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Collynzo9:
This shows how Ignorant you are.
Ohaji/Egbema LGA alone in Imo produces more oil than the whole of EDO state

Please, enlighten them! When it comes to oil production, Imo and Abia states make Efo and Ondo look inconsequential! Its sad to see that most people do not wish any good for igbos!!!

9jacrip:
Thank you.
Now let's share the 20% amongst the 3 states in order of production output.
The whole NDDC membership and slamming states into it needs to be reviewed. To me it appears political. And I can guess Imo & Abia became part of NDDC under Jonathan (I might be wrong).

Lumping unworthy states into NDDC is the problem Jonathan has created with the Kogi-Anambra face-off.

I have read your posts and I'm ashamed at your ignorance! Your lame attempt at passing off crass stupidity as intellectual drivel makes me want to puke! Note, this is my first time of being openly rude to anyone on NL! Says a lot about you!!!

Kai!!!!!!!! I miss my childhood!!!! Bazooka Joe was the bubble gum...

voltron: Rewinder for VHS Cassette .. even the words Cassette is strange to indomie geneneration.. but I am from the Bazooka Joe and Raleigh Bicycle Generation.. you wan try?

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Thank you very much! Yesterday was a blast...

Taiye4Christ: *Frankben
*Saggart
*Umennajiego
*Internetpirate

You will keep celebrating all the days of your lives. Many more fruitful and happy years ahead.

We wish you a HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!

You are being too generous!!! Spent 5 days in Kumasi...couldn't find any pretty girls! Ditto for Kumasi! Only saw some nice ones at Cape Coast!!

kayalla: since when did Ghananians start becoming beautiful? in the Accra town out of 100 girls u can only see 3 1/2 wey nearly fine

Odiha mma! Irachi nkezi?

mikeson12: Nwanna,I melagi?

I was born on a September 13 too!! How the years roll by....

frankben: September 13....

I don't know much about this date...
But i'm buoyed by the fact that september borns are alway successful both academically and otherwise....

Proud to be born in september

Azam Ohafia! Unu kaanu wo!

Justeenaleo: That's my kinda girl!!!!
She said it all

Your kinda girl? Please improve your standards!!! Emptiness and pride is all I see!!

LOL!!! I wont quarrel with your propensity to be rude...I guess most Nigerians are under economic strain, and a good outlet is to let of steam in form of rudeness to faceless people on the internet. As an Igbo man, I was brought up to be accommodating and polite...and make my arguments without using invectives.

The crux of the matter is whether Ikwerres can reasonably be said to be Igbos and that has no bearing on the origin of Igbos or Ikwerres. What matters is a logical/rational interpretation of the facts as presented today! I don't know the origin of electricity (or your example, quarks), but I know what electricity is from what it does in the present...its attributes are apparent! Any time I experience anything that behaves like electricity, whether via AC or DC, I know it is electricity. I am no engineer nor have I been to a power plant, so all I know about electricity is hearsa, yet I can recognise it when I see it!! Is this logic to hard for your to wrap around your sarcasm?

iwonbaoko: Even more rubbish

A quark is an elementary particle and a fundamental constituent of matter. Quarks combine to form composite particles called hadrons, the most stable of which are protons and neutrons, the components of atomic nuclei.[1] Due to a phenomenon known as color confinement, quarks are never directly observed or found in isolation; they can be found only within hadrons, such as baryons (of which protons and neutrons are examples), and mesons.[2][3] For this reason, much of what is known about quarks has been drawn from observations of the hadrons themselves.

There are six types of quarks, known as flavors: up, down, strange, charm, bottom, and top.[4] Up and down quarks have the lowest masses of all quarks. The heavier quarks rapidly change into up and down quarks through a process of particle decay: the transformation from a higher mass state to a lower mass state. Because of this, up and down quarks are generally stable and the most common in the universe, whereas strange, charm, bottom, and top quarks can only be produced in high energy collisions (such as those involving cosmic rays and in particle accelerators).

FROM THE ABOVE SUBMISSION WE CAN CONCLUDE THAT IKWERRES CAME FROM BABYLON!!

Just to highlight how irrelevant and ridiculous the twaddle you posted is. i have no intention of convincing you! I am writing for the record.

Superior logic? That is childish talk. What is my argument ?? Do you know? I doubt it

It s quite simple i.e we have no idea where Ibos or Ikwerres come from. All the verbiage is just guesswork and noise!!

No need to say "rubbish", my brother; appeal to my reason with reasonable arguments, and I will submit to your logic if its superior. So far? Im am not convinced!

Glottochronology is that part of lexicostatistics dealing with the chronological relationship between languages according to Wikipedia. "The study of language divergence, the rate of change of meaning and sound of words, which allows historians to investigate when languages split from each other and estimate the source or proto-language from which language families and groups developed. Glottochronology is an extension of Lexicostatistics, which was developed in the 1950s by the American linguist Morris Swadesh. It is a contentious field, given that there is dispute over the rate of linguistic change and the selection of a typical, unbiased vocabulary list for comparison."

From the above submission, can the Ikwerre dialect be a corruption of Bini language or is it rather a "divergence" from the original Igbo language? Why dialects exist is because of this divergence! I can speak the most basic Ohafia and you wont understand a word...even something as simple as "nitutemni usan nri" which is the same as "nyegodim efere nri" in central Igbo or "please give me a plate of food" in English, sounds completely different in Ohafia, but is a testimony to the amalgam of languages that make up a language, and stems from this "divergence": "usan" is Efik or Ibibio for plate, while "nri" is food in Igbo...I dont know the origin of "nitutemni" .

The language people speak is a strong pointer to their history- most black people in America speak English because their history is replete with colonisation by English people (who were very successful slave drivers); Swahili and Hausa are simplistic languages spoken by people who were largely influenced and colonised by the owners of the languages, saying something significant about their[b] history[/b][/b]. I served in Borno state, and can testify that most Kanuris are affronted when you refer to them as Hausa; a significant number cant even speak Hausa....yet they are a dominant Northern tribe, but werent colonised at any point in their [b]history by Hausa speakers!!!

I CAN say Ikwerres are Igbos without addressing the subject of the origin of the Igbos, and you know why? T.S Eliot in his Four Quartets said "Time past contained in time present point to one end which is unredeemable-Time future". If what I am seeing is what has become of the past of the Ikwerre people (speaking a largely Igbo dialect), then while it is possible that Ikwerres are not Igbos, it is highly improbable!!!

iwonbaoko: Rubbish all the black people in America speak English are they English. Most Northern Nigerians speak Hausa are they Hausa. Swahili is the language or lingua franca of many Africans but that does not make them Swahili.
The claim that the strongest anthopological store of history is very funny indeed. Who speaks latin today? The English are a "germanic" people but the similarities are very far from obvious.Language tell more about the present than the past. If not for Nigeria many people who call themselves Ibo would not do so they would just acknowledge affinity and kindred with other neighbouring groups. To say Ikwerre are Ibo without addressing the question of Ibo Origin is very superficial

Donarozzi: Ikelike people are Igbo. Ikelike is an Igbo name, and the Ikelike people were never Bini people. They are full-blooded Igbo people. When Ogwashi-Ukwu migrants arrived from Nri, they met the original Igbo inhabitants, the Ikelike people. It is totally wrong to link Anioma history to Benin Kingdom. Igbo people existed long before the evolution of Bini/Edo people. It is likely that majority of today's Bini land was part of the Igbo nation. But due to the expansion and forceful leadership of the Bini people, some of the original Igbo communities were absorbed and most of the original Igbo inhabitants there fled towards the East.

Now, let's look at the truth regarding the Ikwerre Igbo. The Ikwerre people have ancestral links with the Etche, Ngwa, Ohaji, and Uratta. The Ikwerre remember one of their ancestors called Iwhuruohna or Iwhuoha, and this is just the same Igbo name "Ihuoha" found in Etche. Igbo leaders need to organize re-orientation seminars aimed at correcting the distortions on Igbo history. Most importantly, the identity crisis among the Igbo of the South-South is caused by the fact that they are not grouped together with majority of their Igbo brothers in one geopolitical region. So, grouping the entire Igbo people together in one region will totally solve this identity crisis. We all are Igbo.

Its sad that Ohaji, Etche, Ndoni and sometimes Oguta people claim not to be Igbo. What a tragedy!!! Why an Ndoni or Ikwerre man would see himself more related to a Bini man than an Igbo man is incomprehensible!! Glottochronology is the classification of people according to language attrition. The strongest anthropological store of history is the language...It says a lot about our origin (no pun intended). I wont say more than this...He who has ears let him hear! I used to wonder why people believed the likes of Rev King of Lagos and other false prophets...but now I know: even well educated and cultured people lack the basic gift of rationality!!

Ihuomadinihu: For your information,Imo state igbos don't even understand Abia dialects deviod of central igbo words. I am igbo but i don't understand many Igbo dialects unless you become exposed to them for a long time. Ikwerre is an igbo dialect whether you like it or not. This is not even a worthy topic,go and take several seats!! Your ancestors were probably from bini,right now you are all Igbos with no inheritance in Benin. According to Benin history,they had slaves from the igbo hinterlands. These igbos were elevated to various positions ,they were actually banned when they decided to engage the binis in a revolution/civil war. You should read up on Umu Eze Chima and stop wallowing in self inflicted identity crisis!
For your information, Oguta has origins in Anioma, Ohafia with Bini, Arochukwu with Efik/Ibibio, Edda-Ebonyi with Calabars, Nsukka with Idomas, Onitsha with Igalas and Bini. Asaba with Bini. Owerri is the only neutral area even though i believe they intermingled with Ijaws esp the dance +=
ystem. Haven't heard that Igbo is a NATION! Pls read up on cultural fusion and acculturation, igbos in Bini, ethnic composition of igbos, numerous unintelligible igbo dialects and stop yarning nonesense on public forums.

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Thanks for enlightening this fellow!! Even their slogan "Ikwerre wu otu" is pure Igbo!! Have you ever heard an Ondo man denying his Yoruba identity despite dialectical differences? Inferiority complex clobbered by tunnel vision!!

Ikwerreboy: Have stayed in abia state as a student for 3yrs now.
When i first came into abia state i found it vry difficult to understand igbo. things i could understand were:
1. Bia (come)
2. Ego (money)
3. Ofe ( soup) e.t.c
But when dey use any of those words to make a sentence i dnt understand. i only understand d single word its self. e.g bia. which i knw is come.

This your argument is inherently very silly...I am sorry to say this. A quick look at fringe Igbo communities will show how silly that is. I am from the fringes...from Ohafia, and Ikwerre is much more like Igbo to me (a quick example is the fact that money in Ohafia is "okpogo" not "ego". In my culture, cuisine, and dialect I find many differences from the mainstream Igbo...yet I know that I am Igbo!!! If an Ohafia man can claim to be Igbo, then how much more an Ikwerre man, whose culture, cuisine and dialect are definitely more Igbo? Another example of a fringe Igbo dialect is the Nsukka dialect...Is the Nsukka person no longer Igbo by virtue of that? Please lets stop revising history and sacrificing truth on the altar of politics, myopia and crass ignorance!!!!

And yes, I grew up in the North, and now live in Port Harcourt...My discovery? Ikwerres are perhaps the dregs of the Igbo conundrum: loud, vulgar, greedy and yet lack the industry of the average Igboman!!! May God help the Igbo race!!

J12: There are no performance benchmarks so ideally, there's no worst or best performing governor in Nigeria.

This is first sane person on this thread! Due to difference in scenarios, metrics, comparative advantage, financial positions, human capital etc, it is only fair to judge performance using benchmarks that acknowledge these variances! When you use such measures, Fashola's achievement may not look so colossal, and Serial Dickson will look like an utter failure!!! Akpabio may be celebrated, while Mimiko and Chime applauded!

Whither my brother?

house37: You are just blabbing.The deserted hospital are indeed a testimony to the fact that majority of the masses now dislike doctors.286 indeed and you think that jamb result with what we all know about jamb and the high probability that you didn't get that score unaided is enough guarantee that you would have sailed through medical school and residency smoothly.

I happen to have met a lot of medical students during my time at the medical school, and I can attest to the fact that only about 20% of qualified doctors can be said to be actually brilliant!! Many get through medical school via means that I would rather not talk about here! Lets face the argument and avoid personal attacks!! This pharmacist guy may well have gotten his JAMB score and is probably more intelligent than many doctors!!! However, this does not imply that doctors do not have a case when they insist on being in charge of patient care in hospitals...Doctors are the head of the health care team and this singular fact is reflected in their training and development (despite the fact that we have a lot of charlatans masquerading as doctors because they acquired an MBBS or MBBCH).