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basilico:
Exactly.
The idea of racial or tribal quotas casta doubts on the ones who earned their positions on merit.
Simple question.If someone decided that NBA must have whites ,it will definitely lower standards.

Da fuq.

There are about ~160,000 airline pilots in the US.
There are about 50 million black people in the US.

If half the pilots are black. That would be around 80,000 black airline pilots (which there are not).
80,000 black airline pilots would represent .16% of all the black people in the US.

Not even 1%
Not even .5%
Nor even .25%
But .16%

Your argument seems to be that there are not .16% of black people in the US who could be qualified to be a pilot.

The absolute nonsensical racism in your post.
And worse is that you are a black person writing this tripe.
I can't with you.

ono:
What about him? He's been a very fair minded guy all along. I think he voted against Trump in a couple of decisions by the Supreme Court lately. What's the problem? He's just like anyone. I like to not look at people based on their colour and stuff - but I also appreciate this is far from reality in many places.

Fair minded you say?
What you think would be wrong.
Thomas has been one of Trump's most ardent supporters on the Supreme Court.
He is on hack levels at this point.

You really do know little about the US

Btw, why haven't you proven you aren't gay yet?

raumdeuter:
All these documents, Birth certificate and Naturalization, If you cant find it, you can request for a replacement again and they will give you without stress. You can even request online

2. These are not difficulties its just to ensure the integrity of the process, Even though its a right, We need to ensure that those accessing the rights are the right people to.

How much does it cost to request a new birth certificate or naturalization certificate online?
Let me help you, in MA it's ~$50 for a birth certificate online and ~$500 for a naturalization certificate.

And then factor in the cost for a government photo id if you are using a birth certificate.
And most of these ids last 5 years. So you would have to get them replaced again every 5 years. Presidential elections are every 4 years.
And why would anyone carry around their naturalization certificate to go vote.

And this is all to fix a nonexistent voter fraud problem.

raumdeuter:
Your proof of citizenship is your birth cert which you were given at birth or your naturalization certificate which you were given at naturalization. (So which appointment do you need to get your birth cert issued at least 18yrs ago or issued to you at naturalization). Actually at naturalization ceremonies they distribute Voters registration document which you can fill right there

Yes you need an appointment to bring your proof of citizenship to licensing office. Every form of ID you have you need to take time to go get it,

Yes the job you are at, the ID that it needed to get it also took time to get it

1.) I have a N400. And know where it is because I lock it in my safe. To get my N400 I had to reach out to my mom for my birth certificate, who had to search her storage document boxes(most people aren't as organized to have them in convenient to find locations.) which took a while to get.
Again most people may not know where their birth certificate is and don't conveniently have a naturalization certificate if they were born in the US.
Years back, my boy(closest friend) hit me up when he was out of the country at his father's funeral, he asked me to go to his house(I have a spare key) and look for the birth certificate for his children.
Holy shit, took me hours (2 trips), looking through all the random documents he had in briefcases(his storage) in his office closet. I finally found them somewhere where I'm sure noone(I'm patient) would have.
When he get back I had to yell at him to get a damn file cabinet or safe.
The point, getting and finding those documents isn't as easy for most people as you would assume.

2.) Working isn't a right. Voting is.
You do understand the difference right?
You aren't supposed to put difficulties on things that are rights guaranteed by the consitution.

raumdeuter:
In the state of Texas, when you request for a ID, you bring your proof of citizenship then they will grant you an ID with a Gold star that shows you are a citizen, then mail it to your house within 1 week

Once your citizenship is verified, you can apply online for change of address, renew expired licenses without having to go to licensing office and you get it within 1-2 weeks

https://www.texas.gov/driver-services/texas-real-id/

Yes, you have to get an appointment to bring your proof of citizenship.
So you have to Get proof of Citizenship.
1.) Get your proof of citizenship
-Get an appointment to get one
-Take time off to get one (if you aren't salaried, it will cost you a day's pay)
-Pay to get a duplicate one
2.) Get an appointment to bring in your citizenship proof
3.) Take time off to get the appointment (if you aren't salaried, it will cost you a day's pay)
4.) Pay for one
4.) Wait for the new id. If it doesn't get lost in the mail.

How much time and money would it cost to do all of that?
Again, you seem to have a problem with the details of all of this.

raumdeuter:
The only thing weird with America is the Democrat left

There is hardly any activity you do without a govt issued ID,
These minorities rent or own homes? They need an ID,
These minorities have a job? They need an ID,
these minorities operate a bank account? They need an ID
These minorities check into hospitals? They need an ID
These minorities buy controlled substances like medication, liquor or cigarrete? They need an ID

Of course you seem not to understand the issue.

Last year, I had to get a license with a real id that proved that I was a US citizen (you need that or a passport to fly now, I prefer not to carry my passport on domestic flights).
It was difficult. The next appointment was 3 months away and my license was expiring in a month.
I had to figure out when appointments got cancelled and stayed up (2 am) to finally get one a week after my license expired.
And because my license was going to be expired, I didn't want to risk driving (black man) with an expired license so would have had to get an uber (which would have been ~$50-75 to another location or get super lucky and find one in the city and take a train in).
I can afford it, can everyone?

The thing is that MA license that I had been using to open bank accounts etc. etc. with this SAVE act, I couldn't have used to vote as it wasn't a real id.
So people even with government ids they use for the things you mention would have to again get a new verified id just to vote.
Those verified ids would cost money and time off work if they can't get there on a Sat, which could be substantial.

You speak in propaganda, not policy details.
And the policy details is what makes or breaks anything.

ono:
Bro, C'mon! If Nigeria - ranked as the poorest country on Earth right now, having fallen to that decrepit spot by displacing the former numero uno - India, still require IDs to vote in our elections, how is it that the "poor" in the US cannot get IDs, wherever they might be, to go to vote?

Perhaps, Ijebos will have something to write about now. He will say I am not living in the US, how will I know?

Did you see what happened in the last election in Nigeria?
Ask people how difficult it was to get voter cards. I read stories and heard tales of people of certain tribes having very difficult times getting voter ids.
You have first hand experience with it and still act like you don't.

Voting in the US is done at a precinct level by people who live in that precinct. So, when I walk in I meet someone who I see when I go running, who asks my address and then checks me in. In that voting place, there is an armed local cop outside and a couple armed local cops inside.
The organization it would take for someone to vote multiple times is unrealistic. And you would be insane to risk voting illegal if you aren't a legal citizen yet.

Now, I am for security so I have no issue with voter id, in fact would prefer it. The problem is, can it be done in a manner that doesn't disenfranchise people.
The Dems had a voting rights bill that allowed for voter ID. But they also had protections in place so people could get those IDs easily and at no cost. A cost to vote is a poll tax which is illegal in the US because of its racist history or being used to disenfranchise black voters.
Voting is a right guaranteed by the constitution and should be treated as such.

Also, strangely enough this new Republican bill would disenfranchise Republican voters more than Democratic voters. Democrats are more likely to have a Passport(travel) and be able to get to a location to get an ID. So Dems are actually fighting for Republican voters here as usual but being criticized by the same people they are fighting for.

And lastly, the difference between DeepSight and you is that he speaks in a probing way. It sounds like he studies what he is talking about, has info to back it up and still stays in his lane on matters he may not have enough experience in. His goal seems to lean and grow his knowledge base. You talk like your word is the end all and be all of a topic especially when it's clear you really don't have facts to back it up or a firm understanding of that topic. It's the same thing Basilico and Bemeruca do in this thread.
Like this post.
You are arguing about how voter id worked in Nigeria without talking about one of the biggest issues, how big of a mess and how hard it was to get the voter card. And what seems like a deliberate, purposeful strategy to prevent some people from voting to game the election.

One of Ono's Chrisitan heroes.

cococandy:
That didn't age well, but let me guess, he is now for the war? Finding ways to justify it. The best war. The master plan of all ages.

Lol.
Would love to see what he is saying now.

Illegal on its face.
Trump has no power to due this.
Expect this to get knocked down by the courts almost immediately.

The thing is that Trump and all his lawyers know this.
This is just messaging for his uneducated base.
And when it gets knocked down? They will blame the judges for following the law.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-signs-order-mail-ballots-escalating-election-overhaul-push-2026-03-31/?taid=69cc49cb061e480001087194&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

DeepSight:
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Just look at all the detail there. Not that anyone NOT living under a rock would need to be shown.
But tctrills has outdone himself today in his display of outright dishonesty.

I expect the dishonesty by now. I think for them the honesty would be painful as it conflicts with what they believe.
But, I do think the Republican appointed judge made it painfully clear as to what Trump was trying to do.

I think the judicial branch, outside the Supreme Court, and a lot of Republican appointed judges at that, is doing yeoman's work preserving what's left of our democracy

tctrills:
Oga you are the lazy one who refused to do his assignment all you did was copy and paste. That is irresponsible.
Please stop reading anti trump articles they mislead you and make you less intelligent

Black history in the US is still being taught. It's taught much more than in any other country that had black slaves even under Trump

Just for anyone reading this.
This is what a Republican Federal Judge said after Trump tried to remove a slavery exhibit.

Rufe, an appointee of Republican President George W. Bush, began her written order with a quote from George Orwell's dystopian novel "1984" and compared the Trump administration to the book's totalitarian regime called the Ministry of Truth, which revised historical records to align with its own narrative.

"As if the Ministry of Truth in George Orwell's 1984 now existed, with its motto 'Ignorance is Strength,' this Court is now asked to determine whether the federal government has the power it claims — to dissemble and disassemble historical truths when it has some domain over historical facts," Rufe wrote. "It does not.

Here is the ruling if anyone is interested in reading it:
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.paed.648842/gov.uscourts.paed.648842.53.0.pdf

tctrills:
I asked for the list of museums Trump has destroyed to remove black or slavery history and I don't remember you giving me any.
All you produced was an anti trump article that provided no evidence.
I have not changed the goal post, you haven't provided what I requested. Please resend in case I missed it.

Let me help you with that.
https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=museums+where+Trump+has+remove+black+or+slavery+history

cococandy:
You’re going to have an easier time getting a horse through a keyhole than you would having MAGA to acknowledge facts that don’t fit their narrative.

Disgusting and cowardly is the most polite way to describe their relationship with truth

I think everyone goes through the cycle.
In the end, the realization should set in; You can't have a rational discussion with people who have their own set of facts and then change those facts when it suits them.

nateevs:
Correct goal post shifting and completely lacks awareness.

And a lack of logic.

It's the same energy as "what do you mean that man tried to kill that woman? Even though he shot her 50 times, she's still breathing."

Just leaving this here.
Noem claims she wasn't aware.

TMZ just finished Lindsey Graham.
They posted a picture of Lindsey walking around Disney World by himself holding a bubble wand. wtf.
The next day he posted a "beard" pic of him with a gun.
Posting the gun pic is the same kind of thing as ono getting married after 30 years as a V.

MAGA is a joke.

tctrills:
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List just one historic fact that used to be taught before Trump that is no longer taught.
...

How the goal posts shift.

basilico:
So hours are the most important thing when it comes to flying.

I've flown several times in the jump seat of 72-80 seaters.You only get that opportunit with explicit permission from the Captain of the plane.

Hours (practice and experience) are the most important thing when it comes to flying
Basilico: I've sat in the jump seat(passenger seat) of a plane several times so I have experience flying planes.


I'm sad for what we call education nowadays.
People keep proving you have to be low IQ to be MAGA.

ono:
budaatum, just reading through your response to Deep's questions, I know deep down within me that you need the services of an exorcist - one who has the full power of the Holy Spirit in him or her.

You need deliverance. You are in a spiritual bondage of sorts - I have no idea what it is that you are under. The Lord knows and see you. You have nothing to fear. But you have to come down from that your high horse of arrogance and pride. You have to let them go and submit. It's the hardest part. You must submit to the Lord.

Jokes aside, I admire you. I feel the Lord has great need for you. You will find him when you seek him with all your heart.

Jeremiah 29:13 (KJV)
And ye shall seek me, and find me , when ye shall search for me with all your heart.

Psalm 145:18 (KJV)
The LORD is nigh unto all them that call upon him, To all that call upon him in truth.

It is well with your soul.

Aren't you tired?
Why don't you find another thread to proselytize.
There's plenty in this forum.

tctrills:
Your point is that because there are no plantations left, the right is deleting history?
This is just finding issues where there are none.
Slavery is taught sufficiently in schools in the US. Just because there are no plantations left, would we now pretend that the history of slavery is being erased.

I truly don't understand what you are complaining about here.

You are fighting for plantations to be brought back because you feel the history of slavery is being forgotten?

Anyway, let's come back home to where the history of slavery is being forgotten.

My great great grand father like many others in his time had slaves, with the exception of Badagry we don't see any monuments. Every town and city in ancient Nigeria practiced slavery, how many monuments are there? I don't see any in Mbise, Egba, Kano, or kogi.

I was never taught about black on black slavery in school. So who is erasing history?

Moral of the story, charity begins at home.

Do you live in a black hole?
It is not even a debatable thing that this Trump administration is trying to erase they history pertaining to slavery.

DeepSight:
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Really?

Good grief.

You can search up the discussion or ask him, he may just admit it.

DeepSight:
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You know, for me, the amazing thing is that he also defends a chap who says that that very Civil Rights Movement was a mistake.

So do Benalvino3 and raumdeuter. They all defend the man who said that the very movement that allowed blacks to have equal rights in the US was a mistake.

How can anyone ever think of these fellas as having any iota of self respect.

Benalvino3 has said similar things himself.
For one, he believes the world was better off in the 60's.
Also believes slavery was a good thing for black Americans.
And I think Raumdeuter has walked up to that line(may have said similar but can't be 100% sure so don't want to put that on him).

It's that still colonized mind and self-hate.

cococandy:
This part. As a bonafide born and raised in Nigeria, I don’t even feel confident yapping on and on about the current politicians and their policies. Basilica wants to lay behind his keyboard and tell me what’s going on in my Californian neighborhood. Same as Ono. Just a set of ridiculous people.

I know I dislike the effect of tinubu’s policies but I can’t confidently outline each of them and say specifically what it is about them I dislike since I’m not that conversant with the details.

I’d feel stupid going back and forth with someone about their lived experience.

Exactly!!! 💯
I just don't understand the gain to me.

ono:
I knew you’d latch onto my Houston trip to make some generalisations. You’re a tool. Look at your long epistle over an answer I gave. Has it occurred to you that I didn’t quite reveal everything about my US experience to you ?

More or less of a tool than they guy who has spent posts calling someone gay because some perpetual liar got 'excited' when he saw a white guy in my picture?
And was this longer or shorter than the many posts you've written on Bemuraca's colo-minded excitement at seeing a white guy?
You can miss me with the this.

ono:
Bro, make I leave you be. Keep on yapping away. I’m reading about me pretending to know “everything”. Where in any of my post did I ever point out that I know everything? I have consistently told everyone here on end that humans with all that we claim to know are limited by the system that created them. The creator of that system knows more than we humans know. That highly knowledgeable being is God. The all knowing and powerful. You lot think you can logic your way around things of this world without God. That’s crazy!

And here you are again. Trying to use your "faith" to cover the BS that you do.
That's that fake Christianity I'm talking about. That rambling nonsense you can expect from people whose faith is just a weapon to try to beat the people they see as "others" into submission.
But if you believe God is the only omniscient one, than practice that. Open your ears instead of your mouth.
You may learn something

Here is what you wrote:

ono:
Madam, if MLK had access to the technology we have today, he won’t be on the streets- that I can tell you!
Only the lazy, dull and jobless goes out there to protest. Benalvi showed a couple of them fat and flabby in one of his X post earlier.

So, how can you tell me? Did you march with MLK? Do you understand the history of the African American civil rights movement? Do you have an understanding in what helped bring about the success of the civil rights movement? Have you been in a movement which changed social/governmental policy and led to legal equality of anyone?
Again, tell me what experience or expertise you relied on in saying any of this?

ono:
As to my sexuality, I don’t even know what to say to you again. Let me not use some foul words so Seun’s bot won’t block my post.

I've given you multiple opportunities to prove you aren't gay. And you haven't.
Using your logic:
We know you were a V until near about 30. Very suss.
Then you say you got married. Most guys like that get married to pretend they aren't gay. You getting married like that is suss again.
You always talk about gays.
You even seem to be really close with Bemeruca who had an infatuation with a man in this thread who always talked about r-ay-ping other men. Gay guys hang out together.
So, by your logic, prove it. But, it seems you are having a hard time proving it.

ono:
Now we are in the Information Age. A lot is available to anyone who wants to know about the US and elsewhere. I can’t claim I know everything about the US, heck I can’t even claim I know everything about Nigeria. I have never travelled to Nassarawa state in my life. Does that mean I don’t know anything about th place ? Your reasoning capacity is suspect. Could it be because you’re gay ?

Yes, and of course you can really know something without experiencing it. That logic is drivel for uneducated minds who like to speak about things they have no experience in.
You know infinitely less about the US than I know about Nigeria. Though I am a Nigerian citizen and spend considerable time there, I don't even feel comfortable offering political opinions on Nigeria.
You know little about the US. Acknowledge that and maybe true learning/understanding can begin.

ono:
Yes. I was in Houston some years back - on a course. I was there for weeks. Stayed in one hotel off Sam Houston freeway. Pleasant experience. What’s your problem ?

I have answered your gay question in an earlier post. I have nothing to hide.

So you think your "weeks" experience on a course gives you some comprehensive understanding of the US?
Now it's not the opinions that bother me, it's how you speak authoritatively about somewhere you really don't have much experience with or understanding of.
I just don't understand what the purpose of it is. Do you think your uninformed views are more valuable than informed views?

I usually go to forums because it's a good way to get perspectives from people who are in the know.
So, like with this Iran war, I'm curious about military strategy and weapons systems, so fortunately the forum I'm on has some people I know who worked in DOD, the state department, developed military equipment, etc. etc.
Now, not every one of them has the same perspective, but because of their experience in their fields, what they share is invaluable and even their disagreements is valuable. So, most of the convos now are deep detail stuff. Now I may chime in once in a while, but most of the time I just read, and learn because I am comfortable with not having to pretend I know everything.

But here that's flipped on its head. 3 of the 4 conservatives who have driven the conversation in the last few pages don't even live in the US or have any particular expertise in it (lying about it doesn't count). And 2 of the 4 (Bemeruca and Basilico) have never stepped foot in the US.

It's ok not to have to talk so authoritatively about something you don't have great amounts of experience with or understanding of.

As to the other topic about being g-a-y.
Cleary you have something to hide as you are trying to hide it.
If you weren't trying to hide it you would prove it and stop hiding it.
I hope you are beginning to understand how nonsensical most of your posts and questions to me on this were.

ono:
Madam, if MLK had access to the technology we have today, he won’t be on the streets- that I can tell you!

Only the lazy, dull and jobless goes out there to protest. Benalvi showed a couple of them fat and flabby in one of his X post earlier.

Serious question, have you ever been to the US?

Also, have you shown us proof you aren't gay?

bayelsaowei:
I don’t think the pope is talking about the holy war the US-Isreal is waging against Iran😀. Cant be.

it’s an ordained war from the heavens. Infact Trump and Netanyahu are the modern day Cyrus. 😀

People call themselves Christoans but seem to reject the core teachings of Christ.

Bemeruca, remember when you had that "bromance" with that guy who would pretend he was some Lagos big boy and he would fly to the US on weekends from the UK?

Tell me, does a str8 man write a post like this about another guy?
(And clearly AI didn't write that post, you couldn't even conjugate 'do' right.)