₦airaland Forum

My brother, it's a big shame oooo! An embarrassment of epic proportions!

DeCleff:
My brother i am an Ikwerre son and am very proud of my Igbo origin. Our ancestors migrated from Benin but we have nothing in common or any similarities with the Benin Kingdom.

I wonder when my people will simply accept the truth about our origin and identity. A true Kalabari son knows that he is Ijaw. A true Eleme son knows he is Ogoni but an Ikwere son bearing an Igbo name and speaks an Igbo dialect and even speaks and understand general Igbo language with rathe claim Benin origin than his Igbo origin.

Thanks for the truth! My people migrated from Benin, but we are Igbo!

DeCleff:
Any Ikwerre m
an denying his igbo origin is deceiving himself. Migrating from Ancient Benin kingdom doesnt change anything because many clans in Abia state also migrated from Benin.

Very true! Southerners who have had limited association with the North are living in a Fool's Paradise! Going to Abuja from time to time doesn't mean you know the North! The North I know is a hydra-headed monster that seeks no respite for anything perceived to be against its interests (religious and cultural)!

McStoic:
Ur head dey there bro. Whoever has lived in the north will understand many things who those elsewhere can never ever grasp. Still praying GMB gives Nigerians the positive change worth their weight in GOLD!!

In addition to that, all regions should be allowed to conduct their census, and population figures should not be the basis of representation at the central government! Each region should have equal representation!!

More so, this jaundiced constitution must be jettisoned and re-drafted to ensure democracy, equal representation and respect of our various individualities! Islam should be expunged from it completely!!!

barcanista:
OP thank you very much. The March 28 event was a testament that the Nigeria arrangement is nothing close to unity. Only a systematic change or an outright referendum will change things.

What we need in the SS/SE is True Federalism and 50% Resource Control. We don't need any other crumb in the name of Amnesty, NDDC, Niger Delta Ministry or even PIB. If the Nigeria state refuses, then a referendum should be called to determine whether or not we want to remain in this arrangement called Nigeria. This I believe is legitimate and noble. We can't continue to deceive ourselves.

Jonathan failed the South...that's a harsh reality! But you need to deal with the issues that make the South a caricature in Nigeria! The South also failed Jonathan! It's a funny paradox that we need to examine critically! Thank God you live up North...How many Northerners would vote against their Islamic brothers, no matter what infamy is orchestrated?

rexbuton:
Jonathan's administration was so sad that apart from not making capital developments in the south, he didn't put policies that would favour us either.. He was just planning with no actualization.. All our major military infrastructure are still in the north, PIB that he should have forced through, he let it rot. Instead of Nigeria's real GDP and GNP increasing, Dangote's GDP soared. Dangote did not only become the richest african, but also the major player in Nigeria's economy. And was even bold enough to say that he owed his success to Jonathan's favourable policies. IF it were in China, the Minister for the economy and dangote would be tried

Trust me, after living my whole life up north, you'd find it hard to trust in their good will for all! Like the guy wrote, the elections were a "poisoned chalice"! When it takes effect, we would know that Khaki no be leather!


Southerners should wake up from this crazy slumber!!!

Osode:
At last..
Someone with real Depth.
I've noticed that only some yoruba's, and SE and SS'ners who live, (or have lived) ..or even mostly frequent here up north on some bussiness have any SLIGHT CLUE what the real issues are.
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Very Indepth..
Thanks once again.

That's what Jonathan suffered! No matter what he did, he was vilified! All his intentions were questioned! And he was written off by the intelligentsia!

eph12:
This was my fear since last year. These nonsense name calling will never stop. Faults will always be found and goodwill will be interpreted in bad faith. What goes around comes around

You still wrote an epistle and sounded...very pained! Take am easy...what's sauce for the goose, is sauce for the gander! Da abinci mu dafa shi ga Jonathan a yanzu dole mu ci shi.

arbitter:
'She's' not, 'she' is actually a made up name used by an ldiot 'not from the North' to tell us his opinions.

@ topic

Da abinci mu dafa shi ga Jonathan a yanzu dole mu ci shi. Classic Southerners trying to write Hausa

Im sure we all remember how you all cried like little bltches on this forum because Jonathan was called a retar.d , the Admin had to even censor the damn word because of how pathetic you were. Well, I promise you that we give zero shlts about what you call Buhari. Why should we anyway? Does your insults stop him from being President ? Or does it somehow affect his life in anyway? You have been insulting him since 2003 so what exactly is new here? why do you feel the need to keep telling us stories about why you insult Buhari ?

What i think is that you are so disappointed no one is giving a shlt about your 'insults' so you have now resorted to doing stuff like this to draw peoples attention and it still wont work.

Let me not get carried away here, no need to write an epistle over something so irrelevant.

Know your country more! It's a "her"

onyi4edu:
If truly the writer of this article is a northerner, I raise my thumb up for him.

"What is good for the goose is good for the gander"; Even at that, the office ought to be respected irrespective of who occupies it.

Or very patient! I never dismiss anything...actually your write-up had some valid points, and I can sympathise with its slant! It's apparent that our laws and judicial systems need an overhaul! Our core document, the constitution is a charade! God help us!

trillville:
I no longer support the idea of any thief in Nigeria going to prison !!!

Pause for a minute, I'm not going crazy. You can continue reading now.

During our grand parents lifetime, stealing was not as rampant as it is today. Each region had its customary ways of dealing with thieves. Today, we have just adopted the British common law, which was created based on Britain's culture, and yet we expect it to work for us?

The average Nigerian sees western prisons as a holiday, cause when you go there, you do not work. They feed you, clothe you, you have nice toilet facilities (not like in our NYSC camps) and they will even educate you for free.
As a result of this fact, the Nigerian government will never build standard prisons in Nigeria because a lot of bobos and babes will be fighting to go to prison.

When a thief big man is found guilty of theft, Nigerians tend to have pity for the person because of the deplorable state of our prisons so we start to make excuses and stylishly beg for mercy.
Most cultures used to strip thieves to their undies, pour dirt on them and force them to dance round the town while children will be singing t"ole ole"
"Ole ajibole"

As silly as this punishment sounds, it may actually curb corruption in Nigeria. Really, I'm not kidding!

When you consider why people steal so much in Nigeria, you will realise the primary reason, is to show off to their peers, either that they have a better house, better cars, eating better food, etc. it's all about showing off cause Nigerians respect display of money, and this gives the "shinee" (the person doing effizy) authority over his peers.

Making the thief strip down to their undies while been mocked by children removes every sense of dignity the thief has, and the embarrassment and shame to the big man will be so unbearable to him and his family members. Imagine the YouTube clips and the facebook and Twitter post that would be generated from such events. Oh, think of the mimes, Nigeria would definitely become more popular as a result of this.

Well, if you've read to this point, I guess you are as bored as I am.

You, my good man, are intelligent! I liked how you dissected the whole conversation, dispassionately and to the point!

omonnakoda:
He is sharp but I do not agree he is good . I think he is immature and plays to the gallery a lot. It is important to study the older more mature interviewers to see how they operate.Clearly he fancies himself as a younger Jeremy Paxman but he must learn that when you ask a question and get an answer you don't like you should at best express your skepticism rather than attempt to badger or bully as he did with the Obasanjo question.That was inappropriate. He should learn from Larry King. The ultimate . Anyway I guess there is a market for his style but he I am sure he will adjust if he was interviewing the Emirs of ,UAE about human rights or workers rights etc

Hey! Except you are blind, you would have seen how many parts of the South voted more out of their vaunted feeling that Goodluck failed the nation! Forget that their politicians rigged in GEJ favour in a few places, but many felt Buhari was an alternative, despite his religious leanings! However, that cannot be said about the North!!

AhmedMustapha:
I don't in anyway doubt the role religion plays in Nigerian politics but you make it seem like both parties didn't gain from the religious card and NIGERIA isn't a lie!

The lie called Nigeria? I was born into it!!! But reality and truth of religion as a factor in our politics? That I have to live with!!!

AhmedMustapha:
who fed you with such lies?

You have said the truth, but would it set others free? They would still come with their "Sai Buhari" chant and refuse to comprehend in the fever of their perceived win, and also because human beings always seek to hide their guilty! How many would be noble and honest enough to say "I made a mistake"?

ZKOSOSO:
I testify that the OP is correct. Very correct!
I live long enough in the north to know how muslim north think on any issue.

Islam first.
Islam second.
Tribe third.
North fourth
Islamic brotherhood of foreigners fifth
Then christians/ southerners last and most hated except they are supporting them like amaech, oyegun, ngige etc

That's the pathetic aspect of it all! We claim to be educated yet the North used the simple things of the world to confound the so-called wise! Something as simple as religion!

illmatic101:
Our brothers from the south thinks otherwise, they don't know the gravity of their actions.
Meanwhile GOODLUCK REMAINS MY HERO AND A SAINT

Sorry to contradict you, Hausa is certainly the easiest language, though I admit the Yoruba is easier than Igbo.

Vikkie14:
For Obodo Nigeria, Yoruba Language is like PUNCH newspaper: THE MOST WIDELY SPOKEN LANGUAGE.

From Nigeria to Benin to Cuba to Brazil to US etc, Yoruba stands out.

In Nigeria, stats show that there each yoruba states has different Yoruba languages. The yoruba spoken by the people of Ife is different from that of Ilesha, that of Iwo from Ibadan, that of Ijesha's from Igbomina, that of Ijebu from that of Lagos, that of Kwara from Ekiti, etc.


There is Diversity in Yoruba language. It's the EASIEST language in Nigeria to learn with less stress.

Nice contribution! The Ekpe, Okonko, Obon etc are not just aboriginal to the Efiks and Ibibios, a sizeable chunk of Igbo land primarily the Ohafia axis are deeply rooted in these. If the rate, spread and keypoints of slave trade is anything to go by, Ohafia descendants could be the ones being highlighted in Cuba. Ohafia tongue is greatly influenced by Efik and Ibibio too!

Mapletraks:
^^^^^^^
@stabillo

Yea, in old Havana in Cuba, the Yoruba or Lucumi traditions, religion and language are
still very much alive.

Prof. Wole Soyinka is very popular in Cuba as well as the current Ooni of Ife who first visited
the house of Oodua or Yoruba descendants in
1987 and later in 2001. He was received by
Fidel Castro on both occasions.

For over 15 years now, I have read extensively
about the Yoruba Descendants and religion/music in Cuba and I can say that Yoruba
influence is even stronger in Cuba than in
Brazil because the Spanish in Cuba were less
repressive to Blacks on the slave sugar
plantations and estates.

I must also add that in the Matanzas Province
of Cuba, the Efik and Ibibio culture is still
alive via the Ekpe society, and art!

Up to 175,000 Yorubas from Ijesa, Egba, Oyo, Ketu in Benin Rep. were shipped to Cuba
in the 1800s alone and almost an equal
number to Bahia in Brazil!

Words such as ere, ijo, ile for example are noticeable in the tropical music of Cuba.

Last but NOT least, the wealthy Nigerian
billionaire business mogul - Ambassador
Antonio Dehinde Fernandez's Yoruba ancestors
returned from Cuba and settled in Lagos Island
like most Yorubas who returned from Brazil, Cuba, Trinidad, Sierra Leone, and USA via Liberia
did.

PS. The Alakija family patriach of Egba-Brazilian
returnees was Sir. Adeyemo Alakija who dropped
his Brazilian name of Placido Assumpcao after
reading law in the UK in 1914. He was a very rich
man in his days and co-founded the iconic
Daily Times. He was the first Nigerian to
be knighted by the British royalty.


~Mapletraks

Siberia! A well deserved appointment!

stepo707:
Oba of Lagos, Oba Rilwan Akiolu (Lagos), University of Sokoto

Babe, where have you been? Missed you!

tit:
after some apcshits will be asking of what the defense budget was spent on.
una done see this kain one for naija before?

i need to send a drone to all nairaland apc people!
if i can gather them in one place to make it easy for me.

Happy birthday! Let's not give up on Abia state!

tchidi:

It just had to be my state!! Ike Unu a gwulam biko!!

Meanwhile, Happy birthday to Me!!!!!!
#shoki
#TurnDownForWhat?!

If you had a modicum of sense you wouldn't write what you wrote! You can chant all you want, but Truth will find a way!

Musiwa419:
The ibos are part of the majority marginalising the minority. Ibos should stop marginalising the minority

You have q one-track mind! Open your mind to dissent!

pazeinza:
you are spewing hogwash

The Hausa, Ibos, Ijaws and Yorubas are the one marginalising the minority groups in Nigeria

I don't need to describe Kaduna for you! I was born there and can speak Hausa probably as well or better than you! I also don't need to lie to justify anything! I can bet you are an armchair critic who hasn't been to Rivers State!!! Even if you have, you probably were limited in scope! I probably know Kaduna more than you! Don't get me started!

abduljabbar4:
Mr man you are a big LIAR. Do you even know why the north has more population?
Ok. Where did you go in Kaduna. Describe the place for me

So, Igbos should keep quiet while Hausas and Yorubas marginalise them via concocted census figures! What you may not know is that what you call Igbo is an amalgam of various tribes and dialects!! Minorities exist there too!

More so, if a major tribe like the Igbos can be allowed to be marginalised, where is the hope for minorities?

pazeinza:
So because the ibos are a majority tribe they should be given a special treatment right? But i thought he ws talking about equality

The Shuwa Arabs should be neglected

The Bacchama should be abandoned

The Kemberi should be forsaken

so where then is the equality when the minoritites arent attended to?

Still waiting for you bro! It's about time!!!

Truckpusher:
I'm on transit - I'll create another account and contact you guys.

Cheers.

Still waiting for you bro!

Truckpusher:
I'm on transit - I'll create another account and contact you guys.

Cheers.

They hate Barcanista because he is unravelling their so-called progressive agenda! I used to read stuff on Nairaland without making much comments, but "the progressives" made me a convert with their hypocrisy and intolerance for divergent opinion suitably couched with fine speech and water-tight arguments! If anyone is a bigot, it is those pointing fingers at Barcanista...they forget that four others are pointing right back at them!

pazeinza:
WE KNOW YOU ARE NOT A BIGOT, WE ALSO KNOW THAT YOU ARE MAKING CASE FOR POLITICAL EQUALITY IN NIGERIA

WHEN WILL THE SHUWA ARABS BE RECKONED WITH IN NIGERIA? THEY HAVE NOT BEEN GIVEN ANY POLITICAL POSITION EITHER BY APPOINTMENT, ELECTION OR SELECTION.

WHY IS NIGERIA MARGINALISING THE SHUWA ARABS

What beats me is that so-called enlightened Nigerians justify tyranny because of political expediency!!! The Lower Niger initiative is a bold initiative that says: "ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!"

barcanista:
I have been to Nassarawa and Abia states, there is no way anybody can tell me that Nassarawa is more populated than Abia state. The last census was a charade.

Igbos are a majority tribe! Look through reality not a haze of insecurity! He was comparing commensurate to expected population size!!!

pazeinza:
The ibos have been marginalised, right? What about the Junkuns, Efiks, Kamberis, Bacchamas, Tivs, Momoye, Shuwa Arabs, Higgis, and all other members of the more than 250 ethnic groups In Nigeria? I guess they are all irrelevant

You're not an Igboman! And stop being silly!!

kcpragmatik:
I'm an Igbo man, but to be honest the Igbo drew the margin themselves.. NAIRA.

I have lived in Kaduna and Katsina states! And I'm now in Port Harcourt! Believe me, Port Harcourt is several times more populated than both states mentioned! There is a grand conspiracy to subdue others through fraudulent population statistics, and it's uncharitable for the so-called "progressives" not to call attention to such a monumental fraud!!

abduljabbar4:
I honestly don't know the population on rivers state but I believe katsina and kaduna are more populated. I'm not saying that I know. You should also learn to consider the size of the states

Stop using minor arguments to justify heinous crimes! It's pathetic how some people latch on to one seemingly inconsistency to justify tripe!

Neyoor:
Nice observation from the OP but we must not shy away from the fact that all ethnics and tribes were present when they propounded these laws and theories that you actually think is not in favour of your particular tribe. Besides, the current President is from South South, what actually stopped him from looking into this issue?

If your fellow Igbo tribes are seeing it the way u're viewing it, they out to have suggest a solution during the last CONFAB or ur brothers were just sent to CONFAB to warm the seat?