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Kaycee7:
👀👀 forgettable story is not the same as story you forgot. I also remember every plotline from Arcane's story.

Exactly- you think so, I don't agree with you 🤷🏽‍♂️, I think it's a mid storyline just like every league of Legends game plotline - great characters - mid story unlike games with great plots like the Last of Us and GTA V. finalizar

abduleez1:
It's actually 65 countries. I just round up the number.

Well, you can blame Max slow roll out. They have many distribution agreements in many regions globally that they can't release Max there until the deal elapses. Although, for some, WBD ain't too bothered about a fast rollout eg Africa and Middle East, parts of South East Asia. They're okay with licensing only HBO content and keeping the cash from the deal.

They're not even available in UK, Ireland, Germany, Italy, Austria, Switzerland (some of the biggest markets) and a few others cos of the Sky Europe deal. They just got available in France and Poland just this May/June. The Sky deal elapses end of 2025. So there's gonna be a bigger roll out in most of Europe in 2026.

Max has shelved plans to launch in India in the nearest future and instead do licensing deals for HBO content cos there's hardly any profitability in that region.

They were gunning for a faster rollout across the major markets but the Discovery merger with WB slowed things down with Zaslav focusing on profitability rather than subscriber count. And it seems to have worked for them. They're the only profitable streaming business in the world asides Netflix. Disney+ just gained profitability this last quarter despite starting before HBOMax and having over 130mn subs. Max is still way more profitable than Disney plus with an almost double Average Revenue Per User (ARPU).

HBO distribution is in the hands of DStv in Africa. I don't see them having plans for here till like 2027-28 sef if not till 2030.

They have mostly focused their eyes on parts of Europe and almost all of Latin America and the US. Canada and Australia no get Max sef.

It's a gradual process for them but profitability above subscriber count. But by 2027 they would have rolled out in most of the major markets worldwide.

Exactly- Max is really profitable esp because there main money still comes from HBO - Imagine the money they'll make when the Harry Potter series comes out and they're giving streaming rights to Netflix and the others😂

OhBritannia:
'The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power' season 3 is in the works.
Amazon is still committed to the show's 5-season plan

Via @THR

This will eventually end up a cult classic.

Bro lord of the rings has its fanbase already, cult classics are for original movies/series
The reason Amazon is keen is because they've spent a billion getting the rights to lotd already, do you think they're just going to dump it - besides it's still getting a decent amount of views🤷🏽‍♂️ - Reacher is raking more views than it and even Fallout that just came out

Kaycee7:
So doesn't this mean Blue Eye Samurai has forgettable characters?

👀👀 forgettable characters is not the same thing as characters with forgettable names- I remember every character from blue eye Samurai but not their names

abduleez1:
I can easily mention up to 7-10 characters in Vinland Saga, a Japanese anime but I'm struggling to even mention the protagonist of Blue Eye Samurai — something I watched months ago. How the fvvk is that not forgettable? If its over a year ago and more its understandable.
About Tik Tok, I don't use the app. So I can't say the tons of hype and discourse I see regularly on Arcane is even from the platform. I'm not even a League of Legends fan or a hardcore gamer to begin with.

You also said you saw "thousands" of negative videos about Arcane.... surely it won't be that hard to find ain't it??

Bro, there're a lot of movies I love but can't remember the character's name at all - movies like Shawshank redemption, gladiator, ocean's eleven - and this are movies that are really memorable to me. Sometimes the characters names are not even said as much : it doesn't necessarily mean it's not memorable.

OhBritannia:
‘THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE RINGS OF POWER’ season 2 has already received 40M views in just 11 days.

Already one of the top 5 most watched seasons of a TV show on Prime Video.

Bro it lost 64% of its first season audience, what are you saying and on a billion dollar budget Check again

Kaycee7:
So I hope you also see why your claim holds no water.

How does it not hold any claim?👀 Because it's my opinion or what?

abduleez1:
Lol, Arcane is popular cos of Tik Tok. Lmao. This one na big reach. Tik Tok that wasn't really a thing until the last two years.

All these talk is recency bias. While Blue Eye Samurai is very good, I don't see it topping Arcane.

Blue Eye Samurai that just aired some months ago and I can't remember a single name of any character in it. But for Arcane I still remember at least 4 characters' names despite 3 yrs now.

Wait! What??😂😂😂 TikTok wasn't a thing in 2020- the place where people where having 50 million subscribers in months and everyone was on TikTok because of the virus. I can't count how many edits of that Arcane younger sister I saw on TikTok and YouTube at that time.
Talking of blue eye Samurai, you can forget the names of the character esp because they're not even English but you can't forget what the story is about and besides that's how modern streaming series are right now tho. We just haven't spent enough time with the characters to remember their names, that isn't a story problem. There was a time when a season of a show was 16-24 episodes- it'ld look like it was part of our lives 🤷🏽‍♂️ so I don't think it matters if you don't remember the characters name🤷🏽‍♂️

Baddestguyp:
It's a common thing with most Western animation except The Last Airbender and Korra.

They are just too short and their events don't stand out in the long run. Praised but their plotlines are easily forgettable.

Most anime don't run into this problem because they are mostly divided into arcs, so it's easier to recall what happened in each arc...e.g Jujutsu Kaisen, Demon Slayer etc...
Even Chainsawman S1 was far more memorable than Arcane

No one discusses Arcane online, they just praise it and remember it as being good.

Exactly

Kaycee7:
If I told you there were thousands of videos saying how mediocre the story of Breaking Bad is, would you agree and accept that it's overhyped?

Like always - acceptance is relative - not everyone would agree.

abduleez1:
I'd say its a matter of just you.

I clearly remember most of what went down in ARCANE S2 even tho it's been two years now.
Arcane isn't hype one bit. It's so fvvking good.

Arcane can jostle and beat any animation of the last five years and win. I'd even classify it amongst AOT, JJK, Cyberpunk Edgerunners, Blue Eye Samurai etc.


I always regularly see Arcane hype and anticipation even before netflix announced its upcoming season few months ago.

Oga not just me🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️ there're thousands of video saying how mediocre the arcane story is. The animation is excellent - even the story is well told but the story is very forgettable. It's over hyped bro- most of the reason Arcane is really popular is TikTok trends, you can't compare the story of Blue Eye Samurai to Arcane because of how interesting and really original the story is

GloriousGbola:
My man Abduleez1 doesn't lean west na. So westoganda shows don't work for him

The western movie propaganda My guy is 101% behind is American kn-ockers.

Seeing as Chinese chicks don't have kn-ockers

Do you know that if you search Chinese women big boobs - it will show you AI generated girls with big boobs instead of actual Chinese women😂

Kaycee7:
This is a whole lotta of words just to basically say you think a show is overhyped or overrated.

😂😂😂😂 I hate to say it but you're right.

Kaycee7:
In 2 months, we witness GREATNESS!!!

Vi with the gauntlets. We're definitely getting another fight scene for the history books

I might be over-stretching but I think Arcane is just like Avatar (the blue one) - it’s highly hyped and praised for a few months and after some months - no one even remembers the story or even re-inact plot by plot timelines very well despite how popular it becomes. No offense

Baddestguyp:
I didn't hear anybody complain about ARCANE being posted here...

But if na japanese anime, you'll see them troupe out...

Yet they'll claim it isn't racism

It's not racism brother👀, it's just ignorance- any piece of art that's not Hollywood - it's immediately categorised as mediocre, it's not your fault they're just dumb

DirectorMakins:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qwUEqeqDDk

Have you seen this film?
The best Yoruba film ever produced.

Sir, this is not Facebook 👀

abduleez1:
Despite how popular Wizard of Oz is, I don't still see any $1bn in it.
Bruv, this movie Wicked goes against Gladiator II the same day and 5 days later takes on Moana 2. How you're still optimistic about $1bn is funny to me.

Bro, anything is possible. I never said it'ld make a billion, i said it had the potential to

abduleez1:
No offense but I don't see WICKED doing a billion.
It would have to do impossible numbers to be able to reach that milestone.
I know it's a very popular musical but I don't seeing it being enough for that worldwide gross. It'd most likely over-index in North America and some European countries but I don't see it juice up to $1bn. The best case scenario I see for it with mad performance is $700mn-800mn+ worldwide.

In fact, I'd pick Joker Folie Á Deaux a possible billion dollar film over Wicked.
Why?
*It's done it before. Has more credibility to do it than Wicked. Wicked also has a massive competitor to face in Disney's MOANA 2 a few weeks after release. They'd justle for same audience. So that movie is definitely gonna impact Wicked's gross.

*Lady Gaga also brings her own set of fans to the DC brand. That's a new fanbase that would probably replenish the lost steam Joker might have garnered.
Joker is also leaning on a mix of musical too.

*The addition of a new Harley Quinn iteration is also a big draw. Every ardent DC fan knows Harley Quinn is easily the highest selling female comic book character in terms of merchandise. In fact she's regarded as DC's third pillar, Wonder Woman doesn't even come close and she even outsells Superman. And she's very very popular with girls, t£enage girls at that.

*The Joker is also the most popular and recognisable CBM villain of all time. So there's that. We've seen before @dults are willing to go out enmasse to watch what they want regardless of no kids demography since COVID ie Top Gun: Maverick, The Batman, Dune Part 2, Venom 1&2.

This movie is also almost as controversial as the first. So more juice of the same.

So there's many variables at play for these two movies. Don't be quick to write Joker off. The same way you can bring many PROS for Wicked, I can do same for Joker 2.

Although, I see Joker 2 doing $720-850mn. It has better chances of doing a billion than Wicked. The only advantage I see for Wicked here is cos of it's PG rating.

Of course, joker has a better deal but I sincerely don’t see it getting to a billion at all. Maybe because you don’t know how popular The Wizard of Oz franchise is.
Most people don't go to the movies in some parts of America like Kansas and other mid West States - the movie would do exceedingly well there because it's nostalgic : the last wizard of Oz movie was in the 1930s. It would bring old folks and children to the movies.
I don't even know how to explain further. Let's see how it goes

DieRich5:
I ain't DC fanboy but joker is different from those shit DC movies.

Joker 2019 hit $1b and won 2 Oscars with that little hype

Joker 2024 hype is higher than the last one and it's has lady Gaga as the main female character also the success of the last one will definitely make people wanna watch it more



Let see who will win the $1b mark between Wicked and joker 2.

Little hype keh??

abduleez1:
I don even tire to dey find scary horror movies anymore. My own now is good storytelling or great movie overall.

What movie has actually scared you🤔

DieRich5:
So D.vs.W can't overtake inside out 2

Which movie will top 2024 chart

For me: it's either joker or the lion king and Moana 2 will come close because of Dwayne Johnson but will be 3rd for rankings this year.

You must be either ignorant or a DC crazy fan to think Joker would make a billion again not to talk of getting close to D&W.
The only movie this year that’ld reach inside out 2 is Moana just because of how popular it is on Disney+. Another movie no one is talking about that has a better potential of making a billion easily is Wicked - it's the most popular musical not just in the US but in Asia & Europe. Les Miserables that's not as popular made more than Dune Part Two.
Why Wicked could make a billion
1. Ariana Grande 🤷🏽‍♂️ - She's releasing new music with the movie. Girls will certainly watch the movie multiple times just to be part of the conversation.
2. It's a movie mostly for females - there are not a lot of blockbusters for females and when they're - they make it big (Barbie)- it could be another Barbie.
3. THE Broadway show has made billions of dollars and the highest grossing Broadway musical of all times.
4. It's also centred for children - the bright colours and really moral themes are great for children🔥🔥

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6COmYeLsz4c?si=hX_0sbd34XEjC5im

Kaycee7:
Could be a sign to move on to new hobbies

That's impossible! I can't even bear the thought of that😂.

abduleez1:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EaEllq5FLk?si=FzUUXzA4j7J4w8VX

Oyaskii, I feel these will be right up your alley. ✌🏽👀

What are your 5 most anticipated movies left for the year 🤔 because it looks like the remainder is absolutely stacked!

5. Joker
4. Nosferatu
3. We Live in Time
2. Moana (just because I'm sure it'll be really close to 2bn or even more considering how popular it's on Disney all through the years)
1. Gladiator 2

abduleez1:
Lol, the worst misinformation you can think of at the bolded.
Go and check out STUDIO GHIBLI movies and sin no more. Masterpiece upon masterpiece is all they deliver.
There are also lots of anime movies from other studios too. Most of the anime inspiration Hollywood tapped from for their movie ideas are mostly from the anime movies.

Inception (from PAPRIKA),
The Matrix ( from GHOST IN THE SHELL),
Black Swan (from PERFECT BLUE),
Looper (from AKIRA),
Avatar (from PRINCESS MONONOKE)
Requiem for a Dream (PERFECT BLUE)
Pacific Rim (from GUNDAM & ULTRAMAN)
Lion King. (KIMBA THE WHITE LION)
Van Helsing (from VAMPIRE HUNTER D for costumes and production design).

So that's a list of top tier anime films I've recommended to you already.

I'm somehow also waiting till I see someone to share me the One Piece anime make I just collect too.
Na now I remember say I been get one of my guy wey get that collection a year ago. 🤔

Omo guy I've watched almost every Ghibli movie - what I mean is there're not just a lot of them and they don't make them like they used to

I found this too funny not to share here😂😂😂. Looks like I've a chance Inn the acting industry😂

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2BKT-8FD4s?si=xI5_639LQOOp5gWE

Gidah:
Rings or power is not that bad ,the story is getting more interesting,And getting to know Sauron better from the one from lord of the rings

Most of the people who hate the show online have not even watched an episode👀
Besides- I watched the first episode even though I never finished s1 and it still sucks balls😪.
Any way, keep up the good work

Baddestguyp:
Watch good anime.

There’re only good anime series not movies. And since AOT finished - I decided to end my anime journey until I see someone who already has One Piece pre-downloaded for me to collect

Ami the only one who finds it difficult to watch movies or series now? Or I'm just investing my time in boring shows lately 😩

Baddestguyp:
Didn't even waste my data on a single Episode of season 2.

I don't have much faith in the writers

I heard the episodes are just two people talking😂, Amazon has invested billions already so no stopping them now

BlackManta:
Now that I have seen the other names on the list, I'm suprised that Josh Brolin is the first actor they considered

Because all these actors will fit Hal Jordan better than Josh Brolin

I hope he declines

Did Chris Pine not play wonder woman's lover one time?

Sometimes I think this movies with huge budgets like this is a money laundering scheme or it’s just to pay the over 50 highly acclaimed set to star in this movie

Sooo Looong👀