₦airaland Forum

hammerU:
SO WHERE IS YOUR CLAN ON THE MAP?

Awka

horsepower102:
You still don’t get it. Igbo women are free to marry whom they fall in love with. I just don’t support it with groups that hate or wish so much evil against the igbos.

There are so many igbophobic groups that want to marry igbo women. Yorubas are known for that.

I have no problem with igbo women marrying ibibios or Efiks and similar groups. They don’t have a history of wishing us evil.

You can’t hate and antagonize us yet come the next day to marry from us. Even here on Nairaland, some of the biggest tribalist are married to igbo women. Edo is included in this.

Yoruba are not necessarily Igbophobic they are just scared , disturbed, intimidated by the surging Igbo financial boom in their land....I mean , who wouldn't ? They are troubled they might wake up one day and their land will become Igbo owned. The people who really hate Igbo are SS Igbo.

Niccoloimhotep:
why is it such a big task for all Nigerian governors to rid the roads of sand dunes? The things is always a big turn off. Na wah o

Simply , laziness and lack of love for their fatherland.

Dedetwo:
Nigeria and its inhabitants are pitiably hilarious. Is public water supply in Imo state being hoarded? If so, who actually cached it? If actually Owerri has the benefit to enjoy public water supply, Hope Uzodinma definitely has no hand in it.

I thought so. It was Abagworo and co who were spreading that ignorant news. He restored water supply in 2 weeks...lmao

eduj:
Milverton road construction.
All pics courtesy of Mr onyebuchi ememanka(the man putting on the red cap) .Love the concept of covered drains

Open gutters with concrete covers...lol. Nigeria is a joke!

MelesZenawi:
Pure truth but today the story is a little bit different.

I dont mind people from my sub culture to marry from outside as long as they dont practice acts considered abominations in out land like eating eke Idenmili like Ebonyi and Enugu do. Learn our dialect and drop yours and transform into an Omanbala woman.

NaijirianKing:
Are you saying inter tribal marriages are sick and disgraceful?

If so, you would have to speak to the Igbo women who are engaging in such. Here, we merely lay out the facts and analyze what effect they will or will not have on Igbo Empowerment.

In regards to Igbo Empowerment, inter tribal marriage can be a good thing if:

1. It's done in small numbers, meaning less than 2.5% of Igbo girls marry outside, and

2. Those who do marry outside, only marry the top 10% income earners and wealth holders of the group from which they are marrying

This is the standard whites use before they allow their daughters to marry outside of their ethnic group or race. This will ensure that there is a proper socioeconomic trade off.

Please explain yourself more so that we fully understand, are you saying the number should be 0% inter tribal marriages? And if so, how would you enforce such a ban?

The reality is that it will happen, so we should have parameters for how it should be done. In my opinion, if you're going to do it, do it like Chioma, who married into a billionaire family thus ensuring her family will benefit from such a decision.

I hate inter tribal marriage but its meant to happen but what matters is the extent. Most of these Igbo women married to Yoruba are mostly Lagos based ones who never learned Igbo culture. And , no Igbo women are not known to cater to men , so , they will not be bringing any wealth to Igbo land. How many did Stella Damascus brought ?

Most Igbo girls consider Igbo language mgbekeish...they give their children white names out of inferiority complex and never speak our language. This is the reason why I push for a strong consciousness of our various sub tribes.

Most Igbo women married to Yoruba have no respect for Igbo culture...if you say to her Nne, kee ka imelu she replies you with huh!

horsepower102:
Let’s assume that what you said is true, how does it apply to today in 2020? I have been to so many weddings and have seen igbo men and women marry from all parts of Igboland.

How does your comment even make any sense?

What is your agenda?

Voicing your displeasure at the events of Igbo girls marrying Yoruba men sort of portray you as a weakling. Like you couldn't compete with them and now you are being a sore loser. We have more important and desperate needs that needs our attention. Meanwhile , the percentage of Igbo girls married to Yoruba men is not even up to a tenth of 1% of Igbo women. You shouldn't lose sleep over that.

Moreover, most of those Igbo girls married to Yoruba men are rotten eggs...mostly gold diggers who can bed anything. Didn't an Onicha woman who was vastly educated settled for an Atiku Abubakar and became his 3rd wife just because of money....these women have no shame.

By the way , you are not better than the Yoruba...to non Nigerians you are all the same. This thread is becoming nauseating

I specifically sought out an Anambra girl and married her because I don't want to hear any foreign dialect in my household

NaijirianKing:
If we can control it, then it may be used as a good thing. For example, when a Black American male obtains fame or vast sums of money, White fathers have no problem with their daughters marrying them.

This is because by marrying them, they're obtaining the resources of that wealthy male and transferring the resources to their family. For example Michael Jordan has a white wife, and when he passes away, his fortune will go to his wife and her white family.

To an extent, Igbo women generally only marry Yoruba men of means, or they stick with Igbo men. This may be a good thing, in limited numbers as a way to transfer wealth from the men to the family of the women.

What are your thoughts?

This is a sick and disgraceful suggestion. Within Igbo there is discrimination....in the 80s Anambra parents frown at their children marrying particularly from Imo. Fix your home , firstly

I didn't know that many Ukwunzu people regarded themselves as Igbo.

Also Nri-Awka isn't/wasn't an ethnic group. It is more of a modern geo-cultural term used only in academic circles, and doesn't connote the type of ethnic and kinship consciousness that exists for (say) Ezza or Uratta.

I agree largely with you though. But I'm not sure I agree that the linguistic connection is the only thing that defines Igboness. If it were, the branches of the Ibani-Ijo group that speak a variant of Igbo as a first language would be an Igbo 'ethnic group' too. But no serious scholar regards them as Igbo, largely on cultural grounds. This suggests to me that Igbo 'panethnicity' or 'meta-ethnicity' could have some cultural basis, which is extremely hard to define given the great bewildering cultural heterogeneity of the Igbo-speaking area.

So far, I have identified two cultural 'emblems' which I think are pan-Igbo.

1. The Ofo/Ovo/Ovbo/Owho as a rituo-political symbol.
2. Ajoku/Njoku/Ifejioku etc as the divinity of yams.

(I didn't include some more apparent ones such as the four-day week because we share those with our neighbours and it isn't clear yet whether it is a common legacy we share with our neighbours or a borrowed heritage, and because some peripheral Igbo groups such as the Izii have a different market/week system)

There could be others.

But, yea, linguistic affinity remains by far the most important single criterion for 'Igboness'.



PS: Your theory on the semantic history of the word 'Igbo' is...well, debatable.

The four market days were originally shrines in Anambra. That's why we say eke bia taa orji , oye taa orji , ana taa orji etc. Lack of written record has undermined our history

Afamed:
So you can only claim their land and resources but disown the natives of the land. You have just confirmed what the Rivers and Bayelsa people were saying. You are al interested in their oil not that the love you have for them that made you to claim Rivers , Delta and Bayelsa are Biafra land

All of a sudden you lost all your reasoning skills just because you can't stomach your ffoolery....Shameless element. Answer the question directed at you.

pazienza:
Igala bu Igala, Igbo bu Igbo. Stop living in fantasies Biko.
Idah is the ancestral home of Igalas. Igbos have no ancestral home, we came in barges. Some through the South west direction, some through the Kogi direction, and some through the Cross River direction. Then we had cross migration within ourselves, blending and mixing until we became who we are today.

Igalas are our neighbors, just as Ogonis, Edos, Ikwerres, Ekoi, Ibibios and Annangs are. Just neighbors who we intermarried with and had other economic interactions with.
Nothing more and nothing less. Those people don't see us as anything but as neighbours, we must start seeing them as same, if we at all wish to grow strong again.

Emotionalism must give way for pragmatism.

Nwokem, Anambra steeti nwelu Igala na imie. These your careless statement will only create more enemies...we need to be in good terms with everybody. Learn some diplomacy!

Osagyefo98:
Just bear in mind that your agenda is only a propaganda. It won't work.

There must be respect and understanding on all sides.

Don't make yourself to be the co-author of your own misfortune.

The guy has nothing tangible to build his ideologies on just some phantom imaginations...lol

The day I will mount the podium and give that harangue speech is the day Umu Omanbala will see the light. Let's Pazienza keep dreaming.

pazienza:
That you are not Igbo has never been in doubt for me.
Just that I feel there is no point flogging a dead horse, so I let you be, and only choose to always counteract your Igbo divisive posts. Like when you recently tried to limit Igboland to just South East.

Here we go again...you will make a terrible detective. You are beginning to sound like a broken record.

pazienza:
Communities in Orumba and even some in Aguata, don't have those features you listed there.
Who is to say you are not an Igala man from Anambra who doesn't want to unite with his Kogi people, but want to keep Ndiigbo in Anambra away from their kin and kiths in other parts of Igboland?

Firstly, many Anambra towns have Igala migrants. Onicha has it , Aguleri and environs, Idenmili town like Obosi , Oyi towns etc....Therefore, Igala is our relatives...EOD !

I asked that specific question for a reason...I know a town like Umunze and very few dont have it and you knew this because of your familiarity and study not out of thin air. But, does your accomplice know this, while he vows I am not from Anambra..

Pazienza do you know anything about Anambra apart from the materials you read ? Do you know the difference between sounds of Akwunechenyi and Ijele drums ? You don't !

You dont know the complete instruments of Egwu Ota and Ufie. You dont know it !

UdechiHD:
I blame nairaland for giving all the imposters the platform to sow Igbo division. This they can't try on Twitter or Facebook.

Pazienza don land and now you feel relieved....lol

UdechiHD:
Lol! Onye obia. Keep fooling yourself.

Just ask me to teach you my beautiful and elegant culture...shikena. I dont mind to share but show some humility...lol

Whenever Akpokuodike arrives to an Anambra even there is a famous Igba Ndi Eze rattling....its a derivative of Ijele and Akwunechenyi....Enwee Ndi nwe Obodo nwee ndi na agbia mmili. Nwokem , iso na Ndi na asa efele....lol

Osagyefo98:
So those who doesn't know are sons of sandy soil?

Your question is simply childish and that of a wounded soldier struggling for survival.

Forget the chap. He couldn't answer my questions. Pazienza who summoned the courage to question my identity could....his has to call Ogidi to find out and even people at Ogidi might not know....lmao

UdechiHD:
I know Umuoji has two rulers. A traditional Eze and an Igwe. Every Igbo clan usually have two. One traditional and the one instituted by the colonialist.
I also know the title of the Eze and Igwe. But you on the other hand runs to Google to ask. I'm not even from Umuoji but I know Igbo cultural values than an outsider.

You dont know the Onowu Umuoji , who is the current regent.
You dont know who is Ike Okodu.
You dont know the Ikenga Okodu.

You don't know the Nze na Ozo system of Umuokodu....ife anaro eme gi....lol

Nwa Nze tijie Odu omee gini ? Finish the adage.
You dont know jack , nigga....I am too deep into Omanbala culture and spirituality.

Nwokem , ife na akulu egwu bi na ana mmuo....you need to lower yourself, listen and learn when I talk! You are a chaff...I wanted to indulge you and see what you are about...all puff and no punch.

UdechiHD:
I know Umuoji has two rulers. A traditional Eze and an Igwe. Every Igbo clan usually have two. One traditional and the one instituted by the colonialist.
I also know the title of the Eze and Igwe. But you on the other hand runs to Google to ask. I'm not even from Umuoji but I know Igbo cultural values than an outsider.

You don't know jack , nigga !! You are hopelessly ignorant and pathetic.

You can't answer my questions because you are a foreigner in Omanbala knowledge. You can't find any of these things on Google...ofeke leru oba ji nnia !

UdechiHD:
Lol! You tried at least, by mentioning all the Okodu clans.
What is the title of the Igwe of your village.

You haven't answered any of my questions yet I am the one who isn't Igbo ?

Umuoji has dual traditional rulers the original Ezeani/ Eze Umuoji and the warrant chief/ Igwe instituted by the colonialist

UdechiHD:
There was never an Omanbala re-emergence. There was never an Omanbala culture. None that existed in the past and non that exist in the present. It's only a figment of your imagination. What we have was Nri hegemony. But a outsider such as you don't know this, hence you hinge your divisive tendencies to a geographical expression called Anambra.
All of you always want to use Anambra state to do just dirty jobs.

When Ifeukwuanim/Menri arrived at the Omanbala river with his contingent he met aborigines who he combined with to create the Omanbala culture. Nri did invent everything.

UdechiHD:
Lol! Old school trick. You can't fool me. What part of Anambra are you from? I will throw a bombshell later.
Let's settle this.

I am not here to banter with you. Answer my question, kindly. What is the difference between Ufie and Egwu ota...many Nze men don't even know this and you had the temerity to say I am not from Anambra. Its disrespectful....Anambra doesn't get better than Umuoji!

UdechiHD:
I put a challenge to you now. Where in Anambra are you from, Mr Omanbala. Let's settle this.

Umuoji Igwulube Okodu
Abateghete Ezeogu
Nkpor Edike

Okodu clans with progenitor from Nri.

Ebo = Urumkpu Ndi Agu/ Achalagu

UdechiHD:
Nobody in their right sense will call you Yoruba. You that don't even know the road to your said village. Lol!
Your ethnic group is closer to us and you've have been using Igbo to carry out your divisive onslaughts.
Where do you say that you're from again?

So, I suppose I am from Benin , Ikwere , Uhrobo or Ijaw and, no longer a bastard fathered by invading Hausa soldiers according to Pazienza.

Just a quick question.
1. Can you explain the difference between egwu ota and ufie ? 2. What is the difference between igba akwunechenyi and igba ijele ? Only true Anambra Igbos can answer these questions....lol.

Snipper007:
OTUOCHA

Otu= Beach
Ocha refers to the white soil on the beach premises

AmericanQuarter:
Wow lalasticlala

Nnaa, whatever happened to the Onicha water scheme that was taken over by a South African company?

hammerU:
U WILL NOT KNOW WAT IPOB IS DOING FOR U, BUT IT IS WELL.

THERE IS A REASON, ENUGU IS NOT YET COMPLETELY TAKEN OVER.

IF WE FOLLOW U AND YOUR POLITICIANS, IT WILL BE HANDED TO FULANI WITHOUT A SINGLE SHOT FIRED.

IPOB IS THE ONLY GROUP FULANI FEARS.

If Igbo governors follow my ideas and reduce cost of governance and pump 80% of their budget into infrastructures and social services...Igbo land will be the richest region in Africa. But , I know you guys are daft !! Most Igbos are emotional wrecks. Stop blaming Fulani and Hausa because they didn't instruct your governors to impoverish your towns. Neither Biafra nor Igbo Presidency will solve your problems....you have every tool to solve your problems but you rather blame Fulani