Ken4Christ: Because not everyone has the faith to meet up with the demands of our Lord Jesus. The early church did it on two recorded occasions. So, we should at least start from the least requirement and step up over time. God loves a generous and cheerful givers. But I must say here that the administration of money received through tithe is faulty. The G Os spends most of it on himself while staffs working with them are poorly paid.
Besides, most of these churches don't reach out to the poor, fatherless, orphans and widows. This is what I mean by the administration of tithe received.
The problem is not administration The problem is there is no basis for collection of tithes at all.
Read about how the children of Eli dip the fork into the offering couldron to pick the best meat even before the sacrifice is made...that is the same thing that is being practiced today. You tithe doesn't stay in your local church where it will benefit the poor members. Instead it goes to the GO...think about that!
Only Levites are allowed to collect tithes...your pastors are not Levites Tithe is food/crop not money Tithe is not a commandment for new testament believers. All the apostles preached is to give willingly/cheerfully and not out of compulsion.
There are at least three types of tithe but all you hear about is just one. Why? There is a tihe you give to the widows and fatherless and orphans. There is another you eat with your family before God. Why don't they preach about those ones?
I know that this is not a popular take but the truth is often not popular.
Take tithe and offering out of churches and you Will quickly see that more than 95% or so called pastors are just in it for the money
Ken4Christ: Jesus collects 100%. He said we should sell all that we have and give alms. So, the one who gives such instruction could not be condemning tithe.
What we should focus on is the administration and not the collection.
This is laughable! So jesus commanded you to give 100% to the church? Where?
Ken4Christ: Our Lord Jesus knew the Jews were already practicing tithing meticulously and he encouraged them to continue. He only focused on what they weren’t doing - judgment, mercy and faith. Hence, he said:
Matthew 23:23 23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for YE PAY TITHE OF MINT AND ANISE AND CUMMINS, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: THESE OUGHT YE TO HAVE DONE, and not to leave the other undone
He acknowledged that they pay tithes and he didn't ask them to stop. He even said that they ought to pay it but not neglect other more important things.
The mercy here stands for helping the poor. And he asked them to sell their possessions to help the poor. This commitment is far more than tithing. It's like giving 100% of what you have.
So, how did Jesus not teach about tithing? His teachings on giving places far greater demand on us.
Tithe in the bible was never money. Even in the text you quoted above, tithe Anis and Cumin are herbs/vegetables. Tithe is food/crop. Even Malachi 8 that is often misquoted refered tithe as food ....that there may be "meat in my house..."
How did new generation pastors turn to money and made it mandatory law?
Tithing is not a new testament commandment. Please show us where any of the apostles preached or collected tithes after Jesus rose from the dead
No one will believe what this tribe have been able to achieve with £20 given to them
They laugh and say Igbos have no billionaire in dollars I tell them others were given a headstart of 40+ years and Ndigbo were forced to start everything from scratch.
When they start reaching the billionaire status... It won't be just one igboman but a sea of them since many are already in the hundreds of millions in $ rich.
And yes! I or a member of my family will be amongst that list
God1000: I agree with you wholeheartedly, I've listened to so many of his speeches, you can listen to him for hours without knowing it, his humility, decency and good character is serious lacking today
As first black president, he really did well
You are are decieved by his empty eloquence. Obama did nothing for blacks. He brought LGBT to mainstream, threatened African Presidents to accept it, fought senseless wars in middle East and shipped piles of cash to Iran to fund their nuclear program. The guy was a disaster and American patriots know it....no wonder even blacks rejected him and his puppet Kamala in the last election.
Obama is a prop and y'all are buying his empty eloquence
Babalola0920: Na lie when such was issue for almighty put putin nairaland was just following up with trend now because him dey think say because Israel na GOD own state him dey trying find narrative even Canada talk say him go arrest am..
Dem no born am well make him waka anyhow !
And why will Netanyahu need to visit Canada? Trudeau is the most unpopular politician in Canada tight now with his stupid leftist policies
Let the whole world gather against Israel they will all fail. That's how strong Israel is. ICC wey no well
Babalola0920: Na lie when such was issue for almighty put putin nairaland was just following up with trend now because him dey think say because Israel na GOD own state him dey trying find narrative even Canada talk say him go arrest am..
Dem no born am well make him waka anyhow !
And why will Netanyahu need to visit Canada? Trudeau is the most unpopular politician in Canada tight now with his stupid leftist policies
Let the whole world gather against Israel they will all fail. That's how strong Israel is. ICC my foot
Yankee101: God is not a wicked God Instead of going after Hamas you’re eliminating women and children and using starvation as a weapon. You’ll go down in history in infamy
You people are funny sha. You pretend like you don't know that hamas built their tunnels under schools hospitals and residential areas?
How do you fight a terrorist whose military base is in residential area? Fold your hand or send them flowers?
mrvitalis: I have said it here for over 2 years , property tax is what is used to fund bulk of budget around the world
Every state can earn 300 billion minimum yearly from property tax
Lagos and Anambra can earn trillions
And this would always wake the people up and get them more involved in politics
Whoever is thinking about introducing property tax in Nigeria right now is Wicked. Do you know the average cost of rental property at the moment?
Does government want to make people homeless in addition to the unbearable economic downturn since Tinubu removed subsidy?
The huge revenue they are currently earning from subsidy removal what have they done with it?
Other countries collect these taxes and fund education, healthcare, subsidized fuel and build infrastructure.
If you collect property tax will government put all the above subsidies in place?
We like to copy developed countries when it comes to taxation while at the same time advocating for government to take away subsidies that citizens should benefit from.
After paying all of these taxes and enduring inflation and extremely high cost of living what is the benefit of ordinary citizens?
Remember you said this. In case of when you'd start to complain against dictatorship. Look at this https://x.com/desmond54195/status/1854404420294848922?t=biPm7ASzi9jF2oy91uJ9UQ&s=19[/quote]Trump is far more competent than buhari and Tinubu that you people have been voting since 2015. Tinubu cannot achieve in 50 years what trump accomplished in just 4 years - tax cut, millions of new jobs, reduced inflation, secure border, no war, massive regulation cut to boost small business.
The thieves you elect in Nigeria are so selfish all they think about is to inflict more hardship on you while buying themselves luxury car and houses.
Imagine a Nigerian blaming US voters! Americans have sooken and their votes actually counts unlike Nigeria where yakubu will shutdown server and write paper result at 3am while the country is asleep
DiamondsAreFore: I'm not sure this dude knows what he's saying.
Funke Akindele's movies have made almost 3 billion naira at the Nigerian Box Office. After paying taxes to the government and royalties to actors who star in her movies, I'm sure she will have at least 2.5 billion naira as her own personal profit.
The top movie makers in Nigeria, like Funke Akindele, Kemi Adetiba, Kunle Afolayan etc who are putting out good content which is professionally made and which can be watched in a cinema or on a streaming platform like Netflix or Amazon are actually cashing out big time.
There's a world of difference between an actor and a producer. Funke akindele is both
EKONGKING: Atleast 40 percent of Keke in India runs on CNG,that's almost 3 million vehicles . The government wants to encourage more Keke to go into CNG fuel. I have never heard about any vehicles suffering from blast related to CNG fuel.
News about Malaysia CNG is manipulated by obedient
You don't have to take political stand on every issue. There is a risk in putting high pressure cylinder in your boot in a hot country like Nigeria. But if y'all don't see the risk you can go ahead.
Onanuga a Tinubu will never convert their utility vehicles to CNG. E get why
casualobserver: To start with a flight that is “halfway” and returns to its origin had enough fuel to continue to its destination.
They should get the story (or use of English) right.
It's a big risk though. What if the plane does not get clearance to land immediately. I've been in a plane that had to hover around for a while before landing. The airline and pilot should be sanctioned. Fuel is a basic check before a plane can take off
omoredia: 1. Before pure water we have been drinking water 2. The sachet is become a huge environmental and health danger for a state like Lagos. 3. We can still make do with water bottles which u fill up and take along. 4. Water from the tap will foster communial living that will make up bond with eachother better. A shared resource brings people together
I drank directly from tap as a kid but how many houses in Lagos have pipe borne water today? The countries making this policies have drinkable water running in their taps 24/7
Before satchel water market women tied ice water and sold in everywhere but packaging lacked hygiene.
This idea of "banning" everything because the white man says so is actually dumb. You can implement environment friendly solutions that are tailored to your own local environment.
Talk is cheap. May God spare our lives till Jan 2025 and beyond. Will be interesting to watch how you will ban ratchet water and also ban bottled water
FreeStuffsNG: It is actually brilliant and it's effect is positive on the environment and their livelihoods. Single Use Plastics are more expensive and the social cost is becoming unbearable to the rest of us not in the sectors profiting from the use of SUPs. The sachet water has since outlived its usefulness and has turned to complete nuisance apart from making water more expensive. These old archaic environmental practices need to give way and I am profoundly proud that my Lagos State is taking the lead.
The waste has started reducing since the ban on Styrofoam and once we sort out the SUP of bottled water and waste sachet from pure water, we would have solved a huge environmental and economic problem.
The bottled water can come in cheap reusable plastics while sachet water will suddenly become more expensive so the stakeholders now earn more margins as more people move to reusable bottled water and later biodegradable containers.
Jan 2025 is long enough advance notice and I urge the stakeholders to cooperate with the Lagos State Government.
This is the best time to invest in Lagos. Invest in Lagos for great returns on your investment and best investor-friendly experience in Nigeria and Africa.
May God bless Nigeria for ever! Check my signature for free stuffs!
It is those who are alive that can enjoy the "environment" you so much want to protect.
This is a wish that will not come true. Mark my words
bepositive11: Go through history and see where it started.
Israel and Palestine need to negotiate. Retaliating won't solve anything for either side. More lives would be lost. It would never end if it continues like this.
As I pointed out in my previous comment, Israel may think they're winning now, but they're breeding future Hamas terrorists in droves.
I asked a simple question sir/ma
How do you negotiate with someone whose life goal is to kill you?
Prettychild: Lol! See the way you have turned it around. If someone wants to pray for you (even though I don’t know what they are praying about), will you stand or kneel so that the person can touch you while praying? It’s with humility that brings about exaltation. If a man can humble himself to kneel for his wife to pray for him, God will still exalt him to continue to be the head of the house, not in words but also in actions. You people should keep your red pill behavior one side abeg
Kneeling for your wife is sign of weakness both culturally and spiritually. Kneeling before someone is symbol of accepting their lordship and authority. I don't know where Christians are getting all these wrong practices. A disregard from the natural order is the reason for so many divorce
k4kenny: You bloodthirsty people were to busy celebrating a massacre and destruction like the offsprings of the devil that you are that you didnt notice your slavemasters couldn't win physical combats in Gaza. To the extent to withdrawing the elite unit, Golani brigade from ground. The only thing they can do is push a button from a distance to kill, steal and destroy like your godfather, Satan.
the hostage situation is the only reason why Israel did not go all out for Hamas. Hezbola has no hostage to bargain with so Israel hand is not tied in any way for now. That's my reading of the situation
MadPolitician: I'm also in support of the right of the Isrealis to live in their homeland and have a country of their own. And i am against the Arabs insistence that the Isrealis must leave. But lets be frank to ourselves;there is nothing really "satanic" about how these Lebanese defend themselves. That is if you juxtapose their actions with the Isreali approach. Isreal has never respected any of their boundaries since the wars of the 60s,the 70s and the 80s.
The Beirut invasion of the 80s was actually led by a Commando attack commanded by one Benjamin Netanyahu! Does that name ring a bell? It is the same Bibi, who is now the Prime Minister of Isreal.
His elder bother Jonathan Netanyahu, commandeered the Isreali commando group that captured the Entebbe airport in Uganda and rescued most Isreali hostages, captured in a hyjacked plane by some German terrorists, working for some Arabs. Uganda was under Idi Amin Dada at this time. Col Jonathan died in that raid.
So you can see how wars, killings, invasions, assassinations, bombings and spectacular violent displays, have come to charactrise relations in these areas. Essentially, in most cases, it is a question of "if you don't kill me when you have the chance, i will kill you anytime i have the chance ".
No one is really innocent here. That's if we look at it objectively. The more reason for a comprehensive peace treaty.
Any peace treaty short of Hamas releasing those they kidnapped and a committment never to attack isreal again will not solve the problem. Egypt made a peace deal with Israel and has not attached Israel since after the 6 day war. Hezbola and Hamas should do that same
Israel seem very determined to prevent another Oct 7 style attack on its citizen again.
bepositive11: First of all, stop generalizing. Some Muslims are terrorists, not all.
Why should they stop firing rockets when Israel won't stop firing rockets? Why won't Israel work with them to reach a ceasefire?
My points still hold true. I bet you. Yes, Israel has killed Hezbollah's leader today, but at the same time, they have created a new generation of people who will want to retaliate in the future. All those people who love Hezbollah's leader will become the terrorists targeting Israel tomorrow. The same can be said for the children of those Palestinians killed by Israel.
So when does it end? Israel should get off its high horse and sit down at the negotiation table. Killing their enemies would create generational hate and breed even more terrorists. It won't solve anything.
How do you negotiate with someone whose stated life mission is to kill you and wipe out your country?
stagger: When they start getting struck with incurable illnesses for their blasphemy against God, they will start crying for help.
That was how Mr Ibu went on that tirade against pastors as follows:
STUPIDITY is when you don’t have a bicycle and you give your last penny to your pastor to buy a jet. MUMU is when you can’t pay your children’s school fees and yet have money to contribute to your church to build expensive schools which your children will never attend.. IDIOCY is when you refuse to take your very sick child to the hospital because your pastor said you should not do so, yet that same pastor secretly runs to USA for medical attention any time he has a headache. KOLO is when you see a poor beggar on the road and you refuse to give him 50 naira out of the 5000 naira in your pocket because it is your tithe money.... YOU are a zombie when you trek,dance and gallivant for 30 kilometers under the hot sunsweating and smelling like poo during your revival program, while your pastor is inside a full option, factory fitted air-conditioned state of the art SUV with his delectable wife slow driving along the road. IGNORANCE is when you believe it when your pastor tells you not to live a worldly life, yet he enjoys all the best things in the world;the fine houses, cars, jets, babes etc, while you are waiting till you get to heaven to enjoy your own....
When he came down with illness, he started running from church to church, looking for the same pastors he was lambasting to pray for healing. To which God was he praying, after saying tithe money should be given to beggars?
God can NEVER be mocked. What you sow is what you reap.
So you mean he fell sick because he ask you to use your common sense?
I'm not sure that Nigeria can ever be free with people who think like you
Christianity Etc › Re: Beware Of These Set Of Pastors by Iamzik: 7:57am On Jun 09, 2025
