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Politics › Re: Why Are Obidients Attacking Adeboye? Intolerance Is Becoming Too Loud To Ignore. by Image123(m): 8:48am On Jul 01
Ekpeitut:
That's a weak deflection.

Whether someone supports Peter Obi or not has nothing to do with the substance of the argument. The issue is whether Pastor Adeboye has applied the same level of public pressure to this administration as he did to previous ones.

If he has consistently asked every government to do better with the same urgency and intensity, then fine. But if his tone becomes noticeably softer when the government is led by someone he is perceived to be close to, people are entitled to question that.

Dragging Peter Obi into every criticism of Tinubu or Adeboye is simply a way of avoiding the real conversation.

As for calling Obi a "fraud runaway candidate," that's just political name-calling. It doesn't answer the criticism. If your defence of Adeboye depends on attacking another politician instead of addressing the point being raised, then you've already conceded the argument.
What level of public pressure, urgency or intensity do you refer to? What pressure did he put GEJ or fPMB to? He simply makes comments once in a while from his pulpit or programme. Meanwhile he openly endorsed and prayed for the same GEJ in ways he's never done for Tinubu. Recently, he gave Tinubu 90days or something. 2 days ago, he said things are worse and they've brought insecurity to him. What greater things did he do to GEJ. Did he shut down his government or campaign against him. Let me understand better.
Politics › Re: Why Are Obidients Attacking Adeboye? Intolerance Is Becoming Too Loud To Ignore. by Image123(m): 7:34am On Jul 01
BATified2023:
but oyedepo is a good man cos he's supporting obi right?
They can't say that. The agenda is clearly tribal for those who see. Wait for Sowore or that AriseTV OAP or Ednut or Oyedepo to cross line, then you'll hear the story of betrayal they really believe in.
Politics › Re: Why Are Obidients Attacking Adeboye? Intolerance Is Becoming Too Loud To Ignore. by Image123(m): 7:32am On Jul 01
Ekpeitut:
The issue is not that Pastor Adeboye expressed an opinion. The issue is that many Nigerians remember a time when he was far more vocal about the failures of previous governments. That is why his recent comments have attracted scrutiny.
You cannot build a reputation for speaking truth to power and then appear to lower the standard when your preferred leader is in office. Consistency is the foundation of moral authority.

When previous administrations struggled with insecurity, corruption, fuel scarcity, or economic hardship, Pastor Adeboye did not hesitate to call for urgent action and national repentance. Today, insecurity has become even more widespread, kidnappings have reached communities once considered safe, millions are battling unprecedented economic hardship, yet his public criticism appears noticeably restrained. Nigerians have every right to ask why.

Saying that the President only needs to give orders ignores the very essence of leadership. A Commander in Chief is not judged by the orders he gives but by the outcomes those orders produce. If insecurity continues to worsen, then leadership must be held accountable. That principle applied under previous governments and it must apply now.

It is ironic that some people who once applauded Adeboye for challenging those in power are now asking Nigerians not to question him. Respect for a pastor does not require silence in the face of apparent double standards. Public figures who comment on national issues should expect their past statements to be measured against their present ones.

Reducing every criticism to "Obidients are attacking him" is also misleading. Many of those questioning Pastor Adeboye are not doing so because of Peter Obi. They are doing so because they expect consistency from someone who has long been regarded as a moral voice in Nigeria.
This is not about tribe. It is not about religion. It is about credibility. If the standards used to judge former presidents are abandoned when the current president is involved, then people are justified in pointing out the inconsistency.

Nobody is above criticism, whether politician or pastor. The same courage required to speak against yesterday's government should exist today. Otherwise, people will inevitably conclude that the message changes depending on who occupies Aso Rock.
That is the real issue. Not ethnicity. Not political affiliation. Consistency.
Adeboye has consistently asked the government to do better. You're only pained because he's not openly supporting the fraud runaway candidate.

Politics › Re: Why Are Obidients Attacking Adeboye? Intolerance Is Becoming Too Loud To Ignore. by Image123(m): 7:23am On Jul 01
oyichi:
That man's reputation has gone south, this administration revealed who he really is, an insincere, double standard in judgement, fake character who is just out there for his extreme flamboyant life style, to call this one a pastor is an insult to Christianity
You that your reputation is skyrocketing, we can see where you are in life na. Everyone that doesn't support your fraud is evil. Na you and that failure be standard. Can you imagine? If na even better person like say Donald Duke all these madness dey happen, we for try understand. We'll not bow to terrorism, you'd lose again.
Politics › Re: Why Are Obidients Attacking Adeboye? Intolerance Is Becoming Too Loud To Ignore. by Image123(m): 7:17am On Jul 01
BOOZELEE:
I am not obidient

I just hate church leaders who don't say the truth because of there selfish interest and Adeboye is one of them.
And the truth is that we should vote for Obi. SMH. He'll still lose terribly again. Sane people will not vote in terrorists and their enablers.
Anyone that doesn't support your fraud is evil and demonic, what kind of strategy is that one? You think Nigeria is that backward to fall for such useless nsogbu tactics?
Politics › Re: Why Are Obidients Attacking Adeboye? Intolerance Is Becoming Too Loud To Ignore. by Image123(m): 7:01am On Jul 01
Because that's what their elders taught them unfortunately.
Adeboye still complained bitterly about insecurity two days ago. They don't want that, what they actually want is support for their failed agitations.

Politics › Re: Pyln Endorses Oyinkansola Badejo-Okusanya For NBA President by Image123(m): 5:34am On Jul 01
bentenny:
All this long 'copy and paste' epistles just to explain why Obi will not win according to you!
😁😁😁
You are the one who claimed his supporters are only online which I objected with facts.
Oshiomole said worst by saying it was just four people tweeting.
Those 4 became 6million officially.😎

That means he isn't only relevant but also a stumbling block to your paymaster's pathway to second term in office.
Maybe a thousand tweeting could become 10million or more😁

At the risk of sounding like a broken records,you have already answered my question.
Any other essay writeup probably from a copy and paste agents is unnecessary and a waste of time.
i only explained why Obi got 6 million plus votes. This is a discussion forum and i have engaged anyone willing to discuss on many levels for many years on the forum. If you see it as an essay or copied work, well. See you in January, it's not a crime to daydream.
Crime › Re: Boko Haram Dressed As Soldiers, Forest Guards To Kidnap Borno NECO Candidates by Image123(m):
shekauvsbuhari:
When the gorvernors will fill the thing with thugs and their ethnic militia and especially equip them for rigging of elections and suppressing their opponents?
You should know that though we're crying of bad presidents, the gorvernors have been far worse.
The concept of state police and even local government police is very good but in a place where the political space is being led by criminal minded rulers, it won't fix the intended security problem.
SOLUTION - First of all, a people minded constitution that would put power and election process into the hands of the people, then the people will determine who leads them and have the power to fire them.
Thank you for responding and actually discussing your position. All you've stated are not new and are already happening where they happen anyway, so it's not going to be far worse. Election in Nigeria already witness thugs, rigging, suppression and even elimination of opponents. It's not state police that'll introduce it.
Have you considered that perhaps governors are far worse because they have less responsibility? Humans behave lazy and worse when they have nothing to do. For example when you are not going to work, you probably wake late, eat late, while away time, etc. Compared to when you are made responsible or given some position.
In the legislation made for state police, excuses of being powerless to defend yourself and your people will be removed. Excuses of criminals released or untouchable because of a call from Abuja will be removed. Excuses of the security and the criminal are from the same tribe and conniving against us will be gone.
As for abuses, this is what is on ground to curb and check.
It includes several safeguards specifically designed to prevent governors and political actors from abusing state police powers.

Key anti-abuse clauses and mechanisms include:

- 1. Ban on Political Persecution.
The bill expressly prohibits governors or state police from targeting people for political reasons. According to Senate debates, state police cannot lawfully be used against: opposition parties, critics of government, activists, associations, or dissenting voices merely because they oppose the government. Governors Can Only Give “Lawful” Directives.
Governors are allowed to issue directives to the State Commissioner of Police only if those directives are: lawful, written, and related to general public safety and public order.

This is meant to stop secret verbal orders and arbitrary political instructions.

- 2. Commissioner Can Reject Illegal Orders.
If a State Commissioner of Police believes a governor’s order is unlawful or violates policing standards, the commissioner can refer the matter to the National Police Council for review. The Council’s decision becomes binding.

- 3. National Minimum Standards Before Operation.
A state police force cannot begin operations until the State House of Assembly passes enabling legislation, and the force is certified as meeting national minimum standards.

This is intended to prevent poorly trained or politically created militias from becoming official police units.
It's not a one man show.

- 4. Oversight by National Police Council.
The National Police Council acts as a federal oversight body. It has roles in: appointments, dispute resolution, standards enforcement, intervention approvals, and coordination between federal and state police. Confirmation Process for Police Leadership
The State Commissioner of Police is: appointed by the governor, but also subject to confirmation by the State House of Assembly.

This creates at least one institutional check beyond the governor alone.

- 5. Protection Against Arbitrary Removal.
The bill reportedly makes removal of a State Commissioner difficult by requiring: stated cause, fair hearing, and legislative approval, including a two-thirds majority in some cases.

This is meant to reduce pressure on commissioners to obey illegal political orders.

- 6. Federal Police Intervention in Extreme Situations.
Federal police may intervene if: law and order collapses, the governor requests assistance, or the state police become dysfunctional.

However, intervention generally requires approval from the National Police Council to reduce arbitrary federal interference.

- 7. Constitutional Rights Still Apply.
The amendment updates constitutional language so protections relating to: liberty, discrimination, freedom of expression, and unlawful detention continue to apply regardless of whether the officer is federal or state police.


The bill has passed the National Assembly stages, but it still requires approval by at least two-thirds of Nigeria’s state assemblies before becoming fully operational law.

State police is not compulsory if your state feels they don't need it. It's the job of your state assemblies to decide or copy Lagos or other countries or even AI. The current security system is simply not enough for the insecurity challenges we face. States that care about the life and property of its residents should be allowed to contribute. Security is not rocket science but mostly more a game of numbers and intel. The more the merrier.

Politics › Re: Pyln Endorses Oyinkansola Badejo-Okusanya For NBA President by Image123(m): 4:14am On Jul 01
bentenny:
Voting isn't online and yet he officially got 6 million plus votes as a first timer under a relatively unknown party?
Well you have already answered by question though!
There you go barking another tree again. i showed you why Obi's name keeps coming up online, which is because most of his followers are online loud mouths. The bulk of Nigerians are not online or loud about political choice. We've just over 3million members on NL which is a bulk of the online. In this loud crowd, some are not functional members, some are not Nigerians, some have more than one account, some don't care about politics, and some don't have PVC to vote.
It is not wise then to assume and conclude Nigerian elections based on this fragment of sentiment, but you folks do that on and on. Replicating similar on some other online media doesn't change facts. Obi was expected to receive those votes and was expected to lose.
Unfortunately for him, he's lost a lot of that base and momentum. He failed to consolidate and improve on that. Except you are not realistic or informed. You'll know that many that openly supported him in 2023 have openly left, and many that were on the sidelines have determined to support the current government for different reasons. The below video is just one example of several.



Where did Obi get millions of votes and why's he not going to get them again? Please face facts, not emotions.
1. People were much anti-APC even inside APC. All those that lost the APC primary worked against APC, Amaechi, Osinbande and CBN. It's not happening this time.
2. There was a muslim muslim ticket and islamization scare. Plus many people wanted a Christian from the South since a Muslim from the North just did 8 years. This was pivotal to why most pastors and churches openly campaigned for Obi. It's not happening or selling this time.
3. Tribal sentiments and mass rigging in the South East. That would reduce this time because the governors and senators from there would not want to embarrass themselves but try to impress the FG. So they won't turn a blind eye to mass rigging.

i have mentioned and explained why Obi got millions of votes and why it's not happening again. Exactly in line with what you discussed. i expect the average Obi follower to either hurl insults and curses, or divert to talk about Tinubu or tribe or how i am suffering or how God will take me, or how Nigeria will happen to me. i beg you to be reasonable, and stick to the discussion.
Nairaland General › Re: Flood Sweeps Cars Away In Shogunle & Mafoluku, Oshodi Lagos (video) by Image123(m): 3:24am On Jul 01
Franchise21:
Did you see the one that happened in Gbagada also?
Flood happens globally.
Nairaland General › Re: Flood Sweeps Cars Away In Shogunle & Mafoluku, Oshodi Lagos (video) by Image123(m): 8:23pm On Jun 30
bigiyaro:
Tunibu built lagoon,,, oh sorry Lagos I meant to say grin grin grin









Nairaland General › Re: Flood Sweeps Cars Away In Shogunle & Mafoluku, Oshodi Lagos (video) by Image123(m): 8:21pm On Jun 30
Treasure17:
Sebi it's the Lagos Tinubu built. They should enjoy the flood. You won't see that napkin guy here.






Na Tinubu cause this ones too?
Nairaland General › Re: Flood Sweeps Cars Away In Shogunle & Mafoluku, Oshodi Lagos (video) by Image123(m): 8:20pm On Jun 30
Franchise21:
LegendHero claim say he no see this one...


You see this one? Flood happens globally.
Nairaland General › Re: Flood Sweeps Cars Away In Shogunle & Mafoluku, Oshodi Lagos (video) by Image123(m):
Klington:
All these just to defend and justify mediocrity.
All these to educate you since you seem to have gone to miracle center school. Flood happens globally, not due to political party or tribe.

Nairaland General › Re: Flood Sweeps Cars Away In Shogunle & Mafoluku, Oshodi Lagos (video) by Image123(m): 6:55pm On Jun 30
Atlantis585:
And your point is what exactly?

That the sophistication in SW is the same as everywhere else?

I thought you people said Tinubu’s sophistication built Lagos.

Oya, na stop defending nonsense.
Point is that Lagos will always be on top of you.
Politics › Re: Pyln Endorses Oyinkansola Badejo-Okusanya For NBA President by Image123(m): 6:52pm On Jun 30
OgwuEgo:
Ikpu nnegi onye iberibe anuohia di ka gi.
You can see this one is a cause of pain to his family. SMH, proves my point that agenda dey.
Politics › Re: Pyln Endorses Oyinkansola Badejo-Okusanya For NBA President by Image123(m): 6:49pm On Jun 30
bentenny:
Even in matters like this,you still had to insert Obi name and yet you data boys keep claiming he is irrelevant!
i didn't say he's irrelevant. He'll lose anyway. His followers are mostly online, so we'd refer to you. However, remember that voting is not online.
Nairaland General › Re: Flood Sweeps Cars Away In Shogunle & Mafoluku, Oshodi Lagos (video) by Image123(m):
Powerful flood is also in Ekiti, Abia, Ghana and co as we speak, but my country Lagos must take center stage. Life no dey for those places. Even Canada.
















Politics › Re: Peter Obi Questions Political Priorities After Completing INEC Nomination Form by Image123(m): 6:03pm On Jun 30
When someone talks too much, he must say rubbish.
Politics › Re: Fg’s Borrowing Jumps 75.6%—what It Means For The Naira And Interest Rates by Image123(m): 4:48pm On Jun 30
chidi2003:
Money inflows increased to states, right?
Subsidy was removed; why is Tinubu still borrowing the more?
i gave you undeniable lucid pointS as you requested. Seems that you don't want them, you want to pick holes instead. Nonetheless, i will oblige you till there's no shadow of doubt on intent.
1. $67 Billion added to Our GDP.
2. States that once begged for salaries are now building roads, bridges, hospitals, schools. From Ogun to Enugu, Kaduna to Ebonyi, governors admit the truth: Tinubu restructured the finances. The money is flowing.
3. Today, foreign reserves have stabilized and hit the highest in almost 20 years.
4. The stock market has exploded.
5. Investment has returned. Oil majors are back with billions.
6. Domestic refining is rising. The Naira for crude deal eases pressure.
7. Tax reforms shatter colonial chains.

Seven real economic improvements. Money inflows increased to states, it's not a question. i really wonder why you are asking.
As for borrowing, subsidy wasn't stopped so that Nigeria will not borrow. Every major country and even company borrows. Subsidy was stopped because it wasn't sustainable and we were even borrowing to pay it. Today, instead of borrowing or making money to pay for subsidy, the borrowing is used mainly for projects and infrastructure.
Because we need infrastructure NOW, we can't wait ten years saving for it. If you really need a car or house or education and you cannot immediately afford it with your earnings, nothing wrong with you borrowing for it. It's called different names like credit or mortgage or loan. This is a global practice. You either borrow, or look for funding. Like many of the current projects are also PPP. e.g Lagos-Calabar coastal highway.
Phones › Re: Whatsapp Usernames: Chat Without Sharing Phone Numbers In Upcoming Update by Image123(m): 4:34pm On Jun 30
Goo0dHardDick:
Telegram is boring. Can never be compared to WhatsApp
Because most of your clique don't use it. Those who use it know. Most of WhatsApp updates are what have been on telegram for years.
Politics › Re: Prophet Elijah Bamidele Slams Peter Obi, Says Nigerians Will Apologise To Tinubu by Image123(m): 4:32pm On Jun 30
CorrectionFLuid:
You and helinues will not condemn the insult that he just gave by calling someone a devil. But let obidients respond in kind, and y'all will be running from pillar to post with propaganda.

Wetin consign me sef
i don't know what or who he called, as he's unimportant and insignificant to me. i simply commented on the heading.
Politics › Re: Pyln Endorses Oyinkansola Badejo-Okusanya For NBA President by Image123(m): 4:28pm On Jun 30
NBA presidency wey nobody dey talk about, Obi people wan carry their bad luck nsogbu enter. Make una no sha jinx una candidate, because this one don dey look like e carry agenda follow.
Politics › Re: Fg’s Borrowing Jumps 75.6%—what It Means For The Naira And Interest Rates by Image123(m): 3:13pm On Jun 30
Gboss247:
The Nigerian GDP growth is powered by Dangote refinery and fertilizer exports and not petrol subsidy where the federal borrowed in nairas to subsidize petrol.
Stop defending nonsense!
Oh, so when the GDP is shrinking, we should blame government. When it grows, we should stop defending nonsense. Selective reasoning.
Jobs/Vacancies › Re: Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC) Job Recruitment (5 Positions) by Image123(m): 3:09pm On Jun 30
Many Nigerians no qualify be that. cheesy
Politics › Re: "It's Not Only Akara!" — Oluremi Tinubu Hits Back, Includes Tomato Sellers by Image123(m): 2:22pm On Jun 30
Ofunaofu:
Thunder ⚡🔥⚡🔥 you there once again
Go school, you no go.
Politics › Re: Sowore Freed On ₦200M Bail – Court Gives Tough Conditions (VIDEO) by Image123(m): 2:21pm On Jun 30
My man will look for how to be back by Friday.
Politics › Re: "It's Not Only Akara!" — Oluremi Tinubu Hits Back, Includes Tomato Sellers by Image123(m): 1:51pm On Jun 30
Ofunaofu:
Thunder 🔥 you there
No brakes, no jam, no sense, only insults, curses and negativity.
Politics › Re: Fg’s Borrowing Jumps 75.6%—what It Means For The Naira And Interest Rates by Image123(m): 1:49pm On Jun 30
chidi2003:
Tell me how Tinubu is getting things done, more better in Nigeria of today?
Humble my words with lucid points!
After the needed subsidy removal reset, $67 Billion added to Our GDP. States that once begged for salaries are now building roads, bridges, hospitals, schools. From Ogun to Enugu, Kaduna to Ebonyi, governors admit the truth: Tinubu restructured the finances. The money is flowing.
Today, foreign reserves have stabilized and hit the highest in almost 20 years. The stock market has exploded. Investment has returned. Oil majors are back with billions. Domestic refining is rising. The Naira for crude deal eases pressure. Tax reforms shatter colonial chains.
Politics › Re: Prophet Elijah Bamidele Slams Peter Obi, Says Nigerians Will Apologise To Tinubu by Image123(m): 1:17pm On Jun 30
Thanks you mr prophet. They are already apologizing. Though exaggeration dey wetin you talk.

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