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PoliticsRe: From ₦12 Trillion To ₦200 Trillion: ADC Tracks APC's Fiscal Disaster by Image123(m): 8:43pm On Jul 29, 2025
DeepSight:
Do you know where the saying "Napoleon is always right" comes from, and who was saying it?
Errrrr, "is always right" is English. You don't need to read a book or know where it's coming from. Anyway, i assumed it can be from Animal Farm or the famous Bonaparte. Either way, my point and practicality is clear irregardless of innuendoes.
PoliticsRe: Peter Obi's Donations For Social Intervention From Jan To July 2025 by Image123(m): 8:35pm On Jul 29, 2025
TechAI:
Ibadan is in Anambra. abi? See below.
January to July 2025, read the topic of discussion. Plus he's the chancellor of the mushroom school you put off whose leadership is filled with igbos. It's just typical.

https://www.dui.edu.ng/principal-officers
PoliticsRe: Peter Obi's Donations For Social Intervention From Jan To July 2025 by Image123(m): 8:33pm On Jul 29, 2025
DIVINEEVIDENCE:
So Peter Obi only started donations in January 2025?
Ask statisense. A nationalist would know better than being so embarrassingly tribalistic. You should be ashamed for him more than i am.
PoliticsRe: Peter Obi's Donations For Social Intervention From Jan To July 2025 by Image123(m):
They say that a fool and his money are soon parted. When a politician doesn't know simple straightforward ways to fund his election. How can he know proper budgeting. His love for the South West where his wife and daughter prefer to work and live is glaring for the blind to see.
His inner caucus follows him everywhere on planes but no shi shi for election logistics and party representatives. They're not even enough to cover the 774 lgas or have a proper situation room. Na to do gofundme and mismanage am.
PoliticsRe: From ₦12 Trillion To ₦200 Trillion: ADC Tracks APC's Fiscal Disaster by Image123(m): 5:02pm On Jul 29, 2025
Kukutente23:
Ah!!
Imagine the image you're projecting
So it was not good to remove subsidy when the economy was much better?
So which team has stopped stealing FAAC, SWF and ECA? How much was ECA in 2015 and how much is it now?
How much is FAAC now and where's the impact?
Diaris God ooooo
It's called political will and clout. If Tinubu wants to sell Nigeria today, he knows how to get the majority on his side to support it. GEJ's CBN governors, ministers, governors and legislative were not in agreement with him and his cabal. NOI, Sanusi and Amaechi the head of NGF forum all came out to complain about humongous corruption in the government. Not to mention what opposition had to say. Ask your state government what happened to the kobos he's received from FAAC this year and how much.
PoliticsRe: From ₦12 Trillion To ₦200 Trillion: ADC Tracks APC's Fiscal Disaster by Image123(m): 4:57pm On Jul 29, 2025
DeepSight:
Lol, Mr. "Napoleon is always right."
Lolz, Napoleon must borrow or where do you want him to get money for your wants?
PoliticsRe: From ₦12 Trillion To ₦200 Trillion: ADC Tracks APC's Fiscal Disaster by Image123(m): 4:56pm On Jul 29, 2025
Kukutente23:
So where are the good roads, rail, schools, hospitals and good salaries? Or are they also in the plan?
And stop insulting yourself
MTEF is determined by the size of govt deficit. So it's not just a plan. It's a plan on how to fix the deficit
Okay sir.
PoliticsRe: Some Nigerians Are Unappreciative - Onanuga Defends Tinubu's Falcons Rewards by Image123(m): 2:43pm On Jul 29, 2025
This man don go talk again. Be presidential na, no be every radio matter president spokesman dey get opinion. Leave this kain talk to your foot soldiers.
PoliticsRe: From ₦12 Trillion To ₦200 Trillion: ADC Tracks APC's Fiscal Disaster by Image123(m): 2:10pm On Jul 29, 2025
fuckingAyaya:
during Jonathan's tenure you people at Ojota didn't tell us this. Jonathan took the blame alone so why trying to exonerate bulaba?
Who are you people? Even GEJ has moved on but you keep whining about your failures of over a decade? This is the difference between a leader that has will (political will) and clout and doesn't cower in the face of tough decisions. Also, timing matters than action in some cases. Removing a pot from the cooker 10 minutes ago may result in eating poorly cooked food, compared to removing it now. Same action, different time.
Maybe the people who didn't want subsidy removed in 2012 were not convinced of the need to remove it then. GEJ team was also busy stealing away everything from FAAC to SWF to ECA to FX reserves, according to the government officils that worked with him.
Christianity EtcRe: Bible Challenge: To Prove That Trinity Is Falsehood by Image123(m): 2:03pm On Jul 29, 2025
Steep:
while I don't think full knowledge of the theology of the Trinity is neccesary, but however, there is tremendous gain in the knowledge of the trinity.
The gospel itself is Trinitarian in nature, God the father sent his Son so that any one who believe in the Son would be saved then there follows the witness of the holy Spirit.


Though one might not understand the theology of the trinity yet when they respond to the gospel the accept the trinity. How? By accepting Jesus as God's son who died; when there is a Son there is a father. Secondly, by putting their faith in Jesus it means Jesus is reliable meaning Jesus is more than a man as only God is absolutely reliable.

Anyone who rejects the deity of Jesus can not absolutely put their trust in him hence cannot be saved.

Anyone who is truly saved cannot knowingly deny the deity of christ because it contradicts his salvation.

Yet the father and The Son are Spoken as distinct persons in the gospel yet both are God.
Anyone who has the holy spirit in him would know instinctively that the holy Spirit is not just a force but he is more and because of the way Jesus spoke about the holy Spirit he is a person.

Talking about relationship with God, for a good and healthy relationship with God one must know to a great extent the doctrine of the trinity, the book of 1 John addresses that.

Spiritual growth and maturity comes from deeper knowledge of God which include the doctrine of the trinity.
Thank you, i do not speak of deeper knowledge or maturity. i speak of the basics of being saved, living as a child of God and preparing for eternity. You don't need deeper knowledge or maturity to be saved, you need faith. You don't need deeper knowledge or maturity to live, you need it to grow. And of course any child of God will spend eternity with God regardless of maturity and deep knowledge. A great percent of the old testament saints and those who met Him physically in the gospels did not know He is God.
PoliticsRe: From ₦12 Trillion To ₦200 Trillion: ADC Tracks APC's Fiscal Disaster by Image123(m): 1:25pm On Jul 29, 2025
Reference:
Is MTEF the bible or some holy book that must be obeyed. Is it not the government that decided MTEF.

What they are saying is that the debt burden has become an existential threat to the survival of the country. The debt is fuelling the inflation that drives poverty and the result of poverty is worsening insecurity.

The government should find the ways and means to develop this country internally. And this starts by a radical change in the way it operates.

It should cease wasteful spending on unproductive so called legacy projects, trim to the barest minimum it's appetite for the award of contracts for all manner of things, rather effect the bulk of it's projects by direct labour and commercial partnerships.

And begin to implement the Oransanye report to trim government size. Our recurrent expenditure does not tally with the reality of our economy.

These are the ways to START a debt free life.
The MTEF is a borrowing plan, it's not likely to be borrowed but just a good way to plan just in case. Nigeria cannot attempt to be debt free at the moment. We don't make enough compared to what we need and spend, simple facts. As we speak, the US government is asking for voluntary contributions to help pay its debts. You can't need good roads, healthcare, rail, schools, hospitals and good salaries and not borrow in Nigeria's condition.
PoliticsPeter Obi Has Just Released Another Lie That President Tinubu Intends To Borrow by Image123(op): 11:20am On Jul 29, 2025
Peter Obi Has Just Released Another Lie That President Tinubu Intends To Borrow $21 Billion

At about 7:30 AM on Tuesday, July 29, 2025, Peter Obi released a statement filled with lies, innuendoes, and half-truths. The gist of the statement was that President Bola Tinubu is about to borrow $21 billion and skyrocket Nigeria's debt.

Mr. Obi's post shows that he is economically illiterate and does not have sufficient knowledge of how the economy works. This is no big surprise; we recently saw his very disappointing WASCCE result, along with his Second-Class degree in Philosophy. So, his lack of depth is understandable. He is a trader, not a leader.

The Senate of the National Assembly did not approve "an additional $21 billion, €2.2 billion, ¥15 billion of external borrowing for the 2025–2026 fiscal cycle". That is a lie from a man described as 'Gbajue' by Nigeria's only Nobel laureate, Professor Wole Soyinka.

What the Senate approved is a Medium-Term Expenditure Framework (MTEF).

President Bola Tinubu is not about to borrow $21 billion, €2.2 billion, ¥15 billion. That is a figment of the intellectually undeveloped mind of Peter.

The MTEF contains the borrowing plan for both the Federal and State Governments for the next three years.

In other words, the $21 billion is what the Federal Government and the 36 states can borrow over the next three years—not what they will borrow, but what they can borrow. They are not even likely to take those loans. It is just a framework for what is possible.

For example, while the MTEF provides for extensive borrowings in 2025, only $1.23 billion will actually be borrowed. And that $1.23 billion will be borrowed by both the Federal and state governments from all geopolitical zones.

The MTEF only shows possible borrowing that Nigeria is entitled to based on agreements with our external borrowing partners, which must align with the Fiscal Responsibility Act 2007 and the Debt Management Office. (Establishment) Act 2003.

The Borrowing Rolling Plan ties possible borrowings by the Federal and State Governments to specific projects.

For actual borrowings, Nigerians should look at the budgets of both the Federal and State Governments.

Citizens of Nigeria must note that Peter Obi is a liar. He is desperate to be President of Nigeria, and because he lacks economic depth, he will resort to lies.

One of his recent lies was his claim that President Bola Tinubu had borrowed more money than Presidents Yar'adua, Jonathan, and Buhari combined.

I had to appear on Channels TV to present documentary evidence showing that he lied and that the President has reduced Nigeria's debt from the $113.7 billion he inherited from General Buhari to $97.1 billion today.

Be careful with this man. When he lies, he speaks his native language.

Reno Omokri
https://x.com/renoomokri/status/1950104904938246593?t=a98JPOmKcbq0dArSQgnk2A&s=19
Christianity EtcRe: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by Image123(m): 11:07am On Jul 29, 2025
FreeIgboho:
There is no "ability and will to make decisions" without your brain. There is no "decide to listen or not listen" without your brain. It all ends with the brain, the brain and it's programming that you had no hand in.
If I had different brain, genes, circumstances, and experiences (none of which I chose) I'd be a totally different person all together - maybe Dangote or an armed robber, which I'd not have chosen. Please, where's freewill hiding in all that?
i have decided not to reply you for a minimum of one week. That's free will. Good morning.
PoliticsRe: ADC Will Collapse In Three Months, Says Ali Modu Sheriff by Image123(m): 8:51am On Jul 29, 2025
The same people who believed this guy 100% when he says that the Igbos are the majority population in Lagos, will foam in the mouth and have fits over this harmless prediction of his. Mob
PoliticsRe: From ₦12 Trillion To ₦200 Trillion: ADC Tracks APC's Fiscal Disaster by Image123(m): 8:47am On Jul 29, 2025
fuckingAyaya:
where's subsidy money? Oh sorry it was used for infrastructures. Like renovating ICC with 36billions, something built with 200million
What subsidy money? Are you aware that the Federal Government (FG) and state governments share revenue allocations from the Federation Account Allocation Committee (FAAC) every month?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by Image123(m): 8:45am On Jul 29, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
At this point, even if you slap him with this. He still cries, "no freewill". It's futile. He has formed his dogmatic conclusion, impervious to reason and scripture!

He wants to believe what he wants to believe!
If you like use biblical verses that highlight the actor exhibiting his free will, he will still see "No free will". It's an observer bias. One that is false, and negates the coexistence of pre-determined systems and free will!

Good luck🐌, trying to convince him 😅👋.
cheesy cheesy
PoliticsRe: From ₦12 Trillion To ₦200 Trillion: ADC Tracks APC's Fiscal Disaster by Image123(m): 8:38am On Jul 29, 2025
mrvitalis:
What exactly is the misinformation here please

Just watch the bot won't say anything useful
The MTEF contains the borrowing plan for both the Federal and State Governments for the next three years. How much the federal government and the 36 states can borrow during the next three years. That is not the amount they will borrow. If the worst happens, they will be able to borrow $20.5 billion. Are you in the same room as lexy or the same person?
PoliticsRe: From ₦12 Trillion To ₦200 Trillion: ADC Tracks APC's Fiscal Disaster by Image123(m):
ADC should stop misinforming people. This is not the route to winning elections. The MTEF contains the borrowing plan for both the Federal and State Governments for the next three years.
PoliticsRe: Lagos State Was Never Nigeria's Capital - Reno Omokri by Image123(m): 8:25am On Jul 29, 2025
ycat:
This list doesn’t even matter, the non Yoruba on the list brought their businesses there because Yoruba created the enabling environment. Lagos was not the only former capital and hasn’t been the capital in over 34 years. Lagos is Yoruba ingenuity.
The point was to the fellow threatening to go to his village. The stats remind him of his insignificance in the scheme of things.
PoliticsRe: Nwifuru Suspends 87, Including 25 Commissioners For Missing Government Function by Image123(m): 8:23am On Jul 29, 2025
It's not Lagos, don't expect it to make it past the 4th page. The people of Ebonyi are more interested in Lagos, remember?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by Image123(m): 8:21am On Jul 29, 2025
FreeIgboho:
But that is still due to the type of brain they have, which they didn't choose, and it's conditioning over a lifetime, which they also had no hand in
Freewill doesn't involve choosing your kind of brain but ability and will to make decisions. You can decide to listen or not listen, that's free will.
SportsRe: Tinubu Confers National Honours, gifts cash, Houses To Super Falcons team by Image123(m): 8:19am On Jul 29, 2025
lexy2014:
as rational as you are, am surprised that you cant answer the simple questions.



Cheerful giver of what?

Is it his money he is giving?

What did you ask US, Mobil and Lagos?
As a bot, if you can't see what was given, there's no point engaging.
Christianity EtcRe: Bible Challenge: To Prove That Trinity Is Falsehood by Image123(m): 8:15am On Jul 29, 2025
Boomark:
Let me show you how people reject Christ because of trinity. Anyone who has rejected things Christ said because of their church doctrine has no business preparing for eternity or living as a child of God they have rejected.

I asked this my friend this question. Do you believe what Christ said in those scriptures? You can see how she called what the scripture of what Jesus said anything. She only agreed with me because she doesn't have time to debate.

It is like they are loyal to someone we don't know yet and that person is not Christ. No respect for his words anymore because it doesn't suit their doctrine.

Which eternity, or salvation or living like a child of God would anyone who has rejected Christ. She still didn't answer properly after everything because their mind has been turned against Christ. It was done in a subtle way so they don't realise it.

One pastor stopped reading a passage I told him to read and explain in Revelation. He got close to what we are looking for and stopped. I told him to continue but he refused and was busy telling me to stop opposing God. I was like why are people like this. Claiming right even in wrong deed.

I have another evangelist friend who could not tell the truth about something in a single verse. After correcting him, he said he doesn't want to continue discussing with me. That he made reference to what he knew somewhere and that if I don't want to take what he said I should leave it. Just see in the last picture what an adult evangelist explained. He is not an illiterate but they can lie and twist the word of God just to hold onto their doctrine. He told me this same thing that he is more interested in righteous and holiness. When he hasn't handled the things that can make him to lie any day any time.

And many more like that.
Nobody rejects Jesus because of Trinity or no Trinity. If there's any rejection, it's likely because of attitude and lack of clarity on your part or part of those arguing. Like i said, you have been unable to show the benefits of believing or not believing your doctrine that exceeds being saved, living as a child of God and preparing for eternity.
i liken it to being in a school and knowing the VC or lecturer's house and family. While it has its side benefits, no such knowledge and intimacy is required for the student to graduate. And it is more important to graduate as a student than to know your lecturer or VC's personal things. This is very similar. As i have stated, if you want to discuss about God on anything, create a thread, notify me, i'll see how to find time. It's up to you what you want to do with AI in the background. My faith is not built on people, events, AI and algorithms regardless of what they say.
SportsRe: Tinubu Confers National Honours, gifts cash, Houses To Super Falcons team by Image123(m): 8:07am On Jul 29, 2025
lexy2014:
Cheerful giver of what?

Is it his money he is giving?

What did you ask US, Mobil and Lagos?
Blinded by hate. The president is not obliged by any law to dole out awards, flats/apartment and money. If they ask your religion now, you'll probably say christian but your heart is so dark and filled with hatred because of politics. You can't even be rational again.
PoliticsRe: Lagos State Was Never Nigeria's Capital - Reno Omokri by Image123(m): 8:03am On Jul 29, 2025
Riskymarvelous:
just to remind you that if Igbo people carry their properties comot for Lagos go their State just know say nothing dey Lagos again than government properties I'm a yoruba guy so stop your tribalism bigot now
No tribe was mentioned, even the person talking claims to be of some Lukumi tribe. But typically, a chest beater must come out to make empty threats. The South East generates the least revenue in IGR and tax. Here are top businesses in Lagos, not to mention fintechs. But it's a free world.

PoliticsRe: No Heavyweights In ADC, Peter Obi Is Returning To PDP - Ali Modu Sheriff by Image123(m): 8:56pm On Jul 28, 2025
Seems like Atiku's plan all the way. That guy has been orphaned.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by Image123(m): 8:54pm On Jul 28, 2025
FreeIgboho:
This my thread. Search above
Gathering info and thinking is freewill. Ever been in a class where a smart student decided not to assimilate anything? Even on this thread, we're not all gathering all information provided. Some choose just to brush through, skip a bulk, a pick what they want.
Christianity EtcRe: Bible Challenge: To Prove That Trinity Is Falsehood by Image123(m): 8:44pm On Jul 28, 2025
Boomark:
Knowing God and Jesus Christ means eternal life. If people don't know them well, they will still join all these Idol worshipers and tell you it is the same God. I have heard it from them.

All the things you mentioned are good. So if we can have archives of treated matters then all the disagreement on opposing doctrines will reduce. We will all be going closer to become one. I will to be available whenever such discussions come up.


So are you ok with the rules? I don't understand what you meant by general thread. People will be allowed to say their minds on the main challenge thread after we have finished. This is to make it easy for everyone to see all the bible verses supporting our claims without any distraction.

This place will be used for general discussion until we are through.
Give me just one gain from believing or understanding that there's no trinity or there is, greater than being saved, living as a child of God and preparing for eternity. Thank you.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by Image123(m): 8:42pm On Jul 28, 2025
Boomark:
If there had been a bible challenge, this topic won't have gotten to over 40 pages. And still yet nobody knows the truth because everyone is posting whatever they want as the truth. It will continue like this. Even if we figure out the truth, those who have left already will only know what they know.

If we have the truth on the first 1 to 5 pages, then we direct people to it any time. All these post I post will not solve anything.
There'll continue to be arguments about doctrine till Jesus comes. If you want, you can open yet another thread for discussion.
SportsRe: Tinubu Confers National Honours, gifts cash, Houses To Super Falcons team by Image123(m): 8:40pm On Jul 28, 2025
Mandate1:
giving out our national money. Is the money his own?

I'm not against the govt rewarding people who raise our flag high, but truth be told, that money is just too much wastage. 150m each player. Pure wastage from a country paying 73000 minimum wage.
You'll be healed.
SportsRe: Tinubu Confers National Honours, gifts cash, Houses To Super Falcons team by Image123(m): 8:37pm On Jul 28, 2025
ALISMILE:
What about the police that are paid 2.8m after retirement.
They're more than 30 people, and increase in one segment triggers every other segment increase demand and inflation. You must have done business studies if you went to school.

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