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kkins25:
I already gave my opinion on Trump. My point here is, let's recognize that Kamala didn't address key questions. So as far as substance goes, she only performed slightly better than Trump.

You said that was not her goal. Unless you were to provide credible evidence that this was indeed the intention, then saying "that was her goal," is just making up excuses the same way the MAGA guys do. Anybody can make excuses for their preferred candidate, but we must recognize the bias.

During the debate, I commented that she was dodging questions, so, this isn't an afterthought. She scored good points against Trump, but that's different from not providing substance.

Kamala Harris’ main goals in the debate with Donald Trump. Look presidential, keep her cool
(Written before the debate)
https://www.yahoo.com/news/kamala-harris-main-goals-debate-130000338.html

bemeruca:
And I quoted people who lives live in Ohio.

Xavier5:
Okay sir... I will be liberalized my liberalism aka radicalized my moderate liberalism. Thanks for the charge 🤗🙃🤝


#Xavier

bemeruca:
Unless you have been to Ohio or lived in Ohio, shut the eff up. You cannot know what is going on there since you have not experienced it.

bemeruca:
Dude go and make your own research. I Haiti they don't speak English and they are very uneducated. Do your own research.

1stGenAmerican:
The white female version of Basillico. She’s run for several offices, lost all her races, is an Internet weirdo, prides herself in being a White Nationalist, and pushes baseless conspiracy theories. She’s banned from everything, including regular food delivery apps and Uber. She believes that the Russian-Ukrainian war is a fake battle staged by the media. Any sane politician would be ashamed to be publicly associated with her yet Dump sat and listened to all her bullshit as a means of debate prep.
This’ll tell you all you need to know: known racist, nutcase liar Marjorie Taylor Green calls Loomer a nutcase, a racist, and a liar. It’s that bad.

Laura Loomer told CNN today that after Trumps assassination attempt, she was the FIRST person he wanted to see the next day, and she started traveling on Trump Force One with him.

"Since the assassination attempt in Butler, Pennsylvania, earlier this summer, a stepped-up security presence on Trump’s Boeing 757 has meant fewer seats for advisers and allies. The arrangement has miffed some advisers and allies forced to fly commercial to Trump events, while giving the appearance, at least internally, of a special standing to those granted a coveted seat onboard what’s known as “Trump Force One.”

Loomer told CNN she also accompanied Trump on the plane the day after his assassination attempt.

“He wanted me on the plane with him the day after he almost got assassinated. I was with him. I flew with him to the (Republican National Convention), so it could show that I’m a trustworthy person, I have his back,” Loomer said."
https://x.com/MaileOnX/status/1834399523801792907
CNN article https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/12/politics/laura-loomer-donald-trump-influence/index.html.

raumdeuter:
What is says is that she will say anything to get elected which is different from what she believes while masking her core beliefs as the most left leaning candidate that has ever contested for president

Bernie knows she has not changed she's just pretending to get elected, once in office she will push her radical ideas

raumdeuter:
Bernie Sanders said it

NBC News host Kristen Welker asked: "She has previously supported Medicare for All, now she does not. She's previously supported a ban on fracking, now she does not. These, Senator, are ideas that you have campaigned on. Do you think that she is abandoning her progressive ideals?"

Sanders: "No, I don't think she's abandoning her ideals. I think she is trying to be pragmatic and do what she thinks is right in order to win the election."

kkins25:
This isn't about what Trump. I could equally say that was his goal.

Trump advisers have a theory for who’s letting the campaign down: It’s the candidate.

Axios reports that they’re saying he lost the debate because of deep-seated personality traits. They say he “falls for fake news,” listens too much to sycophants, and is too old to change.

What they’re saying to reporters is very plausible. That they’re saying it is pretty dishonorable.

P.S. Some Trump supporters have theorized that many disappointments from his first term happened because he had too many disloyal aides, but now he knows how to weed them out. Stories like this one don’t bolster that theory.
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/the-trump-campaign-vs-trump/

SpaceX:
hope you know she snubbed a fox news debate and again this is Trump's third debate. It disingenuous for you to say he is running from a debate!

happney65:
The Coward,Thug and Bully is now running away from more Debates.

Truly,The Dems did the very right thing by asking Biden to drop the Baton for a younger Person.

raumdeuter:
Kamala was inconsequential does not make VPs inconsequential. Most of the policies especially the wars under W Bush were mostly pushed by Cheney. Only a dummy will say Cheney was an inconsequential VP or HW Bush was an inconsequential VP

Pence was the face of the Evangelicals and most of the religious leaning policies in that admin were championed by Pence. The economics were mostly Trump. Anything on immigration, Economy those were Trumps strong points. Trump doesnt care about most of the religious stuffs. Does Trump know people don't pray at school or he cares where the embassy is and the symbolism of it?

That Kamala was largely useless does not mean others before her were

Its like a girl who sleeps around claiming every girl is a slut. Kamala was an inconsequential VP, Now you are trying to spin that All VPs are inconsequential

kkins25:
CNN is roasting Kamala for the same points I mentioned.. She dodge too many critical questions. She was only more presentable. As far as substance go, na stalemate.

raumdeuter:
Good question in bold

Mike Pence is a core conservative, A religious one and what Nigerians will call Born again while Trump was the extreme opposite of that

When you see things like
Moving the US. Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem.
Issuing guidance reaffirming that public schools must allow students to pray individually or in groups
Appointment of Judges who advance religious liberties like Gorsuch and Kavanaugh and confirmation of conservative judges to federal courts
Support for the Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives
Exemptions to the Obamacare's contraceptive mandate, allowing more employers and organizations to opt out of providing contraceptive coverage if it conflicted with their religious beliefs

Those are born again and Christian focused policies which Trump does not give 2 crap about but Pence used his office to push

In the Bush-Cheney regime, Those foreign policy and wars were largely pushed by Cheney

Now lets ask about Kamala in her 3.5yrs with Biden

raumdeuter:
More senseless word salad. No one this brainless will ever make it to Harvard. Stop lying

raumdeuter:
Do you know how to Read and RIGHT? every Every post you make [write, post,create,type] is filed filled with elementary errors? .

raumdeuter:
Do you know how to Read and RIGHT? every Every post you make [write, post,create,type] is filed filled with elementary errors? .

Xavier5:
[s]Some questions are funny, hence I don't bother giving replies to them.

You're asking me how Biden has underperformed. Bro, if the reality of Americans regarding the issues like the economy and border security is not enough to convince you that Biden has underperformed, then what is there to say.

Biden isn't underperforming, and yet Kamala is runing on a "fix the economy" campaign.

Biden isn't underperforming, and Kamala was to help the middle class out of economic hardship. What happened to Bidenomics?

Biden isn't underperforming, yet people including
lots of independentss are willing to vote for a convicted felon because they fared better economically during his reign.

If these realities are not enough to convince you that Biden is underperforming, then what will I say, when you will still be hell bent on defending you Biden the over competent fellow.
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Xavier5:
Okay sir. Let me go and educate myself on what the liberal philosophy is 😎👊🙌

#Xavier

raumdeuter:
Do you know how to Read and RIGHT? every Every post you make [write, post,create,type] is filed filled with elementary errors? .

raumdeuter:
BEAR like this?
https://files.worldwildlife.org/wwfcmsprod/images/Brown_Bear_/hero_full/9kavvtzv2t_brownbear_hero.jpg

Xavier5:
As usual, try and justify Kamala's lack of policy discuss, and heap all the blame on Trump. I believe I've made my points clear, debates are meant to address policies by candidates. So when asked a question, candidates should answer and address that question, and not spend vast majority of the time beating about the bush, throwing lies like grenades, rambling off-point, and blaming the other for their own failures. That isn't what Americans want, otherwise, why bother debating at all?



I was expecting you to say this, and I was not disappointed. So I'm not a liberal because unlike you I chose to not ass lick the Democratic party. Just wow 😂, but anyways, who am I to argue 🤣.

Bro, some of us focus on quality of individuals or candidacy, and not party okay. And whether you like it or not, Ronald Reagan was an amazing president, same as Obama.

Were these two perfect? No

Did they perform well? Yes

Did they perform absolutely well? No.

Did they make bad decisions and judgements as president, that faced criticisms? Yes.

Do I agree with all their views and policies? No.

As I said, I do candidates or individuals and not party. An as I also said, no law says that one has to support all the views of his or her preferred candidates, in other words, I don't support all their views and policies.

As for Vivek, reading this makes me laugh 😂. Vivek is not smart? Okay, if you say so 🙌. But the evidence that abounds in the media says otherwise.



But your brain cells did not die listening to Biden whom you've dedicated all your time and energy on this thread defending. Good to know 🤣.



So in your view, Biden performed well, but yet, Americans are unhappy with the issues of the economy, border security, energy, global wars under the Biden-Harris adminstration.

Biden performed well, and yet Kamala wants to fix the economy, not improve it, but fix it.

Biden performed well, and yet Kamala wants to help the middle class (who where of course faring better under Trump).

Statements like this makes me laugh, but that's what you get when someone has sworn to defend the "competency" of Biden despite the fact that the reality of Americans are the opposite, and when you call that out they claim you're not a liberal, I guess I'm not 🤷.

You're looking for how Biden underperformed? The reality of Americans serves as an evidence to that, likewise the "fix the economy" campaign Kamala is running on.


#Xavier

raumdeuter:
Here comes the arbiter of who is liberal and who is not

Xavier5:
I'm a liberal, and my liberalism demands I call out bullshit as it is, irrespective of who the subject is, and that's what I did. I don't ass lick anybody. None of them pay my bills.

same way I'm a fan of Ronald Reagan, Ron DeSantes, and Vivek Ramaswamy (who are Republicans). I don't do parties, I do individuals.

#Xavier

Xavier5:
I'm a liberal, and my liberalism demands I call out bullshit as it is, irrespective of who the subject is, and that's what I did. I don't ass lick anybody. None of them pay my bills.

Note, this is not about Dems vs GOP, this is about Trump and Kamala, and their performance at the debate. Let's not shift ground here.

The debate was an embarrassment, it is what you would expect in a third country's presidential debate. Neither Trump and Harris were answering questions asked them about policies (although Kamala tried very little here compared to Trump. I say it as it is), rather all they did was spend vast majority of the time, beating about the bush, throw lies, rant off-point (Trump), and blame the other for their failures (Kamala).

You attempt to justify the above with the concept of Trump behaviors making policy discuss impossible, but need I remind you that Kamala was asked questions multiple times... questions which she dodged answering. Need I remind you that she had opportunities to address the elephant in the room, which was the incompetence and underperformance of the Biden-Harris adminstration, and tell how and why she can and will be better, but she didn't. Was it Trump that was in charge of her brain and mouth controller?

Look, I don't engage in unobjective task of defending any candidate or party simply because I'm a liberal. I call it as it is. The debate was trash... nothing short of comedy. I'm a fan of Obama, Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosy (who are Democrats), same way I'm a fan of Ronald Reagan, Ron DeSantes, and Vivek Ramaswamy (who are Republicans). I don't do parties, I do individuals.

Xavier5:
Defending or trying to justify the underperformance of the Biden-Harris adminstration is unobjective. Defending the unpleasant performance of any of the candidates is unobjective. And that's something I, Xavier, will never be a party to. My liberalism says no. Gone were the day where you would listen to a presidential debate and be thrilled, but today you either get angry or you get wildly amused.

bemeruca:
Its their culture. I believe they are eating animals illegally in Ohio

basilico:
Haitian woman posts video about Haiti voodoo and about eating cats and dogs.
Elon Musk reposted this.

Blah Blah Blah

Konkoja:
It's interesting and sad at the same time. What would these mob do when Trump is defeated in November?