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Islam › Re: Islamic Ruling On Blowing Oneself Up by iamgenius(op): 10:16am On Oct 27, 2017

emmygzy:
Na lie jor. It's common thing in Islam with a promise of fvcking virgin Pusey in paradise. Islam is a religion of killing and war.

Ignorance is following you, abi you are the one following it.

Islam › Re: Islamic Ruling On Blowing Oneself Up by iamgenius(op): 10:15am On Oct 27, 2017

closearms:
don't conclude for a religion you know noting about ... your verses you post are clear errors

Disprove it sir.

Islam › Re: Islamic Ruling On Blowing Oneself Up by iamgenius(op): 10:13am On Oct 27, 2017

QueenOfNepal:
Yell it to the Islamist and stop making noise

Sorry Òpònú, why did you run away from where you are being treated? Omashe ooo!!!

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Christianity Etc › Re: Beliefs Of Farrakhanism Or The Nation Of Islam by iamgenius(op): 10:00am On Oct 27, 2017

analice107:
Oh Tartar, how is that medical condition now? I hope you are recovering? Get well soon.

Now I know that you are very sick. Get out of here.

Islam › Re: Islamic Ruling On Blowing Oneself Up by iamgenius(op): 8:34am On Oct 27, 2017

QueenOfNepal:

I'm not sure it's haram because it's the only common thing we ve been seeing in Islam

Don't be a fool Ma.

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Islam › Islamic Ruling On Blowing Oneself Up by iamgenius(op): 7:16am On Oct 27, 2017

Blowing oneself up is suicide, which is haraam (forbidden) because Allah, may He be exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning): “And do not kill yourselves” [an-Nisa’ 4:29]. And the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “ … “Whoever kills himself with a piece of iron will have that iron in his hand, thrusting it into his belly in the Fire of Hell for ever and ever.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 5442; Muslim, 109.

This cannot be compared to the child in the story of al-Ukhdood (the ditch), because he did not kill himself; rather he was killed by the disbelieving king. And it cannot be compared to the story of al-Bara’ (may Allah be pleased with him) being thrown over the wall (to open the gates of the fort), or the hadeeth about charging into the midst of the enemy, for the same reason. In those cases there was the possibility of surviving, unlike when a person blows himself up. Moreover, such operations sometimes result in the death of a person for no benefit or very little benefit, or they cause the death of innocent people, or they lead to far greater revenge from the enemy.

This is what has been stated in fatwas by a number of senior contemporary scholars. The great scholar Shaykh ‘Abd al-‘Azeez ibn Baaz (may Allah have mercy on him) was asked: What is the ruling on one who blows himself up in order to kill a number of Jews thereby?

He replied:

What I think, and I have pointed out on more than one occasion, is that this is not acceptable, because it is killing oneself, and Allah says (interpretation of the meaning): “And do not kill yourselves” [an-Nisa’ 4:29]. And the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “Whoever kills himself with something will be punished with it on the Day of Resurrection.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 5700; Muslim, 110. When there is a legitimate jihad, then he may strive in jihad with the Muslims, and if he is killed, then praise be to Allah. But to kill himself by attaching explosives to himself, so that he is killed with them, this is wrong and is not permissible.

The faqeeh Shaykh Muhammad ibn Saalih al-‘Uthaymeen (may Allah have mercy on him) was asked about the ruling on suicide missions.

He replied:

We think that the suicide missions in which a person is certain that he is going to die are haraam; in fact they come under the heading of major sins, because the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “Whoever kills himself with something in this world will be punished with it on the Day of Resurrection.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 5700; Muslim, 110. He did not make any exceptions; rather this is general in application. Moreover the purpose behind jihad for the sake of Allah is to protect Islam and the Muslims, but this suicide bomber is destroying himself and by committing suicide is causing the loss of a member of the Muslim community. Moreover, it involves causing harm to others, because the enemy will not kill only one person (in retaliation); rather because of him they will kill as many as possible. Furthermore, this will result in pressure on the Muslims because of this suicide bomber who may kill only ten or twenty or thirty others. So it results in a great deal of harm to the Muslims, as is happening now in the case of the Palestinians with the Jews.

The view of those who say that this is permissible has no basis; rather that is based on a wrong perspective, because the negative consequences are many, many times worse than whatever can be achieved by that. They have no proof in the story of al-Bara’ ibn Maalik (may Allah be pleased with him) in the campaign of al-Yamaamah, when he instructed his companions to throw him over the wall so that he could open the gate for them. The actions of al-Bara’ were not bound to lead to certain death, hence he survived and opened the gate, and the people entered the fort. So there is no proof in this story.

End quote from Majmoo‘ Fataawa wa Rasaa’il al-‘Uthaymeen, 25/358

In fact he (may Allah have mercy on him) said in his fatwa for Majallat ad-Da‘wah (1418 AH), when he was asked about this issue: My opinion concerning that is that he is killing himself and that he will be punished in Hell for having killed himself, as is mentioned in a saheeh report from the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him)…

And Allah knows best.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Beliefs Of Farrakhanism Or The Nation Of Islam by iamgenius(op): 6:51am On Oct 27, 2017

Additions of Farrakhan:

With regard to the new beliefs of Farrakhan about Elijah, he regards Elijah as God, just as the Christians regard Jesus as God. In fact Farrakhan believes that Elijah is Jesus Christ.

He claims that Elijah did not die; rather He was resurrected and is alive, even though Elijah emphatically and absolutely denied the physical resurrection.

End quote from al-Mawsoo‘ah al-Muyassarah.

From these beliefs it is clear that these notions constitute disbelief and have nothing to do with Islam.

What must be done is to call these people to affirm Allah’s oneness and believe in Him, and that must be done by scholars and seekers of knowledge. Not everyone can expose himself to specious arguments and listening to falsehoods, when he is unable to refute them and highlight their falseness. Hence in calling these people, you must seek the help of those who can debate and argue with them, or give them books and material that explain true Islam, without indulging in argument with them when you are not skilled in arguing, for your failure to prove your point and refute their arguments could make them cling more firmly to their ideas and beliefs.

And Allah knows best.

Christianity Etc › Re: Beliefs Of Farrakhanism Or The Nation Of Islam by iamgenius(op): 6:50am On Oct 27, 2017

Foundation and prominent figures:

Its founder was born Louis Wolcott to a family that worked in acting and music and had roots in the Caribbean islands.

In 1956 CE he joined the group of Elijah Muhammad, who claimed to be a prophet and said that his teacher Wallace D Fard was God incarnate. When Malcolm X opened Temple Number 11 in Boston, Louis X was appointed to help him as a preacher and administrator.

When Elijah Muhammad expelled Malcolm X, he appointed Louis as the primary spokesman of the group, and gave him the title Farrakhan. Then he made him a preacher in one of the biggest and most important temples, Temple Number 7, which had been run by Malcolm X before he was expelled from the group.

The beliefs of Farrakhanism:

Farrakhan affirmed all the teachings of Elijah Muhammad, apart from a few simple changes. On the last page of every copy of the group’s newspaper, The Final Call, there is a statement under the twin titles of What Do The Muslims Want? and What Do The Muslims Believe?, which includes the aims and beliefs of Elijah’s group, exactly as they were stated in every single copy of the Muhammad Speaks newspaper at the time of Elijah, and as they are mentioned in every copy of the Statements of Elijah which are quoted from old copies of Muhammad Speaks.

Some of the basic beliefs of Elijah’s group that were revived by Farrakhan include the following:

· That Allah created Himself.

· That all black people are gods and among them a real god is born every 25,000 years.

· One of the black gods, who was called Yakub, created the white man as a result of some genetic experiments.

· That Muhammad ibn ‘Abdullah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) was sent to the Arabs only, and Allah sent Elijah to the blacks of America, and he is the last of the messengers.

· Farrakhan believes that he is the person meant by the disciple Peter who is known in Christianity, and he believes that he does not possess the power to give life, but through the voice of Elijah Muhammad, he will revive the Nation of Islam in its entirety.

· That the white man is a devil.

· That the black man is the one who composed all the divinely revealed books.

· Most of the teachings of the Qur’an are addressed to the messenger Elijah Muhammad and the blacks in America.

· There will be no bodily resurrection after death; resurrection refers to the spiritual awakening of the blacks who are asleep in illusory graves, and that awakening can only come about by learning of Elijah and his god, and believing in them.

· They say that if the Arabs really believed that Muhammad was the final Prophet, then we can meet and debate the evidence until we reach an agreement. But, you Arabs are racists and can never overcome this aspect of your nature which is similar to the nature of the white man, who is a devil. You and the Jews and the white men are all devils.

Christianity Etc › Re: Beliefs Of Farrakhanism Or The Nation Of Islam by iamgenius(op): 6:49am On Oct 27, 2017

3. The era of Warith Deen Muhammad

On November 24, 1975 CE, Warith Deen chose a new name for the organisation, which was the Bilalians, after Bilaal al-Habashi, the mu’adhdhin of the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him).

On June 19, 1975 CE Warith Deen repealed the rule banning whites from joining the movement, and on February 25, 1976 CE, a number of whites who had joined them appeared side-by-side with blacks in the convention hall.

On August 29, 1975 CE, he issued a statement that it was required to fast Ramadan and celebrate Eid al-Fitr.

On November 14, 1975 CE, the name of the newspaper was changed from Muhammad Speaks to The Bilalian News, then it became The Muslim Journal.

He announced that his title would be Chief Imam instead of Supreme Minister, and he changed the title “minister of the temples” to “imam”. He focused his attention on religious matters, and delegated other matters to the leaders of the movement.

He prepared the temples to become suited to holding regular prayers (salaah).

On October 3, 1975 CE, he issued instructions that prayer should be offered in the correct manner as known to Muslims, five times daily.

He addressed the Islamic concepts that had been wrongly embraced by the movement since the days of Wallace D Fard and Elijah Muhammad, and tried to correct them.

The things that we have mentioned above do not indicate that the movement has taken a completely correct Islamic direction, but they do indicate that there has been an improvement in the thinking of the movement compared to how it was under previous leaders. It still needs corrections in ideological and practical terms in order to be Islamically sound. End quote.

These are the stages through which this group has passed. Undoubtedly in the second stage – the stage of Elijah Muhammad – it was a disbelieving group that was outside of the framework of Islam, because of the beliefs mentioned above.

Unfortunately Louis Farrakhan has adopted the deviant ideas of the group as they were at the time of Elijah Muhammad.

In the source quoted above – al-Mawsoo‘ah al-Muyassarah (1/368) – it says: Farrakhanism is one of the esoteric groups in the USA that still follows the way of Elijah Muhammad.

Christianity Etc › Re: Beliefs Of Farrakhanism Or The Nation Of Islam by iamgenius(op): 6:48am On Oct 27, 2017

2. The era of Elijah Muhammad

· Elijah Muhammad declared that God is not something unseen; rather He must be embodied in an individual, and that individual is Wallace D Fard in whom God is incarnated, and he is worthy of supplication and worship. Thus esoteric concepts entered the thought of the group.

· He claimed to be a Prophet, and gave himself the title of Messenger of Allah.

· He forbade to his followers gambling, drinking alcohol, smoking, overeating, and adultery. He banned mixing of women with men to whom they are not related, and he encouraged his followers to only marry people within the movement. He banned them from frequenting places of entertainment and cafes.

· He persisted in the belief that the black race was superior, and regarded it as the source of all that is good, and continued to demean the white race and describe it as base and inferior. Undoubtedly only Blacks were allowed to join the movement; whites were definitely not allowed to join at all.

· Elijah Muhammad only believed in that which is tangible. Therefore he did not believe in the angels or in the physical resurrection. In his view the resurrection was no more than the intellectual revival of black Americans.

· He did not believe that Prophethood ended with the Prophet Muhammad (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him), and he declared that he was the final messenger, because no messenger came but he spoke the language of his people, and he – namely Elijah Muhammad – had come as a Prophet to whom revelation came from Wallace D Fard in the language of his people, the blacks.

· He believed in the divinely revealed Books, but he believed that a special book would be revealed to his people, the blacks, and this would be the final Book to be divinely revealed to mankind.

· Prayer at his time consisted of reciting al-Faatihah or some other verses or supplications whilst facing towards Makkah and keeping in mind the image of Wallace D Fard. This was done five times a day.

· They fasted the month of December every year, instead of fasting Ramadan.

· Each member had to give one tenth of his income to the movement.

Christianity Etc › Beliefs Of Farrakhanism Or The Nation Of Islam by iamgenius(op): 6:47am On Oct 27, 2017

The Nation of Islam was founded by Wallace D Fard who appeared suddenly in Detroit in 1930 CE, calling black people to his beliefs. He disappeared mysteriously in June 1934 CE.

He was succeeded by Elijah Poole or Elijah Muhammad (1898-1975 CE). The movement passed through distinct ideological stages, one of which was the Farrakhan stage, as we shall see below.

In al-Mawsoo‘ah al-Muyassarah fi’l-Madhaahib wa’l-Adyaan al-Mu‘aasirah (1/360), it says:

It should be noted that the ideas of this movement developed gradually, under the influence of the leader who ran its affairs. Hence the development of the movement may be divided into three periods:

1. The era of Wallace D Fard:

From the beginning the movement was known as the Nation of Islam, and was also known by another name, the Lost and Found Nation of Islam. Its most important aims were as follows:

· Calling for freedom, equality, and justice, and striving to elevate and develop the group.

· Focusing on the superiority of the black race, which they claimed was the original race; they emphasised their African roots, and showed hostility towards whites, whom they described as devils.

· Striving to divert their followers from the Torah and Gospel (the Bible) to the Qur’an, whilst continuing to take some ideas from the Bible.

Islam › Re: Sunni And Shia by iamgenius(m): 6:38am On Oct 27, 2017

The Shi’ah have many sects. Some of them are kaafirs who worship ‘Ali and call upon him, and they worship Faatimah, al-Husayn and others. Some of them say that Jibreel(Angel Gabriel) (peace be upon him) betrayed the trust and the Prophethood belonged to ‘Ali, not to Muhammad(peace be upon him). There are also others among them, such as the Imamiyyah – the Raafidi Ithna ‘Ashari – who worship ‘Ali and say that their imams are better than the angels and Prophets.

There are many groups among them; some are kaafirs (disbelievers) and some are not kaafirs. The mildest among them are those who say that ‘Ali was better than the three (Abu Bakr, ‘Umar and ‘Uthmaan). The one who says this is not a kaafir but he is mistaken, because ‘Ali was the fourth, and Abu Bakr al-Siddeeq, ‘Umar and ‘Uthmaan were better than him. If a person prefers him over them then he is erring and is going against the consensus of the Sahaabah, but he is not a kaafir. The Shi’ah are of different levels and types.

The one who wants to know more about that may refer to the books of the scholars, such as al-Khutoot al-‘Areedah by Muhibb al-Deen al-Khateeb [available in English under the same title, translated by Abu Ameenah Bilaal Philips], Manhaaj al-Sunnah by Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah, and other books that have been written on this topic, such as al-Shi’ah wa’l-Sunnah by Ihsaan Ilaahi Zaheer [also available in English translation] and many other books which explain their errors and evils – we ask Allaah to keep us safe and sound.

Among the most evil of them are the Imamis, Ithna ‘Asharis and Nusayris, who are called al-Raafidah because they rejected (rafadu) Zayd ibn ‘Ali when he refused to disavow the two Shaykhs Abu Bakr and ‘Umar, so they went against him and rejected him. Not everyone who claims to be a Muslim can be accepted as such. If a person claims to be a Muslim, his claim should be examined. The one who worships Allaah alone and believes in His Messenger, and follows that which he brought, is a real Muslim. If a person claims to be a Muslim but he worships Faatimah or al-Badawi or al-‘Aydaroos or anyone else, then he is not a Muslim. We ask Allaah to keep us safe and sound.

Similarly, anyone who reviles the faith, or does not pray, even if he says that he is a Muslim, is not a Muslim. The same applies to anyone who mocks the faith or mocks the prayer or zakaah or fasting or Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), or who disbelieves in him, or says that he was ignorant or that he did not convey the message in full or convey the message clearly. All such people are kaafirs. We ask Allaah to keep us safe and sound.

Note: Ali, Abu Bakr, Umar, and Uthman(may Allah be pleased with them) were some of the companions of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)

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Christianity Etc › Re: You Are Specially Invited by iamgenius(m): 7:51pm On Oct 26, 2017

Be there

Christianity Etc › Re: Invitation Card To Visit Nigeria For Divine Healing. by iamgenius(m): 7:40pm On Oct 26, 2017

[quote author=Mswahili1 post=61794126][/quote]Sir, this is the last time I'll advice you send me a mail.
I'll tell you what to do without visiting anybody. SEND ME A MAIL.

Christianity Etc › Re: Invitation Card To Visit Nigeria For Divine Healing. by iamgenius(m): 7:35pm On Oct 26, 2017

ScienceWatch:
How are you going to do that ?
Are you going to convince Mswahili1 that the mighty Jesus is impotent to heal him quickly and most effectively ?

Mswahili1 is not stupid, he knows by know that the real problems in Christianity is not Jesus. but the thousands of fake pastors that are not spiritually connected to the kingdom of God. The millions of Christian members are innocent in all this. It is the pastors responsibility to
get his spiritual recognition in heaven before the Holy Spirit will work through him. THAT IS WHY THERE ARE NO HEALING in most churches.

Okay Sir. I hope you don't forget the below...

Christianity Etc › Re: Invitation Card To Visit Nigeria For Divine Healing. by iamgenius(m): 3:14pm On Oct 26, 2017

ScienceWatch:
Mswahili1 be warned, if you send this Jesus hater your email you will never ever get to your healing.

iamgenius is a strange and dangerous combination of Muslim and Low-level Atheists. Carefully check his topics and mentions and see how he eagerly wants to destroy the deity of the mighty Jesus Christ.

You guys can't help him with anything spiritual, I want to help him by the grace of Allah.

Christianity Etc › Re: to the haters of islam I will just keep smilin @ you from now till the last hour by iamgenius(m): 9:42am On Oct 26, 2017

enilove:
You don't need to restrain youself from cursing me. Who can curse whom God has blessed?

Go again and read the hadith properly. Muhammed said he would be the first to cross the bridge. Why does he need a bridge if he is on the right side?

SMH for you.

Christianity Etc › Re: to the haters of islam I will just keep smilin @ you from now till the last hour by iamgenius(m): 10:55pm On Oct 25, 2017

Ken4Christ:
I pray that you will one day find Christ the Saviour. Allah never promised you salvation but Jesus did.

Did Christ get lost?

Christianity Etc › Re: to the haters of islam I will just keep smilin @ you from now till the last hour by iamgenius(m): 10:40pm On Oct 25, 2017

Should I say you are under a curse? Well, I won't say that. But, the Hadith you quoted didn't say the Prophet (peace be upon him) will stay in hell pending the judgement day. Abi, your brain is working anticlockwisely.

enilove:
Are you reading what people send to you or your quran and hadith?

Don't let people tell you about Islam, read the quran and hadith, that is when you can know what Islam is.

You have just been told a fact by Dr Zakir Naik that you should not be calling God but allah. If allah is God why can't you sau God.

Also , the fake story of heaven and hell you shared cannot lead you to heaven but give you fake hope. Your muhammed told you that he is going to hell like other muslims pending the judgement day. Read for yourself:

Volume 1, Book 12, Number 770:

Narrated Abu Huraira:

The people said, "O Allah's Apostle! Shall we see our Lord on the Day of Resurrection?" He replied, "Do you have any doubt in seeing the full moon on a clear (not cloudy) night?" They replied, "No, O Allah's Apostle!" He said, "Do you have any doubt in seeing the sun when there are no clouds?" They replied in the negative. He said, "You will see Allah (your Lord) in the same way. On the Day of Resurrection, people will be gathered and He will order the people to follow what they used to worship. So some of them will follow the sun, some will follow the moon, and some will follow other deities; and only this nation (Muslims) will be left with its hypocrites. Allah will come to them and say, 'I am Your Lord.' They will say, 'We shall stay in this place till our Lord comes to us and when our Lord will come, we will recognize Him. Then Allah will come to them again and say, 'I am your Lord.' They will say, 'You are our Lord.' Allah will call them, and As-Sirat (a bridge) will be laid across Hell and I (Muhammad) shall be the first amongst the Apostles to cross it with my followers. Nobody except the Apostles will then be able to speak and they will be saying then, 'O Allah! Save us. O Allah Save us.'

There will be hooks like the thorns of Sa'dan in Hell. Have you seen the thorns of Sa'dan?" The people said, "Yes." He said, "These hooks will be like the thorns of Sa'dan but nobody except Allah knows their greatness in size and these will entangle the people according to their deeds; some of them will fall and stay in Hell forever; others will receive punishment (torn into small pieces) and will get out of Hell, till when Allah intends mercy on whomever He likes amongst the people of Hell, He will order the angels to take out of Hell those who worshipped none but Him alone. The angels will take them out by recognizing them from the traces of prostrations, for Allah has forbidden the (Hell) fire to eat away those traces. So they will come out of the Fire, it will eat away from the whole of the human body except the marks of the prostrations. At that time they will come out of the Fire as mere skeletons. The Water of Life will be poured on them and as a result they will grow like the seeds growing on the bank of flowing water. Then when Allah had finished from the Judgments amongst his creations, one man will be left between Hell and Paradise and he will be the last man from the people of Hell to enter paradise. He will be facing Hell, and ...

If the above was the word of Muhammad , you need to pray b4 arguing . That is the only way to know the truth.

Christianity Etc › Re: Invitation Card To Visit Nigeria For Divine Healing. by iamgenius(m): 10:33pm On Oct 25, 2017

Mswahili1:
I'm in dilemma cousin as the man of God whom I had so many faith is considered scammer? So where can I go in this world?

I don't know but I have faith in TB Joshua as a prophet of God who has healed thousands of people around the globe and we can see the testimony through YouTube and people claim to receive healing after being prayed.

Simply in dilemma!?

Send me a mail.

Christianity Etc › Re: Invitation Card To Visit Nigeria For Divine Healing. by iamgenius(m): 9:51am On Oct 25, 2017

Mswahili1:
Even myself ik trying to figure it out my problem but I don't know exactly though it feels like someone has casted a bad spell on me.likes juju and Voodoo forces.

What are the strange things that happen to you?

Christianity Etc › Re: Invitation Card To Visit Nigeria For Divine Healing. by iamgenius(m): 12:16am On Oct 25, 2017

Mswahili1:
Good day folks!

I'm David aged 29 from Zanzibar, Tanzania. I'm spiritual attacked, sick, and solid depressed due to spiritual blockage. I have tried so many means to be delivered and healed from my sickness for years but without being successful.

Therefore I've decided to visit SCOAN in Lagos for deliverance and healing from my afflictions but I have tried for such long period of time email and contact SCOAN but they were muted and there was no reply by seeing that I've opted to come to Nigeria on my own but the barrier is that I have no one to invite me to Nigeria.

Matter of fact, I'm looking for someone brother from another mother... Or sister from another mother to invite me to Nigeria so that I can set my foot on the land of liberty SCOAN. I can't take it anymore the devil is getting stronger and stronger as I'm experiencing suicidal thought everyday of my life.

I'll be happy if one Samaritan will be willing to help me with the invitation to Lagos nigeria and God shall bless him/her as I know Nigerian are man of God and supportive.

Kind regards,
David,
Stone town, Zanzibar.

Tell me your problems, then I'll show you the way God's Willing you will get healed.

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Islam › Re: Ma Salam Wa Bi Salam (let's Talk Arabic) by iamgenius(m): 6:26pm On Oct 24, 2017

Empiree:
of course you didnt but your statement is in the borderline

So that we should be cautious.

Islam › Re: Ma Salam Wa Bi Salam (let's Talk Arabic) by iamgenius(m): 6:17pm On Oct 24, 2017

Raintaker:
~~Oga Bid'ah~~ , salam alaykum self is a general greeting in Saudi Arabia (Note ;not only Muslims live there).
But why do you like the Bid'ah talk so much?

Never call me at strikethrough again.

You are talking linguistically not islamically, I'm doing both. I hate my deeds and my fellow Muslims deed get wasted.

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Islam › Re: Ma Salam Wa Bi Salam (let's Talk Arabic) by iamgenius(m): 6:14pm On Oct 24, 2017

Empiree:
^^

Smh...I won't drag this. I knew you would end up saying this. Greeting is greeting. Just like saying "eld mubarak" etc even if sahaba didn't do it. But at masjid I frequent, they are adherents of salafism and their mufti said

"greeting is greeting if the content is khayr...doesn't matter if salaf did it or not. ..ignore the zealots "

For this reason, I wont drag this with you. It has nothing to do with bidah. So get over it.

Did I say it's BID'AH? Read what I wrote again.
The Imam is right.

Islam › Re: The Formation Of Man (sufi Perspective) by iamgenius(m): 2:49pm On Oct 24, 2017

@ dultmax Do Sufi also have their own version of the creation/formation of man? We want the Ahlu Sunnah perspective not Sufi or Shia or whatever perspective.
Are you not Ahlu Sunnah?

Islam › Re: Ma Salam Wa Bi Salam (let's Talk Arabic) by iamgenius(m): 2:33pm On Oct 24, 2017

^^^If you are talking as an Arabic language speaker then I say there's nothing wrong in saying: Ma'Salaam and Bi Salaam.

But, if you are talking as a Muslim, then I say, the greetings of Islam is sufficient for us. Do you claim to understand the Arabic Language or Arab traditions more than the Salafu Saalih?

THIS IS HOW BID'AH BEGINS.

Islam › Re: Ma Salam Wa Bi Salam (let's Talk Arabic) by iamgenius(m): 9:50am On Oct 24, 2017

It's not good to use both Ma'Salaam and Bi Salaam. Salam Alaykum and WA Alaykumus salaam is sufficient for us.

Christianity Etc › Re: Will You Be Attending Reinhard Bonnke's Farewell Crusade? by iamgenius(m): 10:30pm On Oct 22, 2017

hermosa7:
What are you even saying?

What are you even reading?

Islam › Re: Was Aisha Actually Not Six When She Got Married To Muhammad??? by iamgenius(m): 10:11pm On Oct 22, 2017

AlBaqir:
# Haven't you read the Qur'an? Allah says:

"Do they not then meditate on the Quran? And if it were from any other than Allah, they would have found in it many a discrepancy" sura Nisa: 84

That's a great acid test for any religious book claiming to be from God or spokesman of God. If Quran can call for that astute challenge, what is sahih Bukhari written 100+ years after Nabi?

# And yeah, we have submitted our expositions of sahih Bukhari, you can save "weak souls" by refuting our submissions.

Weak souls? My foot! Whose soul is weaker and even dead than that of a Raafidhi.

Islam › Re: Was Aisha Actually Not Six When She Got Married To Muhammad??? by iamgenius(m): 9:13pm On Oct 22, 2017

AlBaqir:
# You have the right to point out and expose the Rafidhi lies otherwise you will continue to sound like fo0l.

# This isn't about "we dont care what the non-muslim says", its about flaws in documentation of 100s of years yet believed to be sacred. That's silly and unacademic in this 21st century.

* Don't be silly. Read our submission, and attempt it academically if you can.

Shebi na you, you are not different from a Christian if we quote a verse of the Quran to them, they'll find fault in it. You always find faults in Saheed Bukhari, continue. I can't waste my time with you.

Islam › Re: Was Aisha Actually Not Six When She Got Married To Muhammad??? by iamgenius(m): 8:03pm On Oct 22, 2017

AlBaqir:
6. For the Prophet not to have rebuked Aishah (and even laughing) when he saw her playing dolls clearly suggest she was still of under age at that time. Remember, according to various hadiths as explained by Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani, playing with dolls is Haram (forbidden) but were made available for Aisha because she has not reached the age of puberty. This seems to be the only rational submission to justify Prophet's “approval” (of laughing).

Wait a minute! Did the Hadith says “When the Messenger of Allah (s) arrived after the expedition to Tabuk or Khaybar”? For a clear fact, expedition of Khaybar took place in the year 6 or 7 A. H while expedition of Tabuk took place in the year 8 or 9 A. H. Remember that our observation number 5 ii proved Aisha's age in the 4 A. H to be 9 years old; and that was when she claimed her marriage was consummated (when she became matured). In the year 6, 7, 8, 9 A. H (that Khaybar or Tabuk took place), we expected her age to have been 11, 12, 13 and 14 years respectively. What was she doing with dolls at these “matured” age brackets?

B. Imam Bukhari documents:

Yusuf ibn Malik narrated:
"...While I (Aisha) was a young girl of playing age, the following Verse was revealed in Mecca to Muhammad: 'Nay! But the Hour is their appointed time (for their full recompense), and the Hour will be more grievous and more bitter (54.46)..."

Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 4993
In-book reference : Book 66, Hadith 15
USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 6, Book 61, Hadith 515
https://sunnah.com/bukhari/66/15

7. According to the above Hadith we gathered the following:

i. Aisha was a young girl of playing age

ii. She witnessed the revelation of Sura Qamar: 46 and understood it.

What was the Period of Revelation of sura al-Qamar? All Mufassirun (Qur’anic exegesists) agreed that:

“The incident of the shaqq-al-Qamar (splitting of the moon) that hasbeen mentioned in it, determines its period of revelation precisely.The traditionists and commentators are agreed that this incident took place at Mina in Makkah about five years before the Holy Prophet's hijrah to Madinah”
www.theonlyquran.com/quran/Al-Qamar/Maududi_Commentry

Imam al-Hafiz ibn Kathir also agreed that sura al-Qamar was a Makkan Surah:
www.qtafsir.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=category&sectionid=58&id=73&Itemid=110

If Aisha was a young girl (Jariya the Arabic word as used in the hadith) and fully aware of a particular ayah that was revealed in Makkah 5 years before the Prophet's migration to Madina, how on earth could she be 6 years old in 1 A. H playing with dolls when she allegedly married to the Prophet?

Aisha was born 4 years after the Prophet's mission started in Makkah. See: https://islamqa.info/en/122534

For a fact Prophet spent 13 years in Makkah AS A PROPHET. This is proven in the following Hadith:

* Prophet became a Prophet at the age of 40, (remained in Makkah for 10 years and) spent 10 years in Madina (Sahih al-Bukhari 3548, Book 61, Hadith 57, https://sunnah.com/bukhari/61/57, https://sunnah.com/bukhari/61/56) ; and died at the age of 63 years (Sahih al-Bukhari 3536, Book 61 Hadith 45, USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 4, Book 56, Hadith 736, https://sunnah.com/bukhari/61/45). That is 63 – 40 = 23. If he spent 10 years in Madina as a Prophet, then he truly spent 13 years in Makkah as a Prophet (contrary to same Hadith that claims he spent 10 years in Makkah as a Prophet).

So, Aisha was born 4 years after the Prophet's mission started. Therefore, 13 years (of Prophet's mission in Makkah) minus 4 years (that Aisha was born), makes Aisha 9 year old while she was still in Makkah. This clearly confirmed her claim that she was a YOUNG GIRL when sura al-Qamar (verse 46) was revealed.

Therefore, if Aisha was 9 year old a year before the migration of the Prophet to Makkah, then she was 10 years old when she married the Prophet in 1 A. H, and 13 years when the marriage was consummated in the 4 A.H.

8. Are we to conclude that Aisha was 13 years old when her marriage was consummated (contrary to 9 years she claimed)? Absolutely NO. We still left a big problem at the observation number 6 where Aisha claimed she was still playing with dolls in the 7 or 9 A.H. This blow the whole package of Aisha’s acclaimed age as LIES. However, the lenient correction the Islam's antagonists and Sahih Bukhari's worshippers could get is that Aisha was 13 years old and not 9 years when her marriage was consummated otherwise “her claiming to be playing with dolls in the 7 – 9 A.H” will be a huge thorn in their throat (which no doubt exposed frauds in the so-called sahih ahadith).

Raafidhi, why are you lieing nah? The Prophet (peace be upon him) did the marriage contract with the mother of the believers at the age of 6, and consummated it at the age of 9. Simple as that. Stop your lies, okay. We Muslims don't care about what the non Muslims say, remember you and the OP are the same.

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