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@Demdem
No shaking. I just hope those guyz realize the damage that they r causing and i also expect the security agencies to sit up and do their job. May God help us all.

goggs:
the Jews and Palestinians will fight their war and settle it one way or another. the Jews were in their land then forced out and now they have returned to find generations of Palestinians there. they will have to accommodate the Palestinians one way or another. they know it that is why the areas of disagreement has shrunk to basically the status of Jerusalem, security guarantees and a few others. unfortunately some extremist from both side are making these problematic areas difficult to resolve. from the orthodox Jews who will not give an inch of land to Palestinians (I wonder where they want them to go) to Islamic militants and hardliners like Hamas who are hardened in their irrational hatred for Jews. one way or another it will get solved.

back to Naija. I seriously think these protesters are within their rights. if they fully understand the issues at hand or if anybody outside that street they were on paid any serious attention, I doubt. a clue is the placard calling for "death to Israel " who will do the killing? the intolerance evidenced by the words on the placards only shows how detached the protesters are from reality. infact protesters who call for the death or destruction of a nation or people can't claim the right to protest.

if only the protesters knew they have bigger problems back home. Palestinians are better off than they are. infact Israel has Palestinian citizens (Palestinian Israelis or Arab Israeli) who enjoy higher standard of living than other Arabs in the region. even other Arab countries don't like the Palestinians. (Jordan and syria refused Palestinians asylum. there are hundreds of thousands in camps in those countries) . so can the nano women cry more than the bereaved?

let them protest against boko haram, polio, lack of education, health care, corruption etc

Tell them.

Blackteeth:
I think a statement by an islamic equivalent of the pope would be more likely to penetrate the ear canals of these men of destruction.

right on target.

[quote author=Xavier. link=topic=797093.msg9495418#msg9495418 date=1320619097]It pains me when muslims come to say, this is a political issue and not a religious crisis.
It is the height of insensitivity. How come no mosque has been burnt or bomb since the so called political crisis stated? How come the attacks are nt aimed at political offices? No local gvt secretariat has been bombed, no house of assembly complex has been destroyed, yet we say it is political.
The Sultan and other religious leaders up north are probably having a good laugh in their closet, at the expense of hundreds of innocent souls. If this had happened in the South, political leaders, pastors and imam would ve actively done something to address the ugly trend.[/quote]These are the same questions i asked. However i believe it is both political and religious. I want gej to take drastic steps on this issue (i hope he will not be accused of religious cleansing). May God help us all.

Demdem:
Actually u are the one that decides to talk before thinking. Only if u take time to go through my previous post on this thread u would have noticed that the first thing I made mentioned of was the lives of the innocent lost. It's simply unfortunate.
You can now see that all your accusation against me in your post is simply dust that needs to be ignored.
Innocent lives that could have been prevented were lost and that's a fact. Efforts should be made to prevent an occurrence and that's where I prefer to channel my efforts to.

I did not accuse u of anything. In my initially post, i only questioned the rationale behind such senseless killings and why the leaders have not spoken out against it. You were the one who first mentioned my name in one of your post (maybe because you expected me to attack gej and i did not).

Yes gej is the president and chief security officer of the nation; and he should deal with the situation. However i am forced to ask; why! why!! why!!! Why is BKH killing innocent nigerians? Even if yorubas wanted a separate nation, opc will not go about killing peeps. Even if igbos wanted a separate nation massob will not go around killing peeps. Even if niger-deltans want a separate nation mend will not go about burning churches and killing peeps.

Again BKH have said that they r fighting for an islamic state. By adopting a religious stand, it has further complicated the situation. Because if gej "deals" with them, he may will be accused (i hope you will not be one of them  ) of religious cleansing.

 I believe gej should act fast and be more courageous. However, if the muslim leaders speak out against BKH and insist that their activities are anti-islam; the easier gej's task will be (knowing that religion is a delicate matter). I hope you get my point.

Demdem:
Actually u are the daft one here and your points are basically screwed. So in your miserable wise state u feel there are no political undertones as regards the attrocities comitted so far by BH? Unfortunately, am typing this from my phone, would have revealed more of your folly and stupidity to the world.
The bottom line is the retardeen shld simply step aside if he feels the BY task is too much for him to handle. Enough lives have been lost already because of his inaction.

Why do u continue to act as if your brain is running on batteries? your  stupidity and heartlessness towards the lives of those that have died is mind-boggling.
You can keep attacking gej(i am not personally interested in that). I do hope that gej steps up and deals with them . But the fact still remains that BKH has both religious and political undertone. The religious and political leaders from the core-north support them(some openly, while others privately).
There is hardship everywhere; in the sw, ss, se and middle-belt. Why are the peeps there not killing each other? Life can sometimes be difficult. But that does not give u the right to kill anybody.
 BKH are demanding for a sharia state or don't you get it. . They are not interested in naija anymore. They prefer peeps from lran, somalia, lybia and gaza. The are fighting in the name of religion, why hasn't the sultan said anything yet?

Sweetnecta:
there is no reason for muslims to attack anyone.

there is reason for muslims to defend themselves when attacked.

the burning of churches, attacks on non muslims, etc, all of these are showing that the muslims who are doing these are ignorant and evil along with it.

this evil behavior is anti islam. The messenger [as] and his companions [ra] and the next 2 early generations [ra] never did these that i am now witnessing in the north and other parts of the world.

May Allah bring knowledge and mercy into the heart of the muslims; young and old. Amin.

I hope the sultan and other islamic leaders could read this post.

Demdem:
MY EXACT POSITION EARLIER ON THIS THREAD BEFORE THAT ENTITY CALLED ICEZ DECIDED TO RUBBISH IT. I HONESTLY DON'T HAVE HIS TIME TODAY.
I DON'T NEED THE PRESIDENT TO DIVIDE HIMSELF TO MILLION SPACES, I JUST WANT HIM TO DO WHAT HE WAS ELECTED TO DO AND WHAT HE SWORE AN OATH ON. IF HE CAN'T THEN THE HONOURABLE THING FOR THE RETARDEEN IS TO HONOURABLY RESIGN. THAT SHOULDN'T BE TOO MUCH FOR THE FISHERMAN TO DO

Are u daft or mentally unstable? . You can not see pass that daft political mind of yours. just stfu.

from beaf
The origin of the term, core-North is common knowledge, so it seems a bit strange when you argue about a name the Hausa-Fulani gave themselves. They got upset that Obj was giving top posts to Middle Belters and confronted him about marginalisation of the North; Obj simply pointed at the Middle Belters as Northerners in top positions. The Hausa-Fulani then introduced the term, "core-Northerner" as a distinction.

@beaf
you r right. They insisted that the middle-belters were not true northerns.

@Bornagain 190

I also asked the following questions;
Why has the sultan and other muslim religious leaders not said anything?
Are you saying that they r also afraid of BKH?
BKH says they r fighting for they peeps, yet they kill hundreds of innocent peeps and burn down churches?
When gej sent troops, the northern muslims leaders said no; that govrn. should leave them and BKH
They said BKH r their peeps and govrn. should not touch their peeps.
Instead of the sultan to condemn BKH, he was talking about palestinians, israel and america (wtf).
What do northern muslims[b] like north-africa and somalia more than naija?[/b]
BKH says they want sharia and nothing less. And that is what they have being fighting for.

onchefx:
gej is he afraid of the northern cartel? a northern president will not consult any body to unleash hell on any group trying to destroy his government.well, it is left for him watin me i know be say if e no act fast them go sweep him of his feed

Remember what happened, when he sent troops to maiduguri. Even senators from maiduguri said he should leave BKH  alone.

onchefx:
GEJ IS JUST PLAYING WITH THIS PEOPLE,LOOK HE WILL FIND OUT ONE DAY THAT THEY HAVE SCRAPED THE HAIR ON HIS Bottom.THIS PEOPLE ARE NOT JOKING OR PLAYING,WHAT IS HE EVEN WAITING FOR LET HIM SOMKE THEM OUT OF THEIR HOLE HE HAS ALL THAT IT TAKES TO DO THAT.MAY BE HE DONT THE COURAGE TO DO THAT

Then their leaders (sultan and emirs) will call it ethnic/religious war.

[quote author=Rhino.5dm link=topic=797602.msg9491632#msg9491632 date=1320569805]He is part of the problem in the country. Boko Haram is beyond the curse by any MOG that collect tithes from blood sucking politician. The only Pastor that is left with his credibility intact is, Pastor Tunde Bakare.
Let the conmen continue their competition of who will have the highest number of Jets, largest collection of Bullet proof jeeps, swiss watches, mansions, beautiful women and what not, display of fake miracles.[/quote]Are you for real?
That guy that justified the killing of NYSC members.
God will judge him.

dixono:
Zonkwa is like 3hrs drive from Kaduna town,

So they peeps there r not human?

netprenuer:
this is a big lie, am presently in kaduna, and it's currently safe

Is zonkwa not in kd?

Bornagain 190:
How do u except me to believe islam isnt a religion of violence? No northern muslim, sultan has ever come out to denounce dis barbaric act publicly, all they keep saying is dat it's politically motivated, bloody lie, then why bomb churches. Extreme situation require extreme measures, i propose we kill some aboki muslims down south and burn down mosques, then this barbarians might listen. Forget dialogue, it's too late!

I also asked the following questions;
Why has the sultan and other muslim religious leaders not said anything?
Are you saying that they r also afraid of BKH?
BKH says they r fighting for they peeps, yet they kill hundreds of innocent peeps and burn down churches?
When gej sent troops, the northern muslims leaders said no; that govrn. should leave them and BKH
They said BKH r their peeps and govrn. should not touch their peeps.
Instead of the sultan to condemn BKH, he was talking about palestinians, israel and america (wtf).
What do northern muslims[b] like north-africa and somalia more than naija?[/b]
BKH says they want sharia and nothing less. And that is what they have being fighting for or don't you get it?
Please do not deceive yourself.

honeric01:
ICEZ and your like, read with an open mind and tell me if this BH is not a Nigerian problem, you think they only attack Christians and that this is a religious war.




LAGOS, Nigeria (AP) — Residents fearfully left their homes Saturday to bury their dead in northeast Nigeria following a series of coordinated attacks that killed at least 69 people and left a new police headquarters in ruins, government offices burned and symbols of state power destroyed.

A radical Muslim sect known locally as Boko Haram claimed responsibility for the attacks in Borno and Yobe states, with the worst damage done in and around the city of Damaturu. The group also promised to continue its bloody sectarian fight against Nigeria's weak central government, with residents nervously moving through empty streets, waiting for the next attack.

"There's that fear that something might possibly happen again," Nigerian Red Cross official Ibrahim Bulama said.

In Damaturu, the capital of Yobe state, a car bomb exploded Friday afternoon outside a three-story building used as a military office and barracks, killing many uniformed security agents, Bulama said.

Gunmen then went through the town, blowing up a bank and attacking at least three police stations [b]and five churches, leaving them in rubble, officials said. Gunfire continued through the night and gunmen raided the village of Potiskum near the capital as well, witnesses said, leaving at least two people dead there[/b].

On Saturday morning, people began hesitantly leaving their homes, seeing the destruction left behind which included military and police vehicles burned by the gunmen with the burned corpses of the drivers who died still in their seats.

Bulama spoke to The Associated Press by telephone Saturday morning from a common Muslim burial ground in the city as his family buried a relative and friend, a police officer who died after suffering a gunshot wound to the head in the fighting.

Officials anticipated a dusk-till-dawn curfew to fall over the town, though state officials repeatedly declined to comment on the violence. The violence destroyed federal offices, public buildings and an immigration office, said Aliyu Baffale Sambo, an official with Nigeria's National Emergency Management Agency.

Nigerian Red Cross statistics showed at least 65 people died in and around Damaturu. Four other people were killed by four bombs in Maiduguri, about 80 miles (130 kilometers) east, officials said. One of those blasts detonated around noon outside an Islamic college, another alongside a road, local police commissioner Simeon Midenda said.

A short time later, suicide bombers driving a black SUV detonated their explosives outside the base for the military unit charged with protecting the city from Boko Haram fighters, military spokesman Lt. Col. Hassan Ifijeh Mohammed said. That blast injured several soldiers.

A Boko Haram spokesman claimed responsibility for the attacks in an interview Saturday with The Daily Trust, the newspaper of record across Nigeria's Muslim north. A Boko Haram spokesman using the nom de guerre Abul-Qaqa promised that "more attacks are on the way.""We will continue attacking federal government formations until security forces stop their excesses on our members and [b]vulnerable civilians," the spokesman said.[/b]

His comments come as human rights activists say soldiers have beaten and killed civilians while trying to search for the sect in Maiduguri.

Two suicide bombers detonated explosives inside vehicles in Maiduguri on Saturday night, but caused no casualties, police said.

Boko Haram wants to implement strict Shariah law across Nigeria, an oil-rich nation of more than 160 million which has a predominantly Christian south and a Muslim north. Its name means "Western education is sacrilege" in the local Hausa language, but instead of schooling, it rejects Western ideals like Nigeria's U.S.-styled democracy that followers believe have destroyed the country with corrupt politicians.

Boko Haram's attacks occurred ahead of Eid al-Adha, or the feast of sacrifice, when Muslims around the world slaughter sheep and cattle in remembrance of Abraham's near-sacrifice of his son. Police elsewhere in the country had warned of violence ahead of the celebration in Nigeria, a country largely split between a Christian south and a Muslim north. On Wednesday, police in Maiduguri had said they broke up a plot to bomb the city over the holiday.

President Goodluck Jonathan, a Christian who took office amid religious and political rioting that saw at least 800 die in April, canceled a trip to Bayelsa state for his younger brother's wedding Saturday, spokesman Reuben Abati said. He said the presidency did not consider those who launched the attacks "true Muslims," as the assault came during a holy period.

Abati also promised that "every step will be taken" to arrest those responsible — the same pledge made again and again as Jonathan has visited other sites bombed by Boko Haram.

"The security agencies will tell you that what happens on this scale is even a fraction of what could have happened considering the scope of the threat," Abati said. "The security agencies are busy at work trying to make sure the will of the majority of the Nigerian people is not subverted by a minority (group) with a suicidal streak."

However, the Nigerian government faces an increasingly dangerous threat from Boko Haram. The group apparently has split into three factions, the AP has learned. One faction remains moderate and welcomes an end to the violence, another wants a peace agreement with rewards similar to those offered to a different militant group in 2009.

The third faction, though, refuses to negotiate and remains the most radical. This faction [b]is in contact with al-Qaida's North Africa branch and likely the Somalia-based terror group al-Shabab, a diplomat said on condition of anonymity according to embassy orders.[/b]That sect likely is responsible for the increasingly violent and sophisticated attacks carried out in the sect's name. In August, Boko Haram claimed responsibility for a suicide car bombing at the United Nations headquarters in Nigeria's capital, which killed 24 people and left another 116 wounded.

An AP count shows the group has killed at least 329 people this year alone.

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Associated Press writer Njadvara Musa in Maiduguri, Nigeria contributed to this report.

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Jon Gambrell can be reached at www.twitter.com/jongambrellAP

Why has the sultan and other  muslim religious leaders not said anything? .
Are you saying that they r also afraid of BKH?
BKH says they r fighting for they peeps, yet they kill hundreds of innocent peeps and burn down churches?
When gej sent troops, the northern muslims leaders said no; that govrn. should leave them and BKH.
They said BKH r their peeps and govrn. should not touch their peeps.
Instead of the sultan to condemn BKH, he was talking about palestinians, israel and america (wtf).
What do northern muslims like north-africa and somalia more than naija?
BKH says they want sharia and nothing less. And that is what they have being fighting for or don't you get it?
Please do not deceive yourself.

mtaj:
If you had an open-mind, I'd expect you to understand some things, but it seems you are hell-bent on sticking to your bigoted views. You and Boko Haram are not different, just that you are doing what they are doing on a different platform. It's hatred and obstinately clinging on to wrong view that make them go around bombing those who disagree with them, including both Muslims and Christians. Interestingly, here you are propounding their awful ideology.

How can you use my difference of opinion (which is my right) to justify BKH? We r talking of the wicked and senseless killing of innocent nigerians. But u r a bigot that does not care and is only bent on propagating BKH and those who support them. . Why can't northern muslim leaders stand up and speak out. Instead they r "plotting" for 2015. . And why r so afraid of nigeria splitting up?

so afraid that the middle-belt wants to go.

mtaj:
Do you have a mind? Or are you willing to learn? The largest oil-producing countries in the world are in the Middle-East, most of whom are populated by Muslims. So oil in the world is worthless without Muslims. I know you hate it that way, but there is nothing you can do about that.

learn? from a boko-haram supporter. . No, i will allow this particular lecture pass.

mtaj:
You really should see a psychologist because you have a deluded sense of persecution. Moreover, you apper so confused that you can't differentiate between Islam and Hausa-Fulani or whatever ethnicity. And don't you know that there are Maguzawa who are ethnically Hausa, but religiously traditional or non-religious?

Why r u afraid that we do not want the core-north and want to go our separate ways?
Why r u afraid that they middle-belters want to leave you guyz?

mtaj:
Are you serious? You sound bitter and full of hatred. Why make the sweeping generalization that 'Muslims leaders' support the activities of BK Haram? Aren't Muslims the ones that suffer the most from the group's atrocities? That notwithstanding, what facts do you have to prove your claim? And only a strikingly ignorant simpleton will assume that Northern Nigeria is a desert!

Are you daft or mentally unstable? . Why are you afraid of leaving oil money and going back to your desert?

Why does they muslim core-north like blood so much? You guyz have ruled over the; berom, tiv, idoma, peeps of southern kd, jukun, igala and okun peeps for too long while still killing them and their children. They have now become wise and so they blood thirsty core-north have become afraid.
Why r u afraid that they middle-belters want to go?

Muslim leaders from the core-north support BKH. They r all hypocrites, they support bkh while still stealing oil money in abj. Since they love bkh they should resign and go back to their desert.

VoodooDoll:
OBJ did what to Moslems? And is that the reason why Blokos Haram exists?

Man, are you high?

People are dead and this is the tripe being written. Their bodies are just getting cold, with most of them still above ground and the Blokos Haram apologists show up!

That is what they always do. Daft peeps. When yaradua gave all the positions to muslims did peeps complain?

mtaj:
That's not true. OBJ deliberately snubbed Muslims in his appointments which some Northern Nigerian Muslims saw as a fight against Islam. I really can't hold brief for them on this one, but they have the right to voice out their concern within democratic limits. If a Northern Muslim president were to appoint disproportionate number of Muslims from the South in his cabinet, would groups that defend Christian interests not speak out on that?

To be frank, there weren't so unhappy that he gave 'middle-belters'- which place is that?- choice positions than his calculated effort on what they saw at short-changing Muslims. In fact, OBJ purposely pursued some policies that were inimical to the North's economy.

Which north? You kill the middle-belters and then you turn around to call them north.

mtaj:
Don't deliberately pick on any tribe to bash dude! There is no place called the core-North in Nigeria, and I suppose I don't need to teach you geography. The effort at willfully distorting facts to serve some ulterior motives is so great in Nigeria that one becomes dumbfounded that otherwise educated people are giddily taking on and uncritically peddling ignorance. The three regions that make up the North are enough for any one who wants to say or write something about the North. I truly think that there is more to this than just ignorance: hatred!

The core-north were not happy because obj gave middle-belt peeps positions. They are so greedy and wicked.

Demdem:
It's so unfortunate and painful that innocent lives are being lost daily as a result of BH attrocities. May their souls rest in peace.

However, will put my blame on the retardeen whose primary responsibility is the security of lives and properties of his citizens. It's obvious to me now that he simply doesn't Av a clue on how to solve this issue.

He earlier asked us to pray for them to repent, he further told us that he is on top of the situation after his infamous declaration (check my Sig for his dumb statement).
His no 1 supporter here on NL even lied again by declaring that all bh members have guns stucked to their heads.

I humbly call on The retardeen to kindly resign since he is dumb and useless especially about how to go about this menace.

To those who think my position is annoying and intend tackling this post of mine, just one word I have for u:
Hopefully and very soon, one of your loved ones will be among the statistics and we will see if u will still retain your present opinion about the retardeen.

I know gej is the president, but he can not divide himself into 150 000 000 places. Why should peeps just kill 63 innocent nigerians? Just like you said hopefully and very soon, one of your loved ones will be among the statistics and we will see if u will still retain your present opinion about gej being the course.

ibrahim007:
we bleeping all know that crude oil is one of the problems of the world,some unscrupulous element like the united states are trying to get alternative but all to no avail,as a matter of urgency they want to split naija by 2015 so they could deal with the niger deltan bastards directly to swindle their bleeping oil to their country.Believe USA is the most insecured country,them just dey acquire things to equal al those asia countries wey don sabi aw far.BASTARDOS.

Are you daft or mentally unstable?  

Beaf:
If the topic was different, I would understand your point about civility. But 63 people have just died for no reason, other than a few madmen want Nigeria to become a Muslim country based on Sharia.
Do you really think we can discuss such academically over a cool beer? 63 souls and counting, bruv.

Leave them, they r a bunch of murderers and hypocrites.

mtaj:
I just want you to assure me that you can stand the heat. Lowlife maggots are not equals for me, you dickhead!

May God punish you and your future generations. . Bloody terrorist

ArQuAbOy:
That picture is really annoying

See as innocent nigerians are being killed. And instead of the sultan to condemn the killings, he was saying that when palestinians died in gaza; america and lsrael are to blame. So people should leave BKH alone (can u imagine such trash).

mtaj:
It's great that you think this way, but Nigerian forums are full of people who want to hate, people who want to hurl insults at other people of different regions, ethnicities and religions. I truly feel your pains!

Guy shut your trap.