₦airaland Forum

Double0h7:
Eid Mubarak

Tranquillity360:
where did he call for prosecution in Deborah case?


Point it out.

iLegendd:
The Hausas should try as much as possible to dissociate themselves from the Fulanis, but no, they're always claiming "We are one."

Almost everyone globally hates the Fulanis because of their evil and hunger to conquer and zero value for humans, but cows. Yet, zero invention to save life. You can never hear a Fulani invented this and that.

These people aren't as social as the Hausas. You hardly see them except in the bush, when they want to commit a crime and run back to the bush and during election. The ones you see easily are their wicked and power-hungry manipulative politicians.

So, the Hausas should start creating videos, teaching how to differentiate a Fulani from an Hausa man or woman. If you don't do these things, people will mistake you for Fulanis and you'll pay the price of a crime you didn't commit.

The Fulanis are owing every nation reprisal attack of atrocities they've been committing for decades without repercussion.

So, the Hausas, be wise and differentiate yourself.

Also, I pity the Igbos. Always claiming the South South to be yours, but the SS said no, we're different, yet Igbos refused to listen.

Now the SS is kpaing people, who do you think will pay the price? You, the Igbos since you keep claiming SS is yours. You've made Northerners to see you as one.

Now they've looked for trouble and you'll end up paying the price because you're the ones that travel the most to the North for business. It's too late to denounce what you've been claiming to own as yours.

Igbos and Hausas just have the same mindset. Always clingy and trying to be emotionally attached to their violent neighbours and these neighbours will always put them in trouble.

Mariangeles:
Noted.

I want to use this opportunity to ask; is it compulsory for children to fast also?

Samantha125:
Do they spent the whole 30 days without eating any solid food, or they only fast from 6 in the morning to 6 in the evening for the whole 30 days?

And is everyone allowed to go and celebrate Eid Mubarak with them, or it's solely for Muslims only?

Kobojunkie:
How can I make up my mind when you have, from your responses, not made up yours on exactly what is deployed in the book?

Kobojunkie:
Resolve a possible contradiction by picking any one of the possible false ideas?

RealAbba:
Please stop responding to him. He just wants to argue. If anyone wants to clarify about pharaoh's position in the Qur'an, let him/her go and read the whole Qur'an by themselves.

Kobojunkie:
He is Allah of the Muslims, is he not? He is not Zeus of the Greeks, Ogun of the Yorubas, or God of Israe aka YHWH l, so?

Kobojunkie:
Juxtapose two statements that seem to conflict each other to what end?

Kobojunkie:
Oh wow...gender matters as far as what here? your response or what?

Kobojunkie:
This confusion stems from your earlier response insisting that the punishment of this life as instituted --the torment of pharaoh-- by the Allah of Muslims on Pharaoh began at the point that the plagues were initialized.

RealAbba:
The way he even writes "Allah of the Muslims" tells you that he just wants mock you. Allah guides whom he wishes.

Kobojunkie:
Really? So, Allah of the Muslims responded just before death to all the non-muslims among the Pharoah's people who died during the whole ordeal?

Kobojunkie:
Again, you saying that Pharoah was a condemned man, no longer able to become a muslim, after the plagues instituted by Allah of the Muslims began?

2. The plague in Pharoah's case started before the death rattle — his actual drowing incident. Or are we talking of a different death rattle here?

3. You said ealier that it was closed off when the plagues began. Now you are saying it was when he was about to die — drown. Can you pick one please?

Kobojunkie:
. Humble in this case meaning? The last I checked, humble has nothing to do with reading and understanding the content of a book, but you seem to think differently.

Anyways, according to you, once Allah of the Muslim's torment begins — in this case, Pharoah's torment began when the plagues started— all doors to becoming a Muslim are closed. Is this the case?

Kobojunkie:
Pharoah was a god over his people, right? And the plagues that you mentioned impacted him and his people, right? Where they all local to the Pharoah?

Kobojunkie:
I have actually read the quran before now. I did not memorize any of the tales contained at the time.

I just do not understand why religious folks feel the need to add their own interpretation to what is written in the many books and then insist their ideas are better than what is stated in the book, all while insisting, against facts, that it is in fact what is written in the book.

Kobojunkie:
Huh? So, all the other Egyptians who were caused to die by way of the plagues were all as part of the Pharaoh's torment? And this is how the Allah of the Muslims deals with everyone who is not a Muslim or was this torment particular to the Pharoah?

Kobojunkie:


2. Interesting! So what you are insinuating is that even before he drew his last breath, Pharoah had already been condemned to torment by the Allah of the Muslims? Meaning that it did not matter at all that Allah of the Muslims responded(answered) to Pharaoh; even as he died, he remained a non-muslim. Right?

3. Based on this, wouldn't it then mean that Allah of the Muslims responds to the cries of non-Muslims at the point of death even though literally all death-bed confessions— since they are mostly made out of regret—are rejected by Allah of the Muslims?

Kobojunkie:
So, which of the above fits the case with Pharoah, and how?

Is the painful punishment death, in this case, drowning? Is the torment death(in this case, the drowning)?

MightySparrow:
From where did you pick your analysis in the Quran?

Kobojunkie:
Why do I get the feeling that you don't even have a clear understanding of the topic itself? Either that or you have no answers, but in a desperate attempt to pretend you know, you feel posting irrelevant links would somehow make the questions go away? How else does one go about explaining the various attempts to derail, abeg?

Pharoah was at the door of death, then he cried out that he now believed and was a Muslim. Then Allah of the Muslims answered pharoah, insisting that Pharoah's corpse would be preserved as an example to others to come after him. Where is it stated that Allah of Muslims rejected Pharoah's last-minute repentance since we are,in fact, being made to believe here that Allah of Muslims responded to Pharoah at the point of his death? If Pharoah was a non-Muslim even up until his last breath, why did the Allah of the Muslims take time out to answer him?

Kobojunkie:
Did you read through the content of the link yourself? If yes, why aren't you able to point me directly to the lines that answer my particular questions to you?

Skimming through the content of the link, I have not been able to find any mentions of the events that took place right as the Pharaoh was dying, so what is it you are afraid of?

2. There is a lack of evidence for the additional claims you have made thus far regarding the information presented in verses 90-93 from Surah Yunus. If you insist that it is a poor grasp of English translation, then you should probably help me by providing me with the source for the additional details you introduced via your interpretation.

3. I see you are quickly turning this into an ego trip instead of responding appropriately to the questions asked.

Kobojunkie:
Did you read through the content of the link yourself? If yes, why aren't you able to point me directly to the lines that answer my particular questions to you?

Skimming through the content of the link, I have not been able to find any mentions of the events that took place right as the Pharaoh was dying, so what is it you are afraid of?

2. There is a lack of evidence for the additional claims you have made thus far regarding the information presented in verses 90-93 from Surah Yunus. If you insist that it is a poor grasp of English translation, then you should probably help me by providing me with the source for the additional details you introduced via your interpretation.

3. I see you are quickly turning this into an ego trip instead of responding appropriately to the questions asked.

Kobojunkie:
Is this some sort of attempt to deviate from the main topic or what? 😏

My questions were specific in this case. Where does your Quran make this statement that the Allah of the Muslims rejected Pharoah's request for repentance even though the Allah of the Muslims answered Pharoah during his last hours? Or where is it stated that last-minute requests of the kind offered by the Pharoah are rejected by the Allah of the Muslims? Where?

Qasim6:
people that deliberately choose to be ignorant.

Kobojunkie:
You are allowed to believe what you wish of the book; that is not the concern here at all.

2. The fact that the verses quoted suggest that the Allah of the Muslims answered directly to the Pharaoh character implies that the Pharaoh's last-minute prayer was answered by the Allah of the Muslims. So, your insistence that the Pharoah's claim of believing was rejected by the Allah of the Muslims would require some additional support, should it not?

3. The Allah of the Muslims knew this, yet he chose to directly answer the Pharoah still. Come on now!

Kobojunkie:
1. He sought to save himself, but how? The verse does not imply or say any of that, though. So why conclude this to have been the case?

2. Up until what point? Please, be exact. Can you include a reference to other statements that could support this claim that it was not the case with this Pharaoh dude that was mentioned?

3. My problem so far is not with what is stated in the verse but the assertions that have been made so far regarding what is presented in those verse. Almost seems you two are reading from other sources at this point. So, where is this other source?

4. Where does your Quran make this statement that you claim? Where?

Kobojunkie:
So what you are saying is that deathbed confessions/attempts at repentance are invalid in Islam?

Curiously, last-minute regrets and attempts at repentance are very commonplace. There were probably many before Pharoah who also attempted to repent before their death. If Islam rejected all of their attempts as you claim, why the mention of this supposed attempt at repentance by Pharoah, then? I mean, this particular claim made in Islam comes well over 2000 years after the actual death of Pharoah. To what end?