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@toy boy - na wa 4 u o, wut are u now PLAYA hating or is that you ave developed a conscience? I'm seriously not getting where u r coming from. It's no secret fine guys get the best pick so what are u selling?

lmao

Donzman:
@ayanfe
Your list does not make sense. How can Nigeria rank 3rd and Igbos are nowhere to be found on the list?. . .Didn't you see the evidence presented that Igbos commit from credit card fraud than Nigerians?. . .Fake stats, Igbos have to be on the list for credibility

ROFLMAO - you pple just don't want to let this thing go!

@Christino - definitely with you, but others on here are just too passionate about this subject that they fail to see the failings behind these so called yahoo boys and why the media are quick to point a finger at Nigeria - but not without cause!

146 pages later n still only a handful of pics - shi'o

god no!!!!!

egoldman:
so when was the last time that ophra and team investigated and produced an episode of her show concerning the chinese credit card crime ? or do you think ophra and her team don't have much info about the chinese cloning of credit card than you do ? my brother , i am not saying 419 is good ,its bad ,but i would like you to ask if nigeria is the only corrupt nation that ophra knows since she started her show .

Am i saying that she or her investigators don't know about these crimes? NO! All i'm saying is YES a lot of Countries are involved in one way or another in some sort of fraudulent dealings including Americans and British - even their govmts themselves - What i am saying is that Nigerians make themselves an easy target. They are too exposed, loud-mouthed, flashy, ill trained and cannot cover their tracks properly (paper trails, phone recordings, faxes - remeber they work with documents that are hardly shreded/destroyed - just thrown away). The individuals in this expose where arrested at the desk of the computers they were using in internet cafes. The Chinese on the other practise within a very close and dangerous community, Oprah's investigators would think 7 times b4 they even embark on such an investigation as they would mostly be caught and murdered and their bodies would never be found with very little evidence to prosecute. Have you been to any China towns at all? Do you see the settings, any outsiders can be identified from miles away and they would be cautious, but Nigerians would see them as marks and play into their hands which is what happened here. You should try watch one of these investigations one day and see the extent they go to in collecting their proofs (tailing, tapping phones, internet connections, pictures, lo-jacks, finger-prints etc) and it will suprise you as to what capabilities n resource they have at their disposal.

@Christino - my guy i hear and agree with you.

fstranger:
spaceword, how can you be so stupid to believe a subjective result as fact.
Just think a little bit before posting nonsense.

haha tak am easy nw o! nah innocent post he no de force am down yo throat!

@egoldman i have to agree with naijaking1 on this point - these are crimes as a result of ID theft - due to spam and phishing techniques. The one relating to Oprahs is sraight up FRAUD, the victims have been engaged in communications (phone, fax, emails etc) and convinced that they are investing their large sums into something that will pay-off in whatever time period.

With the internet fraud this is obtaining their personal n bank details and transfering money, cloning on credit cards, obtaining loans/morgages - yes Nigerian do this too but they are not alone. The chinese in fact have mastered cloning of credit cards and print fake notes - but they don't stick their heads out, they have their resturants at the same time and will never advertise such acts in public or even their own communities, which Nigerians do. They don't have jobs, on benefit, but yet drive the best cars, own nice houses, throw lavish parties, spray money any-how meet in bars and discuss business, yap on mobile and landlines about deals and easily get caught.

naijaking1:
Good to focus on Oprah again. If you think she hates naija, wait till you hear Gen. Colin Powell, former secretary of state. He and many other akata really hate naija with all their heart. For Oprah, I know the best way for us to fight her back: embark on a well organized bycott of everything 'Oprah' The Jews and the NAACP do it all the time.

Which Nigerian individual would suggest leads it? The Jews are able to do this because they have high level economic, positions and connections within the American and British government - us Nigerians don't.

studdys:

Pls elaborate.

So is DENIECE the final answer then?

@wavemasta - i understand where u're coming from, for us based overseas it is purely a Nigerian tarnish and we are all (irrespective of tribe) labelled the same, but as a people u ave to acknowledge that there had been n to some extent still the case differences b'tween all tribes. Generalising at this point doesn't solve anything if not increasing diversity. It's our govnmnt that needs to take a stronger stance n lead by example as well as provide n protect the people. The ones that have graduated in this way of life are constantly living the life and the yougins see them n dream of such luxury. With very limited means they see this as an easy option and hence more n more people joining in - which is why Nigeria is always on the radar internationally.

@walelead  - i second yo motion ealier from when this thread first started i mentioned that other nationality do it too, not necessarily on a greater scale (everyone doing it) but on a greater level (pay-off) but they are smart about it and can cover their tracks - Nigerians (yeye boys) are not this advance but yet constantly trying, celebrating, slipping, getting caught - hence the reason for the tarnish.
- Yea i heard about the Iran crossing and the British stance, but the greatest of all has to be the Irag war and the MODs!

What Oprah also neglected to empahsis on is the greed of the Americans in being duped in such a way in the first place.
But don't forget u also have the syndicates working within Nigeria and overseas and those are the big boys that do these as a profession and mostly definitely have their own set-ups, system, people and legally savvy.

walelead:
How can u prove that those mails are generated from Nigeria? An average American cannot differentiate between Africans and our accents.

i once had a lenghty arguement with some organisation called scam baiters (or something like that) and his research reveals that a high percentage of those mails are not from Nigeria but use our identities

Or do you know any Mobutu cese seko that is the King of OSHOBOGO (not Oshogbo) in Lagos?

Well i'm not sure of the conversation u had with this guy, but regarding this particular case the email trail and faxes were simply traced back to Nigeria.
All communications including internet and emails have origin IDs as well as servers, faxes include originating tel nos including Country codes.
The US have advanced systems that most of these yeye boys don't understand, computers and printers have unique finger-prints. The ones that are computer savvy and techie know how to re-route thier severs and block their IDs, the guys using these internet cafes don't have such luxury hence why it was so easy for them to be apprehended.

4 Play:
Are you jealous? Useless Nigerians

Soon it'll be useless Africans abi!

walelead:
@tex,
Have any of them bothered to find out why Advanced fee fraud is called 419 in Naija, isnt it because that is the number of the NIGERIAN legal code that forbids such crimes

I agree with you on this point - they even took the liberty to define what mumu means but not 419