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PoliticsRe: 30 Physically Challenged Deltans Ejected In Ekiti by icez: 10:22pm On Oct 26, 2011
Beaf:
The bolded expresses what many might be thinking. There are many more Ekiti people in Delta state than there are Deltans in Ekiti, but we will never stoop to that level.
In my opinion, a poor state like Ekiti is really stirring up the hornets nest. I see other similarly poor states engaging in copy cat actions out of the very same debased bigotry that pushed the Ekiti governor to act the way he did. It is a very sad day indeed.
I said it, they guys in ekiti should not start what they cannot finish. This is not about delta state or being rich or poor. It is about discrimination. They should not put  other yoruba people in bad light. If other states begin to eject ekiti peeps back to their "poor state" what would they say?
PoliticsRe: Custom's CG Given 7 Days To Retrieve Auctioned $3B NIPP Equipment by icez: 10:02pm On Oct 26, 2011
9ja4eva:
Long overdue.The CG of Customs and his group bought the so called "Auctioned NIPP Equipment".
That guy is a thief.
PoliticsRe: Custom's CG Given 7 Days To Retrieve Auctioned $3B NIPP Equipment by icez: 9:57pm On Oct 26, 2011
Was it not yaradua and his cabal using the famous[b] rule of law and due process[/b], that suspended the nipp project; sacked the special adviser who told them the truth, used bankole(first class thief) to set up the so called " power probe"- where is the report? And there after sold all the GE Turbines that were at the port instead of clearing them. They called obj a thief, but what did they do?
PoliticsRe: 30 Physically Challenged Deltans Ejected In Ekiti by icez: 9:15pm On Oct 26, 2011
[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=789802.msg9424983#msg9424983 date=1319657545]Not just that 30, the other 3000 coming in the future.

My question is, why does a rich state like delta not have suitable environment for it's disabled citizens?[/quote]Are you being sarcastic?
PoliticsRe: 30 Physically Challenged Deltans Ejected In Ekiti by icez: 9:05pm On Oct 26, 2011
Chuck D:
i find it quite unbelieveable how you guys seem to understand this situation. if you insist that delta state should take back their own from ekiti and other allied states, will you not in thesame breath ask delta to send back your own? should we all now descend to the level of discriminating against the physically challenged? ok you claim to be poor is now your reason to justify discrimination?
They don't seem to understand, its not about delta state. It about ethnic discrimination. They say ekiti people are in other states because ekiti is poor. How will they fill if these states(lagos, ogun, ondo, edo, delta, rivers. etc) send back all ekiti people? And especially disabled students in school.
PoliticsRe: 30 Physically Challenged Deltans Ejected In Ekiti by icez: 8:55pm On Oct 26, 2011
Ufeolorun:
Now that you have all successfully plunged your knives into Ekiti and tweaked them several times,you people should start asking a basic question why a state that receives billions of naira in fed. allocation ,on top of it a 13% derivation and lest i forget  huge taxes from the multinational oil companies and its service companies would not/ cannot take care of its most vulnerable.
This write up contains little info. about the eviction story cos it isn't the real or the main point of the article and some of you are just going on about like its some flipping breaking news.
Oil companies never pay money to the state govns. All monies go to abj, that is why the oil companies are not responsible to the oil communities. The don't care if there is an oil spill or not, if you talk to them they will tell you to go to abj and if you insist; they will send they nigerian army after you.
 The 13% you talk about is not much. They cost of construction in the niger-delta is the highest in naija. Do you know what it cost to construct roads in mangrove-swamps of the delta? Even amaechi that was talking tough, had to go and borrow money from the bond market. But still; education and health(for children and the elderly) is free. Whether you just arrived rivers yesterday or not, whether you are a rivers man or not. No discrimination.
  In addition these students did not just arrive, they were already in school. This is not about delta state, it could be students from any other state. There is no justification for their actions.
PoliticsRe: 30 Physically Challenged Deltans Ejected In Ekiti by icez: 8:31pm On Oct 26, 2011
My question is; how much is 30 students costing the ekiti state government? It is not as if they are living on "Park Lane" or some posh area of kensington and chelsea. embarassed.  Are they sleeping on golden beds? Why can't they reduce their salaries and allowances to save cost? So now that they have evicted those students, is ekiti going to be any richer? The answer is no.
 It is a wrong and wicked decision.
PoliticsRe: 30 Physically Challenged Deltans Ejected In Ekiti by icez: 7:19pm On Oct 26, 2011
jason123:
@ICEZ

You have just told them the truth. A lot of Yorubas from Ondo come to Delta state (warri) to seek[b] BETTER[/b] education. Its just a shame that some Ekiti peeps are justifying this move by the Governor.
There are yoruba peeps working in edo state government. Even in rivers state government, there was a time some rivers people were using it against odili. Even his adc (ola) was a yoruba guy. I know there are a lot of yorubas in warri, i did not just want to mention it. That was why i used rivers as an example. They are just trying to justify what is wrong.
I asked a question about[b] if niger-delta states reciprocated the gesture and they failed to give an answer.[/b]
PoliticsRe: 30 Physically Challenged Deltans Ejected In Ekiti by icez: 6:46pm On Oct 26, 2011
Aigbofa:
This is exactly what I don't understand, why should one of the poorest states in Nigeria shoulder the burden of taking care of indigenes from one of the richest states?

If they came to Ekiti just to take advantage of better facilities, I think the government of Delta should be made to pay, rather than expell them.
The way you talk as if these people have the key to delta state treasury. They are disabled nigerian children. What sin have they committed? If adams oshimhole, uduaghan, amaechi or even fashola ask ekiti peeps in public schools that are free to pay fees, how would you feel?
PoliticsRe: 30 Physically Challenged Deltans Ejected In Ekiti by icez: 6:13pm On Oct 26, 2011
Been in Ekiti for a while?

Citizens of rich Delta state in poor Ekiti state? Nah, they prolly went there for schooling.

It must be the Ikogosi spring or the healthy fishes in our river.
@iki
  Lets be serious  cool.  There are various ethnic nationalities living in different states across naija. In the uk places like south-east london, north london, east-london, birmingham, bedford, stoke-on-trent, nottingham, derby, bradford and some parts of liverpool and manchester are home to a large number of immigrants.
PoliticsRe: 30 Physically Challenged Deltans Ejected In Ekiti by icez: 5:53pm On Oct 26, 2011
@e-b
 We are talking about nigeria here. People in nigeria move from one place to another everyday. Do you know how many people move to lagos, ph or abj on a daily basis.
 Also the article did not state when the arrived ekiti. Even if the arrived yesterday, they have already been admitted into the school(or did they not know their state of origin before accepting them?). It is very likely that they have been in ekiti for a while, it is just a policy of the present governor. Which is not a good one.
 Come to think of it, how much will 30 disabled students cost the ekiti state public treasury? And mind you they are being trained, so they can be independent in future. Niger-delta states are very nice to yoruba peeps. The gov. should not start what he can not finish. Even Bola Ige, Ambrose Ali, Niyi Adebayo, James Ibori, Ayo Fayoshe, Segun Oni, Emma Uduaghan did not discriminate. It is just inhumane.
 You also did not respond to all the "good" works done by the states i listed to the yoruba peeps(especially ekiti-kete). wink. Without any form of discrimination.
PoliticsRe: 30 Physically Challenged Deltans Ejected In Ekiti by icez: 4:51pm On Oct 26, 2011
[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=789802.msg9423149#msg9423149 date=1319640799]This path is not sustainable. Clear separation of responsibilities is necessary in federalism. It isn't state X's job to take care of State Y peeps. If that is the case, then you don't have federalism at all.

Maybe I should be asking State X to be building roads for me in State Y too[/quote]Bros, this is not about federalism. These are people who are in school, just like any child in any public school in nigeria.
  When i was in ph, primary to secondary education was free for all children(it is still free from what i hear). And i know that there are many yoruba children in ph( especially from ekiti state). Both of my neighbours were from ado-ekiti. There was even a time that the governor of ekiti ayo fayoshe visited peter odili and a street was named after ekiti state in ph. I know that rivers state assist everybody in that state(hausa and yoruba)
Also, rivers state sponsored a lot of yorubas(both muslim and christians) to go for pilgrimage from rivers state. All this was done, without considering their states of origin. Yoruba children enjoy free primary and secondary education in; edo, delta, rivers, bayelsa, akwa-ibom and cross-river state public schools. There is no discrimination.
 Now how will you feel if gov. amaechi were to wake up one day and say only rivers children are not to pay school fees or all this other stuff. Here in the uk whether you are  from bedfordshire, staffordshire or warwickshire does not matter. The county or borough you come from does not matter.
What is wrong is wrong. Removing disabled students from public schools is[b] wrong[/b].
PoliticsRe: 30 Physically Challenged Deltans Ejected In Ekiti by icez: 3:53pm On Oct 26, 2011
[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=789802.msg9423101#msg9423101 date=1319640480]ndoo_cuck: Truth be told, it depends on how much these disabled folks are costing per person per year. Anyway this misses the point.

Every state in Nigeria should try to provide adequate healthcare facilities and support for the disabled. I don't want a situation in which we spend money intending to build things for Ekiti indigenes, and due to poor decisions by other governors/states, we have to let everyone use what was meant only for indigenes.

That defeats the whole point of federalism  undecided

Imagine deciding too that you want to build amazing schools, but then have to let everyone use them, despite not being indigenes or having any real connection to the state.[/quote]you normally do not speak like this, what happened that you have suddenly turned into a tribalist.
PoliticsRe: 30 Physically Challenged Deltans Ejected In Ekiti by icez: 3:44pm On Oct 26, 2011
[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=789802.msg9422938#msg9422938 date=1319639375]@Aigbofa: So their own state and family has rejected them.

Yet Ekiti must take care of them?

Why? Why does Ekiti owe them anything beyond what their family and state owes them huh

This generosity is perhaps admirable for a person to do in their personal affairs, but a state government cannot do the same. Cannot be "generous" to people it is is not responsible for.

Unless these people have been documented as living in Ekiti State for a substantial period of time (doubtful, I'm guessing), then someone else needs to take care of them.[/quote]Why are u saying things like this? embarassed
Foreign AffairsRe: Tunisia Election - Ennahda Islamist Party Claim Victory by icez(op): 3:41pm On Oct 26, 2011
udezue:
LOL Kobojunkie, I have to agree with u.
undecided
Foreign AffairsRe: Tunisia Election - Ennahda Islamist Party Claim Victory by icez(op): 11:02pm On Oct 25, 2011
And next on the list;
Egypt
Libya
Nigeria(Boko Haram)
Foreign AffairsTunisia Election - Ennahda Islamist Party Claim Victory by icez(op): 10:49pm On Oct 25, 2011
A leading Islamist party has claimed victory in Tunisia's first democratic election, sending a message to other states in the region that long-sidelined Islamists are challenging for power after the "Arab Spring".

Official results have not been announced, but the Ennahda party said its workers had tallied the results posted at polling stations after Sunday's vote.

Almost three-quarters of those eligible to vote turned out for the first elections since the uprisings, which began in Tunisia and spread through the region.

"The first confirmed results show that Ennahda has obtained first place," campaign manager Abdelhamid Jlazzi said outside party headquarters in the centre of the Tunisian capital.

As he spoke, a crowd of more than 300 in the street shouted "Allahu Akbar!" or "God is great!" Other people started singing the Tunisian national anthem.


Kamel Jendoubi, head of the electoral commission, said the turnout was "over 60% and close to 70%" by 4pm UK time on Sunday - three hours before the polls closed.

The figure was beyond expectations despite what Mr Jendoubi described as some "soft" intimidation of voters.

He said this included street demonstrations and continued campaigning on voting day - which is against the rules - and that some parties had received warnings.

The elections are Tunisia's first since a popular uprising that overthrew its longstanding leader Zine El Abidine Ben Ali and set off similar rebellions across the Arab world.

Mindful that some people in Tunisia and elsewhere see the resurgence of Islamists as a threat to modern, liberal values, party officials said they were prepared to form an alliance with two secularist parties, Congress for the Republic and Ettakatol.


"We will spare no effort to create a stable political alliance , We reassure the investors and international economic partners," Jlazzi said.

Sunday's vote was for an assembly which will sit for one year to draft a new constitution. It will also appoint a new interim president and government to run the country until fresh elections late next year or early in 2013.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/yemen-deaths-stoke-turmoil-arab-world-023941317.html;
CrimeRe: 50 Lawyers To Defend 2 Youths Awaiting Amputation For Stealing Cow by icez: 11:53pm On Oct 11, 2011
Similarly, the Christians indigenous group has appealed to the state government to temper justice with mercy.

wetin be there own sef? cool

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