Career › Re: PHED Office Uyo Laced With Juju As Staffs Dessert Office(picture) by Islie: 5:45pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
Am sure it must one of them that put the juju |
Crime › Re: Randy Married Man Nabbed For Impregnating Girl, 13 by Islie: 5:39pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
The suspect’s wife and mother of one cried that “the devil crept into her home to disgrace them and has succeeded.” Why should every insane thing one does have to be credited to the devil This is mostly by women |
Politics › Fayose Needs Medical Help – Buhari Campaigners by Islie(op): 5:32pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
The Buhari Support Organisation has said Ekiti State Governor, Ayo Fayose, needs medical help to cure him of his negative obsession with the All Progressives Congress Presidential candidate, Maj. Gen. Muhammadu Buhari(retd.).
Director of Media and Information Technology of the BSO, Dr. Chidia Maduekwe, who trained as a medical doctor, said this in response to Fayose’s claim that Buhari was too frail to govern Nigeria.
According to him, ordinarily the BSO would have ignored his claims as the ranting of a threatened species of a drowning politician but because the governor was a leader of the party in the South-West geo-political zone, it would be difficult to ignore him.
Madukwe said, “The Governor of Ekiti State, Mr. Ayo Fayose, is suffering from what we call in medicine obsessive compulsive disorder, based on an appetite and a wish to see General Muhammadu Buhari dead.
“He is a psychopath, whose obsession has alter his sense of rational analysis of situations whenever he hears the name, Buhari. Unfortunately, he is not God and does not have control of the life of our revered General.
“Fayose should go back home and prepare to defend himself in the case of the massive rigging that led to the stolen mandate he currently enjoys and leave our general alone.” http://www.punchng.com/news/fayose-needs-medical-help-buhari-campaigners/ |
Crime › Re: Confusion As Wife Kills Husband On Valentine’s Day by Islie: 3:27pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
babyosisi: So is she also a widow She is a killer and not a widow |
Crime › Re: Confusion As Wife Kills Husband On Valentine’s Day by Islie: 3:26pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
santicruz: Anambra women will never stop killing their husband.if d no use juju dem go use hand. Tufiakwa! Hahahaha Seems there is a serious correlation with your assumption with a lot of killings we do hear nowadays |
Crime › Re: Confusion As Wife Kills Husband On Valentine’s Day by Islie: 3:24pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
Another source, who also claimed to have a close relationship with the family, however, said the cause of the fight was monetary issue. Just because of money....... He has to lose his life...... What a cruel world This what the love and crave for money do cause... It makes you do some unthinkable things |
Family › Re: Fire Razes House, Burns 6-month Baby To Death by Islie: 3:13pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
dre11: That's a question no one could answer because that's what makes the fire accident a mystery in itself Such is life Am having a feeling the fire could be as a result of electrical fault or something close |
Family › Re: Fire Razes House, Burns 6-month Baby To Death by Islie: 8:29am On Feb 23, 2015 |
The people of Umudim, Umuezeala community in Ehime Mbano local council area of Imo State, have been thrown serious agony, following the death of a six-month old baby girl in a mysterious fire that razed their family apartment. What caused the mysterious fire, because it seems we try to give credit to our negligence to mysterious circumstances......... Because I feel it negligence that would have caused the fire to start and the little baby was the soul to pay the the price for this Too young to die  |
Politics › Re: PDP Full Of Insincere Leaders, Says Clark by Islie: 8:21am On Feb 23, 2015 |
PDP a sinking ship
Why won't they be insincere when the head is insincere about meeting the yearnings of the populace |
Politics › Interim Govt Is Treasonable, Says President At Mass by Islie(op): 7:53am On Feb 23, 2015 |
President Goodluck Jonathan should call his supporters and aides to order, Catholic Archbishop of Abuja John Cardinal Onaiyekan, said yesterday in his review of the political activities in the country. Many Nigerians are worried about the manner government officials and the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) campaign Council members have been heating up the polity. Contrary to President Jonathan’s statements, his campaign team has been pillorying the Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC) and its chairman Prof. Attahiru Jega. Some of the President’s supporters have been making inflammatory statements, including saying Dr Jonathan must win the elections or the nation will burn. But the President has always insisted that his ambition is not worth the blood of anyone. Yesterday, the President said he would not be part of any Interim Government, an idea he described as treasonable and alien to the Constitution. He also affirmed that the March 28 and April 11 dates picked for the general elections will remain sacrosanct. Dr. Jonathan and Cardinal Onaiyekan spoke at the opening mass for the plenary Assembly of the Catholic Bishops Conference of Nigeria at Our Lady Queen of Nigeria Pro-Cathedral, Garki, Abuja. The President said he would not head an Interim Government, which can only be set up by a military government. Besides, he said an ING will not be acceptable to the Economic Community of West African States (ECOWAS), the African Union (AU) and the United Nations (UN). He said: “There is no way Goodluck Jonathan, elected by people with clear mandate, will now go and head an Interim Government. The only interim government anybody can constitute is that of the military government which, of course, will not be accepted. “ECOWAS, AU, UN won’t accept it. And Nigeria will not be a pariah state. Clearly, the insinuation of interim government to me is treasonable.” Stressing that the postponement of the elections was a blessing in disguise, he said: “Elections will be conducted as scheduled by INEC.” “Look at what happened in Gombe on February 14… If the elections had been held, the casualty figure after that attack in Gombe would have been great. It is better for us to conduct elections that will not be contested, elections that are credible, free and fair. ”We believe no criminal element can come and prevent us from conducting our elections. I will not do anything because of personal interest; that would jeopardise the interest of this nation. Jonathan also faulted utterances that overheat the polity and portray Nigeria as being at a point of going up in flames. “When I listen to how some of us politicians talk… but God is supreme, this nation will survive”, he said. He also thanked Christians for the prayers for the nation, adding that the whole world was going crazy because of the bloodshed by terrorist groups, including Boko Haram. Cardinal Onaiyekan urged President Jonathan to call his aides and supporters to order so that they will desist from poisoning his resolve that elections will hold on the new dates – March 28 and April 11 – set by INEC and to ensure that the May 29 inauguration of a new government remains sacrosanct. According to the Archbishop, personal insults and caricature should give way to national discourse that will benefit all. He said: “Good families make a good nation. We can go even further to state that a good nation should be a family of families. The diversity of our nation is well known. But that is no reason why we cannot see ourselves as belonging to the same national family. “Apart from the fact that the things we have in common far outweigh our differences, even those differences need not be causes for conflict and friction. If we acquire the habit of respecting one another, then our differences can become beauty to celebrate in harmony. “Politics is very much in the air. It is a notable and sacred task meant to serve the common good of the family that is the nation. The hot competition between political parties should not make them forget the common objectives that everyone should be pursuing: justice, peace, prosperity, harmony, good order, building a nation we can all be proud of, etc. “The differences are in strategies and priorities. These are what should be presented to us, positively and transparently, to guide our free choice at elections. ”There should, therefore, not be room for negative campaigns. Personal insults and caricatures should give way to rational discussion of issues that concern us all. Truth must be sacrosanct even in politics. Lies, deceit, calumnies cannot move us forward. “They are the hallmarks of the bad politics which have not allowed us achieve the high level that we deserve as a nation. These are what builds tensions, heat up the polity, spreads dangerous rumours and cause deep distrust among rival political groups. All this is not in the interest of our people,” he said. On the rescheduled elections, Cardinal Onaiyekan urged politicians to use the extra time to mend fences. He also warned that the new dates should not be violated to avoid dire consequences. He said that while the president has promised that the elections will hold on schedule and that May 29th remains sacrosanct for a new government to take over, he urged him to caution his supporters not to poison the air. According to him, the dates are declarations by the President and he should be given the benefit of the doubt. He said: “However, one judges the wisdom or even justice of the postponement of the elections, we should commend the political parties for patiently accepting a ‘fait accompli’ that seriously disrupted the plans – and maybe even budget – of many of them. “The nation will nevertheless be better served if we use the unexpected extra time to work for better outcome in our elections. Can we spend the time left to change attitudes, repair broken relationships and build trust? For example, Mr. President has declared publicly that he is committed to a free and fair elections. While we believe him, we hope that he will not allow any of his supporters to poison this his holy resolve. “In the same vein, he has declared that not only May 29 but also March 28 and April 11 are sacrosanct dates. There is no question of any new shift of dates. By the same token, he has excluded any idea of a much speculated ‘interim government’ for which there is no provisions in our constitution. These are sacred declarations from our President, which cannot be violated without the kind of serious consequence that is in nobody’s interest. “It would be better, therefore, that we give Mr. President the benefit of the doubt and stop sowing doubts that only raise tensions and create avoidable anxieties.” The Archbishop urged clergymen not to make reckless remarks and political utterances liable to compromise their sacred role. He said, “The clergy should lead in this regard. As spiritual fathers to all for the common good, they should avoid reckless and politically partisan utterances, liable to compromise their sacred role and confuse the flock. “We commend and encourage our members to have decided to take on the apostolate of public life, in the spirit of service and not for selfish aims. As Catholic politicians, they should be witnesses to the truth, justice and peace that are the hallmarks of our Catholic Social Teaching. If it is often said that ‘politics is dirty’, they should dare to be different, armed with God’s grace, and play a clean game, even at the cost of being declared losers at the polls. “As for the rest of… faithful, you are ambassadors of Christ to spread peace and harmony all around us. Reject and refuse to spread unfounded alarms, dangerous rumours, promote mutual trust and love, so that, together we can make our nation one united family under God our father.”
http://thenationonlineng.net/new/interim-govt-is-treasonable-says-president-at-mass/ |
Politics › Re: 6million OPC Members'll Vote For Jonathan: Adams by Islie: 7:41am On Feb 23, 2015 |
Maybe he is going to raise the dead to vote for his paymaster
Rubbish |
Politics › Re: Why Should I Vote For APC In 2015? by Islie: 7:39am On Feb 23, 2015 |
Notable amongst these statements is the threat by the Director-General of their Presidential campaign, Governor Rotimi Amaechi that a parallel government will be formed if they lose. Does anyone remember that this kind of action led to the arrest and detention of Chief MKO Abiola? That's the only quote of insecurity that the OP could come up with....... But, when Doyin okupe says they will never allow GMB to take over(even if he wins) that its not acceptable to them, what does that means When his PA says that for GMB to come on board, the would rather allow for the military to take over..... What does that mean and entails Am sure if you are looking for APC program and manifesto..... You would have known their plans for all the points you did highlight |
Politics › Re: Cross River Governor’s Steward Killed By Gunmen by Islie: 7:12am On Feb 23, 2015 |
All this political assassination is getting to much......
Life doesn't mean much to people again |
Politics › Jonathan’ll Not Sign Pact With Yoruba Leaders –presidency by Islie(op): 7:09am On Feb 23, 2015 |
There were indications on Sunday that President Goodluck Jonathan might not sign an agreement with Yoruba leaders on the forthcoming elections.
The PUNCH reliably gathered in Abuja that while the President was ready to specify positions he would give the South-West if he emerges victorious on March 28, he would not go to the extent of signing a pact with the leaders or any South-West group.
Sunday PUNCH had on Sunday reported that Yoruba leaders had asked the President to put into writing , the key positions he would give the South-West if he wins the election.
Jonathan was reported to have solicited the support of the zone at various meetings he had with some Yoruba leaders in Ogun and Oyo states.
A former Minister of Works, Adeseye Ogunlewe, had said that Jonathan was in the South-West to seek the zone’s support for his re-election bid.
The Special Adviser to the President on Media and Publicity, Reuben Abati, in an interview with one of our correspondents on Sunday , said that the issue of signing an undertaking did not arise during the consultations Jonathan had with over 50 monarchs in the zone.
He however stated that signing an undertaking was not important since Jonathan was already addressing the alleged marginalisation of the South-West.
The Presidential spokesman said the only time the issue of marginalisation came up was during one of the press interviews granted by the President.
In responding to that question, Abati quoted the President as recalling that the position of the Speaker of the House of Representatives was zoned to the South-West when the government was being composed.
He said Jonathan noted that it was also a son of the zone, Bola Tinubu, who sabotaged that arrangement.
Despite this, however, he said the President had since been making conscious efforts to appoint sons and daughters of the zone to sensitive positions.
Abati said, “What I recall is that the President was well received during the consultations in the South West and there was no occasion during his interaction with the over 50 obas that he was asked to sign any undertaking.
“He also met with well known elders of Yoruba land. He met also with labour leaders. I don’t remember President Jonathan being told to sign any undertaking.
“Senator Ogunlewe may be echoing the concern that has been in the air that the South West is not being adequately represented in the Federal Government.
“If that issue came up at all in the course of our visit to the South West, it was during one press interview that a journalist asked about the issue.
“The President drew attention to what Senator Ogunlewe himself mentioned that when the present government was being composed, the position of the Speaker of the House of Representatives was zoned to the South West but it was a Yoruba son, Bola Tinubu, working on the platform of Action Congress of Nigeria who blocked and sabotaged that arrangement.
“He also made it clear that this is something that he has addressed. You will see that the President has been making efforts to address the issue.
“We have Yorubas occupying sensitive positions in the cabinet. A Yoruba son is the Minister of Agriculture. A Yoruba daughter is the Minister of State for the FCT. The Ministry of Communication Technology is being headed by a Yoruba daughter. Under Jonathan, a Yoruba woman has also served as Minister of State Defence. Two Yoruba sons have since been Ministers of Police Affairs under Jonathan.
“We have also had a Yoruba son occupying the position of Minister of State, Defence. He has also appointed Yoruba persons as his Chief of Staff and as his official spokesperson. You will see that the President has been trying to address this issue.
“What the President has said was that when he comes back for his second term, he will make sure that issues like this about one part of the country being marginalised will not occur.”
Abati added that Jonathan made it clear during the South West tour
http://www.punchng.com/news/jonathanll-not-sign-pact-with-yoruba-leaders-presidency/ |
Politics › Why We Want Buhari As President –southeast Professionals by Islie(op): 4:38pm On Feb 22, 2015 |
Dr Kelechi Nwagwu is the Convener and National Coordinator of South East Professionals for Buhari. In this interview, he explains why the group is supporting Gen Muhammadu Buhari (retd), the presidential candidate of the All Progressives Congress (APC) for the March 28 election. Excerpts:
What exactly is the objective of South East Professionals for Buhari? South East Professionals for Buhari is a political pressure group. We have been Buhari’s supporters since 2011. I had always believed that somebody that has the kind of Buhari’s character, his integrity and incorruptible nature should be supported to clean up the country irrespective of our ethnic, religious and geographical differences. It is a common knowledge that corruption is a major problem that has held this country down for many years. We all saw how this man tackled indiscipline and corruption in his first coming. Unfortunately, that regime was scuttled by the Babangida regime. Now we feel that we should allow the man to renew the battle. But there are lots of misrepresentations, especially in the Southeast. Some have tagged him an Islamic extremist or religious bigot just to misrepresent him to Nigerians. So, our task is to tell our fellow easterners to disregard all these fabrications. When the All Progressives Congress (APC) was first created, it was very difficult to identify with the party especially in the East. But today, APC is making a serious inroad in the region. If we have a free and fair election, it is certain that the party will win in states like Imo and Buhari will score constitutionally required 25 percent in most states in the region. We have been doing neighbor to neighbor campaign. We’ve been going house to house speaking to people. Every rally Buahari had in the east, our members were present.
Where are you getting your funding to carry out this campaign? That is where passion comes in. When you have passion for a particular course, you will always go out of your way to make sure you achieve that target. The organisation is basically self- funding. You know Buhari does have money to throw around. Up to this moment, this organization has been self-funding. We have some important personalities that are working with us. Also, we have been trying to develop a working relationship with Gen Buhari Campaign Organisation. We have had several discussions with Alhaji Lai Muhammed, the National Publicity Secretary of the APC. We believe it is a good course and we are giving it all support it deserves by maximizing the little funds we can raise individually.
How spread is your organization? Our presence is largely in the Southeast where we have the largest population of the Igbo. We equally have our presence in Lagos here. For instance, we’ve have been meeting with Igbo at Ladipo market where they sell spare parts. But the bulk of our work is in the Southeast.
Are you now confident that elections will hold as scheduled? Before official announcement was made of the postponement, I had already got a hint from the Associated Press (AP) on Twitter that Nigeria’s elections would be postponed by six weeks. Later the National Security Adviser spoke about the postponement in London at Chatham House. He was then talking about INEC’s lack of preparedness, but the INEC Chairman told the world that the commission was ready for the election. When the postponement became inevitable, they used Security Chiefs to force INEC to postpone the elections. Though the President has given us his words that there will be no further postponement, I still have my doubts. They gave us six weeks within which they would have crippled the insurgency. If they could not do this in five years, how are they going to do it in six weeks? But since he has assured us that security will no longer be an issue and that elections will go as scheduled, let us believe him and keep praying. They only postponed the election; they cannot kill inevitable victory of our Presidential candidate. We have our PVCs, we will stay to defend our votes and they will see us coasting to victory. They have postponed the election; they have not killed our supporters. The facts that threatened them are still there. The day of reckoning is just some few weeks away.
To what extent have you succeeded in disabusing the minds of the Igbo against the sentiments that form the basis of their opposition to Gen Buhari? Information is very powerful tool. For most young Nigerians who were not yet born when Gen Buhari emerged as military Head of State, whatever you tell such individuals; there is a tendency that they will believe it. The truth is that Gen Buhari is a good Muslim and his running is also a good Christian, a pastor with the Redeemed Christian Church of God. Through enlightenment campaign, many people have now discovered that most of what they are saying about this man are no true. We have a face book page where we inform people about the character of Gen Buhari and a lot of people like the page. A lot of Igbo are now getting to know that this man is not an Islamic bigot. He has a driver of more than 20 years who is a Christian. He has a cook of more than 20 years also a Christian. If they could drive the man around and cook his food for 20 years without the fear of being killed, isn’t that enough to clear the doubt about the man being a religious bigot? Today, if you go to the East, many prominent Igbo people are now supporting him. A former Governor of Anambra State now a senator of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, Senator Ngige is there, Rochas Okorocha, Governor of Imo State is also there. A lot of work is being done to win more support for Buhari. We don’t have money to run radio jingle, but we do one-on-one public enlightenment campaign. What we are doing is presenting the real picture of the man. This is democracy; people are entitled to their choices. We are only helping the people to make a right choice. And, of course, in politics you cannot completely avoid sentiments.
Concerns have been raised about the danger of politicizing the military. What does this portend for the future of this democracy? We fought a fierce battle to send the military back to the barrack. People like MKO Abiola lost their lives in the process. Power can be very alluring. If you expose bees to the honey, it is difficult to chase them away. We should leave the military out of politics. We have all sorts of security agencies who can provide security during elections so that military can concentrate on protecting the territorial integrity of the country. We have the Police, we have Civil Defence Corps, we have Department of State Security (DSS). These are all civilian security agencies which can provide security during elections. In spite of security challenges facing Afghanistan, election took place in Afghanistan, election took place in Syria, election took place in Egypt. Let us not make this country a laughing stock. For good reasons, elections can be postponed within the limit of the constitution, but you don’t need to drag military into the process because a lot of people will begin to doubt their unbiased position in the electoral process. Why is that all those who went on air celebrating the postponement were PDP supporters? How come foreign media leaked information regarding that postponement before the official announcement? Is somebody buying time? Is somebody afraid of being defeated? Nigeria is the only country we have, let us put our hands on deck to fight corruption. If we fight corruption, we will certainly be a better country.
http://sunnewsonline.com/new/?p=105942 |
Properties › Re: Trying To Start Generator To Fan Child: Dad Falls Into Septic Tank, Dead! by Islie: 4:00pm On Feb 22, 2015 |
Cc..... Lalasticlala, FP please |
Celebrities › Joke Silva & Olu Jacob Cover Newest Edition Of Hello! Nigeria Magazine by Islie(op): 3:35pm On Feb 22, 2015 |
This evergreen couple of Olu Jacob and Joke Silva grace the front cover of the newest Edition of Hello Nigeria magazine.... In the issue, they talk about their love in the limelight and balancing it with their careers.
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Politics › Re: Why I Dropped Buhari For Jonathan — Odumakin. by Islie: 7:52am On Feb 22, 2015 |
Money is good ooooo
It can make one sell his sense of reasoning |
Politics › Re: Polytechnic Lecturers Resume Indefinite Strike Wednesday by Islie: 7:48am On Feb 22, 2015 |
Strike again.........
When will the students graduate now |
Properties › Re: Trying To Start Generator To Fan Child: Dad Falls Into Septic Tank, Dead! by Islie: 7:45am On Feb 22, 2015 |
The landlord needs to have taken care of their property and not allow such an occurrence
Because we can't say the man shouldn't on the generator to make himself and child comfortable since the government can't provide light |
Politics › Re: Don’t Sell South-west For Nothing, Adebanjo Tells Yorubas by Islie: 7:41am On Feb 22, 2015 |
This people should just say the want the share of the largesse that the President is sharing and not come up with the Yoruba agenda they are trying to sell to us |
Politics › Re: President GEJ Visit To Alaafin's Palace In Oyo Today by Islie: 10:55pm On Feb 21, 2015 |
GEJ at the alafin palace to say his goodbye as we send him back to Otuoke |
Celebrities › Re: ‘my Muslim Background Inspired Me..... ASA by Islie: 4:32pm On Feb 21, 2015 |
absoluteSuccess: I don't know what to call it, maybe Felaism: we are laughing while suffering. Is that one a fallout of colonialism too? That is not a fall out of colonialism...... Its a fall.out of misplaced priority Where we have thrown our culture and traditions to the dogs and embrace negativity |
Celebrities › Re: 10 Epic Throwback Photos Of Your Favourite Nigerian Celebrities by Islie: 4:24pm On Feb 21, 2015 |
Who say money no good
See difference man expecially that if segun arinze and ice prince |
Family › In What Ways Could A Working Woman Contribute To The Up-keep Of Homes by Islie(op): 3:00pm On Feb 21, 2015 |
The question asking if working wives should take up some responsibilities in the home remains a burning issue in the home-front. The level of involvement differs from the orientation and level of understanding of the partners involved. Marriage is all about compromise and understanding, so when couples discuss, the issue of responsibility frequently comes up.
So invariably, we do ask ourselves........... How, exactly, should a working wife contribute to the home? |
Politics › Re: Pic:Buhari's Act Of Humility At Nigerian Airport B4 Travelling To Uk(A MUST SEE by Islie: 2:43pm On Feb 21, 2015 |
He just practice what he preach........
Not speaking with double mouth like others. (The Ekiti gate tape was fake whereas some of the conspirators have said it did happen) |
Crime › Boy,19, Defiles 7-year-old by Islie(op): 2:39pm On Feb 21, 2015 |
Police operatives attached to Ajegunle police station in Ajeromi/ Ifelodun local government area of Lagos State have arrested a man for raping 7- year-old girl, yesterday. The suspect identified as Chibuzor allegedly raped the victim, Magdalene (not real name) in their residence at Ajose street, Ajegunle. LEADERSHIP gathered that the victim told police that the man called her into the room and began to handle her bottom. She said he later removed her pants and began to make love to her. She also said the suspect warned her to reveal the secret to anybody or he would deal with her. A police constable disclosed that the suspect was pleading with the police, saying: “It is the work of the devil. I will never try it again. Please forgive. I will not do it again”. LEADERSHIP investigation revealed that Chibuzor’s family have been given quit notice from their residence over the behavior of the children. Their father is said to be unemployed. Meanwhile the police have detained the suspect.
http://leadership.ng/news/412922/boy19-defiles-7-year-old |
Politics › Re: Don’t Shift Elections Again, UN Tells Nigerian Govt. by Islie: 1:57pm On Feb 21, 2015 |
I hope the government is listening and abide by his word of not shifting the election again because the world is watching us in 34D |
Politics › Re: Jonathan Changes Campaign Strategies by Islie: 5:28am On Feb 21, 2015 |
GEJ will be going back to Otuoke come May 2015 |
Crime › Re: Court Jails Man 15 Years For Raping Seven-year-old by Islie(op): 5:11am On Feb 21, 2015 |
Lalasticlala...... FP |
Politics › Re: Obanikoro's Lawyers Write Sahara Reporters (see Court Papers) by Islie: 11:18am On Feb 20, 2015 |
But I thought he had admitted to the senators that he was the one
Just want to waste public funds again |
Politics › Re: Fani-kayode Counters President Jonathan, Says Ekiti Rigging Tape Authentic by Islie: 11:13am On Feb 20, 2015 |
PDP always find way to cover their lies I thought the President says the tape was frabicated and its all lies So, they are now changing the words PDP caught lying red handed there  |