₦airaland Forum

chidiokay:
Go nd check Wike countenance when the officier said. "i have integrity"

Lol the look on his face was priceless 🤣🤣🤣

ALTERNATEID:
Based on request from INEC and such deployment is approved by Mr. President.

Ok so why is it difficult for you to understand that based on request the military can also be deployed to protect a private property?

Reloadedisraelp:
So u don't know this... Some of una just waste school fee throway... who'll protect the citizens from internal attack?is it bandit or Boko Haram? ...ewu

Resorting to insult instead of answering a simple question is a sign of low IQ.

Soldiers were deployed during 2023 election in Lagos. Was there bandits or bokoharam attack in Lagos?

Let's hope you can answer this one instead of throwing emotional tantrum on the internet

ALTERNATEID:
The part in bold is the point a lot of Nigerians are missing. On what basis should our military be deployed to protect a construction site with a directive to shoot government officials who are on routine monitoring exercise? Are we in a war situation with another country over the property? Is that what we’ve reduced our armed personnel to? Instead of deploying soldiers to fight terrorism and protect the territorial integrity of Nigeria, we now deploy them with the directive to shoot government officials over an illegally acquired land. What a shame.

Like I’ve said before, all the soldiers involved in that illegal operation and show of shame including the person that deployed them to that site should have been arrested by the police and charged to court. I condone impunity far too much in this country and that’s why people get away with a lot of rubbish.

I will ask you just one question

On what basis are soldiers deployed to pooling stations during elections? Do soldiers have a constitutional role in Nigeria's electoral process?

When abuse of power using is normalized by the political class over the years, politicians lose the moral right to call out the military in situations like this.

This same wike used military men to intimidate voters while was rigging his state election. So how will they respect him? Add that to his brash condescending attitude and you have a perfect combination of reasons why the young soldier stood his ground

ALTERNATEID:
The part in bold is the point a lot of Nigerians are missing. On what basis should our military be deployed to protect a construction site with a directive to shoot government officials who are on routine monitoring exercise? Are we in a war situation with another country over the property? Is that what we’ve reduced our armed personnel to? Instead of deploying soldiers to fight terrorism and protect the territorial integrity of Nigeria, we now deploy them with the directive to shoot government officials over an illegally acquired land. What a shame.

Like I’ve said before, all the soldiers involved in that illegal operation and show of shame including the person that deployed them to that site should have been arrested by the police and charged to court. I condone impunity far too much in this country and that’s why people get away with a lot of rubbish.

I will ask you just one question

On what basis are soldiers deployed to pooling stations during elections? Do soldiers have a constitutional role in Nigeria's electoral process?

RandDigital:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAXtilaWe2I?si=qqTjJgEXee4U56ft

After spending more than 13 hours onboard a grounded aircraft at Johannesburg’s OR Tambo International Airport, 160 Palestinian refugees have finally been allowed to disembark and enter South Africa on Thursday evening.

Global Airways, the Johannesburg-based charter operator that flew the group from Nairobi to Johannesburg, confirmed in an updated statement that “all of the passengers have been allowed off the plane and allowed to enter South Africa," adding that they are in the process of clearing immigration.

Earlier in the day, the airline had said the passengers were declared inadmissible on arrival, despite the fact that their travel documents and passenger list had been submitted to South African authorities 24 hours before departure, in line with immigration protocol.

The passengers — all Palestinian nationals who left Gaza on November 12 — travelled from Israel to Kenya, arriving in Nairobi around 2am on 13 November, before connecting to Johannesburg on the Global Airways charter.

They were never assured of their final destination, and were only allowed off the plane at O.R. Tambo after hours of negotiations involving multiple government departments and humanitarian organisations.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYIxesryBnQ?si=rkzffyohsaiH7Zw5

Humanitarian organisation Gift of the Givers confirmed it was on-site to provide food, medical care, and accommodation to the exhausted passengers.

“These people endured 13 hours onboard in inhumane conditions after fleeing a war zone,” said Gift of the Givers. “Many of them wish to apply for asylum in South Africa, while others plan to continue to other destinations.”

Gift of the Givers founder Dr Imtiaz Sooliman earlier thanked DIRCO Director-General Zane Dangor and International Relations Minister Ronald Lamola for stepping in to facilitate the refugees’ entry, commending their actions as “in keeping with South Africa’s humanitarian and pro-Palestinian stance.”

Sooliman explained that the crisis arose because Israeli authorities refused to stamp the refugees’ passports on exit, leaving them effectively stateless when they arrived in South Africa.

“Israel deliberately did not stamp the passports of these poor people to exacerbate their suffering,” he said. “We thank the South African government for intervening and receiving them with compassion.”

Gift of the Givers teams are coordinating emergency relief efforts for the refugees as they begin processing their asylum applications.

Samantha I hope your country will not regret this move.... These people will not assimilate your culture and will soon start demanding Sharia law. My country is still dealing with the scourge of Fulani militia in the north who want to islmize Nigeria through violence.

It is well with Africa. I'm just pained because our leaders don't consider the interest and future of it's people to know what to fight for or against

Nyanabo:
We like to celebrate indiscipline in this our Country Nigeria. There's nothing special about what the Officer did that's commendable. If you claim you have the proper documentation to the land why not let them seal it and take the FCTA to court to proove your case ?

No body likes wike doesn't mean he's a bad person on all sides.

The burden of proof is on the accuser bro. The general has presented his documents. If the minister believes that the document is not genuine then he should go to court....or is that not APC people's favourite quote?

E reach oga turn to go to court now he is trying to intimidate young soldier. Nigerians are fair minded and that is why most people are showing respect for the way the soldier comport himself in the face of intimidation

IamAsiri:
At the point where Wike mentioned lawlessness, I laughed so hard

Lol same here.... It's the irony for me😁😁
The man lacks self awareness

buygala:
Some questions that I ponder on in view of this military/civilian conflict are:

1.........Did anyone compel these soldiers to join the military?...Why the excessive anger and disgust towards civilians?

2......Are they working for free so that Nigerians owe them so much?...They get paid while their bosses have almost equal access as top politicians to the Nation's treasury ....So what exactly is the reason for the sense of entitlement and feeling that they are above the law of the land?

3.......If they demand these extreme respect because they die defending the country, what then should accrue to the thousands who have died due to the failure of the country's security architecture?....We should worship those ones as gods and prophets then?...Isn't everyone at risk of dying in this country as it is presently anyway?...

4....While these soldiers have security in numbers and availability of ammunition to fight insurgents, ordinary Nigerians have mostly only their guts and instincts to protect them from the same criminals ....in fact some people in remote areas, long distance drivers and travellers are at risk of facing these criminals without any armed colleagues or ammo to back them up...Are these people also to demand exception from the laws of the land because they are brave enough to face criminals even unarmed?

Lastly, this "a General is always a General" talk, what law backs it up?...If it is true, what law is a retired General subject to then?...Civil law or martial law?...if he is subject to martial law, how then can be labelled "Retired" and not sent to war like his mates?....If he is subject to only civil law after retirement, how then is he still a General?...and if he is retired and still a General, what and which soldiers is he commanding, and to where exactly is he doing so?

What exactly is going on in this Country ?

Chief all this grammar will not change the fact that the minister himself is lawless. Why is he revoking allocated lands and giving to his cronies. The minister is not in the good books of Nigerians because of his arrogant demeanor. This man did suspended the law when he help to rig the last election and then orchestrate confusion in rivers HOA and then influence suspension of a sitting governor. He will insult TV presenters and talk without decorum. Is he the only minister in Nigeria?

Nigerians are happy because he finally met his match and it's a young man who refused to be intimidated

autoez:
In that case, we can eliminate the need for lawyers in our country. Soldiers will take on the responsibility of resolving civil disputes, and this change will work effectively.

Yes! Perfect solution

You cannot spend the last 10 years cheering a lawless government that has no respect for it's own laws and due process then suddenly wake up because your favourite actor could not bully his way through this time.

These people openly rigged elections, suspended a sitting governor and bragged about it but APC supporters clapped for them. I find it funny that people who supported these actions suddenly realised that Nigeria has laws now .

How can a whole minister go physically to enforce land seizure and then bring himself so low to insulting a genz? He has no respect for himself, talks anyhow without decorum and you expect others to respect him?

Compare this video to how Fashola handled military men that passed the BRT lane when Fash was governor.

In APC supporters voice ....Let the minister go to court

Ikaeniyan0:
Dumb statement by Shehu Sani. Nobody is bigger than the Nigerian law, what the soldier did is a big slap on the president face

Which law? The same law that wike and his APC people trample when it serves them?"

Which law are you talking about exactly?

stuffs2002:
Go to court if you feel agreived

So how is bringing the military to beat up people that come near the land is the answer

It's a two way street. Tell wike to go to court too

Go to court would have been the solution but you and I know how it will end under this APC government. So yes if I have the influence and connection to stop a rogue government official from infringing on my right I will absolutely use it

autoez:
It's important to recognize that the young soldier needs to focus on his primary responsibility: engaging in combat rather than getting caught up in civil disputes. Soldiers are trained to fight wars, and that should be their priority.

You are describing a normal country where there is respect for rule of law. Wike and his APC people have clearly demonstrated that might is right in Nigeria.

If you are the formal chief of naval staff who has a land with proper document that the building is about to be demolished tell me that you will fold your hands and allow your building to be demolished.

This is what happens to normal civilians everyday. If you complain they will tell you to go to court where their paid judges are waiting to pervert justice. Wike suddenly remembered that Nigeria has laws and constitution. Smh

NoToPile:
Hahahaha Nigeria a country.

Threat to National security loool

No way wonder the soldiers always see themselves above the law and they act recklessly.

They are one and thesame. The ogogoro man also believes he is above the law

stuffs2002:
The land issue being discussed is 100% civil and the military have no business being there in the first case but your hatred for Wike has completely blinded you to logic

So you know how many land with proper documents that has been revoked because the owners are not powerful and influential? Your thin god finally jam his match and you're here crying r

being:
As much as people may not like Wike, it is very irresponsible to be talking to a minister like that. Hw can a ministry or an agency of govt be on enforcement and then u say u follow orders.. however, where wike is to be blamed is his slowness to call d CNS Or CDS to order his boys out. Altogether. It is an embarrassment to the country that a security agency would prevent the work of a representative of govt. This is not much about wike but the chaos of the system. Indeed the c-in-c should actually issue a query to the CNS(since the officer was actually following orders) for allowing his institution to be involved in such lawlessness

Did you watch the video at all?

If you insist that the soldier insulted wike please write the exact insult here let's read....because from what I watched, wike was the one insulting the boy

autoez:
What kind of military officers are we producing in this country? You can’t even protect yourselves from bandits, how can you protect the entire nation? Yet, a baby soldier has the audacity to confront a minister who’s simply doing his job.

Which minister are you talking about? In a sane country should that character be a federal minister? You all clapped for him when he supervised rigging in his state just because of appointment. How can a minister bring himself so low to insult a military young man ? What is the problem with collecting people's land all over the plan and reallocating them to his own cronies?

The young soldier was professional and did not insult him back. All of you are just painted that your favourite bully finally met someone that he could not bully. If you want respect you must show yourself and conduct yourself in a respectful manner

SixSeven:
Nigeria has been living in denial and the politicians have run out of options. They have played all the cards they can but no human lives is worth their division. Even when I hear this current debate, I shiver when people are not bothered by non-Christians dying and they call it collateral damage. I have seen so far that African indigenous religion still remain very tolerant as they don't force anyone but adherents of Islam and Christianity in African want to force everyone to their side and don't remember the humanity in them.


They keep dividing us. They say you are Christian, that one is Muslim. You go to the north, they say you are not authentic Muslim, you go to the South, they say your Christianity is prosperity Christianity. One say you are Shia, another say you are Sunni. One say you are Tijanniyah, another say they are Aluh Sunnah. One say you are pentecostal, another say they are catholic. One say they are 7th day Adventist, anothet say you are 1st Night Celestial.

One say you are not Nigerian enough, then you travel out and another recognizes you as African. Then the African American says you're not from us, you are not us. You just have our blood. Another one say you are indigenous. They say you are Yoruba, they say your Yoruba is Akan, it is Ẹ̀gbá, it is this and that. You go to the South East, they say you are from a caste..... Do you see that discrimination never stops? You will never be able to satisfy human beings because they will keep dividing us no matter what. Think about it. Us vs them. Humanity dies.

Despite all the division every sane human being should recognise the sanctity of human life - no matter your creed or religion

The day we start rationalizing the killing of another human being is the day we lose our humanity. The north has been notorious for this.

Imagine dousing a human being with petrol and setting her ablaze while streaming it to the world and the perpetrators are known but they walk free today? These same set of people are harbouring terrorists on their states and defending their actions because of religious and tribe.

For how long will this continue. Trump should come and do the job since our government and military has decided to pamper the terrorist and look away

Berankis:
I didn't want to watch the video because I don't fancy watching people cry. But what I noticed is that she has placed her UK dream above her marriage. All her cries is not about separation or leaving her husband but about her imminent eviction from the UK.
I also seem to have heard the sound of a child in the video, so I think they have kids together. If it's not infidelity, I don't support men throwing their wives out even though I know women can be brutal sometimes, but for the sake of the family's togetherness (the children), men should be more patient.
The mentality of a woman is never the same as with a man.
I hope she gets the help she wants, Nigeria is currently not the best place to seek refuge right now. Everywhere is currently tensed up here now, not the best place to relocate to right now.

The children will be alright but the man will be miserable for life if he doesn't take that right decision now.

This kins of woman will be cruel to the husband and still turn the children against him...same children you are asking the man to sacrifice his happiness for. I have seen this happen to older men. Prioritise your sanity and peace of mind. The children will be fine

MrColdsweat:
After picking holes in the statistics for genocide, you turn around and advice your citizens

This is the comment I came to read! Your head dey there...

UK government and BBC denied genocide yet they are warning their own citizens not to travel to the very parts of the country where genocide is happening. Who is recieving who now?

I just pity poverty stricken APC supporters who are shouting sovereign nation upandan. E go soon reach their backyard

meobizy:
How did their operations in Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan go? What did they achieve?

And what has your own military operations achieved despite the billions spend buying weapons? Some of you sit in the comfort of your houses and amplify APC propaganda talking points out of sheer ignorance.

If your relatives are among entire villages and towns wiped out by these murderous jihadists would you be typing this comment on nairaland or demanding that the terrorists be wiped out?

HacheNoire:
Slaves are prone to follow the definitions of their masters without reasoning or questioning.

I don’t even think Wale knows the definition of “Genocide”

You that know the meaning can you enlighten us? Christian villages in Kaduna, plateau, Benue and Taraba are being systematically wipes out and you are here typing rubbish.

TheGift:
There is nobody arguing that there aren't issues in Nigeria.

But still it will be the height of foolishness to think America is doing this because they care about Nigerian Christians. They do not give a hoot about you. All.of that is just a pretext as we can.now see from the attacks on South Africa.

Or do you believe there is white Genocide in South Africa too?

What we should be doing is not asking America to come into Nigeria on their own terms. We should use this opportunity to.pressure government to unmask terrorists sponsors and make them face the law, even international law.

And even if by your Owm definition, we are not a sovereign nation, we will never attaint sovereignty by openly capitulation to the illegal threats of a Man whose own country is in a worse state than it has been in 40 years. A man, who has no respect for international.law and is hell bent on fermenting trouble.all.around the world.

Why did He not go to China that is clearly and.openly persecuting Urgyur Christians, since.he cares so.much about Christians.


Let us not be like the mosquitoes who went to ask for the help of insecticide, to kill the cockroaches living in with them.in the same house. And that is how they all died. Along with the innocent fly, who was not even involved

Your submissions are logical and sound and I understand your line of thought. Yes, America clearly have it's own interest....everybody does including chinese russians and french who are using bokoharam as shield to mine our natural resources in the north as I type this. But you see everything you wrote up there is under the assumption that we have a sensible President who will prioritize the lives of citizens above politics.

But you know that reverse is the case. We all know that Tinubu will gladly allow the killing to continue if that will guarantee northern votes for his second term agenda.

If I have to choose between being enslaved again by Americans or being enslaved by Fulani herdsmen and Jihadists in my own country I will gladly take the American slavery.

The killings must stop now! This is our opportunity as the world attention is currently focused on Nigeria. If Nigeria loses the war against these terrorists do you know the scale of humanitarian crisis that it will trigger? Where will you and I run to? Even if you run abroad can you take your parent and entire family with you?

Originalsly:
I'm referring to Adeboye. Isn't Nigeria a sovereign State? ... or are we still a colony? What happens within a State does not determine if it's sovereign or not. Whether the government is in total control ....as in North Korea. ....or no control ...as in Haiti ...does not determine if the State is a sovereign one.

Nigeria is not sovereign.

You were invaded by at least 5 nations 10 years ago and it was politicians that invited the invasion.

If you don't know this then I don't know how to proceed with this conversation

NOETHNICITY:
America gave rise to them by sponsoring boko haram and proliferating heavy weapons in Africa. America seeks destabilization, not peace. And if you don’t know this, then it’s because you’re still growing.

Ok so let's assume that you are correct and America sponsored Fulani herdsman from Mali and Niger to come into Nigeria and kill Nigerians....so what is the response of our own government and military?

The military is very quick to declare python dance crocodile smile against IPOB but Fulani terrorist killers are above the law. If the government will not listen to we the citizens that are asking the government to do it's job then I whole heartedly support trump to come and wipe them out.

UAE sent list of northerners sponsoring bokoharam but APC government swept it under the carpet. Not one of them had been arrested or prosecuted till today. The killers of Deborah who burnt her alive on social media are roaming freely. If you support this government action in the name of stupid sovereignty then you are also complicit.


We are not sovereign and we have never been. Fulani herdmen, Chinese, Russians, french have invaded the north east in the same country where you are shouting sovereignty.

The first duty of any responsible government is protection of live

Is it until the killing gets to your door step before you see the script playing out?
How can you have millions of your own citizens in IDP camps for over 10years now while foreigners kill and takeover their land and villages

Originalsly:
Traitor or coward. Why should Tinubu be begging Trump for a 100 days? Are we not a sovereign country? Whose side is he on? These colonialized Africans are the ones that's keeping us down. Instead of standing up to Trump he is bowing to him. Imagine Jesus getting involved in the politics of the time ...going to sit down and talk with the leaders. Hypocrites everywhere.

Chief do you know the meaning of this word you are throwing around? Do you know what it means to be a sovereign nation?

Which sovereign nation's government negotiates with terrorists while they kill citizens on a daily basis? Be speaking grammar there. You better advise your druggie to wipe them out else your 2nd term campaign o to lo!

ebukal67x:
Pastor Adeboye should have advised Donald Trump to stay away from the invasion of Nigeria suggestion.

If you live in this country then you would know that Nigeria has been invaded already

NOETHNICITY:
This what you get when you have a clown as president. I suggest Tinubu should continue to ignore Trump. He hates Africa

So you like the way Fulani herdsmen and bokoharam are killing Nigerians. Is it because not affected any of your family members?

I lived in the north and I know what the people are facing daily. You guys are so laid back and willing to spread propaganda because you think you are safe. Don't worry keep encouraging tinubu to turn a blind eye until it reaches you and your family members

Chachalogo:
Sir, that they are Almajeris doesn't erase the fact they are from existing homes. They very much have their parents, except in some cases where a parent or both parents have passed on. They only went on a study and will return home when they're done. They do visit home and their parents do visit them at set times.

Okay thanks for the explanation

HgAkpobomeEr:
Sovereign states should be allowed to handle their affairs without external meddling.

In your mind now you think that Nigeria is sovereign. Do you know the meaning of sovereignty?

APC has since surrendered Nigerian sovereignty to Fulani herdsmen, Chinese, Russians and French. They are all in your forests from north to South west.

What sovereignty are you talking about ?