winner01:
If the world was meaningless and purposeless as atheists preach, no one would value truth above falsehood.

What you have shown is that "there is such a thing as value, and almost every human agrees".

Value does not come from meaninglessness and purposelessness. Something in you values truth. That is enough proof that you were created and did not just evolve from chaos.

some people prefer to take shelter in Jesus [who if existed is totally decomposed to ordinary dirt] . I tell u this, it is easier to live in truth than conjure up a savior everyday [at least it is this way in my life, I can't say for others. you seem learned to an extent. brace up and consider your Bible through, then find its defense and criticisms, then do the same for the koran. you can try budhism[total waste of effort]. at the end I hope u become a winner, a truly learned one. good luck to you

winner01:
Do you absolutely believe everything you are told or read, even when those who wrote them were not present "millions" of years ago?

carbon isotopes decay at an approximately steady rate. the decay residues are used to estimate death date of fossils. these methods are accurate to days for hundreds of year old fossil. older fossils may be quite de natured this is accounted in accuracy of readings. Ps: before you say I'm gullible remember you believe the Bible just by faith. please stop derailing

winner01:
The number of christians in china are about 9 times more than those in Nigeria, and china is not close to being wrecked

it's good to speak in terms of national proportion . try to keep to proving genesis. no derailing pls

winner01:
I will till I leave this world, and millions of people will join me.

if you have such power to wreck my nigeria further. I am willing to keep discussing if you want to prove the date of creation by Bible is correct. derail one more time [you derailed to lucifer getting cast away] and I'll know you're just a waste of time

winner01:
lol, I did not say the Bible is incomplete, I said we assume the the genealogies of the Bible are complete. Of course they cant be. The Bible is not an history book.

You didnt answer my question. The earth was in existence before the devil was cast down. So in which year/generation was the devil cast down from Heaven?.

So you have faith that nothing happened over the years to affect the process of fossilization or you just have faith that the archeologists who desperately want atheism to be true are acting in your favour by telling you the whole truth.

keep on in your christ-'ianity' if you like

winner01:
Assuming the geneaologies are complete, in which year/generation was the devil cast down from Heaven?.

Carbon dating is inaccurate, you cant conclude that nothing happened over the years to affect the fossilization process.

accurate enough to prove the Genesis story false. did u just say the Bible is incomplete? the Bible said there are 40 generations then listed them. the accuracy is not 100. but accounting for the accuracy is a PLUS or minus stillway larger than Bible claims.

winner01:

check your Bible. count the ancestors of jesus from Adam to Noah, Noah to David then David to Jesus add 2016. about 40 generations in each of these step. let's assume they lived on 400 years on average. 40*3*400+2016. the Bible in hence purported that the world existed for about 50,016 years. the oldest fossils by carbon dating range from 2 billion years. humanoid bone fossils 6 million years.

winner01:

I can give you a hint count the generations to Jesus by genealogy

my only congratulations to you is that this gets front page. mynd44 you're done. this is war

ladyF:
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winner01:
Strawman na their middle name

when do we trace the origin of the world by the bible

lexiconkabir:
Ilovetheline why are you interested in the mattera of islam even tho you are not a Muslim?

Just a question....

I have an interest in just about everything

Eshinwaju:
I foresee a near future....where Islam will be the religion of ibo people... ...a lot of them are converting already and this will further national unity...

how about the other way round. And what if islam is wrong. Check Muslim countries and very nearby; the gap between the northern top and middle classes

ImperialYoruba:
Assallamalekun to all my Ibo people

u're welcome . are you for us or against us or neutral. PS it is igbo

cktheluckyman:
This is what we igbo call "nro iba" otherwise called malaria dream

by the book they are about 10000already. Far from insignificant

There may be a generation of 30% igbos muslim. What is your view. The pdf version of the referred book is available on the lives and challenges of Igbo Muslims and the Islamic outreach to igboland
Seun mynd44
The umunna want to meet on your platform. This is not meant to be antiislamic. Front page please
Reference: being a muslim in igboland; Mohammad ikechi

what does Islam teach of non-Muslims who do not ascribe to these laws[how are they to be treated, even in the hearts of muslims]. are they different as for non-Muslims who ascribe to similar laws

olaitoro:

my brother is that your opnion ?

well nairaland is bigger and better than punchforum, what do you think egbon

it is.

MasterRahl:
Bro, you cracked me up . I read your comment then took a second look at the title of this thread. Guess what happened? My phone nearly fell out of my hand.

of course

olaitoro:
one thing about c. ronaldo is that he is great player but messi plays better than him.

sometime c.ronaldo can be an exceptional player in a game but still messi is the best.

mikel obi is still coming up, hope he will shouw his dexterity and prowess in this rio 2016 gathering.

obasanjo would have been a great player had it been he was a football.

finally, barca will win the champions league.


any refuttal of the above points should be forwarded to the appropriate quarters for clearity and kowashiation.

thank you comrades

go on. nairaland is for u guys

cckris:

30% Igbo Moslems will overthrow the Sultan & appoint Igbo Emirs.

thanks for your opinion (nonigbo)

Islam violent or not has a prospect of being global [try prove me wrong] if there is a generation of us that be overrun(30% of Igbos muslim) what do you have to say?

I recall monarchs killing subjects for not submitting all by their grains. #isthisdemocracy

I recall monarchs killing subjects fir not submitting by heir grains. #isthisdemocracy

Seun:
Would you support the idea of making the teaching of hatred and intolerance and violence illegal under Nigerian law regardless of the religion or sect of the teacher? And making it obligatory for those who witness such teachings to report them to the authorities?

call it what you will. such a law will be good for mixed nigeria. in Biafra we will live by truth. Islam is dangerous and stagnating[preaches a hand off approach to life ie: do nothing than fend food on earth]. teaches western progress is absolutely evil[ask around]. your suggestions is simply anti Igbo because it is a grounded belief of Igbos you are proposing to make illegal [if someone came up with a stupid religion like an eat dung religion, people have their rights to say it is wrong] Ps worthy of reply. but of course... overlook wisdom if u wish

lexiconkabir:


Funny enough, I've fogotten that i once had a discussion with you, after reading the first line, i quickly remembered the thread of a Christian that was at the verge of dumping Christianity, right?

true story

lexiconkabir:


Yep you are welcome. Islamic teachings frowns at discrimination, if you dont mind me asking, which part of the east are you from?

you of all should know for certain I'm not a Muslim. but indeed I have read my koran [a koran through and again]. Ps you didn't complete our last conversation

Contact17:


You are more than welcome *spreads red carpet and throws flowers*

don't be laughing at. I have good contributions as I have attempted to master what th koran says

logicab:
Oh, so it's only your family members you feel empathy for? No wonder!

clearly you are not Igbo. my bad

logicab:
Oh, and on the first coup (January 1966), you have Ifeajuna and this co-travelers to thank for where we find ourselves. Obasanjo, Buhari, Babangida, Abacha...we will probably never have heard of these names if not for their misadventure in January 1966. And the man who thinks they were nationalistic isn't well acquainted with History or logic. The pattern of the coup in several ways pointed at Azikiwe (who was conveniently out of the country at the time of execution and was Ifeajuna's cousin). The story of helping the South West many people regurgitate is simply the lies sold to the only Yoruba amongst them - Ademoyega; and who was the only one to live long enough to tell his side of the story. Maimalari, Ademulegun (and his pregnant wife) and several other high ranking soldiers where murdered in their bedrooms. Were they politicians?

Someone said the NCOs used to execute the coup were mostly Northerners. It appears you don't know what the military is about. Your superiors issue commands, and they are supposed to not follow those commands? Are you aware of the Yoruba soldier Nzeogwu personally shot for not carrying out his orders when he attacked the Sardauna's Palace?

according to nzeogwu all his men consented to be involved. I doubt he was lying about this

logicab:
When all fails use this:



Specially for you and your mother. Insert you FIST up your cvnt, if it smells fishy you may need a carton.

there were problems with the coup. perhaps the coup had zik(he deserved not to die, maybe awo as well) excluded. but don't publish these on the Internet. these things just give anti Igbo sentiments to brush through readers. Ps: I like the way you think. hope u're igbo