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ScienceWatch:
Have mercy ! We can exhaust ourselves for nothing. Arguing about nothing. 30 days from now we we will all be nowhere.
I have not forgotten your concerns, but we will be better prepared to debate when we come back to it.

I have no wish to convert you, that is not my job I have no wish to make you believe.
I am here lend support to those that have progressed from use of animal Logic, to include reason, and now have been initiated into advanced into spiritual intuition.

Consider the easily verifiable facts below;

Man was made in the image of God. God consists of a "Trinity."

Man has a body, mind and spirit = Trinity

God has Jesus and the Holy Spirit = Trinity

Therefore the scripture is correct about the fact that God created man in his image/like Him. A Trinity. Lets keep it simple for now.
To progress to your concerns we must slowly and carefully move through a maze of purpose driven falsity.Now we must answer a some questions for ourselves.
"Which part of our own trinity is the most powerful, or has the most impact on our life and can they exist independently ?

It will be best to leave it here till some answers come in.

According to your claim :

Man consists of three things : body, mind and spirit = Trinity

God has three things : Jesus, the Holy Spirit and "WHAT"? to make the equation balance for the Trinity claim. What is the third please?

Jesuschrist419:
I still remember Prophet Muhammad got married to Aisha when she was 6years old and started having sex with her when she was just 9years

Your problem with that, okay Muhammad was a pedophile right? Okay Mr Òpònú . Let me finish with them first.

Jesuschrist419:
another deluded theists

Get out boy, let me deal with this Christians first then we settle scores with you the creator of your own self.

ScienceWatch:
Man was made in the image of God. God consists of a "Trinity."

Man has a body, mind and spirit = Trinity

God has Jesus and the Holy Spirit = Trinity

Atheists pride themselves on having superior logical minds, I have not seen this among Low-level unregistered Atheist.

I hear that the OP is part of a group of Low-Level Atheistswich include 419ner that was recently released from a Mental Asylum because of a Nurses wage strike. Now they are on Nairaland to devalue the web-site.

If I ask you if you are a son of man or son of God, you would probably reply Yes. If you are both son of man (your real father) and son of God(your spiritual father) according to your logic then you are also GOD yourself.

ScienceWatch:
This time I sincerely apologize for refusing your invitation. I just received a call from heaven asking me to stop and not engage this Satanic inspired topic. I was told to rather post a warning sign on the front door of this post. Sorry OP, I must obey the commands of the Spirit of the light.

DO NOT ENTER ! Carefully observe why all the Atheists arguments have not produced a single benefit to suffering mankind ?
Time has great intrinsic value. Atheists are the greatest time wasters.

Genuine Muslims and Christians must never ever commit the sin of bowing to Atheists demands to "PROVE" the existence of God. God has already proven it to them. Let them prove to themselves that God don't exist !!!!

DON'T THROW YOUR PEARLS TO THE SWINE !

I strongly believe in the existence of God Almighty, and not Jesus as my Creator and God.
I'm a Muslim not an Atheist, check my profile and my topics.

enilove:
It is simple. Are you equal to your father. Would it not be an insult to take your father as your mate. Even God told us to honour our parents. But does that make you a less human being to your father.

Jesus christ called God his Father and they wanted to kill him.

John 10:30-42 KJV
I and my Father are one. [31] Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. [32] Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? [33] The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. [34] Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? [35] If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; [36] Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? [37] If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. [38] But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him. [39] Therefore they sought again to take him: but he escaped out of their hand, [40] And went away again beyond Jordan into the place where John at first baptized; and there he abode. [41] And many resorted unto him, and said, John did no miracle: but all things that John spake of this man were true. [42] And many believed on him there.


Saying "I and my Father are one "means......
He is God ( as said above , since his father is God )
Means God is greater than him ( Father is greater than son)
He is in one accord with his father in . He does what the father asks him to do.

The father is in him right? That makes him possess the power like God? Are you talking about two entities here or what, earlier you said Jesus is God now there is someone else who is also Father of Jesus(God).

Is the father the one who created Jesus and all creations?
Please answer my questions.

enilove:
There are so many verses in the Bible that makes it clear to everyone that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and he is God.

These were written more than 2,500 years b4 we were born. So we are not assuming but quoting those revelations

1-- John 1:1-2 KJV
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. [2] The same was in the beginning with God. ( TWO GODS )

How does that solve the problem on ground? Do you want to teach me the mathematics of your god, which is 1+1=1? Nay, I'm more intelligent than what you are being spoon feed by your pastors who claims to have the Holy Spirit in the interpretation of the Bible.

A revelation that was giving to Solomon about 1700 years b4 Jesus came affirmed or agreed with the above. Meaning it was not a mistake :

2--- Proverbs 8:22-36 KJV
The Lord possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old. [23] I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was. [24] When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water. [25] Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth: [26] While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world. [27] When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth: [28] When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep: [29] When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth: [30] Then I was by him, as one brought up with him : and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him; [31] Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men. [32] Now therefore hearken unto me, O ye children: for blessed are they that keep my ways. [33] Hear instruction, and be wise, and refuse it not. [34] Blessed is the man that heareth me, watching daily at my gates, waiting at the posts of my doors. [35] For whoso findeth me findeth life, and shall obtain favour of the Lord . [36] But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death.
( TWO CREATORS )

See you again, you are busted here man. There is no where in the book of proverbs that talks about Jesus. Why are you lieing against Solomon? He was actually advising his children from the beginning of Proverb 8:1, he didn't talk about Jesus at all. Stop lieing, you don't have to quote the Bible wrongly in order to cover up the lies,errors,flaws and contradictions in the Bible.

3--- Genesis 1:26 KJV
And God said, Let US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. (TWO CREATORS )

You are only confusing yourself the more you try to hide the contradictions and errors in the Bible. Are you saying that Jesus said he created man in his own likeness?

Or what you mean is that there is a God in heaven who created man in His own likeness and He also created Jesus also who is a man as well.

Or what you mean is that Jesus who is also the God created man in his own likeness?

You will only result to: Come on man, you don't have the Holy Spirit, if you were to have it you would understand the verse.

These verses are self explanatory. But still you need personal prayer of request to know him( Jesus Christ ) . If he is your Creator just say" Jesus are you my Creator , are you real , show yourself to my in your glory, to cast doubts away from me.

He will answer you if you actually want to know the truth and follow him.
Pray this in the night when you are about to sleep. Give him like 3 days every night.

He is real. I am a witness . He is real and more real than you can imagined.

I know that's what confused people like you will end your speech with. Holy Spirit? We are human beings we don't need Holy Spirit to understand God and his attributes. YOU ARE IN A PLAIN ERROR.

Xteljay:
He said those thing because he is d son of God

Are you saying Jesus is not God? I doubt you are a true Christian.

aribisala0:
I have read the Bible because I was told it wwas the word of God. In fact I have read it so many times. If I have not read it at all I have read it from cover to cover 20 times. I still do this at least 2 times a year .This is equally true for the Quran. I read them because they contain many good and useful stories and much wisdom too. They also help me to understand the history of the middle East where both books originate. I read the bible first as a child and so I grew up believing in the story of the Garden of Eden ,Adam and Eve etc. In fact I believed the Garden of Eden too was in the Middle East and that life started in the middle East. I believed the story of Noah and his Ark with all the animals sheltered from the deluge and alluvial wrath of God while the rest of Humanity was obliterated. The Bible goes on to tell stories of how God chose the Hebrews specially ,apart and above all mankind for undisclosed reasons. Saw them enslaved in Egypt and later released them miraculously.
As I got older I realized that there were similar stories here in Africa but also across the world and so I continue to read widely. I discovered that there were written records across the area know as the Levant with variations of many stories in the Bible that were either older than the Bible or contemporaneous.Eventually I concluded that many of this Bible stories were not and could not be factually true.They must be allegorical and if they are valid as allegories then our own myths of Ogisos with the Edo Oduduwa from the Sky Vishnu from India are equally valid allegories. I no longer would accept the story of Hebrews as chosen specially and above everyone else>They can believe that just like Messi believes he is the best so does Ronaldo. To say God said one is the best or the other is just not true. Te main difference is our people did not discover writing and many of their stories or allegories were kept as "secrets" for the initiated and mostly for men.

Of course I still wanted to believe in God but I was bride brainwashed to believe God could not be found among Africans so I studied the Quran. This time unlike the bible it has one author but the traditions and origins are the same i.e with the Old Testament.
The main difference is the Quran is an attempt to free Arabs from the inferiority engendered by the doctrine that the Hebrews are chosen by God. In fact the Quran repeats that idea but shifts to indicate God has lost patience with Hebrews and rejected them. Other than than it offere little new in Theological ideas. It is simple. There is only one God : Allah. Worship and obey him and go to Paradise ,fail to do so and burn for ever. The way to worship him is to follow my teachings(Muhammad) otherwise it shamelessly plagiarizes from sources that existed already in the region most notably the Torah

Research has shown conclusively that Human life did not start in the Middle East but in Africa there is little doubt about that anymore . If we are to believe there is such a God as the books suggest then that God started his relationship with man in Africa not in the Levant or Mesopotamia and yet these two books give no account whatsoever of anything relevant to black people or Africa.
It became clear to me that those books are the stories of their people and while it is not for me to go about slating them they are NOT for us Black Africans and NOTHING to do with us
Where they become a problem to and for us is when they require and force us to totally delete our own stories thereby making eternal slaves of us.We must see that for what it is and call it by its name

No one has seen God in a way that is incontrovertible or acceptable to all of mankind.Many have their own claims and they are entitled to them but please allow us too to have our own stories. Our own stories are better for us. If we must go on pilgrimmages let us do so in Africa

What do you wanted to do now? You have your brain up there, use it wisely and sincerely. Any reference regarding human life starting from Africa?

The main difference is the Quran is an attempt to free Arabs from the inferiority engendered by the doctrine that the Hebrews are chosen by God.

Where is that written in the Quran?

Let's ask enilove, ScienceWatch, alBHAGDADI, shadeyinka, Originakalokalo, zionmade1, analice107

OtemAtum:
It's what is happening online we know, we don't know what's happening offline. You should know some muslims can be so desperate.They take things ny force.

They want to bomb Seun ni, Òpònú Atom.

enilove:
God bless you.

That second to the last paragraph above was what I read and opened my understanding more about who Jesus is.


John 8:56-59 KJV
Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it , and was glad. [57] Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? [58] Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. [59] Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.

When I read d above, I went to read the account of Abraham and I discovered it is actually written that Abraham saw Jesus :

Genesis 18:1-3,22-23,32 KJV
And the Lord ( Jesus ) appeared unto him (Abraham) in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day; [2] And he ( Abraham )lift up his eyes and looked, and, lo, three men stood by him: and when he saw them , he ran to meet them from the tent door, and bowed himself toward the ground, [3] And said, My Lord ( not my Lords ), if now I have found favour in thy sight, pass not away, I pray thee, from thy servant: ...........[22] And the men ( Angels) turned their faces from thence, and went toward Sodom: but Abraham stood yet before the Lord . [23] And Abraham drew near, and said, Wilt thou also destroy the righteous with the wicked? [32] And he said, Oh let not the Lord be angry, and I will speak yet but this once: Peradventure ten shall be found there. And he said, I will not destroy it for ten's sake.


Abraham was a servant or messanger of God , how come he called himself a servant of Jesus , if Jesus was a mere servant of God like him.
No one can see God and live , anywhere we read that Moses or anyone saw God, we should know that it is Jesus Son of God they saw and not a mistake or contradiction Jesus is God the Son .

See how you are shooting yourself at the leg. Your last paragraph said it all.
In the Genesis you quoted up there, you pit Jesus in brackets indicating that he is the Lord
Abraham was referring to. The problems you people have us that you always misquote anywhere
"Lord" and "Father" were written in the Bible to suite your whims and desire of your false claims of God and Jesus.
The same Genesis you quoted up there has this:
Genesis 18:26 And the LORD said, If I find in Sodom fifty righteous within the city, then I will spare all the place for their sakes.
If it was the same Lord(Jesus as you claimed above) is the God in that verse, how come that God doesn't know the number of all the righteous people in Sodom since we all know that God know everything and nothing is hidden from him. Don't tell me that he forgot to take his knowledge of knowing everything with him while coming down to the world, Disgusting!

let me enlighten you as to who the Lord is in the verse,it was referring to the angels. If you read it with open mind, you will realise that the same people that came to Abraham were the same people who went to the land of Sodom and Gomorrah.

The writers if the Bible were good in exaggerating stories which they didn't witness at all.
Genesis 18:4 Let a little water, I pray you, be fetched, and wash your feet, and rest yourselves under the tree:
Is it the same god that you are talking about Abraham is about to wash his feet?
Jesus is claiming to be a man not His himself:

St. John 9:4 I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work.

That John is enough for you if you could but listen and think about it.

ScienceWatch:
Your summary is brilliant.

1) The forgiveness of sins.
2) The accusation of blasphemy.
3) God would not have granted the request for the forgiveness of that mans sins if Jesus committed the grave sin of blasphemy.
4) The Jewish holy men failed to interpret the words Jesus spoke and the Physical evidence corresponding to His words. "You sins are forgiven."
5) God said let US make man in our own image and likeness.

I believe the esteemed Nairalander, umarshek6 will agree that Enilove's summary is brief. This is a highly complex issue that cannot be understood using the lowest mental faculty known as logic, no matter how brilliant you are. (Carnal Mind)

I add more scripture that may be relevant ;

Jesus said, I and the father are one."

"I in him, and He in me."

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was God, and the Word was with God. Everything was made by the Word, nothing that was made was made without the word."

Jesus Has the Names of God. Jesus Christ possesses divine names—names that can only be used of God.

For example: Jesus is Yahweh. Yahweh is a very common Hebrew name for God in the Old Testament, occurring over 5,300 times. It is translated Lord (all capitals) in many English translations of the Bible.

We first learn of this name in Exodus 3, where Moses asked God by what name He should be called. God replied to him, “I AM WHO I AM. . . .Thus you shall say to the children of Israel, ‘I AM has sent me to you’ ” (verse 14). Yahweh is basically a shortened form of “I AM WHO I AM” (verse 15). The name conveys the idea of eternal self-existence. Yahweh never came into being at a point in time for He has always existed.

Jesus implicitly ascribed this divine name to himself during a confrontation He had with a group of hostile Jews. He said, “I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM” (John 8:58). Jesus deliberately contrasted the created origin of Abraham—whom the Jews venerated—with His own eternal, uncreated nature as God.

Jesus is Kurios. The New Testament Greek equivalent of the Old Testament Hebrew name Yahweh is Kurios. Used of God, Kurios carries the idea of a sovereign being who exercises absolute authority. The word is translated Lord in English translations of the Bible.

You are still not contributing to the topic, always saying the same thing and claiming one can't understand the verse without the Holy Spirit. God gave us our brain to think and we are not like animals. Jesus is Son of God and Son of man, he called himself those names and he didn't object to it when being addressed as a human being. What I just need from you guys is to bring a verse where Jesus says he is God, then I would believe every other verse you referenced. If you say you and your father are one; it simply means in doing some certain things but not everything. It would make no sense your Father give you every right as a father. It would make no sense you sleep with your mother and say since you and your Father are one so you are now your father. I know you would probably say I don't have the Holy Spirit.

MrOlai:
I understand your language clearly! I know where you're going! I understand what you mean by a snitch!

Your own case is like that of two-edged sword! Oloju meji bi obe!

You would be here and there! That's one of the attributes of munafiqun! I'm sure everybody in this section knows you for that!

Don't hide under any pretence to attack me! Bring it on! I'll give it to you squarely! I promise you!

Well said brother, one bottle of Zamzam for you bro.

enilove:
I have disapproved it 5 hours ago but no response from you.

Are you intentionally avoiding your own thread for lack of answer ?

Unfortunately, you are still repeating what albaghdadi said in his thread. You are not making sense at all. I couldn't charge my phone where I am right now that's why I didn't respond quickly. You can see my battery level up there.

zionmade1:
no lets combine it here, since its all about the religion of peace, the true religion of bombs and 72 virgins

The first time I got to know you, you like insults too much. But I like to reason and use my brain, but you are not making use of ur senses for good except insults.

zionmade1:
No am here bro
Oya lets talk about how Mohammed killed the entire family of saffiyya, his dear wife. Ohhhh merciful Mohammed had the kind heart to destroy a girls's family and still slept with the girl that same same day

We can do that in another thread, let's finish this one first.

enilove:
It the devil at work. He used muhammed and he will continue to use them until the world realises the evil this religion is made of.

Their followers are happy reading this and would not rise up against them but would come to tell you those terrorists are non muslims , which is a big lie.

It was what muhammed and his followers did to spread Islam.

It is a cursed religion from hell to destroy innocent souls.

Don't run away from my thread, go and defend it.

umarshek6:
ALLAH of course.
What has dat got to do with anything

If they can't refute my claims above, don't reply or mention them again please. I know they will result into insults about the Prophet(peace be upon him)

zionmade1:
Sorry am more interested in discussing the life of Mohammad. Afterall his life should be worth discussing till eternity since he is the perfect being


















that was an expert in acquiring widows

Stylishly running away, lol

albagdadi is no where to be found. lol

enilove zionmade1 analice107 please disprove my claims up there, don't derail my thread.

zionmade1:
U sound too angry and frustrated. Hope suicide is not ur next line of action.
Or rather did the bomb they strapped on u fail to detonate and u are missing ur 72 virgins already?.
If u want to kill urself, pm i have a free rope for u. U cant be suffering on earth wen u have 72 virgins (out of which 36 are 9 yr old kids and 36 are virgin widows) waiting for u in ur heaven (AKA hell)

Address the issue up there, don't do insult.

JESUS (PBUH) IS NOTHING MORE THAN A PROPHET AND THE MESSIAH ACCORDING TO BOTH THE BIBLE AND THE QUR’AN, SO HE’S NOT GOD!

“The woman said to Him (Jesus), “Sir, I perceive that You are a prophet.” [John 4:19]

“So they said to the blind man again, “What do you say about Him, since He opened your eyes?” And he said, “He is a prophet.” [John 9:17]

“And the multitude said, This is Jesus the prophet of Nazareth of Galilee.” [Matthew
21:11]

“Then fear came upon all, and they glorified God, saying, “A great prophet has risen up among us”; and, “God has visited His people.” [Luke 7:16]

Peter is recorded saying “And He said to them, “What things?” So they said to Him, “The things concerning Jesus of Nazareth, who was a Prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people, [Luke 24:19]

“Then those men, when they had seen the sign that Jesus did, said, “This is truly the Prophet who is to come into the world.” [John 6:14]

“they counted him (Jesus) as a prophet.” [Matthew 14:5]

“they took Him (Jesus) for a prophet.”

Matthew 21:46]

“Jesus said to them, “A prophet is not without honor except in his own country and in his own house.” [Matthew 13:57]

Jesus said, “Indeed, I am the servant of Allah. He has given me the Scripture and made me a prophet.” [Qur’an 19:30]

So it is established by this statement, they thought he was a prophet and He acknowledged this.

“Therefore many from the crowd, when they heard this saying, said, “Truly this is the Prophet.” Others said, “This is the Christ.” [John 7:40-41]

Now we have a distinction, Jesus is not just a prophet but the Messiah, of whom there is onlyone. The Qur’an confirms this so therefore the Qur’an cannot be a lie as so many Christians claim!

‘Then he asked them, “But who do you say I am?” Peter replied, “You are the Messiah sent from God!'” [Luke 9:20 kjv]

The woman said to Him, “I know that Messiah is coming” (who is called Christ). “When He comes, He will tell us all things.” Jesus said to her, “I who speak to you am He.” [John 4:25-26]

“The angels said, “O Mary, GOD gives you good news: a Word from Him whose name is `The Messiah, Jesus the son of Mary. He will be prominent in this life and in the Hereafter, and one of those closest to Me.” [Qur’an 3:45]

“The Messiah, son of Mary, is no more than a
messenger like the messengers before him, and his mother was a saint. Both of them used to eat the food. Note how we explain the revelations for them, and note how they still deviate!” [Qur’an 5:75]

“O people of the scripture (Jews and Christians), do not transgress the limits of your religion, and do not say about GOD except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was a messenger of GOD, and His word that He had sent to Mary, and a revelation from Him.” [Qur’an 4:171]

“The Messiah (Jesus) would never disdain from being a servant of GOD, nor would the closest angels. Those who disdain from worshipping Him, and are too arrogant to submit, He will summon them all before Him.” [Qur’an 4:172]

Prophet Muhammad (saws) said: “Do not over-praise me as the Christians over-praised Jesus the son of Mary. I am His slave, so say: ‘God’s slave and messenger’.” [Sahih Al-Bukhari and Muslim]

GOD IS NOT A MAN NOR SON OF MAN (HUMAN BEING), SO JESUS (PBUH) IS NOT GOD!

“God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?” [Numbers 23:19]


“Thy unclothedness shall be uncovered, yea, thy shame shall be seen: I will take vengeance, and I will not meet [thee as] a man.” [Isaiah 47:3]

Jesus (pbuh) is The “Son of Man” (a Human Being). There is not one Bible verse, Old or New Testament, that states that God Almighty, the Most High, is a man, ever desired to be a man, or intended to become a man ! In fact, he said the exact opposite. “God is not a man”. Jesus is called “son of man” 84 times in the Gospels. God called Ezekiel “son of man” 90 times in the book of Ezekiel. Whatever Ezekiel was, as to manhood, Jesus was also.

“Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know.” [Acts 2:22]


“Say (O Muhammad) He is Allah the One God, the Everlasting Refuge, who has not begotten, nor has been begotten, and equal to Him is not anyone.” [Qur’an 112]

JESUS (PBUH) HAS A GOD, SO HE’S NOT GOD!

“Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.” [John 20:17]

“Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ…” [1 Peter 1:3]

“At that time Jesus, full of joy through the Holy Spirit, said, ‘I praise you, Father, lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. Yes, Father, for this was your good pleasure.’” [Luke 10:21]

Jesus (pbuh) said, “And this is life eternal, that they might know You the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom You have sent.” [John 17:3]

“Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.” [John 7:16]

OtemAtum:

See confusion in the body of Abrahamic religions

Get out of here Item, you are not a Christian. Let me deal with them first.

analice107:
Mr Muslim, mind Islam you hear? Mind your lying allah.

Refute me then liar, worshipper of Paul's religion.

JESUS (PBUH) IS A SERVANT OF GOD, SO HE’S NOT GOD!

Jesus (pbuh) said; “Just as the son of man did not come to be served, but to serve.” [Matthew 20:28]

Behold my servant (Jesus), whom I have chosen.” [Matthew 12:18]

“The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, hath glorified his servant Jesus.” [Acts 3:13 RSV]

“For of a truth against thy holy servant Jesus, whom thou hast anointed.” [Acts 4:27 RSV]

JESUS (PBUH) PRAYED TO GOD, DOES GOD PRAY TO HIMSELF?

• Jesus prayed for guidance in places of quiet solitude – “Very early in the morning, while it was still dark, Jesus got up, left the house and went off to a solitary place, where he prayed.” [Mark 1:35]

“But Jesus often withdrew to lonely places and prayed.” [Luke 5:16]

• Jesus prayed for His disciples and for all believers -“Holy Father (GOD), protect them by the power of your name-the name you have shown me-so that they may be one as we are one” [John 17:11].

• Jesus prayed in praise to God, the Father – “At that time Jesus, full of joy through the Holy Spirit, said, ‘I praise you, Father, lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. Yes, Father, for this was your good pleasure.’” [Luke 10:21]

• Jesus prayed in a posture and with an attitude of reverent submission – “Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, ‘My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will’” [Matthew 26:39]

• Jesus prayed in times of anguish – “And being in anguish, he prayed more earnestly, and his sweat was like drops of blood falling to the ground.” [Luke 22:44]

GOD CANNOT BE SEEN WITH THE NAKED EYE. NO ONE HAS SEEN GOD, SO JESUS IS NOT GOD!

Jesus (pbuh) said; “No one has seen God at any time.” [John 1:18]

Jesus (pbuh) said; “Not that any man hath seen the Father.” [John 6:46]

“No vision can grasp Him, but He grasps all vision. He is Al-Latîf (the Most Subtle and Courteous), Well-Acquainted with all things.” [Qur’an 6:103]

“GOD continued, “But you may not see my face. No one can see me and live.” [Exodus 33:20]

“The invisible God.” [Colossians 1:15]

“Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honor and glory for ever and ever.” [1 Timothy 1:17]

Whom no man hath seen nor can see.” [1 Timothy 6:16]

JESUS IS NOT ALL-KNOWING LIKE GOD, SO HE’S NOT GOD!

“But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son (Servant), but the Father (God).” [Mark 13:32]
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JESUS (PBUH) IS NOT EQUAL TO GOD, SO HE’S NOT GOD!

Jesus (pbuh) said, “I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.” [John 5:30]

Another translation of the same verse:
Jesus (pbuh) said, “By myself I can do NOTHING; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me.” [John 5:30]

Jesus (pbuh) said, “The Father is greater than I.” [John 14:28]

Jesus (pbuh) said, “The father is greater than all.” [John 10:29]

“Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.” [John 7:16]

“Truly, truly, I say to you, a slave is not greater (meizon) than his master, nor is one who is sent greater (meizon) than the one who sent him.” [John 13:16]