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QueenOfNepal:
Thanks. They don't discriminate which i find great. They are also very religious but they don't joke with education.



Ahmadiyyas are the true muslims

HAH:
Is Ahmadiyya not an association just like the likes of izala, nasfat, ansaruddin etc ?

One thing I am sure of is extremist always attempt at demonizing other sect even in the same religion and show that everyone is going to hell apart from those following their sect.

Personally Islam is

1, belief
2, salat,
3 fast Ramadan
4, zakat if you cannot afford
5, hajj if you can afford
Lastly
6, being nice and good to all people you meet wherever and avoid all things prohibited by the Quran

If you observe the above you are a good muslim damn the extremist

taoaliu1:
May Almighty Allah bless you for that testimony. How can you know someone without actually getting closer? They need to move close to an Ahmadi and also do balance facts finding on Ahmadiyyah. May Almighty guide us right

QueenOfNepal:
In this uprising around ten thousand Muslims were martyred, and they succeeded in having the Qadiani minister removed from office



Why Killing everytime?



I found out the Ahmadiyya practise a pure form of Islam devoid of violence. I have them as friends. They don't discriminate.



Ahmadiyya are the real muslims

password990:
Op please do research about the Ahmadiyya Muslim Jamat to know more about them. From ur write up i can say that you don't know anything about them, you just wrote it base on what you where told.

taoaliu1:
I am a proud member of the Ahmadiyyah Jamaat. We are everywhere across the country predominantly in south-west Nigeria and in the Northern Nigeria

seantunes:
We know you are stupid. You can stop trying to prove it.
(ahmaddiyah is the way)

Aminu212:
Do they live in Nigeria?

delishpot:
Was Mohamed the only prophet?

Why the focus on Muhamed? Just asking because I hear Muslims say there were plenty prophets so I wonder why they pick Mohamed

From the above, it is clear that:

Qadianiyyah is a misguided group, which is not part of Islam at all. Its beliefs are completely contradictory to Islam, so Muslims should beware of their activities, since the ‘Ulama’ (scholars) of Islam have stated that they are Kaafirs.

For more information see: Al-Qadianiyyah by Ihsaan Ilaahi Zaheer.

(Translator’s note: this book is available in English under the title “Qadiyaniat: an analytical survey” by Ehsan Elahi Zaheer)

Reference: Al-Mawsoo’ah al-Muyassarah fi’l-Adyaan al-Madhaahib wa’l-Ahzaab al-Mu’aasirah by Dr. Maani’ Hammad al-Juhani, 1/419-423

The following statement was published by the Islamic Fiqh Council (Majma’ al-Fiqh al-Islami):

After discussing the question put to the Islamic Fiqh Council in Capetown, South Africa, concerning the ruling on the Qadianis and their off-shoot which is known as Lahoriyyah, and whether they should be counted as Muslims or not, and whether a non-Muslim is qualified to examine an issue of this nature:

In the light of research and documents presented to the members of the council concerning Mirza Ghulam Ahmad al-Qadiani, who emerged in India in the last century and to whom is attributed the Qadiani and Lahori movements, and after pondering the information presented on these two groups, and after confirming that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad claimed to be a prophet who received revelation, a claim which is documented in his own writings and speeches, some of which he claimed to have received as revelation, a claim which he propagated all his life and asked people to believe in, just as it is also well-known that he denied many other things which are proven to be essential elements of the religion of Islam

in the light of the above, the Council issued the following statement:

Firstly: the claims of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad to be a prophet or a messenger and to receive revelation are clearly a rejection of proven and essential elements of Islam, which unequivocally states that Prophethood ended with Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and that no revelation will come to anyone after him. This claim made by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad makes him and anyone who agrees with him an apostate who is beyond the pale of Islam. As for the Lahoriyyah, they are like the Qadianiyyah: the same ruling of apostasy applies to them despite the fact that they described Mirza Ghulam Ahmad as a shadow and manifestation of our Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).

Secondly: it is not appropriate for a non-Muslim court or judge to give a ruling on who is a Muslim and who is an apostate, especially when this goes against the consensus of the scholars and organizations of the Muslim Ummah. Rulings of this nature are not acceptable unless they are issued by a Muslim scholar who knows all the requirements for being considered a Muslim, who knows when a person may be deemed to have overstepped the mark and become an apostate, who understands the realities of Islam and kufr, and who has comprehensive knowledge of what is stated in the Qur’aan, Sunnah and scholarly consensus. The ruling of a court of that nature is invalid. And Allaah knows best.

Majma’ al-Fiqh al-Islami, p. 13

Among the factors that make Mirza Ghulam Ahmad an obvious Kaafir are the following:

His claim to be a Prophet

His abolition of the duty of jihaad, to serve the interests of the colonialists.

His saying that people should no longer go on Hajj to Makkah, and his substitution of Qadian as the place of pilgrimage.
His anthropomorphism or likening Allaah to human beings.

His belief in the transmigration of souls and incarnation.

His attributing a son to Allaah and his claim to be the son of God.

His denying that Prophethood ended with Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and his regarding the door of Prophethood to be open to “any Tom, Dick or Harry”.

The Qadianis have strong ties with Israel. Israel has opened centres and schools for them, and helped them to publish a magazine which is their mouthpiece, to print books and publications for distribution worldwide.

The fact that they are influenced by Judaism, Christianity and al-Baatiniyyah is clear from their beliefs and practices, even though they claim to be Muslims.

Their spread and positions of influence

Most of the Qadianis nowadays live in India and Pakistan, with a few in Israel and the Arab world. They are trying, with the help of the colonialists, to obtain sensitive positions in all the places where they live.

The Qadianis are very active in Africa and in some western countries. In Africa they have more than 5,000 teachers and dai’yahs working full-time to call people to Qadianiyyah. Their wide-spread activity proves that they have the support of the colonialists.

The British government is also supporting this movement and making it easy for their followers to get positions in world governments, corporate administration and consulates. Some of them are also high-ranking officers in the secret services.

In calling people to their beliefs, the Qadianis use all kinds of methods, especially educational means, because they are highly-educated and there are many scientists, engineers and doctors in their ranks. In Britain there is a satellite TV channel called Islamic TV which is run by the Qadianis.

Their thought and beliefs

Ghulam Ahmad began his activities as an Islamic daa’iyah (caller to Islam) so that he could gather followers around him, then he claimed to be a mujaddid inspired by Allaah. Then he took a further step and claimed to be the Awaited Mahdi and the Promised Messiah. Then he claimed to be a Prophet and that his prophethood was higher than that of Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).

The Qadianis believe that Allaah fasts, prays, sleeps, wakes up, writes, makes mistakes and has intercourse – exalted be Allaah far above all that they say.

The Qadiani believes that his god is English because he speaks to him in English.

The Qadianis believe that Prophethood did not end with Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), but that it is ongoing, and that Allaah sends a messenger when there is a need, and that Ghulam Ahmad is the best of all the Prophets.

They believe that Jibreel used to come down to Ghulam Ahmad and that he used to bring revelation to him, and that his inspirations are like the Qur’aan.

They say that there is no Qur’aan other than what the “Promised Messiah” (Ghulam Ahmad) brought, and no hadeeth except what is in accordance with his teachings, and no Prophet except under the leadership of Ghulam Ahmad.

They believe that their book was revealed. Its name is al-Kitaab al-Mubeen and it is different from the Holy Qur’aan.

They believe that they are followers of a new and independent religion and an independent Sharee’ah, and that the friends of Ghulam are like the Sahaabah.

They believe that Qadian is like Madeenah and Makkah, if not better than them, and that its land is sacred. It is their Qiblah and the place they make hajj to.

They called for the abolition of jihaad and blind obedience to the British government because, as they claimed, the British were “those in authority” as stated in the Qur’aan.

In their view every Muslim is a Kaafir unless he becomes a Qadiani, and everyone who married a non-Qadiani is also a kaafir.

They allow alcohol, opium, drugs and intoxicants.

Intellectual and ideological roots

The westernizing movement of Sir Sayyid Ahmad Khan paved the way for the emergence of the Qadianiyyah, because it had already spread deviant ideas.

The British made the most of this opportunity so they started the Qadiani movement and chose a man from a family that had a history of being agents of the colonialists.

In 1953 CE, there was a popular revolution in Pakistan which demanded the removal of Zafar-Allaah Khan from the position of Foreign Minister and that the Qadiani sect should be regarded as a non-Muslim minority. In this uprising around ten thousand Muslims were martyred, and they succeeded in having the Qadiani minister removed from office.

In Rabee’ al-Awwal 1394 AH (April 1974), a major conference was held by the Muslim World League in Makkah, which was attended by representatives of Muslim organizations from around the world. This conference announced that this sect is Kaafir and is beyond the pale of Islam, and told Muslims to resist its dangers and not to cooperate with the Qadianis or bury their dead in Muslim graveyards.

The Majlis al-Ummah in Pakistan (the central parliament) debated with the Qadiani leader Mirza Naasir Ahmad, and he was refuted by Shaykh Mufti Mahmood (may Allaah have mercy on him). The debate went on for nearly thirty hours but Naasir Ahmad was unable to give answers and the Kufr of this group was exposed, so the Majlis issued a statement that the Qadianis should be regarded as a non-Muslim minority.

Bismillahir Rahmaanir Raheem

Qadianiyyah is a movement that started in 1900 CE as a plot by the British colonialists in the Indian subcontinent, with the aim of diverting Muslims away from their religion and from the obligation of jihaad in particular, so that they would not oppose colonialism in the name of Islam. The mouthpiece of this movement is the magazine Majallat Al-Adyaan (Magazine if Religions) which was published in English.

Foundation and prominent personalities:

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad al-Qadiani (1839-1908 CE) was the main tool by means of which Qadianiyyah was founded. He was born in the village of Qadian, in the Punjab, in India, in 1839 CE. He came from a family that was well known for having betrayed its religion and country, so Ghulam Ahmad grew up loyal and obedient to the colonialists in every sense. Thus he was chosen for the role of a so-called prophet, so that the Muslims would gather around him and he would distract them from waging jihaad against the English colonialists. The British government did lots of favours for them, so they were loyal to the British. Ghulam Ahmad was known among his followers to be unstable, with a lot of health problems and dependent on drugs.

Among those who confronted him and his evil da’wah was Shaykh Abu’l-Wafa’ Thana’ al-Amritsari, the leader of Jama’iyyat Ahl al-Hadeeth fi ‘Umoom al-Hind (The All-India Society of Ahl al-Hadeeth). The Shaykh debated with him and refuted his arguments, revealing his ulterior motives and Kufr and the deviation of his way. When Ghulam Ahmad did not come to his senses, Shaykh Abu’l-Wafa’ challenged him to come together and invoke the curse of Allaah, such that the one who was lying would die in the lifetime of the one who was telling the truth. Only a few days passed before Mirza Ghulam Ahmad al-Qadiani died, in 1908 CE, leaving behind more than fifty books, pamphlets and articles, among the most important of which are: Izaalat al-Awhaam (Dispelling illusions), I’jaaz Ahmadi (Ahmadi miracles), Baraaheen Ahmadiyyah (Ahmadi proofs), Anwaar al-Islam (Lights of Islam), I’jaaz al-Maseeh (Miracles of the Messiah), al-Tableegh (Conveying (the message))and Tajalliyyaat Ilaahiyyah (Divine manifestations).

Noor al-Deen (Nuruddin): the first Khaleefah of the Qadianis. The British put the crown of Khilaafah on his head, so the disciples (of Ghulam Ahmad) followed him. Among his books is: Fasl al-Khitaab (Definitive statement).

Muhammad Ali and Khojah Kamaal al-Deen: the two leaders of the Lahore Qadianis. They are the ones who gave the final shape to the movement. The former produced a distorted translation into English of the Qur’aan. His other works include: Haqeeqat al-Ikhtilaaf (The reality of differences), al-Nubuwwah fi’l-Islam (Prophethood in Islam) and al-Deen al-Islami (The Islamic religion). As for Khojah Kamaal al-Deen, he wrote a book called al-Mathal al-A’laa fi’l-Anbiya’ (The highest example of the Prophets), and other books. This Lahore group of Ahmadis are those who think of Ghulam Ahmad as a Mujaddid (renewer or reviver of Islam) only, but both groups are viewed as a single movement because odd ideas that are not seen in the one will surely be found in the other.

Muhammad Ali: the leader of the Lahore Qadianis. He was one of those who gave the final shape to Qadianiyyah, a colonialist spy and the person in charge of the magazine which was the voice of the Qadianiyyah. He also produced a distorted translation into English of the Qur’aan. Among his works are Haqeeqat al-Ikhtilaaf (The reality of differences), and al-Nubuwwah fi’l-Islam (Prophethood in Islam), as stated above.

Muhammad Saadiq, the mufti of the Qadianiyyah. His works include: Khatim al-Nabiyyeen The seal of the Prophets).

Basheer Ahmad ibn Ghulam. His works include: Seerat al-Mahdi (the life of the Mahdi) and Kalimat al-Fasl (Decisive word).

Mahmood Ahmad ibn Ghulam, his second Khaleefah. Among his works are: Anwaar al-Khilaafah (Lights of the caliphate), Tuhfat al-Mulook and Haqeeqat al-Nubuwwah (The reality of prophethood).

The appointment of the Qadiani Zafar-Allaah Khan as the first Foreign Minister of Pakistan had a major effect in supporting this deviant sect, as he gave them a large area in the province of the Punjab to be their world headquarters, which they named Rabwah (high ground) as in the aayah (interpretation of the meaning): “… And We gave them refuge on high ground (rabwah), a place of rest, security and flowing streams.” [al-Mu’minoon 23:50].

enilove:
What you quoted is true but no longer applicable.

It was part of laws God gave to the Israelites to keep them unpoluted by the idol worshippers around them. This was necessary to keep them holy pending the coming of the Lord Jesus or the Messiah.

God hates idol worshiping because it is directly giving glory to Satan and his falling angels.

Since it was meant to keep them pure for the coming of the Lord , and when Jesus came he gave us a higher standard of laws of living .No need to kill anyone again, Jesus has paid the price with his blood.

Matthew 5:38-39,43-48 KJV
Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:
39] But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. [43] Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
44] But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
[45] That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
[46] For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
[47] And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others ? do not even the publicans so?
[48] Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

We christian are aware and we know why those laws were given that is why we don't practice apostasy again.

But for the muslims, it a diff thing entirely. The Law in the Bible says if they turn aside to worship idols. But the Islam and Quran claim we worship the same God. If that be the case why must they kill anyone who leaves Islam for Christianity since they claim we worship the same God.

Op, you should have asked why Christians don't practice apostasy , despite being written in the Bible ?

What will religion look like if christians kill their family members crossing to Islam and other religions as Islam is doing right now. It would make many to hate religion or Christianity and Islam .But right now it is not the case. That is why people view Islam alone as the worst religion and religion spread by sword and for terrorists , since every muslim wants to be like muhammed.

It is the practice of Taqiyyah to say Islam is a religion of peace.

I hope the Op and other musims can learn from this .We have it in our Law but don't practice it because Christ has come to fulfil the purpose of that Law.

Jesuschrist419:
It's may sound weird to theist that an atheists is calling a non existent God to be a fool. Lets be honest the concept of God is for weak minded people. God please take my life this night if you truly exist. Please prove to Christians that you are so real! !!! Anyone can be a god just like otem. Eminem is God

hopefulLandlord:
let me play the impasta advocate here since Christians seem not to have your time

these are Judaic laws and do not apply to Christianity (anymore), what have you got to say to that?

Daniel058:
the truth is he's tens of thousands of times better than the founder of your religion. Now tell me what Paul did?

Emmanystone:
Once again? It ruled before?

Daniel058:
but if you are talking about the Paul I know, the biblical Paul, the one whose handkerchiefs heal the sick, you are making serious mistake.

Daniel058:
which Paul are you talking about?? Jesus himself is the prince of peace.

plainbibletruth:
Background
Israel is God’s covenant people. God’s plan was for Israel to send his message to the rest of the world. God’s plan was also for the Saviour to come through Israel. If he was accepted by Israel, the people will then carry his message to the rest of the world. God had promised as far back as Abraham that through him ALL THE NATIONS OF THE EARTH will be blessed. The seed of Abraham that was to be a blessing and mercy to all mankind is Jesus Christ.

Fulfilment
When Jesus came therefore, he was to present himself first to Israel. If they had accepted him AS A NATION his message of salvation would then be preached by his followers (not necessarily by himself) to other people.

They rejected him en mass, as a result he instituted the church which he still gave the same mandate to: “… you will be my witnesses both in Jerusalem and in all Judea, and Samaria, and even to the ends of the earth.” Acts 1:8

So, Jesus was right in saying that he was primarily to Israel. Yet his message was for all the world.

Daniel058:
no I clicked on the button so that I will be allowed to say the truth

shittufarukumar:
Mods if u delete dis wallahi I will unleash mahyem on nairaland. Since there is no freedom of typing again

Daniel058:
I am not a Muslim

ConcernedRusian:
What? Why is being an atheist such a horrendous thing to you? I know why - it's because you're a brainwashed muslim simpleton.



Atheism literally means the lack of belief in a god. A- meaning without, and -theism meaning gods and religion. The entire point of disbelief is the lack of belief in god. Allah itself is inconsequential due to the fact that Allah simply isn't real. The problem is all the mad



Is irony just completely lost on you, you silly Mussulman? LOOK IN A MIRROR! You can't even conceptualise atheism as anything other than some cruel and evil existence, you're that brainwashed by Islam. Here YOU are spitting what you've been spoonfed about the beginnings of the world!



Ooh, HERE COMES THE OLE' MUSLIM TAQQIYAH FOLKS.

ARE WE READY?

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YOU LITERALLY JUST ADMITTED YOU SUPPORT SLAVERY YOU IDlOT.

And BLA BLA BLA.

Amberon11:
Afraid of suicide bombers and pedophiles?

ConcernedRusian:
What are you, a fvcking ISIS drone? Get the hell out of here, neanderthal. If "Islam" even tries, the rest of the world will stomp it into paste.

victor44843:
Hi fellow Christians, i want to share with you what God told me on Monday and what will happen very soon. There is also a special warning for Christians.

On Monday 23rd October, 2017 when I was praying. I saw horsemen on a battle field, then I heard I voice that said "THE END IS NEAR", then God revealed some things to me.

I remembered when God said "He is raising an army", those armies are in this generation, they are the END TIME ARMIES. These armies are the ones that will preach to people and lead them to the light, they will win thousands of souls for Christ. Do you really know why God is raising those people to be His armies? It's because the rapture will soon take place but only few people will inherit the kingdom of God, although there are billions of Christians out there but very few will inherit the kingdom of God because of lack of knowledge and ignorance. These armies will tell the ignorant people about Christ and many people will believe and repent.
But do you know that Satan wants to kill those people before they grow up? But God didn't allow Him, because of that, Satan is now working tirelessly to distract these chosen people, He is now using some tools for His mission. But the one He uses most is technology and Internet, and it is a pity that many Christians spend hours on their phones or computers but they can't even pray for hours. As a matter of fact, Devil's main target is the teenagers.
And sad enough, not all of these chosen ones will be able to accomplish their mission on earth because of distractions and addictions. And as many armies that will successfully do what God wants them to do and when the number of Christians keeps growing, the Devil will come with a new plan and possess some powerful people and they will persecute Christians and force them to deny Christ(this is when the Anti Christ will reveal himself and force people to take his mark) then the prophecies in the bible will be fulfilled.

I'm afraid to say that this is the generation that the end time will come where we will experience tribulations and where many fake prophets will arise(these prophets will baptize people with Evil Spirits instead of Holy Spirits), as prophesied in Matthew chapter 24. Read 1st John chapter 4 on how to identify those fake prophets and fake spirits.
Also note that I didn't write down everything I was told, there are still more.

And Please I want to urge you today that you shouldn't be distracted from God, always find time to pray and worship God everyday, you might be one of the armies and I don't want you to be among those people that will fail, God wants to use you for something glorious, why don't you allow Him? And find time to pray always.

Read more@ http://christianityworldtoday..com/2017/10/end-time-alert-vision-i-saw.html