sinola:


You guys should summon him for a meeting. In the meeting, tell him that you guys will offset the outstanding and deduct the money from your subsequent house rent.
This is how we do it in lagos though I don't know how you guys rôll in Abuja.

That's the problem... He's so troublesome that he doesn't listen to anyone. Every meeting you have with him ends in a fight. None of us plan on renewing our rent due to his hostile and crooked behaviour.

Osagyefo98:
Pack out then

My brother it's easier said than done. If the fund was available I wouldn't have even come here to seek for advise/help

IbnBattuta1960:
The problem is not the current bills but the outstanding before he moved in.
OP, it is possible that the LL doesn't have the money or simply doesn't care.
If the prepaid meter comes, the outstanding will be incorporated into your bills over time.
Decide if you all affected can take up the bill and remove it from your house rent. Else, you have to move after your rent expires.

The guy is fraudulent. If it was about the money, he would have sorted the whole issue immediately I and another tenant paid him rent at same time as we both moved in a couple of days apart so he had more than enough money to sort out the bill. The guy doesn't care. None of us are renewing our rent as we're all leaving the compound when or even before our rent expires. The guy is like a wild animal. You can't reason with him. He's like a grade one tout literally no kidding. I never knew these kind of people existed until I met this guy. He was even bold to tell me he was building another house elsewhere as we were returning from the police station after the IPO in charge of the case I reported against him tried to sue for peace rather than escalate the matter.

Tokskob2008:
Seems your landlord and mine are siblings because for the past 7months or so i have been fetching water since he refused to replaced the spoilt pumping machine, he says it's the responsibility of we the tennants to buy him a new one even after we had contributed to repair it twice before it was confirmed "dead". Half his tennants has left but he can't rent out the vacant flats since there's no water, can't wait to get cash and move out never again will i live in a house that the landlord resides too, it's not just worth it at all.

He also did same thing in respect to water to a former tenant here I was told . They said the lady was paying her light and water bill when due but he was spending the money on himself. She got fed up one day after discovering what he was doing as they kept coming to disconnect the water and she had to start paying her water bill to some neighbors directly behind the house and then connect pipe to supply water into her room. It was horrible just hearing it. Just imagine the stress.

Liposure:
I just wish you guys could take him to court.

How effective is this? What and what is involved?

lefulefu:
is he the landlord or just the caretaker? I am yet to see a landlord who would be so uncaring as to mess up his main source of livelihood.anyway wen I was in school I had this same issue in lodge I rented .the former tenants who previously lived there refused paying their light bill and it accumulated.i believe d landlord ejected them or so.so how we resolved the issue was that the landlord paid some amount then we the tenants contributed some amount then the lodge governor invited the nepa official and we appealed that this was the amount we were able to raise.so we paid half of the accumulated fee then d nepa guy cancelled d other one and made out a fresh meter for us.dats how we solved our own.ours was easier cos we were co operative and it was a student environment.ur lodge should also do d same strategy.u should invite d nepa man In charge of ur district then raise some amount and pay to him and appealed to him to cancel d other other half.he go listen.then try and leave dat lodge wen ur rent expire and try rent a place that has a landlord/caretaker with normal faculty.Educated landlords are better.

My brother he is the landlord o. We don't have any issue with doing what you said but the guy is stark illetratre. Several attempts have been made in regard to what you suggested even last month that the PHCN official came around, he suggested same to him but the guy opposed them as usual and was just shouting. Truth is he doesn't want to spend a dime in rectifying the issue. He wants us to handle it all alone. The guy is fraudulent and crooked in nature. I am Igbo by tribe and the guy is also Igbo. Before now I didn't know why people so much dislike my tribe until I met this guy that was when I understood. I say this with great shame. There are other things he has done which contradicts the agreements we had before I moved in but I don't want to state them here to avoid the post being lengthy.

Twelfthman:
Hi its seams you like the house and the environment exempt for the light isues and landlord behavior.

If you have enough money to spear go into an agreement with him. Help him pay up the phch bills and have it deducted from your rent money. Pls involve your lawyer if you taking this step

OR

You can get a solar system. The cheapest monthly payment solar system I knew is luminous electricity.

If you unable to get the above steps done then move out of that apartment. Life is too short for dramas

@bolded no, I don't. I rented the house under duress after having checked a couple of others and no success. I urgently had to move out of where I was staying. I have 6 months to go.

aroundtheearth:
Move out.

I don't have another rent for now. Still saving up

lefulefu:
lol really messed up If ur home that should be a place of rest should be a place of wahala

It's really crazy. Everytime I remember I'm coming back home, I become sad.

lefulefu:
I don't get it
Are u the only tenant suffering this problem and if not why havent u tenants come together to complain to the landlord?
Also why does it seem u are the only guy he is targeting in his lodge?
I believe wat is reasonable is for u tenants to come together and meet the landlord and reason with him like civilised humans beings over how to resolve the outstanding nepa bills
There is no how no how he won't listen to u guys if u bring the matter in a group
Don't involve in this matter single handendly
Let the other tenants be involved as well

The guy is just plain wicked and cruel. He doesn't listen to anyone. The only things he wishes is for us to use our money to sort out everything. Once he collects rents from unsuspecting prospective tenants he turns into a monster and every promise he made before they moved into his house becimes null and void. Someone from the same compound told me that no one has ever stayed up to a year in the compound before. We have been using our money to sort out the issue before but we're fed up.

Offpoint1:
Collect your balance and find somewhere else relocate... You no fit use your own money buy wahala for yourself.

Living in the same house with your landlord or lady is among the 1001 ways to die. Number 6 pricisely.

When he was invited by the Police, I asked for my balance and he said he doesn't have money to pay me except I move out and he gets someone to occupy the place and then gives me the balance but the issue right now is that I don't have money to pay for another place as my rent is remaining about 6-7 months to expire.

Hi all, I'm sorry I don't know the exact section to post this but hopefully the mods will help in moving it to the right section. Thanks.

I'm gonna go straight to the point.

I moved into this small house in Abuja due to pressure from the people I was staying with before now which required that I moved out quickly from there. After searching for a house to stay in within the shortest possible time, I finally settled for this one I'm staying in right now. I paid fully for the house in the presence of about three witnesses that is to say I am not owing a dime.

As with every house, there are agreements binding the tenants and landlords and some of mine includes Paying of water and light bill. Now the issue is that whenever we pay our light bill, after about a week or two it gets disconnected due to the outstanding balance of about N50,000 which is small compared to what so many people are owing in Nigeria but still have their electricity intact and from what I heard he was the one who kept refusing to pay the bills whenever it was given to him by past tenants and hence it accumulated.

The landlord promised fixing prepaid metre when I was moving in but until now he still hasn't and we the tenants have been suffering dearly for this. Everytime the PHCN guys come around, he fights and insults them and this I believe is the reason they have refused to be linient with us which is what he has been doing to us, the tenants too. At a point I even reported him to the police for subtly threatening me verbally and angrily and he was picked up for questioning and ever since then he started avoiding having any confrontation with me.

Now the issue is that we haven't had electricity for over a month now in our compound while our surrounding neighbors constantly have light in their houses. This has made us suffer greatly. Note that we don't owe light bill. We pay whenever there's a new bill and like I stated before, just after a week or two, we get disconnected again and we go ahead to buy wires, get and pay the person to help reconnect it. This has been going on since I moved in here. I later heard that other tenants suffered same with him. I can't remember the last time I ironed my clothes in my house, charged my phone or even watched TV all because of this guy's cruelty.

I had to resort to getting a generator to enable me get light and enjoy a bit of fan whenever I get back from work. My fridge has been lying dormant as I no longer use it to store cooked food. All these has cost me and is still costing me money. I now buy fuel almost every time, eat out because I can no longer cook and store the food in my fridge. He lives in the compound and doesn't care.

My question is this: what can be done to get us out of this misery this heartless guy has put us into? Please we need all the help we can get. The other two tenants are already overwhelmed with the whole situation. Please we need all the help we can get. Location is Abuja. Thanks.

Empressabbie:

Lolz
This is very funny, the same stupid comment from a bigot. What else do I expect from a brainwashed kid?

I already gave you the perfect response, well suited/customized for you. Anything else is a waste of my time. Keep going on until you're taken unaware by the sudden appearance of Christ. Not every opportunity is encountered twice. The rapture is near. What I'm saying to you may not make sense now by it definitely will when the day comes. Just like no man can stop the day from breaking and the sun from rising so also none can stop this very event. You think you're smart because u go school abi? Hahahahahahahaa... No wahala.

ThinkFreely:
Nothing like rapture.
We all are gonna die and our remains will be nutrients for saprophytes, leaving behind our fossils for future humans to study.

OK.

ThinkFreely:
Religion itself is fake.
You are currently living a fake life, there’s no proof whatsoever for what you are practicing.

Like I said before when the rapture will take place that will be proof enough for you.

ThinkFreely:
No evidence to suggest that any pastor is not fake.
Pastors are fake and deceptive

The only way to figure out that something is fake is if you have seen the original before. My post is telling people to go look for God themselves. It is only lazy and unserious Christians that end up being scammed. A man who has had series of encounters with God in his secret place and daily life CANNOT I repeat CANNOT be scammed.

Empressabbie:

Stop being foolish!
He's not saying he knows everything but he knows more than you. Your post showed how ignorant you are. You as a believer, can you tell what time you sleep?
If I begin to ask you questions based on what you believe, I'm very sure you won't be able to answer any?
Being able to question the existence of god requires logical reasoning, and it's obvious you lack it

Madam You're the foolish one here. As logical as you are why u never create anything? You need pillars to sustain a building yet the clouds over your head never fall on you since the day dem born you.U have small brain and big mouth to talk abi? U think you're wise so you want to use your "wisdom" to search out the one who formed you. Keep feeling fly until rapture hit you like play. Then we shall see how it all ends up.
Here is a scripture for you and your fellow atheists:

THE FOOL SAYS IN HIS HEART THAT THERE IS NO GOD (Psalm 14:1)

You're welcome

hakeem4:


[b]How does this prove that
1) Jesus is the son of god? [/b]
2) Mohammed is the last prophet
3) Jesus died and came back after 3 days
And lastly

This your question doesn’t make any sense

But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are (spiritually discerned. (1 Cor. 2:14)

In this kingdom we don't argue. Rather we instruct those who are willing to come to Christ. Cheers!

Professorcplus:

[b]...I know your point of view. But I assume I don't know. To begin with your biblical story of how man was formed which was written on CONFIRMATION BIAS.

1. When animals and human died, it begins to decompose rotten, and degraded back to mix with soil. Many have witnessed it then and becomes generally acceptable. So it is easier to tell the people that God made them from sand/dust. Obviously they know not any other answer to the mystery because they weren't exposed to enough knowledge.

2. God created Eve from Adams rib. This is also said/written based on confirmation bias. According to Holy Bible, Moses wrote Genesis. So if Moses was born in a society where men goes to war, bring goodies of war for women to feed on. Men take major decisions and affair of the nation. The only useful thing women does was to give the men s x and born children. Infact some tribe, women who born more males is given honor among her peer. So if God wants to talk to a prophet, it would be insane for God to create women same as He's created men because it's patriarchal society.

This is information age! google, you can find out how you are formed [/b]but don't let your belief cloud your sense of judgement

Very funny. Using google to find out about how you were created. This has got to be the funniest thing I've read in a long long time.

CAPSLOCKED:


WE'RE NOT IN THE LAST DAY.
YOU WILL DIE, YOUR CHILDREN WILL DIE, THEIR CHILDREN WILL DIE, AND THEIR GREAT GREAT GRAND CHILDREN WILL DIE, AND THE EARTH WILL STILL BE IN EXISTENCE.
PEOPLE HAVE BEEN LIVING HERE FOR OVER 10,000 YEARS. MAYBE IN THE YEAR 4085, NIGERIA WILL BE THE MOST POWERFUL COUNTRY, AND PEOPLE WILL SIMPLY FORGET ABOUT THE COMING OF A CERTAIN JEWISH CHRIST AND JUST CARRY ON WITH THEIR LIVES.

If they have told you that your whole life would change because of a global disease you go gree? Na so rapture go take be you like film too. No worry

MATTHEW 24:37 downwards.

KJV:But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38
KJV:For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39
KJV:And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
40
KJV:Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
41
KJV:Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
42
KJV:Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
43
KJV:But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
44
KJV:Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.

CAPSLOCKED:


LOL, YOU DON'T WANT TO BE CONVINCED. YOU JUST WANT TO ARGUE AND QUOTE BIBLE VERSES.

Its very simple. I want to be convinced. Guys all over say there's no God so I want those questions I asked up there to be addressed first. We can begin from there.

Professorcplus:
[b]...a life full of mysteries, uncertainty and challenges; here we found ourselves. We're traped in life full of challenges yet, the only way to exist it is through death.

...It will be a nightmare for human to think they're all alone on a lifeless rock called earth. But who will they lean on in dark time full of terror.

...Some were strong enough to comfort themselves in harsh times but some were not for their psychological desires can't withstand it.

Why do people go to church? To feel among, not to get lonely, to seek divine help, no other places to go, to hookup with life partner, to socialize, to add meaning to life, To find comforter, seek for joy, to feel go, to lean on.

No doubt these attributes aren't bad for human in normal sense. But the problem is why hold unto a belief you aren't guaranteed of. This belief are harmful, toxic, Confirmatory biased, poisonous to human mental being.

Until human can stand up to the reality of their existence, face their challenges and find the answers to the mysteries that surrounds them, they will always be a slave to dogma belief.
[/b]

Explain how you were formed sir. Convince me.

hakeem4:
Actually, there are also no real pastors or religious leaders anywhere.



We just have people who can not comprehend the awesomeness of the universe and life. So they have to attribute it to a creator

I have just one task for you "smart man" I want you to tell me the exact time you fall asleep tonight. I'm not talking about when you close your eyes o. I'm talking about the exact time you fall asleep If you can do that, then I'll agree with your theory but if you can't then your brain is too small. Almighty "Comprehender."
Comprehend ko comprehension ni.

Faithful4real:
But the bible said in the last day(which we are in) false prophet shall arise.

Yes you're right. And that's what my post is portraying. It's talking about everyone searching for God by themselves so that no fake pastor or prophet will be able to decieve them. One love

sonmvayina:
All pastors are fakes and liers ...How can you look somebody in the eyes and tell them a woman got pregnant without a man's sperm....

You can only have a PhD in fakery and lying.

If you can't explain how u were able to enter into this world without an aircraft or a vehicle or how something as watery as sperm could form a human out of you then you're the FOOL here. With all your wisdom you can't create an ant yet you have guts to talk about something you can't fathom. You think you're wise because opera mini dashed you 50mb to browse. Foolish children everywhere

I wish Christians were taught on how to know Christ rather than how to convince them to belong or remain loyal to a particular pastor or denomination. COVID-19 has proved that without going to "Church" on Sundays, most people can't connect to God by themselves. So I'm thinking... What if you can't watch your pastor preach online or on TV during this lockdown... Will you still be able to grow by yourself or will you wait until the lockdown is over to continue feeding from where you stopped?

I can almost see the expression on you face right now. "This guy must be either naive or daft to even think this" you may say. But hold on follow me closely. Don't conclude I am wrong just yet.

I don't have time for much write up so let's get down to business fast.

if you wish for your child to be formally educated where do you take them? The Church or Mosque? No! You must take them to a proper school right?

Why was the Church created? Please note that by church here I don't mean Christian religious denominations because that's where most people get it wrong. A denomination is not a church. Why did I say so? It is because denominations thrive mostly on man-made doctrines and human differences that has steamed from individuals interpretation of scriptures. So it is based on this interpretation and understanding of these individuals that denominations are formed.

Let me return... Why was the Church formed? It was formed basically for the spiritual and mental growth, transformation, maturing and edification of believers all over until everyone of them can become a replica of Jesus Christ in every way. (please refer to Ephesians 4: 11-16). So there you have it. The Church is a school of the Spirit but unfortunately many do not care to grow in this school. They would rather worship and revere the word of their pastor over God's Word any day anytime. It's just like someone who is a student but would party from the beginning of the semester till the end and then expect to copy answers from someone during examination whom he isn't sure of whether they are giving the right answers to questions asked or not. So just like this student, unfortunately these are the majority of "Christians" that make up the church today. They don't want to go through the stress of knowing God because it is quite costly. They'd rather pay FULL attention to their jobs and hustle and go listen to pastor precah on Sunday. Is Pastor saying the right thing? They don't know(1 John 4:1).

These set of Christians are forever dependent on others (Hebrews 5:12). It is not permitted in this School of the Spirit called the Church.

Lastly, as long as your primary aim of "seeking God" is to be blessed you'll continue to be scammed full time. If you're in that category I want to direct you to your ancestors... Jesus encountered them during His time here on earth (John 6:23-27). These guys as Jesus said, were not interested in learning the system that governed the kingdom. They were not at all interested in being part of this kingdom which Jesus was teaching rather they were oy following because of bread which He gave them the previous day.

Apostle Paul encouraged us to "study to show ourselves competent as workmen, as citizens of this kingdom (2 Tim. 2:15). But guess what? Alot of Christians are way too lazy to do this. Studying entails deep searching of truth with the 100% involvement of the Teacher himself - the Holy Spirt. Oh! How I love Him.

So there you have it. Stop saying that Pastors are scam. If you want them to stop scamming you go and tread the path that all serious Christians have once treaded on or are presently treading. Stop being lazy! Because there's no how you'll stay with God's Word and have a commited prayer life (not the kind of prayer that you're always asking God for blessing. I mean a prayer life which is built solidly on a hunger to know God) and you won't grow. It's not possible. Most people are not interested in this. They don't want to know God. So that's where the problem lies. So if you've been doing this, it's time for you to stop and pursue God sincerely then you'll become a mighty man with power and grace. No one will scam you anymore. I hope you understand my caption now?

PS: It's good to have someone as a physical guide but please don't make them God to yourself. They may not always be right you know? The fact that that great man of God heard from God yesterday doesn't mean He heard from God today. Only the wise will understand.

Jentle244:
fear anybody that wears glasses. devil's in disguise

You don minnit

G

Women's problems are self inflicted.

HardMirror:
Now christianity is a fantastic religion. Although we love saying christianity is not a religion (smiles), we prefer saying it is a relationship with God. I smile because these are part of the things that makes christianity seem special. (More on this later)

Many people erroneously think atheists were never good christians, or that they become atheists because they want to sin. Lol, that is absolutely wrong. It is almost impossible to be a better christian than I was. I don't joke with purity and sincerity. I fast for more than half of the year, to maintain a good level of purity and focus. (And I was damn thin too).

This is one of the reasons why it is impossible to convert me again. There is nothing anyone can say or do that shakes me.

So christians online stop thinking people are not being sincere when they say they are atheists.

MY JOURNEY TO ATHEISM BEGINS: https://www.nairaland.com/3078223/pastor-atheist-why-never-christian#45183779

I took time to read your narrative. You actually at some point admitted that so many things which you experienced in the faith e.g. Praying in tongues and the gift of the word of knowledge were real. As I kept on reading I was able to pick that the problem started when that blind man and deaf boy weren't healed. And at a point you mentioned how that you walked out on a politician because he probably thought he could take advantage of you. From this last statement I got to understand that you're a perfectionist by nature. Although in itself it's not wrong to be a perfectionist but if carried into everything a lot of things will go bad.
The Christian life is a life of faith as you already know. God is supreme and man CANNOT dictate to him what He should do. He is king. You don't order a king around. I know that deep in your heart you're angry at God for not answering you when you cried out to Him to heal those people. Remember same thing happened to Aositle Paul when that infirmity came in him which refused to heal? Even with all his anointings. Do you also know that Elisha with all his annointings died from an illness? Do you also know that God refused to honour the prayer of Jesus when he asked for the cup to pass from Him? Now it may seem as though God is not loving. There are things that God will never reveal to you when you ask. He doesn't owe you an explanation. He is king. What I notice from your narrative is that since you were already walking in a high level of anointing, you felt everything was possible and God MUST do everything you ask. But then you were disappointed. Reasons been that you're a perfectionist by nature and also you don't like it when people maltreat you or take you for granted. This was where the problem was. Bro let me tell you this... It is ok not to have all the answers (most people don't like this) . Even Apostle Paul said that we see in part and understand in part. You can't have an explanation to everything. If you did, then it won't take long for you to feel like God who knows all things. That was the problem with Adam and eve in scripture. They wanted to be like God and understand everything. Whenever you're soaring in God, one of the ways He puts you in check is to let you be in some situations where everything you know will fail. That's His way of reminding you that you're still human. It was pride that got into you. You were known by all to be a miracle worker... A status you enjoyed very well. But all of a sudden you can't perform one small miracle that should be like a piece of cake. And then you became upset. You know I'm saying the truth. A man that must walk long with God must always remain a child at heart. This you weren't. You may have matured in other areas but not in shutting off pride. Like you said there's nothing anyone can tell you now that will make you return because you already know all. The scripture says that it is impossible to restore someome like you back to the faith (Hebrews 6:4). You know the right thing to do Bro. If there was ever an evidence of God in your life then you know He's real. No one can return you back to Christ. There's a fight for your soul. The question is... Are you going to give it up?

Glorymax:
Dear, you may lose your man to your sister. Just get strong and prepare yourself for such and move on
It happens and still happening. There is this family know to a relation where similar incident happened.
The two love birds grew their relationship up to the point of marriage (traditional) being fixed. On the day of marriage, everything was set and the groom and family arrived as planned. As discussions went on, the man threw a shocker that he is interested in marrying the younger sister of the supposed lady (his lover) they came for.
Like play like play, he meant his word and that's final for him. All efforts to resolve the imbroglio ended like pouring water on stone. The ladies family gave in, and supported the marrying of their younger daughter at the expense of the elder one.
The marriage went on and concluded same day. With that shock, that elder lady till tomorrow remains unmarried.
This story is not Nollywood, all parties are available and within reach.

Why I dropped this story is for the lady seeking advice to take a quick decision and leave the guy for her sister if that's his choice and find love elsewhere before it's too late.
Good luck.

The younger sister is a bad person. How can you agree to marry a man who jilted your own sister. There are things a person must NEVER do.