS SPRINGS TO GLORIOUS HEIGHTS

Mrs Angela Enrietti was Managing Director of a company which was hit by the winds of hardship. Knowing that she could not handle the problem with her human intelligence, she called on her mother and asked for the Morning Water. Her mother came down to Nigeria, received the Morning Water for her daughter and returned to South Africa.

Mrs Enrietti and her husband started praying with the Morning Water and committed everything concerning their business into God’s hands. Within one month of using the Morning Water, things started changing and God granted wisdom to start a granite mining business.

All their debtors suddenly payed up and their business took off smoothly. Today, the granite mining company exports products to other countries. They have been able to acquire state of the art equipment, including a crane. They lack nothing today and are very happy that God has lifted them up once again.

Testifying further, Mrs Enrietti also narrated how she was saved from a motor accident in a game park after ministering the Morning Water. According to her, even though the car she was driving somersaulted, she sustained no injuries as she saw the man of God pull her out from the wreckage of the car. Thanking God in company of her mother, she advised people to believe in God and His ability to heal, deliver and bring breakthrough in their lives.

blueAgent , bennyann , Pidgin2 , Kingebukasblog , Junia , Ken4Christ,

I'm not ready for you now.
This post of yours should be in the ADVERTISEMENT Section, you are advertising your pastor's business.

NASTYNASOSO:
HMMMMMM

BROS YOU DON MISS ROAD I STRONGLY DO NOT BELIEVE IN THE TRINITY OF GOD.
THERE IS ONLY ONE ALMIGHTY GOD.

Bro, he's still on the road where he will get his senses which he lost to Paul back.

MrOlai:
.جزاكم الله خيرا على ردكم علىه ىا اخى. انه مجرم صلابة. الله تبىن له الطريق الصحىح. امىن

Aamin and you too bro.

Emusan:
Jesus is not a representation of God but God Himself as The Word of God!

This doesn't mean Jesus is the entire God Himself.

Why most people do confuse the term of God for Jesus is because they don't understand it's about NATURE.

Did you hear yourself at all? You said Jesus is not a representation of God BUT GOD HIMSELF, and you are now saying JESUS IS NOT THE ENTIRE GID HIMSELF. Read what youwrite again and tell me if you made any sense.

If you say Jesus is part of God, now tell me God consist of how many parts?

alBHAGDADI:
When Jesus was crucified, he took upon himself the whole sins of mankind. God hates sin, so imagine how He felt when Jesus bore the sins of the world. It made Him forsake Jesus at that moment. Jesus was God made manifest in the flesh. The Sins which Jesus took upon Himself made God to forsake His manifestation at that moment. That manifestation had to cry back to the source which later resurrected him.

Rather Jesus forsake himself since he's God.The sins which God took upon himself made Jesus to forsake his manifestation at the moment. It's still the same thing with yours abi? Since both Jesus and god are the same. Òpònú.

Originakalokalo:
The child of a lion is a lion.
The child of a human is human.


The child of God is God.



How many times are we going to say this?

Jesus is the manifestation of God in the Physical.

He referred to the Unseen, Invincible and Almighty God .

He is HIS physical form. He is God.

I understand it so easily. Without stress, without bias, without an iota of doubt.

Why they don't see it as I do beats my imagination.

The holy Spirit helps in this case. If you don't have him, you will never understand Spiritual things.

Jesus said,. I have a lot of things to tell you.but you can't bear them now

. When the Spirit comes, he will guide you in all truth and teach you. He said this to his disciples.

I guess that's why something that is this clear is still vague to a lot of people.


Foolishness is the gospel to the thinkers.according to the scriptures.

I cannot help you or anyone else beyond this.

Everyone just keep opening threads upon threads on the same subject matter.

If you don't understand,

I pray that God will give you understanding.

You forgot to add this: The son of man is man.
Are you a child of God or Satan?

AlBaqir:
# First, do you agree Mut'ah was practised by SAHABAH and TABI'IN, and if yes, were they ADULTERER AND FORNICATORS?

* That is the challenge your mal'un brother has been evading all day.



# Now to the Issue: CAN MUT'AH BE PERFORMED WITH AN HARLOT AND SEX WORKERS?

Qur'an 24:3 reads:

"The fornicator shall not marry any but a fornicatress or an idolatress; and the fornicatress, none shall marry her but a fornicator or an idolater: and that is made haram for the believers."


# Al-Kulayni documents:

‘Ali b. Ibrahim ­ Muḥammad b. ‘Isa ­ Yunus ­ Muhammad b. al-Fudayl:

I asked Abu al-Hasan, peace be upon him, about the beautiful woman who is a prostitute: is it permissible for the man to do mut'ah with her for a day or more?" He said: "If she is famous for zina, then he must NOT do mut'ah with her and also must NOT marry her (permanently)."

Al-Majlisi comments: Muwaththaq (Reliable)

Source: Abu Ja’far Muḥammad b. Ya’qub b. Ishaq al-Kulayni al-Razi, al-Furu’ min al-Kafi (Tehran:
Dar al-Kutub al-Islamiyyah) [annotator: ‘Ali Akbar al-Ghiffari], vol. 5, p. 454, # 6



# Sheik Tusi also documents:

Ahmad b. Muhammad b. ‘Isa Muhammad b. Isma'il b. Bazi’:
A man asked al-Rida, peace be upon him, while I was listening, about the man who marries the woman in mut'ah and he imposes a condition upon her that he will not seek her child. But, she later comes with a child and he severely denies the child. So, he (al-Rida) said, "Does he deny? How can he deny primarily because of that?" Then, the man said, "What if he accuses her (of fornication)?" He (al-Rida) said, “It is not appropriate for you to marry except a faithful
woman. Verily, Allah the Almighty says: {The fornicator shall not marry any but a fornicatress or an idolatress; and the fornicatress, none shall marry her but a fornicator or an idolater: and that is made haram for the believers}.

Al-Majlisi comments: Sahih


Source: Abu Ja’far Muḥammad b. al-Hasan al-Ṭusi, Tahdhib al-Ahkam (Tehran: Dar al-Kutub al-Islamiyyah) [annotator: Sayyid Hasan al-Musawi al-Khurasan], vol. 7, p. 269, Ch. 24, # 82 (1157)



NB: I STILL DEMAND THE MAS'ALA OF AYATULLAH KHOMEINI. What idiots like you do not know is such book is about Question and Answer. On what condition does the mas'ala comes, you deliberately or ignorantly etched that part off.

Even before you reply me I know what you will say. I only allow fool like you go free when you are wasting my precious time.

AlBaqir:
# I am 100% sure that you have NEVER in your life see the book Tahrir wasila not to mention of verifying the copy-paste lies you just attributed to Ayatullah Khomeini and his book.

* So, I challenge you to post the scanpage of the book showing the cover page and the page of abovementioned statement that Mut'ah can be done with harlot and prostitute.

Failure to do so, you remain mal'un.

You are rather ملعون. This is what was said in the book in the eighteenth mas'ala it says and I quote word for word: "مسألة 18 - يجوز التمتع بالزانية على كراهية خصوصا لو كانت من العواهر والمشهورات بالزنا، وإن فعل فليمنعها من الفجور"

But we only need " - يجوز التمتع بالزانية" which means it's allowed to do mutah with a prostitute.

سوال:ماالملعون الان؟MrOlai او انت؟


جواب:: انت،مرات الف

PhuckJesus666:
Says the moronic rotblood filth who thinks that people who leave their religion must be condemned to death! You have no right to talk of shame, you stupid Mussulman!

Who be this? Get out from here jare.

Jesuschrist419:
congratulations

Thank you

Jesuschrist419:
Come and see mumu, am a married medical doctor and am just 27years. What have you achieved? Atheism is a personal decision, since i was 10years old i don't believe in God

I'm more successful than you Alhamdulillah (praise be to Allah)