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Christianity EtcRe: Beware Of These Set Of Pastors by Iamzik: 9:39pm On Jun 11, 2025
Ken4Christ:
We still have Levites today in a sense doing more important task than the Levites if old. The old Testament is a type and shadow of the new. Tithing didn't start from the law and as such couldn't have stopped because the law was abolished.

Jesus did instruct us to sell what we have and give alms. He first told the young rich ruler to do it. And he also said it in generic terms:

Luke 12:32-33
32 Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom.

33 Sell that ye have, and give alms; provide yourselves bags which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that faileth not, where no thief approacheth, neither moth corrupteth.

The early church did it on two recorded occasions

Concerning the overflowing measure I mentioned, you are right we don't have to wait for it. I agree with you on this. I just said it to at least let churches already enjoying overflowing financial grace try and reach out to the poor.

But the tithe system is good for the church. It's not a burdensome sacrifice. So many give much more than that. Only those who are not actively involved in the work of the ministry condemn tithing.

Pastors who preach against it run their churches without structures that requires to employ staff to be paid.
There are no Levites sir - not even in present day Israel much less in Nigeria but I don't want to repeat I've said before. And no pastor today has done more than the apostles. Paul traveled to several continents to preach the gospel and not one time did he preach or collect tithes. Only free will support. Infact he was a tentmaker meaning that he worked to support himself and not depending on what members will give.

Do you know why jesus condemned the Pharisees? They put extra legal burdens on the people of God and convince people that you cannot please or inherit the kingdom of God until you do the extras.

Tithing started from the law...and I know you will quote Abram giving tenth to Melchizedek.
The tenth that Abram gave was customary after his victory in a war. It was taken from spoil of war and not a continuous monthly contribution like you have been taught. Abam and the patriachs never gave tenth from their own possession thereafter until the law of moses. Even the Israelites gave tithe only after harvest. It was not a regular periodic payment.

I know that tithe is a major source of revenue and that's why pastors will never preach the whole truth about it. But to mandate it and call it a requirement for Christians is an error no matter how popular and fashionable it sounds.
Christianity EtcRe: Nigeria Churches Are One Of The Reasons Why Many Nigerians Are Poor - Pastor Son by Iamzik: 9:18pm On Jun 11, 2025
1mansolder:
Don't talk what you don't know,is the church the one ruling the country.The Muslim have occupied the seat of power more in this country than the Christian.The cause of poverty in the country is bad leadership and it has nothing to do with religion.Go to some Muslim countries and see developments, same with Christian countries.Our leaders in Nigeria are the most greedy and wicked people on earth.The day the masses will know what our leaders are the problem is the day Nigeria and Africa will be free.
Church leaders are also part of the problem sir/ma. I will not exonerate them
Christianity EtcRe: Beware Of These Set Of Pastors by Iamzik: 7:58pm On Jun 10, 2025
Ken4Christ:
Yes, I do know money had always been there. But where did they get their money from. It was majorly from their farming and cattle rearing from which they give their tithes.

When the Bible was talking about the wealth of Job, it was according to the numbers of these animals he had.

What was in the mind of God when he told the Jews to give a tenth of their increase? It was for the Levites welfare.

God is concerned about those who serve in his vineyard. There are many workers also who work full time in the vineyard of God today. Do you think God cares less about them. So, if there are no farmers, they should starve to death working for God. I know you will say God can sustain his workers. Why didn't he tell the Levites to expect manner from heaven?

So, it's common sense if you love God to commit at least 10% to support the workers in the house of God.

But when the church has reached an overflowing measure in the amount of tithes they receive, they should give back to help the widow, orphans, fatherless and the poor in their midst. This is just my area of concern.

If you don't want to tithe because it wasn't emphasized by Jesus, then practice what Jesus instructed - Sell all that you have and give to the poor- Luke 12:33. This is giving away your 100%. Please start doing that if you truly want to walk in the light of the teachings of our Lord Jesus.
Excellent submission!

The bible is not complicated and most of its instructions are written in plain languages.

Our error often begin when we try to read extra meaning into what is written.

Tithe was never money and I don't need to read the mind or God to know that. Tithe to the Israelites was meant for the Levites (who had no land, no possessions, no other job or businesses), the widows, orphans and family members.

Again Jesus never instructed any of his disciples or followers to sell all they have like you tried to emphasize. Again it's not a commandment.

Why should the church reach an overflowing measure from collected tithe before they give to the poor and vulnerable when that very tithe wee meant for the poor and vulnerable to begin with?

I was hungry and ye feed me, naked and ye cloth me..... Many Christians have shut their bowels of mercy because they believe that giving 10% to a church religiously is more important than taking care of the needy in the house of God.

I make bold to say that God will accept 500 you give to the poor Christian who is genuinely in need than the millions you give as tithe in church that will never get to that poor man.

Again I like to keep it simple. The weightier matter is mercy and justice. God's commands are not as complicated as pastors have made it become.
There is no legalistic requirement to tithe in the new testament. Selah!
Foreign AffairsRe: Hamas Gaza Chief Sinwar's Body Identified by Iamzik: 10:05pm On Jun 09, 2025
Omotaday:
Look in the mirror, you are defending a war criminal wanted by ICC, you are the terrorist sympathiser.

Let Israel allow independent journalists to enter Gaza, if they don’t have things to hide.
Where is ICC when the Palestinians you are defending slaughtered over a thousand civilians attending a party?

To hell with ICC!
RomanceRe: Ladies (Aged 30-38 Years) How To Get Married In 2025/2026 by Iamzik: 9:03pm On Jun 09, 2025
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RomanceRe: Ladies (Aged 30-38 Years) How To Get Married In 2025/2026 by Iamzik: 8:10pm On Jun 09, 2025
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Christianity EtcRe: Beware Of These Set Of Pastors by Iamzik: 8:02pm On Jun 09, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
YES! Jesus commanded people to give 100% to the church and who is the church?
PASTOR! cheesy
Lol grin grin cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: Beware Of These Set Of Pastors by Iamzik: 7:58pm On Jun 09, 2025
Ken4Christ:
Why did God asked the Jews to pay tithes to the Levites? Because they work full-time in the house of God. Don't you know that there are also full-time workers today in the house of God making the church to run smoothly and achieve better results? Most of them are professionals. They are even more busy than most company workers. Some of them work till very late in the night and they deserve to be paid good salaries.
I agree with you that church workers must be paid. And they must be well paid in my opinion.

What I'm saying is that the church needs to come clean and stop claiming that tithing is a commandments that Christians must obey.
Giving should be done willingly and there are no percentage requirements anywhere in Gods word.

If God called you to ministry you must believe that he is able to provide what us needed without resorting to your own human devices.

If Paul through all his ministry got support from Christians throughout the old world without ever threatening believers with curses for not giving tithe, then where is the faith of our ministers today?
Christianity EtcRe: Beware Of These Set Of Pastors by Iamzik: 7:48pm On Jun 09, 2025
Ken4Christ:
They didn't need to pay tithes from their monies because they already paid it after the harvest of their crops. They only converted the remaining to money.

Crops and animals was the real value of wealth those days.
No sir. Money has been in existence since the days of Abraham. Money first occured in Gen 17:13 you can look it up where it talks about circumcising slaves bought with money.

Money was called shekels of gold, silver bronze etc. so Money was in existence when God commanded tithe to be paid in foodstuff.

Please study the bible for yourself and don't allow money loving pastors lie to you.

I actually took some time to study this for myself time and I know the truth now. I wish all Christians will have time to just study the bible personally.

You will discover that the for most biblical themes, the biblical truth is not what the vast majority of Christians were taught to practice by their pastors
Christianity EtcRe: Beware Of These Set Of Pastors by Iamzik: 7:57am On Jun 09, 2025
Ken4Christ:
Because not everyone has the faith to meet up with the demands of our Lord Jesus. The early church did it on two recorded occasions. So, we should at least start from the least requirement and step up over time. God loves a generous and cheerful givers. But I must say here that the administration of money received through tithe is faulty. The G Os spends most of it on himself while staffs working with them are poorly paid.

Besides, most of these churches don't reach out to the poor, fatherless, orphans and widows. This is what I mean by the administration of tithe received.
The problem is not administration
The problem is there is no basis for collection of tithes at all.

Read about how the children of Eli dip the fork into the offering couldron to pick the best meat even before the sacrifice is made...that is the same thing that is being practiced today. You tithe doesn't stay in your local church where it will benefit the poor members. Instead it goes to the GO...think about that!

Only Levites are allowed to collect tithes...your pastors are not Levites
Tithe is food/crop not money
Tithe is not a commandment for new testament believers. All the apostles preached is to give willingly/cheerfully and not out of compulsion.

There are at least three types of tithe but all you hear about is just one. Why?
There is a tihe you give to the widows and fatherless and orphans. There is another you eat with your family before God. Why don't they preach about those ones?

I know that this is not a popular take but the truth is often not popular.

Take tithe and offering out of churches and you Will quickly see that more than 95% or so called pastors are just in it for the money
Christianity EtcRe: Beware Of These Set Of Pastors by Iamzik: 7:46am On Jun 09, 2025
Ken4Christ:
Jesus collects 100%. He said we should sell all that we have and give alms. So, the one who gives such instruction could not be condemning tithe.

What we should focus on is the administration and not the collection.
This is laughable! So jesus commanded you to give 100% to the church? Where?

This brainwashing is strong
Christianity EtcRe: Beware Of These Set Of Pastors by Iamzik: 7:43am On Jun 09, 2025
Ken4Christ:
Our Lord Jesus knew the Jews were already practicing tithing meticulously and he encouraged them to continue. He only focused on what they weren’t doing - judgment, mercy and faith. Hence, he said:

Matthew 23:23
23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for YE PAY TITHE OF MINT AND ANISE AND CUMMINS, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: THESE OUGHT YE TO HAVE DONE, and not to leave the other undone

He acknowledged that they pay tithes and he didn't ask them to stop. He even said that they ought to pay it but not neglect other more important things.

The mercy here stands for helping the poor. And he asked them to sell their possessions to help the poor. This commitment is far more than tithing. It's like giving 100% of what you have.

So, how did Jesus not teach about tithing? His teachings on giving places far greater demand on us.
Tithe in the bible was never money. Even in the text you quoted above, tithe Anis and Cumin are herbs/vegetables. Tithe is food/crop. Even Malachi 8 that is often misquoted refered tithe as food ....that there may be "meat in my house..."

How did new generation pastors turn to money and made it mandatory law?

Tithing is not a new testament commandment. Please show us where any of the apostles preached or collected tithes after Jesus rose from the dead
Nairaland GeneralRe: What Does Nairaland Need Right Now? by Iamzik: 8:04am On Apr 15, 2025
divinetouch24:
Oga Seun , that Creed you activated for Muslims in Fridays, activate it for Christians on Sunday too.

Don't be Biased.... Let There Be Equity....
He will never listen to you.
He actually banned me for confronting him about this repeatedly.

Your platform cannot grow as long as you keep suppressing one religion for the other.

Slap "Jesus is the only saviour" on any profile that comment on Christian thread.

You did this for the muslims long ago. Is this too much to ask? @seun
Foreign AffairsRe: Houthis Shoot Down 4th U.S MQ-9 Reaper Drone In 14 Days (Photos) by Iamzik: 7:57am On Apr 15, 2025
Galay:
So you want us to believe the houstis without a video of the crash
grin grin grin
BusinessRe: The Naira/dollar Watch Thread by Iamzik: 7:17am On Apr 15, 2025
MummyIMadeIt:
Mon 14 Apr, 2025

1 USD ⇛ ₦1,620.045
1 GBP ⇛ ₦2,129.088
1 EUR ⇛ ₦1,847.882
1 CAD ⇛ ₦1,158.330
1 GHS ⇛ ₦103.62
1 ZAR ⇛ ₦84.92
1 CFA ⇛ ₦2.79
Thanks for posting this.

Please is this rate for buy or sell and is this official rate or black market. Would appreciate your feedback.

Thanks
TravelRe: Air Peace Elevates Chibuzo Mbanefo To Boeing 777 Captain by Iamzik: 7:47pm On Feb 12, 2025
Revealpanda:
Igbo Amaka.

No one will believe what this tribe have been able to achieve with £20 given to them

They laugh and say Igbos have no billionaire in dollars
I tell them others were given a headstart of 40+ years and Ndigbo were forced to start everything from scratch.


When they start reaching the billionaire status... It won't be just one igboman but a sea of them since many are already in the hundreds of millions in $ rich.


And yes! I or a member of my family will be amongst that list
This £20 myth sha! Smh
PoliticsRe: NEMA Hosts Emergency Response Meeting For New COVID-19 by Iamzik: 6:59am On Jan 11, 2025
Confirmedzombie:
We must not take chances at all. I call on president Tinubu to as a matter of urgency impise a 3 weeks Total Lockdown now.

All offices, banks. Schools, markets must be shutdown for 3 weeks.

All roads, Airlines should be shutdown.

The earlier we start the better for us. Afterall we Nigerians are used to hardship.
We are not locking anything. Feel free to stay at home
Foreign AffairsRe: All Five Living US Presidents Unite At Funeral Of Jimmy Carter (photos) by Iamzik: 6:52am On Jan 10, 2025
God1000:
I agree with you wholeheartedly, I've listened to so many of his speeches, you can listen to him for hours without knowing it, his humility, decency and good character is serious lacking today


As first black president, he really did well
You are are decieved by his empty eloquence. Obama did nothing for blacks. He brought LGBT to mainstream, threatened African Presidents to accept it, fought senseless wars in middle East and shipped piles of cash to Iran to fund their nuclear program. The guy was a disaster and American patriots know it....no wonder even blacks rejected him and his puppet Kamala in the last election.

Obama is a prop and y'all are buying his empty eloquence
RomanceRe: Woman In DINK Relationship Divides Opinion After Explaining The Benefits by Iamzik: 8:10am On Nov 23, 2024
ehikwe22:
I'm childfree and an antinatalist as well. The benefits are tremendous
Lol old age go tell you
Foreign AffairsRe: Orban Says He Will Invite Netanyahu To Hungary After ICC Move. by Iamzik: 7:52am On Nov 23, 2024
Babalola0920:
Na lie when such was issue for almighty put putin nairaland was just following up with trend now because him dey think say because Israel na GOD own state him dey trying find narrative even Canada talk say him go arrest am..

Dem no born am well make him waka anyhow !
And why will Netanyahu need to visit Canada? Trudeau is the most unpopular politician in Canada tight now with his stupid leftist policies

Let the whole world gather against Israel they will all fail. That's how strong Israel is. ICC wey no well
Foreign AffairsRe: Orban Says He Will Invite Netanyahu To Hungary After ICC Move. by Iamzik: 7:51am On Nov 23, 2024
Babalola0920:
Na lie when such was issue for almighty put putin nairaland was just following up with trend now because him dey think say because Israel na GOD own state him dey trying find narrative even Canada talk say him go arrest am..

Dem no born am well make him waka anyhow !
And why will Netanyahu need to visit Canada? Trudeau is the most unpopular politician in Canada tight now with his stupid leftist policies

Let the whole world gather against Israel they will all fail. That's how strong Israel is. ICC my foot
Foreign AffairsRe: UK Government Indicates Netanyahu Faces Arrest If He Enters UK by Iamzik: 7:06am On Nov 23, 2024
Bossly:
No hiding place for the Crime Minister, he must pay for his crimes against humanity. 🎯
If you actually believe that any of these countries can arrest Natanyahu then you know nothing about international politics
Foreign AffairsRe: UK Government Indicates Netanyahu Faces Arrest If He Enters UK by Iamzik: 7:03am On Nov 23, 2024
Yankee101:
God is not a wicked God
Instead of going after Hamas you’re eliminating women and children and using starvation as a weapon. You’ll go down in history in infamy
You people are funny sha. You pretend like you don't know that hamas built their tunnels under schools hospitals and residential areas?

How do you fight a terrorist whose military base is in residential area? Fold your hand or send them flowers?

You better wake up to reality.
PoliticsRe: IMF: Property Taxes Can Help Nigeria, Others Develop by Iamzik: 9:02am On Nov 13, 2024
mrvitalis:
I have said it here for over 2 years , property tax is what is used to fund bulk of budget around the world

Every state can earn 300 billion minimum yearly from property tax

Lagos and Anambra can earn trillions


And this would always wake the people up and get them more involved in politics
Whoever is thinking about introducing property tax in Nigeria right now is Wicked. Do you know the average cost of rental property at the moment?

Does government want to make people homeless in addition to the unbearable economic downturn since Tinubu removed subsidy?

The huge revenue they are currently earning from subsidy removal what have they done with it?

Other countries collect these taxes and fund education, healthcare, subsidized fuel and build infrastructure.

If you collect property tax will government put all the above subsidies in place?

We like to copy developed countries when it comes to taxation while at the same time advocating for government to take away subsidies that citizens should benefit from.

After paying all of these taxes and enduring inflation and extremely high cost of living what is the benefit of ordinary citizens?
Foreign AffairsRe: Botswana's First Lady, Kaone Boko, Kneels Down For Husband At Inauguration by Iamzik: 12:58pm On Nov 10, 2024
RandDigital:
I don't support this sort of nonsense, unless he also does likewise for her in public.
It's their culture. Not kneeling down in their culture is the actual nonsense

Y'all be forming woke on the internet
Foreign AffairsRe: Woman Shaves Her Hair To Protest Trump’s Win In America Election(vid) by Iamzik: 12:48pm On Nov 10, 2024
Welcum:
Hmmmm!


Remember you said this. In case of when you'd start to complain against dictatorship. Look at this https://x.com/desmond54195/status/1854404420294848922?t=biPm7ASzi9jF2oy91uJ9UQ&s=19[/quote]Trump is far more competent than buhari and Tinubu that you people have been voting since 2015. Tinubu cannot achieve in 50 years what trump accomplished in just 4 years - tax cut, millions of new jobs, reduced inflation, secure border, no war, massive regulation cut to boost small business.

The thieves you elect in Nigeria are so selfish all they think about is to inflict more hardship on you while buying themselves luxury car and houses.


Imagine a Nigerian blaming US voters! Americans have sooken and their votes actually counts unlike Nigeria where yakubu will shutdown server and write paper result at 3am while the country is asleep
CelebritiesRe: No Nigerian Can Afford Range Rover From Acting – Bimbo Manuel by Iamzik: 9:11pm On Nov 09, 2024
DiamondsAreFore:
I'm not sure this dude knows what he's saying.

Funke Akindele's movies have made almost 3 billion naira at the Nigerian Box Office. After paying taxes to the government and royalties to actors who star in her movies, I'm sure she will have at least 2.5 billion naira as her own personal profit.

https://www.hostpic.org/images/2411082035420078.jpg

https://www.hostpic.org/images/2411082035420094.jpg

The top movie makers in Nigeria, like Funke Akindele, Kemi Adetiba, Kunle Afolayan etc who are putting out good content which is professionally made and which can be watched in a cinema or on a streaming platform like Netflix or Amazon are actually cashing out big time.
There's a world of difference between an actor and a producer. Funke akindele is both
Foreign AffairsRe: Trump Put Musk On Phone With Zelensky During Call by Iamzik: 10:35am On Nov 09, 2024
ReubenE:
Musk the immigrant that has forgotten where he is from. Willing to burn same bridge that gave him the opportunity of elevation
Musk immigrated legally
What's your point?
Car TalkRe: Bayo Onanuga Reacts To Reports Of Malaysia Phasing Out CNG Vehicles by Iamzik: 9:22am On Nov 09, 2024
EKONGKING:
Atleast 40 percent of Keke in India runs on CNG,that's almost 3 million vehicles . The government wants to encourage more Keke to go into CNG fuel.
I have never heard about any vehicles suffering from blast related to CNG fuel.

News about Malaysia CNG is manipulated by obedient
You don't have to take political stand on every issue. There is a risk in putting high pressure cylinder in your boot in a hot country like Nigeria. But if y'all don't see the risk you can go ahead.

Onanuga a Tinubu will never convert their utility vehicles to CNG. E get why
TravelRe: Air Peace Flight Fuel Shortage On Air, Pilot Turns Back To Refuel - Dr. Udenwa by Iamzik: 8:33am On Nov 09, 2024
casualobserver:
To start with a flight that is “halfway” and returns to its origin had enough fuel to continue to its destination.

They should get the story (or use of English) right.
It's a big risk though. What if the plane does not get clearance to land immediately. I've been in a plane that had to hover around for a while before landing. The airline and pilot should be sanctioned. Fuel is a basic check before a plane can take off
PoliticsRe: Lagos Government Bans Pure Water From January 2025 by Iamzik: 7:56pm On Oct 04, 2024
omoredia:
Didn't u vote for Apc? So stop ranting like an ape
Stop washing your dirty linen on the internet with accusations you cannot prove. Show me a comment I ever posted in support of APC.

I just laid out facts that you cannot respond to. No wonder your type resort to insult.

I don't swallow government stupid policies hook like and sinker like many of you have been programmed to do.

Respond to the practical issues I raised and let's have a civil conversation....thats if you are capable of having one
PoliticsRe: Lagos Government Bans Pure Water From January 2025 by Iamzik: 7:45pm On Oct 04, 2024
omoredia:
1. Before pure water we have been drinking water
2. The sachet is become a huge environmental and health danger for a state like Lagos.
3. We can still make do with water bottles which u fill up and take along.
4. Water from the tap will foster communial living that will make up bond with eachother better. A shared resource brings people together
I drank directly from tap as a kid but how many houses in Lagos have pipe borne water today?
The countries making this policies have drinkable water running in their taps 24/7

Before satchel water market women tied ice water and sold in everywhere but packaging lacked hygiene.

This idea of "banning" everything because the white man says so is actually dumb.
You can implement environment friendly solutions that are tailored to your own local environment.

Talk is cheap. May God spare our lives till Jan 2025 and beyond. Will be interesting to watch how you will ban ratchet water and also ban bottled water

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