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ProfShymex:
Islam was in Yorubaland way before Uthman Fodio and his Fulani jihadists started their madness. It came during Songhay empire and Yorubas did trade with them.

Heck, there were a few Yoruba Islamic scholars back them. I remember the thread you're alluding to and I did post a few academic references of the Yoruba Islamic scholars who actually traveled to Songhay.

Ijebus have always been smart. If not, how do you think my folks were able to monopolise the coast of Lagos for a long time, without a navy? And Ijebus did trade all the way to present day Bayelsa/Rivers. Heck, the traditional clothes the Nembe Ijaw folks of Rivers wear - the tortoise cloth - is an Ijebu cloth. And I'm sure you know that the Itsekiris are mostly Ijebus.

Check this out:



Lmao at atheism. I'm not an atheist. I'm still technically a Christian - though I don't go to Church (except for family things). I believe in God, the most high. I don't know who he/she is but I believe a higher being lives inside of me and someone is definitely watching over me. I don't know if this person/being is attached to any religion - but there's a supreme being out there somewhere that looks like me with the same complexion.

Cool history.

I remember what my mom said about Ijebu people

If I want to believe in a higher being, I'll choose the protectors of my native land.........we call it Yoruba mythology, but they were more than mythology to our people back then. They were our religion. Infact, Christianity, like Islam, is filled with mythological "facts".

Jarus:
Oyb

You call yourself a northern Yoruba, which state would that be?

What happened to oyb

prettyboi1989:
is this the joke that wants to become americas president? am sure no reasonable person will vote him in. bloody racist, this nt the first tym he has lashed out at people. his own riches comes with disrespect and hatred. may he become humble and speechless when he looses the election.

He has verbally insulted

1. Mexicans
2. Cubans
3. Iran
4. China
5. Africans


and he's not surprisingly leading the Republican polls. American is 70% white and they're racist. Go figure.

The population of Hispanics is rising tho and that's the white man's fear.

Are these not Chinese people?

I thought PDP could accept defeat like Jonathan.

Aareonakakanfo:
How come the Alake of Egbaland has the most pictures on Google,he must have been really famous.Maybe that's the person our 'sexy' Governor is trying to emulate

lmaoooooo @that picture

modath:
Guilty as charged...

Don't mind that moniker, na amalgamation of many things, & the fact that my oversabi plenty in politics as against Romance or Celebrity, i get the assumption..

It's easier that way, to make them assume you're a guy.

Nigerian men are misogynist.

ProfShymex:
Lol.

But Ijebu had a lot Muslims even when Christians were persecuted and they embraced Islam cos of trading, hence there are more Ijebu Muslims than Christians. However, I think they just never trusted white folks.

The funniest thing is that the Ijebus were the first to have contacts with white people and started trading Ijebu clothes to them from like the 14th century or so. So why Islam was allowed before Christianity is still a mystery to me.

Anyway, are you an atheist?...you sound like my boy.

A while ago when NL debated historical facts and not beer parlor nonsense like Biafra, I learned that Islam came to Yorubaland before it spread to the North, but Yorubas were reluctant recipients of the religion. It was quickly absorbed by the North.

So Ijebus are smart people after all lol.

I think once I was able to decide, even though I was confused between personal decision and family obligations, I chose atheism. It took me a while to stand up for myself and what I want. It's hard to be an atheist in a Christian home, but my family tries to be tolerant. TRIES.

Aareonakakanfo:
Lmaoooo Pastor ko Alfa ni .The reason why I avoid religious discussions is because it ends up in conflict

Okay mo ti gbo.

ProfShymex:
Lol.

The Egba were the ones who finally succeeded in taking Christianity to Ijebuland. The went through Remo and once Christianity gained a foothold there - it went to other parts of Ijebuland.

Wouldn't surprise me if I find out that Aareonakakanfo is actually from Egba. The man sounds like a pastor and it's suspicious that he doesn't want to discuss religion with an atheist.

The most frustrating I hear from my Yorubas people is "God will take control. leave it, don't worry about tomorrow". WTF?

This is not news. I hail my Biafran brothers and sisters for their "quick money" spirit.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/3001814_106855556410139960045929168854782223139151n_jpeg940f11bd52d37faeb00079e5ae556bef

My kinda guy.

Christianity/Islam ....... a dangerous tool. It has been used by world powers to stunt the growth of the black race.

laudate:
Hmmn... this is a tough question. And I say so because I have friends and acquaintances from that area.
When you live in close proximity with another tribe like those in Kwara and Kogi have done for most of their life, then you agree that there is bound to be a heavy dose of acculturation, inter-marriage and blending with other ethnic groups, inside those communities.
While doing my industrial training, I was posted to Ilorin and I witnessed first hand families that had a heavy blend of Yoruba & Fulani influences.
Their great grandfather was Fulani, but through succeeding generations of intermarriage and acculturation, their children and grandchildren now bear Yoruba names and speak Yoruba language fluently. The religious factor of Islam is also there.
But heavy traces of Pulaku, the Fulani culture is entrenched in their daily lifestyle. In addition to that, most of these families were considered Northern minorities in the days of the old Sardauna Ahmadu Bello. Despite his strongly spartan Fulani outlook, Sardauna believed in fairness and transparency and gave all the Northern minorities free scholarship to study abroad and in local institutions.
He did not discriminate among them, even though his fellow core Northerners were not as accommodating or tolerant as he was, with respect to education. When it was time to send his first 11 to make up the core civil service, he chose some of the brightest minds among the minority groups, including the Okun. When he picked his kitchen cabinet, he also made sure the Northern minorities were involved, especially the Okun Yoruba. And that is why till date, a lot of them like the late SB Awoniyi, late SB Daniyan, Justice Akanbi, the Oniyangi etc., saw themselves as Northerners, despite the fact that they were from the Yoruba, or Okun sub-ethnic group.
I would suggest a rapprochement with this group, and a careful approach to sound them out on where their thoughts lie, with respect to aligning with the South-western Yorubas.
I hope I have not offended anyone with my explanations. It was just a bid to shed more light on the matter and not to cause disrespect in any way. Thanks.

I believe you. Look at the Saraki family: Fulani grandfather, Yoruba mother, Yoruba wife, etc.

You echoed modath's thought about Yorubas being too impartial ....... that's our downfall.

Igbos want the Biafran interest, North have the Northern agenda, what do Yorubas want/have?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EozDxg2m2Gw

So modath is a chick........I thought she was a guy lol


@ coolitempa, I see you observing.

Aareonakakanfo:
Well... i don't know how realistic that is.They also need to come out and make their intentions known.Do they see themselves as yorubas to start with? We shouldn't force anyone, its like what the romanis are facing concerning ikwerres

true, we can't force anyone. So in 20xx this is what wikipedia is gonna say about Yorubas:

Yoruba-speaking people are located in:

1. Togo
2.Benin
3. Ghana
4. Odu'a
5. ND Republic (Itsekiri and Olukumi)
6. Gambia
7. Ivory Coast

There are also Gambian and ivory Coast tribes that speak Yoruba.

How much more divided can we get?

You can't argue with this.

They did. The Northern politicians combined have stolen enough to make Kano the Dubai of Africa.

Any Yoruba speaking non-sw groups that does not voice its unity with the Yoruba union should be left out.

No time for saboteurs.

Why would any Yoruba-speaking group want to stay with the North? I'm still trying to grasp the muteness of Kwarans.

What does the North offer?

1. Illiteracy

2. Poverty

3. Religious intolerance

4. Terrorism

5. Low mortality rate

6. Backwardness

.
.
.


etc

Aareonakakanfo:
This is exactly what i've been saying, the yorubas in kwara need to speak out.I have to disagree with modath on okun people.I've seen some okun people on facebook and some of them even want to be yoruba more than oduduwa,they even have groups.The same can't be said for kwarans.I don't really know much about edo state but i heard there are Yoruba communities there


Take a look at this

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/okun-yoruba-opt-to-join-south-west/173184/

How about the Olukumis and the Yoruba speaking groups of Delta North?

https://beegeagle./2010/05/01/indigenous-yoruba-and-igala-of-delta-northaniomaland/

superstar1:
Truckpusher and IlekeHD,
Both of you shuld find another for your luvy duvy oh.

Insult.

ProfShymex:
King Adeniji Adele has to be the most handsome king ever with swag. My nyggah right here!
Fleeeeeeeee!
https://www.omoyorubadfw.org/assets/Yoruba-Obas/Oba-of-Lagos-adeniji-adele-2.jpg

FINE BOY NO PIMPLES ALL SWAG

Is NL slow for anyone else?

Let me not wake up tomorrow and find the thread gone........ just like the ibadan thread

modath:
Our Okun family friends has bought a piece of land in Omuo Ekiti (boundary between Kogi & Ekiti) cos in his words " Eleda mi o ni je n ba gambari lo"


When i want to mess with them , i tell them we will dash them to the north & they promptly reject it vehemently..

The yoruba speaking part of Edo, Kwara & Kogi would rather become refugees in the main yoruba states than be carved out as Jara..

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

It's eye opening how they split Ekiti people into Kwara, Ondo, Ekiti etc...... If we want a divided NIgeria, our leaders need to start thinking about which lands belongs to us.

Truckpusher:
Stop derailing

My friend will you gerrarrahere?

Profshymex,

Please make this thread explosive with the greatest Yoruba man that ever lived: Awolowo

ProfShymex:
Woow. This girl is growing fast and she's now taller than a diplomat.

Just keep her away from those up North and anyone with the pikeys' legends (Zik of Onitsha and Ojukwu) tendencies. I don't want to hear that an emir with rags on his head has paid her bride price...or some old geezer wants to marry her.

Great she lives in America where she can be protected from vultures.

We're not worried about this. She's a Yoruba breed, the galaxy is her limit

Truckpusher:
Gerarahia menh.

You're changing monikers like pant....smh

So you wear the same blouse everyday?

^^^ when was this?

It's something, but it's not much. At all.

Truckpusher:

I do look at myself everyday and I love what I see.

zimoni:
There are some of them here. I don't know why they've avoided this thread like plague.

God help them.

lol Jarus is the only one I remember.

Mojola Agbebi (1860–1917) was a Nigerian Yoruba Baptist minister. He was formerly named David Brown Vincent, but during the wave of African nationalism in the late 1880s, he changed his name. Agbebi was a strong advocate of indigenous leadership for African churches. He initiated evangelistic work in Yorubaland and in the Niger Delta.

So he brought truckpusher's people outta their cavemen ways

modath:
I just pity the TonyeBarcanista handle, the mentions go don catch fire... ... Told him before that he has succeeded in doubling up antagonists..

Human being & self interest; INSEPARABLE

Watching everything unfold is hilarious!

This thread personifies the real east.