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@asha she neva said that so why the attack?

u got IM, messenger, facebook etc

i'll tell u in a private sphere

author=~Sauron~ link=topic=313573.msg4453010#msg4453010 date=1251669060]
So moving Northern beggars back to their roots is treating them cruelly?
What makes you think these beggars weren't itching to go back to their roots but couldn't because of their financial status?
A man is deaf and dumb and begging alms on the streets. Lagos cannot cater for them like the developed world would. . . .The best option is to take them where they can get help.

you made very valid points above, so then the answer is forceful deportation? I think most people are not arguing with beggars on the street being an eyesore or a problem to society but its how it was tackled na im be the wahala,

Most of em came to Lagos in the first place because of the usual hear-says that people pick naira on Lagos trees.
U know the drill. . . . .

true true, ah ah u think say europe or america na heaven? but still people risk their life to go to such places because of what they hear, So hey you cant kill determination or will,

The real solution is the federal government shoring up to its responsibility and the fake solution is the so called eviction of these physically challenged

So a governor cannot decide what he wants from his State again?
Do you know the powers/functions of a state governor or are you just fibbing around?

oh no bro dont misunderstand me, governors should know what they want as long as in the confine of the law, i challenge u to show me where in the lagos constutution that says beggars should be deported back to their state of origin

author=~Sauron~ link=topic=313573.msg4452927#msg4452927 date=1251667636]
So unemployment is the reasons handicapped beggars litter the streets of Lagos?
How do you intend to fix a job for beggars who are blind, deaf, dumb with no hands?
U amuse me?

i amuse you? ok are u done laughing? Back to the issue, yes unemployment is part of the reason, poverty, i can go on and on but thats not relevant.,, we are talking about uprooting citizens of a country from one state to another, Ok if u say they are not unemployed that they are blind, deaf, dumb etc, oh boy u no dey shame? so treating the disable cruelly is justified cos they are disabled, becuase GOD created u healthy doesnt mean u should hate on your fellow humans who are physically challenged

These beggars are disabled. . . . .They cannot work.
The best thing is to send them home where they can get help instead of feeding on scraps.
Lagosians are yet to eat 3 square meals let alone feeding Northern beggars.

umm i think if they could get hope from wherever they came from they woudlnt be in lagos in the first place,
Eating 3square meals a day or not, these beggars are not at gunpoint telling u to give them money or food, its your perogative and discretion so free them

So because Lagos is not your property means you cannot do your best to make the place conducive for all and sundry?
The mentality of some Nigerians is nothing to write home about.
Left to you, Lagos should be left ungoverned cos(in your words). . . . .it is no one's property.
What a joke!!!

guy stop misconfiguring my uttering ( shoo am a spoker hehehe) anyway i said no ones personal property, meaning u dont make unilateral decisions about the state like say na ur papa own am

@Sauron


Evict them. . . . . .Lagos is not cut n dried for everybody.They should stay in their native land and don't make a profession out of begging alms.

well until the government create jobs for the youth they are gonna come, which one come be stay in their native land? hope u no dey hate cos no be your papa own lagos

What other ways? Lodge them in Sheraton Hotel with our taxes?

our taxes? shoo u dey pay tax? even if u do still no be your papa own lagos, And nobody said put them in sheraton hotel// I was reading sometime back how the lagos government took some area boys and schooled them in some trade, well i think same thing can/should be done here,

Would you let these beggars camp in front of your gate in Lagos?

why do we always use the wrong analogies to justify things that are wrong? guy Lagos is not anybodys personal property

~Sauron~:
Tell me anywhere in the world where the same method wouldn't have been deployed by the government.
What is wrong in moving people who are constituting nuisance in the city to somewhere they can feel more at home?
Northern beggars have no business loitering in the streets of Lagos without contributing nowt to the development of the state.

This why i think Nigeria should be made a nanny state. . . . .I cannot understand why we want to be United States when we are at best Vietnam.

well until then we are one country so stop the cross border evictions,

I agree with you that these beggars dont add to the development of Lagos but hey still dont see or treat them as others (AKA Northerners) we can find a humane other than eviction like thats gonna stop anything

The truth is lagos is the commercial nerve of Nigeria and with abject poverty people still gonna be drawn to lagos in droves so he should expect more beggars

Kobojunkie:
Sigh!!!!

Moving Yorubas from one state or another AGAINST their will, is deportation. I know people are quick to condemn Wiki when it is convenient but spout the same and accept it when it is . But that does not change wha this is here. Maroko folks were not MOVED to another STATE. They were moved around WITHIN The same State. In tthis case however, people were MOVED from POINT A to POINT B in hopes of getting them to their STATES OF ORIGIN, which happens to be OUTSIDE of the LAGOS state JURISDICTION. So again, whether you want to use deport, evict, or barnish, people were moved from point a to be against their own will and outside of the jurisdiction of the government doing so.

my guy tell dem,

Sauron honestly its not about ethnicity, if he removed yoruba beggars from ile ife its still wrong as long as they are resident of Lagos and Nigerian

~Sauron~:
Fashola evicted 160 Northern beggars. . . . .He did not deport them.
None of em came from Ghana, UAE or Budapest.
How do you deport citizens of a country from the same country?

Na wa o, some people no wan gree, Whether it is eviction or deportation, it is still wrong to come and remove resident of a state to another state without no legal backing,

If this poor people had a warrant for their arrest in other states ehen then its ok to take them to the states they are wanted to face the charge,

Olayinkaoj:
I believe there is ''juju'' in football. If you dont believe please go and watch the 1994 Nations cups semi final between Nigeria and Ivory coast.

I was in Oduduwa college Annex, Ile-Ife ( a sister college to the famous Oduduwa College Ile-Ife) btw 1981 and 1984. I cant remember the exact year between the mentioned period, my school had a football match with another school call Idita Community grammar Sch. A class mate happened to be from a herbalist family, he brought a ''juju pad-lock'' for the match. Why I believe there is juju is that our opponent in the match could not score even at goal mouth, meanwhile, the pad-lock was getting hot in the small carton it was kept beside us, at about 85th minutes of the match, the padlock became hot red and exploded and the components dis-membered, immediately the opponent equalized, ''Omode ko mo oogun, o hun pe ni efo'', there is juju in football but how 100% effective it is is what I cant establish

daddy u don old o

ritchboy:
Anyone who believes in such nonsense requires URGENT psychiatric evaluation.

my guy i no know where u for grow, but take am from person wey grow up for warri i don see things, Am a bonafide christian but wetin i don see with my eyes no be wetin dem go use mouth yan

bone o[b]jas dey, if u doubt roll come warri[/b]

presido1:
Did she use juju?

nah am just clowning on how in the show she was so serious/confident talking about jas

[i] ]Effc are scared of them yahoo yahoo guys because they use jas [/i

up MEND down other kidnappers

Sagamite:
Your grammar is fuucked, men.

hehehe i thought i was the only one that noticed

THE AMAKA:
havent you been dismissed?
wow is that something your little girl does since her mouth isnt even wide enough for her own thumb?
this is coming from a guy who day dreams and watches a girl with under developed breast, hips, and butt.
someone who probably hasnt even had her period.
a little girl lover.

hmmm shame!

hahaha

u make me laugh