^^^

Kobojunkie is a roundabouter; always shifting the goal post. Best to ignore him.

Lasinoh:


Please, stick to the topic.
You should be mourning Ojukwu not picking fights on NL.
Abi your brain dey for Ojukwu golden casket?

He is only acting true to Ojukwus character. Remember Ojukwu was a fake warrior in RL.  How better to immortalize his greatness than picking fights on his burial ground?

musiwa,,.:

change. I am not a person that give up. And you will see, I won at last. Cant you see the number of people been killed for you to know that I am serious.

Why are you fighting for Fawehinmis wife? Are you dating her?

Beaf:

You don turn to hustler?

Taking after you boss.

Kobojunkie:

Wow  . . . you really are slow, aren't you? How can I hate someone that I have never met and whose life does not directly, or indirectly impact mine?
I cannot hate the next man for his skin color, race, religion or upbringing. I can definitely tell him my opinion on his actions and how I feel about it but not sure how that would constitute hate for people like you.

Now to what irks me even more about your claim above . . . [size=18pt]are you sure you are male cause I so do not like other males who try to play the "African Woman" gossip game[/size]. I do not engage in that in my life and I steer clear of people who do as something about that just seems so depraved, and immature to me

Not that it matters. . . . please stop the desperate attempts to derail the thread. If you have nothing useful to add, please exit so those who are at least educated can discuss the issue.

SO Kobojunkie is a dycksonian . . . Egbele ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. Wey gay Ekt Bear wey wan suck Kobojinkie dyck

BlackPikiN:

This a real one not pictures.

Listen to these old men sing Biafran motivation song abi na war song.

Isnt that the same song the sing when they are about to swindle their unsuspecting neighbors?

No shame at all? Treating the death of their dumb Eze gburugburu Ike Eba like another one big scam.

these people no go kill us. We might as well declare a work free week in Alaigbo just because they wan bury a p/e/d/o/p/h/i/l/e.

Why would they not hold a memorial for him in Atlanta? Anyway, they have enough time on their hands. Atlanta Ibos . . . yahoo men by night, Ike Eba memorial attendees by day. ****shrugs****

tpia@:

true that.

let him do whatever he likes jare.


its his site.

Spoken like a true non-technical person.

manmustwac:

You must be high on cow dung if you if you seriously believe what you've just written

I have explained it to those around me, the truth is that Spuds will be left to battle with Arsenal for the 4th spot unfortunately, but I sense after next week, it will be a three way battle for 3rd spot instead of a two way battle for the 4th spot.

There is no way Spuds is getting any point against Manure, and they'll also drop points at Everton as expected. Chelsea's next two games are certain 3-pointers against a couple of the mid-lower table teams, so by the time Chelsea host Spurs in a couple weeks time or thereabout, the most that will separate the three teams will be 3 points.  And at that stage, only God can save Spurs.

MY fellow Ibo brothers, its is time for Dinner . . . Alaigbo stlyleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

This is becoming ridiculous!

pcicero:

So, Igbaodun is from Modakeke!

I'd sooner be from Alaigbo than be from Modeke

IGotIssues:

That comma there was definitely unnecessary.

He is probably friends with Jarus in RL.

[size=18pt]Memoirs of times at 50 year old Great Ife
[/size]
By Niyi Egbe

Here was I in 1979, teaming with the second set of hordes of young Nigerians seeking entrance into institutions of higher learning in Nigeria via the then barely one year old Joint Admission and Matriculation Board. I hardly had any guidance as to which of the nation’s universities to attend. I merely looked up the JAMB brochure and opted for the study of Animal Science at the University of Ife. I knew next to nothing about the school, but was satisfied that it would offer reasonable adventure. I didn’t wish to gravitate to familiar University of Benin as most of my mates in Edo College, Benin nor the all too familiar University of Lagos, which was barely a stone throw from my residence in Akoka, Lagos. I needed a calculated adventure. Ife offered it and I gladly accepted it.

My unguarded choice of the then University of Ife among the options is one I would relish for life. After seeing my name on the admission list, I decided taking a trip to the school to see how it would look like. What greeted my young mind virtually had me pass out. My eyes were scintillated by the sight of an impressive stretch of well laid lawn garnished with floricultural species carefully arranged and showcasing the beauty that nature has always afforded. My lot was much comparable to the fate of a well mesmerized biblical Queen of Sheba amidst the garnished array of the palaces of King Solomon, the Great.

Was I in Nigeria? No I must be elsewhere. I wasn’t born with the silver spoon; and for my social phylum, apart from my foundational blissful village life in Igarra, Edo State, had me regularly exposed to the dung hills that in the 1970s littered the streets of my turfs in Yaba , Surulere and indeed other parts of the jungle of a city called Lagos (kudos to Senator Ahmed Tinubu and Governor Raji Fashola for their redemptive initiatives ) . Benin where I schooled was no better. Despite the impressive modernization initiatives of the then Governor Osaigbovo Ogbemudia, the city despite its international acclaim was largely rural. Irritating ferric red dust choked up attempts at giving the city a facelift.

In journeying to Ife, I had also had a laughable view of Ibadan, the city that stripped the late Aare Alasa, Uncle Bola Ige of his chieftaincy, thanks to his caustic tongue. Ibadan at the time had the acclaim - the largest city in West Africa and arguably, South of the Sahara. Being a city set on hills, from some elevation, one needn’t look further to understand what chaos poor urban planning could imply. The city flaunted an ugly sea of rusty weather worn roof tops. How could this historic city be dealt this poor showing? What I was seeing reminds me of the nauseating first impression Onitsha.The ancestral home of the late sage, Dr Nnamdi Azikiwe , viewed across the Niger from Asaba – was a far cry from the traditional dispersed housing pattern of the Igbos. The introduction to Onitsha was akin to the well familiar Daddy Shokey ville, our ghetto, Ajegunle. It must different Nigerians that planned this Ife.

After about a ten minute drive on that beautiful road - the famed Road One, we were to be greated another alluring scene, Ife’s well laid out and kempt Sports Centre on the left hand side. At the terminal of Road one were gigantic architectural master pieces all linked by lush green lawns, décors, walk ways, elevations and subways. I was later to realize that the intimidating architectural array warehoused the famous Oduduwa Hall, the Hezekiah Oluwasanmi library, the Senate Building cum Administrative building and the Humanities faculty.

I kept asking my teenage mind: did Nigerians think this place up? Are Nigerians indeed capable of planning, organizing and creating such wonder? Was I indeed in the same country where confusion is a festering norm? I left University that day fervently praying against hitches with any of my schools’ certificate papers which were mandatory for ratifying the admission I had been offered. Gladly, my prayers were answered.

Adorning the gate is a blue coloured shield with a burst of Oduduwa, the acclaimed progenitor of the Yoruba race super imposed on an open golden book, rounded by golden flickers. On the semi circular ark below the shield is motto of the University which reads: “For learning and culture”. Every student who wishes to ferry safely through Ife must familiarize him or herself with the message therein, lest he or she falls! In frustration over the rigorous requests of academics in the university, generations of the students find solace in adulterating the motto to: “For learning and torture”!

The Ife university community is sustained by a long enshrined tradition of sanity and decorum expected from inhabitants. Social deviants got roundly condemned and ostracized. If anyone is unreasoning and lousy, like a lady dressing lewdly or noisily meandering across lecture rooms or corridors, shouts of shoemay (meaning cobbler ), shee fo sho ( washer man) or Aro (remember the location of the Neuro Psycharitic hospital in Aro, near Abeokuta?) or….



Ife also had no room for ostentatious flaunting of wealth. As far as the community was concerned, all animals are equal and it should not translate to mean that some are not more equal. Should you dare them, they will show you pepper. Reminds me of a Students Union election held in the early 1980s between Chris Fajemifo and Georgie. Georgie dominated campaigns with beautiful posters and handbills as against a late entrant Fajemifo who had less fashionable black and white ones. When it was Speech Nite, Fajemifo made impressive showing always quoting philosophers especially the famed John Locke in response to questions. In the opinion of students, Georgie whose expensive array had won the hearts of the women folk didn’t deserve a win. Pronto! They came up with a Yoruba song:

O ba lowo lowo ko joo Gee, Fajemifo nio wole!

Meaning, even if you are so rich and resemble Georgie, Fajemifo is our choice. Fajemifo’s victory was landslide.

There were high demands on morals. For Ife, social activities needed by supported by intellectualism. Where there is shortcoming in the respect, the community takes offence. Reminds me of a beauty competition where so called beauty bevies couldn’t respond intellectually, to questions about national issues. Trust the campus gossip newspapers and paparazzi. They were awash with headlines that towed the theme – “Beauty without brain”. When a lady or man is lewd or suspected to be involved in sexual orgy or escapades with lecturers, the likes of Cobra magazine could be trusted to give them a dressing down.

The school was always agog with activities. Oduduwa Hall was the rallying ground for film shows, dramatic arts and seminars for ventilating ideas or hosting important programmes of the university. Politicians dreaded that hall like plague for it was hot seat for verifying claims. Former Lagos State governor, Chief Lateef Jakande was grilled when he told a bewildered audience that he would commence Lagos State University with an unreasonable number of students. Lecturers warned that he was going to compromise intellectualism, but the chief put up a stout defence of his programme. The Theatre Arts department always had much up sleeves with several stage plays. A friend ecently reminded me of some of plays staged in those days: Madam Tinubu, Our husband has gone mad again, Ope ra won yonsi, The gods are not to blame, Sogolo, … especially when our Nobel Laureate Professor Wole Soyinka was Head, Dramatic Arts Department and artistes like Funsho Alabi of blessed memory were budding. Capon Wole Soyinka was visible and seemed quite pleased as a personal encounter with him would unfold.

Pointer, a campus magazine that I edited had shown two films: Odesa File and Quo Vadis. We advertised the films immensely and had unprecedented response from students than we had bargained for. Eventually we had problems controlling the surging crowd. Lots forced their way into Oduduwa Hall beyond the accepted capacity to the displeasure of the management. We were subsequently fined N200 which in 1980 / 81 would fetch a student three square meals, daily for four months. For us, that fine was unbearable. I was mandated by the leadership of the magazine to appeal to Prof Soyinka to use his good offices to quash the unbearable penalty. I met him in his simple office, typical of any academic. He expressed displeasure at the penchant in students to show foreign films. ‘’Why aren’t you students creative” he inquired. I labored convincing him that Odessa file was about investigative journalism and Quo Vadis is centred on our faith – Christianity. Convinced, he told me point blank he would not usurp the powers of the manager of Oduduwa and offered paying part of the penalty from his personal means, giving us a cushioning. He advised that I confer with my colleagues and bring a feedback. My fellow budding media men were impressed with his fatherly disposition. The next day, right there in his office, he gave me either N50 or N100 and made our day. I will always relish that encounter with the man we call Kongi!

The early eighties presented challenges of studying in very uncomfortable circumstances. In my first year, we were officially eight in my Angola Hall room, but then squatters (for whatever reason they were then termed pirates) abounded. In some rooms each landlord had a pirate. Most students were quite young and keenly learnt to impress the Vice Chancellor, the erudite Professor Cyril Onwumechili , DSc, Physics and other erudite academicians like the late Prof Sam Aluko, Prof Ige Grillo, Prof Itse Sagay, Prof Biodun Jeyifo, Prof Caleb Adeniyi Osuntogun, Prof Adegboola, Prof Ademosun, Dr Dipo Fasina et cetra. Ife’s acclaimed academic programme was introduced by that imposing and brilliant Agricultural Economist, the late Prof Hezekiah Oluwasanmi. He laid the foundation for the programme which was akin to the American Course Unit System.

Learning at Ife necessitated the average student being thoroughly exposed to fields far flung from their core courses. As a science student, apart from mandatory foundational baptism in the place called the “white house” we got exposed to basic physics, chemistry, zoology and botany. We also had courses in the arts, sociology and philosophy. Ditto Law Students, who had to be groomed in basic mathematics, in preparation for would-be witty demands of courts.

Ife as centre of academic excellence contributed much to advances in natural and medical sciences as well as the liberal arts. I may not eminently speak of other departments, but can about agriculture. Research in Agriculture at Ife led to the development of several crop varieties for increased productivity and resistance to pests and diseases. Genetically engineered Ife brown cowpea, Ife plum tomato and maize varieties have gained wide acceptance among farmers nationwide. Ife also contributed immensely to advances in the nutrition of the domestic fowl, the West African dwarf goats and sheep and entomology.

In my opinion, this article wouldn’t be complete without an insight into student unionism in Ife. Through unionism, the average Ife student is mobilized to be part of the struggle to free the nation from the manacles of misrule and corruption. Ife students always rose to roundly and squarely condemn social maladies. In the early 1980s, never say die radical students’ union activitists like Wole Olaoye, Femi Falana respectively President and Public Relations Officer of the Student Union virtually gave General Olusegun Obasanjo sleepless nights at Dodan Barracks, Obalende, Lagos, then the seat of power. They regularly besieged the city of Lagos with protests. I was glad that decades on, Ife students have sustained the tradition. A few years back, they held Mallam Nuhu Ribadu hostage over perceived selective persecution of opponents of the ruling People’s Democratic Party. Ironically, the former EFCC boss had been receiving accolades and awards from students of other institutions, not Ife!

On a sad note, some of those struggles against wrongs could be expensive. In 1982/ 83, four students lost their lives. The Nigeria Police bared its customary fangs and extinguished Wemimo Akinbolu and three others. Ironically, they were part of a protest against the beheading of their colleague, Bukola Arogundade, by suspected ritualists in Ife town. A deceptively understanding Police, teargassed those great souls to early graves, wounding scores of others.

Also, student’s unionism wasn’t all together clean. There were at times, cases of corrupt handling of funds. The student body evolved a safe formula to circumvent this. They often left the Treasurer post either to Scripture Union adherents (Born again Christians) or women. They will deny the same group election into key positions like the Presidency or Public Relations Officer for fear that they would be too timid. Tribalism also crept in on some occasions. However brilliant a non Yoruba is, the Presidency was in the exclusive preserve of sons of Oduduwa. There were also cases of rigging in elections, however neophyte law students always thoroughly investigated and pressed redress where possible.

Great Ife, as Lagosians would say: A yo fun e, a yo fun ra wa (we rejoice with you, we the alumni rejoice with ourselves)! Aluta continua, victoria aceta!

Niyi Egbe, an Agriculturist and Media Consultant lives in Lagos, Nigeria

htajz:

what in esssence your justifying your governors pocketing the money?  that dont even make sense, how about the yorubas in portharcourt, warri ,yenogoa,asaba, calabar etc  are they not also refugees going from your reasoning.
there is no difference between portharcourt and lagos they both have lots of non indigens and non nigerians resideing there but you dont see those of us from t[size=18pt]here calling those people refugees including the yorubas working and living there or is not humans that are developing those cities even when it is our oil [/size] that is feeding you now. nobody will buy this your story , sorry sir, and pls you can reply me without trying to turn this to another igboyoruba war. secondly lagos was a federal teritory until 1999 so it was developed with FG money= nigerdelta oil.

How could you? The Yorubas in Portharcourt are highly educated and they are there to help you develop and become more civilized. In a way, they can be considered expats. They are some of the sharpest young minds we have in the country. Most are Engineers, well educated in the latest technologies from some of the best universities in the country, mostly in the SW  of course.     On the other hand, the Ibos and non-indigenes in the SW are there because the Yorubas are in a way trying to help their impoverished neighbors economically;  make some money they can send back to their families and develop their homeland.  Lagos, and the SW in general, is a  testament to the superior intellect of the Yorubas. It is a testament to what is possible with hardwork and passion  and commitment to excellence. Lagos/SW is a testament to what is possible when you stop whining and just bend down, concentrate, focus and get to work. Lagos/ SW is a testament to what is possible from a mind free of malice and defeatist mentality.  Lagos/SW is what is possible when you have confidence in yourself and move on from adversities with a warrior's mentality, vs. the Ibos victim mentality/outlook.

And No, the Yorubas in PH cant be considered refugees because they are upstanding members of their community; thanks to the mental toughness.

Ibo people and crime go hand in hand. I wont be surprised if it turns out that  Boko Haram HQ is in the SE.

To work and earn money the right way na wahala for my Nna bothers and sisters, but to commit crime, na so it sweet their body.

htajz:

my point every region have their own problems

Really? I always thought the SW was the only problem - free zone in Nigeria. So we also have problems? WTF? I thought we were superhuman? Mehn, I have been brainwashed for far too long by all these Yoruba people on NL. This is a real eye-opener for me and other Yoruba 'fiffle.'

but the yorubas keep denying even when they suffer more in the south,

But why do they do that? And how come I didnt know about these denials until now? Youve really unearthed something profound here and if I were you, I would make it my personal mission to make all Yoruba people, wherever they may be, know about this groundbreaking information you just discovered.

remove lagos and you will see there"s nothing to write home about yorubaland.

Trust me, remove your head, there is nothing to write home about you. I lie?

north have finally accepted theres massive overty theres ,

Finally accepted? Were they forced to accept it? Why cant they be like the Yorubas and deny, deny, deny. And deny some more. Works for Yoruba people, it would probably work for them too. Reality is overrated my dear.

east have accepted they are being cheated ,state creation, reduction of population ,low alocation

Wow I am really sorry for what the a east is going through as clearly articulated by your well thought-out line above. However, the question is who is the perpetrator of these crimes against the East? The North that just accepted that there is ' massive' poverty in their midst or the Yoruba people that cant stop denying everything. I assume the Yorubas inclination to deny is most likely at the root of Ndigbos problem?

but yoruba  no way na only bragging they dey. infact they always try to sabotage threads where people from other regions try to discuss their problems.

Well, since we are at the top of the totem pole as far as Nigeria is concerned, this is positive thinking at work. Very simple! we just figure why whine about the bad situations in our villages when we can simply have Lagos and whatever we want by just DENYING everything. After all,  If you live in a bubble of perfect wish-fulfillment, coupled with a huge ego and the supernatural ability to just DENY anything like we do in the SW, how could you imagine that, for example, some poor fellow in the EAST might run up against unexpected kidnappers, otokotoists, fake medicine producers, expert 419ers and rap/i/s/ts,  or be just too lazy mentally and physically to work hard and make a better life for himself.


On a more serious note: Yoruba people did not start out as deluded optimists like you wrongly assume. The original ethos of my fore fathers and fore mothers, at least of Odua descendants, was a grim Yorubanism that offered wealth only through hard work and savings, and even then made no promises at all.  Meaning, you might work hard and still fail; you certainly wouldn't get anywhere by whining and sitting idly waiting for someone else to solve your problems for you. And definitely, your problems wouldn't get solved by shouting marginalization every opportunity you get and  making your abode uninhabitable for trade; re: kidnapping, otokotoism, Aba made, fake medicine etc. When it comes to how we think, we just dont  DENY, we also problem solve collectively and individually. As the case histories of depressives show, consistent pessimism and whining can be just as baseless and deluded as merely denying events on ground.  Contrary to what you stated in your opening post and unlike our ever-whining brothers from the crime prone zone in the East, Yoruba people are the most realistic of all the Nigerian groups -- seeing the risks, eschewing violence and other anti-social/anti-trade behaviors,  enthusiasm, having the courage to bear bad news, problem solving, and being prepared for famine as well as plenty.

Omo_Tier1:

Chei! y me come miss this match nah

. . . because thats your portion in this life; that is, to miss important things.

donedy:

Your response to that fool is a very educative one. Someone said that the best defense strategy for[size=18pt] loosers[/size] is to divert the topic to something meaningless like grammar.

You mean losers like you? lol

If you want to write well, you need to lose that your ugly Yoruba accent. Olodo oshi


Loooser ko, okun sokoto ni. Ara oko.

Andre Uweh:

[size=18pt]No need for that[/size]. Jarus, I have read a lot of your work at the NVS and elsewhere. You are good writer and by far better than the chap. Please, take it easy. A lot of nairalanders here could be like that.

What a fine cop out! lol

Jarus:

[size=18pt]I have thrown a challenge at you[/size]? [size=18pt][s]Take it and let's go into a writing competition[/s][/size]. [size=18pt]i[/size] can invite [size=18pt]Prof[/size] Pius Adesanmi or [size=18pt]Dr[/size] Farooq Kperoogi or any other respected English teacher of your choice as judge.

Take the challenge, young man.

Challenge at or to me?  Make I no embarrass you any further Jarus.lol

I have no respect for Pius. I don't even read his crap. If you can get Kperoogi on board, I am downnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.


lol. Local Champion from Offa.  Jarus no mind me jor, you are  doing just fine playing ping pong at work.


PS: On a more serious note Mr. Suraj, did you take a writing class at Ife before you graduated? I seriously doubt it.

Eagle75:

Congrats Arsenal fc, hope u show same character against milan.

Its never over until its absolufuccckingly Over

[flash=400,400]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgxIMnqGq2w?version=3&hl=en_US[/flash]

Kay-Dee:

my alarm clock failed, why u nor wake me nah  

Don't tell me you are hitting that old cargo?

goaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal 7-2 in favor of Arsenal

Ati naaa won selese.

Jarus:

And when I say publication, I don't mean in popular side(letters to the editor), I mean full page article or those worthy of 'Guest columnist' status.

I may not be immune from errors(and no one is) but I know my quality. It's not arrogance, it's confidence.

To call my articles riddled with 'third grade errors' is height of ignorance, if not jealousy.

Only few of my mates can write better in this generation of Nigerians. Even professional journalists with trainings in writing(unlike me) will do better. And I have seen many editors confess to that.

Or you wanna enter for a writing challenge?

Well said, local champion!  For someone who has never had the opportunity to publish in a reputable Newspaper  let me point out that you have no idea what it takes to write well and persuade people. Your shabbily written articles are a disgrace to every college educated Nigerian. Whats worse is that you actually graduated with distinction from OAU, our very own Harvard. ***Shrugs*** Anyone with half a brain can publish anything in any Nigerian newspaper.  Heck, My HS buddy, another OAU grad, just published an article in some major Nigerian newspapers; suffice to say, the quality, like what is obtainable in your articles, left much to be desired. TBH, you are not fit to publish in my college newspaper, let alone become a guest columnist in any reputable newspaper where I live. But I know, in the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.

I am being honest with you here. You need to work on your writing skills. Its atrocious! The saddest thing is you don't know any better, that's why you seem to be taking my benign and very constructive criticism personal.

Jarus:

Another similarity between Zik and [size=18pt]Ojukwu is, both [/size]of them speak Igbo, Hausa and Yoruba fluently.

That is a comma splice. Most of your published articles are ridden with third grade errors. You need to improve on your writing skills; honest truth from someone who cares.

Ileke-IdI:

OMGGGG

"ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww"  to the "New Nl".

Seun, the color combination is fcukked up. Makes my eyes cry.

Who cares about what it does to your eyes? What we care about is how it makes your p/u/n//n/y spasm?

I have a secret Quran where Prophet Muhammed (PBUH) predicted the coming of christ. So what gives?

EzeUche:

It is "Igbos," not "Ibos."

Spell the name right if you want any answers to your questions.

What difference does it make?

Cannibals Vs human eaters: same same

Natasha,,:
And what do I care??    you just showed the world how childish you are, gosh get a life and stop wishing things went that way, you're still an agboro and nothing will change that, get that into your thick brain AND [size=18pt]NOW I'M JUST WONDERING HOW MANY PEOPLE YOU'VE KILLED ALREADY[/size]. Bragging on nl like I care about what you do. Go and learn how to be mature, you're way too childish lil brat    '' I rocked in Nigeria, I rocked in the Village, I still rock'' gosh and you call your self an adult? phewwwww  

With respect to what I do, thats a daily occurrence, unfortunately. No matter how hard you try, people die, sometimes from your mistakes , but mostly due to circumstances beyond my control.  The point here is that you will never get to a situation where people will look up to you to make life and death decisions. I make judgement calls everyday, to push or not to push, to cut or not to cut.  I do these with calmness because when I was your age, I spent more of my  time judiciously with Ababio, Okeke, Modern Biology, Dele Ashade etc  than I did online/NL. I have been been awarded citations in practically every school I have attended.  And I am never (n)ever caught unprepared. I was doing vector in SS1. In fact i am in awe of myself.  Now, log off and go cry and after you are done crying, go study hard if you ever want to amount to anything in this life.


Singing: I got plenty IQ dollars in my name,  in my name , in my name. Come chop my intellect money. I get plenty intellect in my name. Too much IQ is not enough intellect. lol