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bemeruca:
Your logic. US gives weapon so anything it says is right. Logic you can only acquire from a Latin school in Boston.

Tell me how to get rid if hamas or shut up. The us you mentioned did not provide a solution. Answer the questions as you know better.

Free or no free. Your arguments will be laughed at by a braindead

The evolution of an idiot's(benalcino) argument:

bemeruca:
All who says Israel is doing it wrong should go and fight hamas.
Question for you. How should Israel fight hamas? Tell me how you will minimize collateral damage. I will wait

IjeBos points out: The US gives Israel the weapons it's using to fight Hamas, has navy battleships in the Middle East to protect Israel and has some soldiers fighting.
And the US has told Israel what they should do as well as the past President Obama, stop killing Palestinians.

Benelavino deflects

bemeruca:
Israel also gives US weapons and technology. <deflect deflect deflect>

IjeBos points out. Wrong, the US gives Israel weapons for free. The US gives Israel tons of Aid. Get a primer on the US - Israeli relationship

Benvalino deflects further after trying to cover for the fact he has no idea what he is talking about, contradicting his first post.

bemeruca:
Your logic. US gives weapon so anything it says is right. Logic you can only acquire from a Latin school in Boston.

So, those who are basically bankrolling the conflict, allowing troops to fight in the conflict, has their soldiers in harm's way providing cover for the conflict and is also providing political cover for the conflict should now shut up as well? Lol..

You seem to forget who is the dog and who is the tail here. Israel doesn't survive without the US. And so when the US says something, Israel should listen. That's how power works.

bemeruca:
Israel also gives US weapons and technology.

Lol.. As I said, like an 11 year old.
You keep typing and the stupid keeps coming out of your mouth.
The US gives(for free) weapons to the Israeli government.
Start with a primer on the US aid to Israel and stop embarrassing yourself. You continuously speak on ish you have 0 idea about.

https://www.axios.com/2023/11/04/us-israel-aid-military-funding-chart

bemeruca:
All who says Israel is doing it wrong should go and fight hamas.

The US, who is the one giving Israel weapons is saying Israel is doing it wrong. You understand that right?
I keep telling you, you sound and act like a 11 year old. You're too stupid and too intellectually dishonest to even begin to have a real conversation about this. So you can wait for it.
If you want to understand more than you do now, go read what Obama has written on it, or what even Blinken is trying to communicate to Israel to do right now or what Austin Lloyd just said.
You've stewed in your conservative bubble for so long you can't see anything outside that, Palestinian Genocide. Lovely Christian you are eh?

bemeruca:
They are now a collateral damage.

The Palestinian People are now collateral damage? Well said. Expresses the trash bin of a person I know you to be.
Here's a clue, when the US, Israel's biggest backer along the with the majority f the world says Israel is doing the wrong thing.. they are. And not all those people are "Jew Haters", the only argument your feeble mind can construct outside of Genocide of the Palestinian people.

basilico:
I'd only comment if I knew what he thinks in private. Public pronouncements don't always correspond to what one thinks.And his opinion does not mean it's the correct thing anyway.

Listen, you idiot. The Secretary of Defense of the US spoke publicly about this. He didn't just wake up and decide he was going to criticize how Israel was handling the war and killing of Palestinians; this was designed. He is a top representative of the US gov't speaking about his private conversations with Israel. This is a public admonishment of Israel by the US.

The US is clearly worried about the blowback from Israel's heavy handed tactics and the coming repercussions. What I was speaking about since the war started.

This statement by the Secretary of Defense means that American leadership is very worried about blowback because of Israel's casual disregard for Palestinian lives.
Benalvino/Bemeruca and Basilico, I guess this would make Lloyd Austin a Jew Hater too right? You should really stop outsourcing what minds you do have to Christian Fundamentalists.

Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin said Israel risks a “strategic defeat” if it does not work to protect Palestinian civilians in Gaza amid its war on militant group Hamas in the region.

“The center of gravity is the civilian population and if you drive them into the arms of the enemy, you replace a tactical victory with a strategic defeat,” Austin said in a speech at the Reagan National Defense Forum in Simi Valley, Calif., on Saturday.

The secretary added that he has personally pushed Israeli leaders to avoid civilian casualties, prevent violence to settlers in the West Bank.

“We will continue to press Israel to protect civilians and to ensure the robust flow of humanitarian aid ,” he added.

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/4339335-lloyd-austin-israel-risks-defeat-if-civilians-not-protected/

basilico:
Another failure by you to protect the entrapment by FBI of domestic terrorists. .2 be honest most terror attackers in America were known to FBI.
In one case an FBI agent drove behind some terrorists until they reached the premises where they were to kill. The FBI guy drove away. Fortunately an off duty cop took down both terrorists using a hand gun.
Boston marathon terrorists.Tsarnaevs. FBI had been warned by Russia about the two brothers.They never kept a close eye on them.

So yes in some cases it does appear that they want attacks to happen And in others they foil them to show they are working.

Like Michigan governor kidnap case. They were part of the logistics and masterminds of the plot to kidnap her. They drove the hapless would be terrorists to their ambush.

In another case they provided a dumb bomb to a terrorist to go blow up New York Times square.

To simplify it for you, the feds appear to have picked a person likely to be swayed entrapped him and then arrested him.

Should rename this thread "The American, European and whatever crap is on Basilico's mind today; Basilico's Nuttery and Conspiracy thread."

Every accusation seems to be a confesion with the GOP.

Where to even begin? The investigative journalism outlet Florida Center for Government Accountability has a story today alleging that Christian Ziegler, the chair of the Florida GOP, sexually assaulted a woman. This would be enough to attract attention, but this woman was allegedly having a ménage à trois with him and his wife Bridget, the erstwhile crusading chair of the Sarasota school board and a co-founder of the parents’ rights group Moms for Liberty.

The accusations in the story—which Mother Jones could not independently verify—are wild, to say the least:

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2023/11/a-florida-gop-leader-a-moms-for-liberty-founder-and-allegations-of-group-sex-and-rape/

Appeals court reinstates Trump gag order.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/30/politics/new-york-appeals-court-reinstates-gag-order-against-donald-trump-in-civil-fraud-trial/index.html

bemeruca:
It has always been terrorism Gayboy. Remember, you boys hamas slaughtered 1300 innocent children. 85% of Palestinians support and danced

Seems like you need to spend more time on "Hooked on Phonics" and less in this forum.

budaatum:
Nothing special about it.

Every one at the address they are registered at for rates plus anyone who lives in their household is sent a voters registration form on which they can indicate that they wish to vote by post and would be let.

I opened up this thread and thought I had skipped back a few pages. How in 2023, after all the Republican led recounts found nothing is a dude who has never left Nigeria, still talking about fraud in the US and voting systems and mailing systems in the UK and US? What nuttery.

I guess by Benvalino and Basilico's (I'll call them Beavis and Butthead from now on) standard the Pope is a Jew-Hater as well.

https://www.politico.eu/article/israel-hamas-conflict-terrorism-pope-francis-middle-east/

From the NYTimes
Gift Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/25/world/middleeast/israel-gaza-death-toll.html?unlocked_article_code=1.CE0.7v4N.uJwKI773-bDR&smid=url-share

People are being killed in Gaza more quickly, they say, than in even the deadliest moments of U.S.-led attacks in Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan, which were themselves widely criticized by human rights groups.

Precise comparisons of war dead are impossible, but conflict-casualty experts have been taken aback at just how many people have been reported killed in Gaza — most of them women and children — and how rapidly.

It is not just the scale of the strikes — Israel said it had engaged more than 15,000 targets before reaching a brief cease-fire in recent days. It is also the nature of the weaponry itself.

Israel’s liberal use of very large weapons in dense urban areas, including U.S.-made 2,000-pound bombs that can flatten an apartment tower, is surprising, some experts say.

“It’s beyond anything that I’ve seen in my career,” said Marc Garlasco, a military adviser for the Dutch organization PAX and a former senior intelligence analyst at the Pentagon. To find a historical comparison for so many large bombs in such a small area, he said, we may “have to go back to Vietnam, or the Second World War.”

bemeruca:
Dude shut up, from your very first post here, you have been saying research does not matter. You haven't been in the US, you are not in the US so you cannot know or you don't have the right to talk about US politics. That is you and your mentality since you discovered this thread.

Quote me where/when I said research doesn't matter.
You can do all the research you want, but will always be limited. The more research, the closer you get, but still be always limited until you live/experience it. The reason why people who study French Literature spend semesters in France etc. etc. But, rational people understand that. You and basilico don't seem to . You chime in on America's voting systems, but where you live you vote and put your ballots in tupperware containers, while people easily steal them and drive away. What reference can you even have to understand how secure America's systems are?

You speak in this thread as if you have some mastered expertise on all things the United States, while you can't even seem to master the English language.

Again, I ask you What is your reason for spending hours and hours and hours and hours on this thread?

bemeruca:
You research but basilico did not research. He has not paid tax, never voted so even with research he cannot know. You are a stupid

Nothing you know about Palestine. Zero.

Have you asked yourself why Jordan killed Palestinian refugees and PLO? They tried to take over Jordan do you know. After Jordan is paying heavy for joining a fight against Israel on their behalf.

They did same in Lebanon. Ask yourself why Jordan and Egypt won't take them

He doesn't know and neither do you. That's why both of you are ALWAYS, consistently WRONG.

But you seem to have dodged the question again. I had a reason for my research and a reason for spending hours and hours researching Israel and Palestine and why MY country gives so much of OUR money to Israel and acts as it's chief backer and whether that was beneficial to the US. What is your reason for spending hours and hours and hours and hours on this thread talking about TRUMP and US taxes and the US voting systems? Why do you seemingly care more about a country you aren't a citizen and aren't a resident of than the one you are?

And your constant inability to conjugate verbs is grating. You sound like an illiterate. Honestly, was English your first language? Don't think I've seen someone write as persistently poorly as you. The sentences you write aren't that complex that you should be making the basic mistakes you do.

bemeruca:
Oh just shut up.

You have never been to the Middle East yet you are an expert in the crisis over there. You can navigate the complexity of the crisis.

Shut up and behave like a person for once. No one except you makes statements like this.

I think you make my point. Years ago, after 9/11, I dedicated tons of time researching Israel/Palestine. I mean tons of time. Read books and more books, watched documentaries, discussed with Arabs and Israeli's I knew to understand prevailing perceptions. Largely because I felt Israel and the US were intertwined because of the support the US gave Israel and I wanted to understand what my tax dollars supported and US policy.

So, the question is why do you and Basilico spend hours upon hours upon hours only in this thread talking about the US?

basilico:
I can list many links from.politicians and experts opining on how voter ID harms the marginalized
On image below is the American Bar Association take, which is not a ragtag bunch of lawyers.
Seems like marginalized communities esp bleks have a problem obtaining an ID which is a requirement to buy alcohol. Or some form of ID for SSN, bank account holding or a driving licence. Please.
Next?

After this you might want to agree that the voter ID is a danger to democrats because they want illegal aliens to vote.
cc Timiofak ( You are a nice guy that can convert to MAGA) 😀😀😀.

You've never voted in the US, yet you are an expert on US voting.
You've never filed US taxes, yet are an expert on filing US taxes.
You've never had a US bank account, driver's license, or SSN, yet are an expert on the necessities of US bank accounts, driver's licenses and SSNs.
I'm a Nigerian citizen and sufficiently understanding the Nigerian regulatory system to get the stuff I have to do is stressful enough, I can't imagine dedicating the copious amounts of time you do researching a country you aren't a resident of and have no business with just to write the amount of nonsense you do and continuously be wrong about it.
Go rest.

bemeruca:
They left for their safety. No one is saying Hezbollah forced them out. You are so dumb.

As I said we've long reached the point of the argument that you've lost whatever point you were trying to make and are now rambling incoherently.

Your new argument is that if you leave your home because someone is raining bombs down on your house, threatening to commit the same massacres on you that they committed in another town and spreading whispering campaigns that they have nuclear weapons they will use, you left because of your safety and not because you were forced out? And the distinction somehow matters? Holy Fuxing Stupid. You've delinitiated the word to a point to try to absolve Israel of what happened. As all great intellectually dishonest people do.

But then ask yourself, so what. Does the fact that they left because of their safety, to return when they were safe and not because Israel "forced them out" absolve Israel from taking their homes and land? Of course not.

You are as dumb as a rock, an intellectually lazy person and intellectually dishonest to boot. I would say I hope you don't procreate. But you have. Good thing that you're to stupid to eek out a living that your Baby Momma raises them.

bemeruca:
They are going to war with Israel. They fled because if war.

Israeli citizens fled their northern region cause of war with Hezbollah common sense. The thing is they start the war

God, your'e so fuxing stupid. You write gibberish and call it a coherent logical point.
Your argument is that any refugee who flees their homes, who are not combatants, automatically lose their homes and land. So all the people in Northern Gaza who fled because Israel were dropping bombs, have now lost their homes. And when they start dropping bombs in the south and those people flee, those people would lose their homes as well? That seems like the exact point Palestinians were making about Israel's true intention to kick all Palestinians off the land.

Kevin Mcconnell got in trouble this week for saying that the US never asked for land when they fought wars. He was wrong, but he wanted to make a point, that the US fought wars for security not to take land. In the last few US wars, the US was sure to make sure they didn't take land, oil or anything because there is a moral element to it and a perception they want to avoid.

Your argument is precisely why Israel has lost the standing it has despite the level of propaganda it puts out. You seem to be too stupid to understand the ramifications of the shit you say.

Go back and watch some more Christian Fundamentalist/Israeli propaganda videos.

bemeruca:
A 1970 study by the Beirut Institute for Palestinian studies concluded that “68% of the Arabs in Palestine left their homes without ever hearing a shot fired or seeing a single Jewish soldier”. In Israels Declaration they specificallt make an appeal "WE APPEAL - in the very midst of the onslaught launched against us now for months - to the Arab inhabitants of the State of Israel to preserve peace and participate in the upbuilding of the State on the basis of full and equal citizenship and due representation in all its provisional and permanent institutions." even the British made note: "Every effort is being made by the Jews to persuade the Arab populace to stay and carry on with their normal lives, to get their shops and businesses open and to be assured that their lives and interests will be safe. [However] ...A large road convoy, escorted by [British] military . . . left Haifa for Beirut yesterday. . . . Evacuation by sea goes on steadily. ...[Two days later, the Jews were] still making every effort to persuade the Arab populace to remain and to settle back into their normal lives in the towns." Finally I will leave you with the following.... “I do not want to impugn anybody but only to help the refugees. The fact that there are these refugees is the direct consequence of the Arab States in opposing partition and the Jewish State. The Arab States agreed upon this policy unanimously, and they must share in the solution of the problem.” Emil Ghoury, Secretary of the Arab Higher Committee, the official leader of the Palestinian Arabs, in a Beirut newspaper, also reported in the Daily Telegraph on September 6, 1948.

“...The occupation of Palestine and of Tel Aviv would be as simple as a military promenade… the millions the Jews had spent on land and economic development would be easy booty, for it would be a simple matter to throw Jews into the Mediterranean... advice was given to the Arabs of Palestine to leave their land, homes, and property and to stay temporarily in neighboring fraternal states, lest the guns of the invading Arab armies mow them down…”
(General Secretary of the Arab League, Azzam Pasha as related by chief spokesman for the Arab League, Habib Issa -- (Al Hoda, June 8, 1951 - A NY Lebanese daily newspaper).

“The Arab governments told us: Get out so that we can get in. So we got out, but they did not get in.” (Jordan Daily Newspaper, Ad Dijaa, September 6, 1954).

“The Arab civilians panicked and fled ignominiously. Villages were frequently abandoned before they were threatened by the progress of war.” General Glubb Pasha (the British officer who helped build the Transjordanian Army) wrote this in the London Daily Mail (August 12, 1948).

“The Arab Exodus …was not caused by the actual battle, but by the exaggerated description spread by the Arab leaders to incite them to fight the Jews. …For the flight and fall of the other villages it is our leaders who are responsible because of their dissemination of rumors exaggerating Jewish crimes and describing them as atrocities in order to inflame the Arabs ... By spreading rumors of Jewish atrocities, killings of women and children etc., they instilled fear and terror in the hearts of the Arabs in Palestine, until they fled leaving their homes and properties to the enemy.” – The Jordanian daily newspaper Al Urdun, April 9, 1953.

“The wholesale exodus was due partly to the belief of the Arabs, encouraged by the boasting of an unrealistic press and the irresponsible utterances of some of the Arab leaders that it could be only a matter of some weeks before the Jews were defeated by the armies of the Arab states, and the Palestinian Arabs enabled to re-enter and re- take possession of the country.” – Edward Atiyah (Secretary of the Arab League, London, The Arabs, 1955, p. 183)


For the Jew hater Ijebos

Palestinians fled because they were scared for their lives, because of rumors they heard that they were going to be killed, based on what had happened in previous massacres. Some of these rumors were purposefully spread by Israelis to Palestinian leaders to get them to leave. It was a whisper campaign designed to get Palestinians to leave so Israel could take and consolidate their land. Some of these whispers were that Israel had a nuclear weapon they would use. These plans were unearthed by Historians in writings, one I quote by an Israeli general at the time.
Here are his exact words.

We, therefore, looked for a means that would not oblige us to use force to DRIVE OUT tens of thousands of hostile [Palestinian] Arabs left in the Galilee and who, in the event of an invasion, could strike at us from behind. We tried to utilize a stratagem that exploited the [Arabs] defeat in Safad and in area cleared by [Operation] Broom - a stratagem that WORKED WONDERFULLY.
I gathered the Jewish mukhtars [Kibbutz chiefs], who had ties with the different [local Palestinian] Arab villages , and I asked them to WHISPER in the ears of several [Palestinian] Arabs that a giant Jewish reinforcement had reached the Galilee and were about to CLEAN OUT the villages of Hula, [and] to advise them as friends, to FLEE while they could. And rumour spread throughout Hula that the time had come to flee. The flight encompassed tens of thousands. The stratagem FULLY achieved its objective . . . and we were able to deploy ourselves in face of the [prospective] invaders along the borders, with out fear for our rear." (Benny Morris, p. 122)

As I said, thinking is not your strong point. I'm not even sure what point you are trying to make. You are saying, Palestinians who were scared for their lives, fled in hopes of returning when the fighting was over, so it was ok for Israel to take homes and their land? As if the fact they fled for safety absolves Israel from stealing their land. As if they had stayed Israel wouldn't have fought them and took their land anyways. That's the kind of logic only an uncritical brain doped with Christian Fundamentalism can make.

bemeruca:
A 1970 study by the Beirut Institute for Palestinian studies concluded that “68% of the Arabs in Palestine left their homes without ever hearing a shot fired or seeing a single Jewish soldier”. In Israels Declaration they specificallt make an appeal "WE APPEAL - in the very midst of the onslaught launched against us now for months - to the Arab inhabitants of the State of Israel to preserve peace and participate in the upbuilding of the State on the basis of full and equal citizenship and due representation in all its provisional and permanent institutions." even the British made note: "Every effort is being made by the Jews to persuade the Arab populace to stay and carry on with their normal lives, to get their shops and businesses open and to be assured that their lives and interests will be safe. [However] ...A large road convoy, escorted by [British] military . . . left Haifa for Beirut yesterday. . . . Evacuation by sea goes on steadily. ...[Two days later, the Jews were] still making every effort to persuade the Arab populace to remain and to settle back into their normal lives in the towns." Finally I will leave you with the following.... “I do not want to impugn anybody but only to help the refugees. The fact that there are these refugees is the direct consequence of the Arab States in opposing partition and the Jewish State. The Arab States agreed upon this policy unanimously, and they must share in the solution of the problem.” Emil Ghoury, Secretary of the Arab Higher Committee, the official leader of the Palestinian Arabs, in a Beirut newspaper, also reported in the Daily Telegraph on September 6, 1948.

“...The occupation of Palestine and of Tel Aviv would be as simple as a military promenade… the millions the Jews had spent on land and economic development would be easy booty, for it would be a simple matter to throw Jews into the Mediterranean... advice was given to the Arabs of Palestine to leave their land, homes, and property and to stay temporarily in neighboring fraternal states, lest the guns of the invading Arab armies mow them down…”
(General Secretary of the Arab League, Azzam Pasha as related by chief spokesman for the Arab League, Habib Issa -- (Al Hoda, June 8, 1951 - A NY Lebanese daily newspaper).

“The Arab governments told us: Get out so that we can get in. So we got out, but they did not get in.” (Jordan Daily Newspaper, Ad Dijaa, September 6, 1954).

“The Arab civilians panicked and fled ignominiously. Villages were frequently abandoned before they were threatened by the progress of war.” General Glubb Pasha (the British officer who helped build the Transjordanian Army) wrote this in the London Daily Mail (August 12, 1948).

“The Arab Exodus …was not caused by the actual battle, but by the exaggerated description spread by the Arab leaders to incite them to fight the Jews. …For the flight and fall of the other villages it is our leaders who are responsible because of their dissemination of rumors exaggerating Jewish crimes and describing them as atrocities in order to inflame the Arabs ... By spreading rumors of Jewish atrocities, killings of women and children etc., they instilled fear and terror in the hearts of the Arabs in Palestine, until they fled leaving their homes and properties to the enemy.” – The Jordanian daily newspaper Al Urdun, April 9, 1953.

“The wholesale exodus was due partly to the belief of the Arabs, encouraged by the boasting of an unrealistic press and the irresponsible utterances of some of the Arab leaders that it could be only a matter of some weeks before the Jews were defeated by the armies of the Arab states, and the Palestinian Arabs enabled to re-enter and re- take possession of the country.” – Edward Atiyah (Secretary of the Arab League, London, The Arabs, 1955, p. 183)


For the Jew hater Ijebos

Palestinians fled because they were scared for their lives, because of rumors they heard that they were going to be killed, based on what had happened in previous massacres. Some of these rumors were purposefully spread by Israelis to Palestinian leaders to get them to leave. It was a whisper campaign designed to get Palestinians to leave so Israel could take and consolidate their land. Some of these whispers were that Israel had a nuclear weapon they would use. These plans were unearthed by Historians in writings, one I quote by an Israeli general at the time.

As I said, thinking is not your strong point. I'm not even sure what point you are trying to make. You are saying, Palestinians who were scared for their lives fled in hopes of returning when the fighting was over, so it was ok for Israel to take homes and their land? As if the fact they fled for safety absolves Israel from stealing their land. As if they had stayed Israel wouldn't have fought them and took their land anyways. That's the kind of logic an uncritical brain doped with Christian Fundamentalism can make.

bemeruca:
From your own Wiki, you left this out.


which the Youtube video you called BS proved and you see people who was alive at the time giving their account of what happened.
you are a serious bone head

You got fooled by a quote taken out of context in a propaganda video and then tried to move the goalposts. So here we are at the inevitable point where you know you are wrong, backtrack and start to dissemble.
You have made my point. The strategy of Israel was to spread that fear so that Palestinians would leave and they could take their homes and land.

From further on in the wiki.

Childers, while dismissing the fact that Arab leaders instigated the flight on radio broadcasts, points out that Zionist radio broadcasts were designed to demoralize the Arab audience.[121] The author cites the fact that rumours were spread by the Israeli forces that they possessed the atomic bomb.[122] Similarly, Khalidi points to what he describes as the Zionist "psychological offensive" which was highlighted by, though not limited to, radio messages warning the Arabs of diseases, the ineffectiveness of armed resistance and the incompetence of their leaders.[123]

Here is one of the commanders Yigal Allon talking about the tactic.

We, therefore, looked for a means that would not oblige us to use force to DRIVE OUT tens of thousands of hostile [Palestinian] Arabs left in the Galilee and who, in the event of an invasion, could strike at us from behind. We tried to utilize a stratagem that exploited the [Arabs] defeat in Safad and in area cleared by [Operation] Broom - a stratagem that WORKED WONDERFULLY.
I gathered the Jewish mukhtars [Kibbutz chiefs], who had ties with the different [local Palestinian] Arab villages, and I asked them to WHISPER in the ears of several [Palestinian] Arabs that a giant Jewish reinforcement had reached the Galilee and were about to CLEAN OUT the villages of Hula, [and] to advise them as friends, to FLEE while they could. And rumour spread throughout Hula that the time had come to flee. The flight encompassed tens of thousands. The stratagem FULLY achieved its objective . . . and we were able to deploy ourselves in face of the [prospective] invaders along the borders, with out fear for our rear." (Benny Morris, p. 122)

Go pick up a good book with good sourcing about the Middle East and read it. Then pick up another one and read that. And be aware that you are really too stupid to understand how little you really know. So, just keep reading.

bemeruca:
mumu, Waste of tax payer's money sending you to that Latin School in Boston. The video you just watch has a souce. the Source is not the person that uploaded it. Fools like you is why the US has to pull me from Naija to help Develop this dying nation.

1948 Khaled al-Azm on Palestinian Refugees
Khaled al-AzmKhaled al-Azm, the Prime Minister of Syria in 1948-49:

“SINCE 1948 WE HAVE BEEN DEMANDING THE RETURN OF THE REFUGEES TO THEIR HOMES. BUT WE OURSELVES ARE THE ONES WHO ENCOURAGED THEM TO LEAVE. ONLY A FEW MONTHS SEPARATED OUR CALL TO THEM TO LEAVE AND OUR APPEAL TO THE UNITED NATIONS TO RESOLVE ON THEIR RETURN.”

If you really watch the video you would have seen sources but you are a Dumb fvck.

This is the problem with propaganda and esp. when a fool like you watches that propaganda.

This a larger part of the quote:

Fifth: the Arab governments' invitation to the people of Palestine to flee from it and seek refuge in adjacent Arab countries, after terror had spread among their ranks in the wake of the Deir Yassin event. This mass flight has benefited the Jews and the situation stabilized in their favor without effort.... Since 1948 we have been demanding the return of the refugees to their homeland, while it is we who constrained them to leave it. Between the invitation extended to the refugees and the request to the United Nations to decide upon their return, there elapsed only a few months.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_the_1948_Palestinian_expulsion_and_flight

As you can see the Palestians were asked to flee after the Deir Yassin event or massacre. So the fled because they were scared they would get killed just as people did in Deir Yassin.

The Deir Yassin massacre took place on April 9, 1948, when around 130[1] fighters from the Zionist paramilitary groups Irgun and Lehi killed at least 107 Palestinian Arab villagers, including women and children, in Deir Yassin, a village of roughly 600 people near Jerusalem, despite having earlier agreed to a peace pact. The massacre occurred while Jewish militia sought to relieve the blockade of Jerusalem during the civil war that preceded the end of British rule in Palestine.[4]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deir_Yassin_massacre

Intelligent people generally read well sourced information. And if they do watch videos, they scrutinize it by trying to review as much of the may-be debatable info as possible. You're an idiot, so you dive head first and get fooled as usual and then spread that propaganda.

Garbage in ... Garbage out

bemeruca:
I should post the one with hamas 😂 unlike you, I don't trust terrorists

It seems you enjoy being slapped down. Why don't you post a youtube video by Netanyahu's son to prove your point on the Nakba.

bemeruca:
Yeah right.
Propaganda you say
it bites you. it will continue to bite you.
Wear your Hamas while you come to terms with reality.

This guy posted a video by someone with the link facebook.com/Isreal.NY. Below is the facebook page it links to. Then he says it's not propoganda.
What's worse is that he posts 2 youtube videos with unknown sources as proof of something. You are really a simpleton.
I can't imagine that you have ever read a book. That is probably why you can't conjugate verbs. You're an ignorant mess.

bemeruca:
Opinion crap...
hahaha Brainwashed Emu.
Your lies debunked

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U31FyxfMWOE

Another great post today. You're on a roll.
Out of curiosity, didn't watch it, but I thought I bet it's some random video, probably a propaganda film put out by some Israeli affiliate.
And as I learned a time ago in that Boston Latin School, is that the sourcing of anything is equally important as what it says. As it gives you context into the perceived biases of what you are reading/listen to.
And tada.. the picture is the author of the video.
The difference between you and I. I quoted a piece written in the Israeli newspaper of note. You posted a propaganda piece by some random person on Youtube. You see why I am soo much more smarter than you.
As I said, you spend your days watching videos by Israeli propaganda and Christian Fundamentals (both with goals that align) and uncritically propagating their indoctrination. You should change your name to "Garbage in - Garbage Out"

bemeruca:
Gay boy ijebos. Tell us what you understand by nakba?

The arabs in the land left because they believe when their people attack Israel they will be victorious. The left for the fight to take place as Egypt and other arab nations join hand to destroy Israel. They lost the war. Israel gained more land. That's war for you. It's about grabbing land. It's one of the characteristics of war.

If you care for the truth you will find this. They left so their arab brothers can drive the Jews to the sea.

Look at this post. Sounds like someone who got his formal education by watching youtube clips by Christian fundamentals.

bemeruca:
"That's war for you. It's about grabbing land."

It's like repeating statements from bubble gum wrappers and calling them insightful. I'm dumber for reading your posts. I got things that are much more insightful to do, like talking to my 3 year old niece. Enjoy being the smartest person in a 4th grade class.

And this was a good piece from that Palestinian rag Haaretz <sarcasm> that talks about the Nakba. Not the version that Israel wants propagated and idiots like benalvino and Christian fundamentals like to lap up.
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2021-05-01/ty-article-opinion/jewish-israelis-should-stop-being-afraid-of-the-nakba/0000017f-f141-da6f-a77f-f94f183d0000

bemeruca:
Obama is not an historian. I mean, that obozo went to Kenya to sell homosexuality. He is your kind of guy, the beta male. The gay guy that wont get out of the closet.

I see you and Obama in the future shouting gays for Palestine.

Because Obama says it he must be right. 🤣
So who are the Palestinians? How did they get that land, from whom they got it. Who was the president of Palestine?

You talk about displacement, do you know why? Because they started a war to take the whole of Israel by killing the jews. They lost and till today, they still want to kill the jews. From the river to the sea you know.

Jew hating homo... That you are will spew BS. You said you know and it's too complex but what did you do? Bring stuff that did not even address anything from Obama who is a war criminal

Obama - Harvard Law School Grad., President of the United States., Author, Historian, Humanitarian vs. Benalvino.... um.... thinks "proteins and eba" is a luxury meal and can't conjugate simple verbs.
That's a really tough choice. <sarcasm>

God, this post of yours. I can't imagine going through life with that muddled mess of a brain of yours. From Obama to Kenya to Gays to war criminals to a flawed understanding of the Nakba and Israel's role in Palestinians fleeing. Wow. It's like asking a ADHD 2nd grader to write a paper on the Middle East.

bemeruca:
Lmao
Mumu says the Palestinian issue is to complex. Mumu who is not smart enough to lie.

What do you know? I say nothing.

Your jew hating urge is at it again

The bold shows you are clueless on this matter.

Excellent post! Great example why I call you a child. Adults can see/understand the complexity in things. Children not so much. The problem with your type? You don't even know when you are out of your depth.

Here is Obama, you know the ex-President of the US on the "complexity" of this situation.

But keep on shutting your ears and eyes and yelling "jew-hater" like the infant that you are. As I said, you're too stupid to even understand how stupid you are.

bemeruca:
The only illiterates here are you and budaatum. You support Hamas and Palestine but have no clue what their motives are. The very first day Israel Got their nation, these Palestinians and other arab countries were out for blood. To wipe out Israel.

This isn't kindergarten. Read your posts. Do they sound literate to you? You seem to still have trouble conjugating basic verbs.
The Palestinian issue is too complex for your feeble mind to handle. Look at what you wrote: "The very first day Israel Got their nation." Was it like getting a new car? Who was on that land before Israel got "their nation"? What happened to those people? Who gave them that "nation"? And why should anyone respect some random third party deciding their fate?
Don't bother answering as I don't rate you or anything you say.
You honestly sound like a child when you open your mouth, you're as deep as a puddle and somehow think what what you write is profound.
Education is a great separator. Get some.

bemeruca:
too Dumb to understand. lol Your Latin school is just a waste of space, oxygen, and taxpayer's money.

Your posts (like the one below) always sound like a drunk person having a stroke. Never understand what you are rambling on about. How do you even make a living? You're illiterate adjacent.

bemeruca:
Crazy. Ego has a part on Putin's side.
Let them sign an agreement and end the war. No Nato expansion.

As for Palestine and Hamas, Israel needs to die, after that the two great satan which is United states and Russia. They are fighting a religious war.